What should a supporter’s trust do? The current THST says on their website, that their main areas of work at THFC and nationally are ticket pricing, fixture scheduling, policing and safety, and governance. They even state quite specifically on their website that their remit extends to all off-field matters.
Now we, in my view, have this rambling, politically questionable, and uninformed gaggle of fans, seeking to attack ENIC after the horse has bolted…
Or is Daniel Levy going to have his tummy tickled by Marxists?
They do think we’re renting the place from enic😂😂😂
Totally
Yep
At last. Some sense
I know😂😂😂
And the sad thing is they wish we were anchor Tennant’s so they could hate on us more
Anchor tenant is actually a retail term…LOL.. Fcuk me
I know Enic named us the ‘anchor tenant’ back when the stadium was built. You often repeat this, but what does it even mean? Do you know? Is it just a legal term?… I don’t quite get it. Enic in debt? Or Spurs in debt? It’s Spurs stadium and Enic own both the stadium and the club… so I think it may be just legal term because of the debt… Or do you really think we are tenants? And just renting the place temporarily? Lol surely not.
Marotta or Luis Campos would have been the ideal.. Mixed feelings from the Old Lady fans about Paratici, he was signing quality players for them in his 3 years in charge, but not in the right areas.. Actions do speak and time will tell.. Romero is encouraging. I don’t focus on his interviews or PR which is same at all clubs now, can only judge him on the players he brings.
Ah fair enough
Agreed I thinks it’s fair to say that the day ENIC got involved with Spurs was not a good day.
Fair point but we are now screwed anyway thanks to the bungling bald midget.
That was a dig at baldy and not you. I wasn’t disagreeing with you – just adding to the discussion.
I never said just invest in the infrastructure. I hoped the new ground would also see investment in the playing staff like Poch talked about, rather than no signings for two windows while Levy lost control of the project.
If we had an owner with an interest in the club he could have leant the club the money for the build thus bypassing FFP but sadly we just have an owner who sees the club as a speculative punt.
I agree stadium moves don’t guarantee success but the extra revenue it generates allows the club to compete for the talent required to reach the champions league.
I agree our match day revenues vs pool and United were similar given our price premium. However if you look at the revenue by year generated by those clubs vs Spurs it can only have come from sponsorship merchandise and prize money, where we fall behind them.
The increase in revenue generated by the new stadium is a bid to close that gap which in financial not footballing terms has proved successful. I believe we now generate the highest matchday revenue in the premier league.
Our problems are not the idea of the move but it’s execution which has been a disaster for which the footballing side is paying for as the costs spiralled due to its mismanagement.
Our problems could arguably have solved if our wonderful owner had leant the club the money for the build interest free thus bypassing FFP but given that’s not the case the club had to look for other ways of generating additional revenue.
In my view we have the worst owner in the premier league, Ashley was better he put his hand in pocket on occasions, and Lewis has never sunk a penny into improving the clubs fortunes.
I think if we had just stayed at the lane with its limited capacity we would have found it difficult long term to compete
“Insignificant wallies” inasmuch as they have zero authority and power over anything other than what clothes they choose to wear each morning. Yes I do agree with them, but they are not going to have any more impact on enic than the average blogger at the end of the day.
All that enic will ever take notice of is significant matchday protests and a loss of income due to fans not buying their tat or tickets.
Yet the match day revenues weren’t much different. Spurs ticket prices even at WHL were way higher than either of those two. Spurs had a bigger fan base worldwide in the 80s because we were a glamor club that really contended. Enic have stopped that and building a property empire to further gorge themselves doesn’t prove any point to me.
Fair point but I think you are deluded if you think Levy is listening to them.
This is all fur coat and no knickers stuff. I understand your argument. More seats more revenue. But only if you have a bum on a seat – and that means providing entertainment – and that requires investing in the FOOTBALL club.
Sure you can do both but to only invest in the infrastructure as a means to gain a financial return equals “you don’t give a rats ar*e about the football” – which over time – leads to no bums on seats (only THST) and falling revenues.
In of itself new stadiums don’t mean footballing success, whereas, footballing success leads to …….well at the very least Champions League qualification and that brings £70 million or thereabouts for a win – £40 million last 16 – and that’s just prizemoney folks.
These ‘insignificant wallies’ have today
14-10-2021 a half page of the Daily Mirror with their queries and demands clearly stated. They seem clear and concise and are the exact points that supporters would like exposed. I see them as a beacon of hope in a otherwise pit of moans and complaints from other bloggers which will get us nowhere as no other supporters organisation are listened to or can put any pressure on the board,
There’s money in reserve for that eventually, a contingency plan. Look at the Bale loan, our wage bill went up by about another 150k a week. Levy probably thought that might bring Champions League football. When it didn’t he was sent back to Madrid.
Paratici has to keep in line or he’ll be fired, which is why everything he comes out with is instructed by the PR dept. Meaningless white noise, actions speak louder than words. We’ll see, perhaps he’s a miracle worker but I won’t be holding my breath, after 22 years of ENIC….
Just a typo. I don’t believe I downvoted your comment did I? Must have been someone else.
Both those clubs have much bigger fan bases than ours. This allows them to generate far greater money from other sources like merchandise and sponsorship than us and pretty much all clubs worldwide.
Both clubs had considerably higher ground capacities than the old WHL, United’s capacity is the highest in the country.
Mitchell was probably our last decent window. Rather early to rate the new guy he arrived late. Everyone who plays or is involved in football knows the churn is needed.. Not sure why you downvoted me, nor how your post is relevant.. A decent scout setup is essential regardless of Levy.. Can what?
Well, Richmond FC with Ted Lasso at the helm beat us on TV – clearly the scriptwriters along with the NFL tuber see us as a big player but a soft touch…….in fact in the original US ad series, Ted was going to be the new THFC coach!
I wonder if we’d be better or worse off?
They had Paul Mitchell and he lasted 5.mins, when his work at Southampton and RB Leipzig has drawn praise from many. He’s gone on record as saying that he believes in a proactive and s constant churn of players. Levy clearly wasn’t call comfortable with that. Can
Yet Liverpool and Ute have remained in their old grounds and been successful……
I am not a defender of ENIC in any sense but I do see the logic in why they built the new stadium. At Whl they had a capacity of 35,000 but at the new stadium it has increased to over 60,000. Given that the club said they had a waiting list of 250,000 it made sense to look at building a new stadium given that the old stadium was not suitable for redevelopment.
A lot is made of what the club makes out of joint venture events like boxing and NFL but the real value is the increase in gate money from football.
Levy estimates average receipts from home matches (tickets,merc,food) is over £6million so based on league matches alone is worth £120 million a season, which I believe is over double what was delivered at the old stadium. That increase alone should be more than sufficient to cover the interest payments on the debt and obviously any cup matches for the club and other events only add to club income.
What rankles most is the cost incurred in building the stadium mostly I understand affected by the mismanagement of the build which has inflated the final cost and the size of the debt.
Had Spurs stayed at the old ground on its limited capacity I’m not sure long term we would have remained competitive with the likes of Man Utd , Liverpool and Arsenal not forgetting the oligarch clubs Chelsea City and now Newcastle.
Announcement: more off the field matters, an NFL you tuber actually mentioned the ex football clubs name….and I quote(in best Yankee accent)…”I have an inkling that even Tottenham Hotspur could beat the Jets..”
Global brand is on….maybe not.
We mustn’t lose track of the fact that the real enemy are enic not thst. The latter are insignificant wallies whilst the former are extremely dangerous parasites sucking the life blood out of Spurs. I’d rather you devote your time to combatting enic and ignore the trust as they are not worth bothering with any more.
Their sense of self-worth is hugely out of sync with the reality of what they do.
Some of the money produced by the events at the stadium will, I imagine, go to pay off some debt. Remember, the football club is merely an anchor tenant and is not a priority for Enic. I have my doubts that even if there was a miracle and the football club had real money to spend that Levy wouldn’t fu*# it up. I am also of the belief that the club is up for sale, however at a ludicrous price.
With regards to the THST, I agree with HH that they will never affect Levy’s MO, but having said that, perhaps they have finally woken up to the fact that Enic are not a force for the good or success of the football club. The only event that will make Enic take any notice is when the stadium is half full, STs are down as well as merchandising and we are flirting with relegation.
Around 40 million a year on average until 2045 maybe 2050 to pay off all the debts. My maths is poor, so I don’t know exactly. The rest will go towards the running of the club. I think, someone please correct me if I’m wrong. ENIC always seems to balance the books, they don’t put money in nor take any out.. What bothers me more than anything right now is our scouts and system. Our youth scouts and senior scouts have been failing for time, Hitchen has finally been demoted but he’s still there. This baffles me. Buying the right players is essential. The game is all about the best players. Whether we have the 3rd most money in the league, or the 3rd least is irrelevant if idiots are spending the money…. I would like to know how much this stadium can make exactly.. Joshua vs Usyk I guess would make more than NFL. A million tops maybe including drinks and food? Cutting it fine having to bang out 40 huge events every year. More money to be made at home match days, but they need as many big events as possible.
I’ve said it before and say it again if the THST think that they will have any influence on the owners of THFC then they are living in cloud cuckoo land
Ask them where the money from all the events being held at the Tottenham Hotspur stadium are going? if not why are they not going to the football club? and why is the club being used to make someone else money?