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The jokers are coming out of the woodwork to declare Tottenham finished – Opinion
By Bruce Grove -

If there is one thing in football that is as certain as night following day it is overreaction and hyperbole depending on a couple of results.

Tottenham was very poor yesterday against Brighton, there is no denying that and Jose Mourinho does deserve some criticism for what occurred and so do the players.

But listening to some pundits today you would think that Spurs are ten points adrift and almost certain to be relegated.

There was some mitigation for what happened yesterday, not a lot but some. That is not to detract away from the result and overall performance but to look at what happens in a vacuum without context is what leads to the overreaction that is going on right now.

Today I have seen some incredible stuff, especially on that provocative Talksport from both callers and their so-called presenters.

For example, you had one numpty calling for Mourinho to be replaced by none other than Frank Lampard, you got Jamie O’Hara, who has more front than Asda considering how woeful a footballer he was stating that there is no chance that Spurs will finish top-four.

Now, just a couple of months back when Spurs were beating Man Utd 6-1 and Southampton 5-2 the story was of course so different, when Arsenal and Man City were taken care of, the story was so different. Then Tottenham was considered genuine title challengers and the fact they finished a whopping 40 points behind Liverpool last season was conveniently ignored.

Now we are being told Pochettino would have done this and he would have done that and that Spurs never suffered without Kane the way they did yesterday. Well, with Kane where was we when Poch got the boot?

The heart of Tottenham’s creativity was ripped out of the team for yesterdays game, no Lo Celso, Reguilon and Kane and while they should have done better, you cannot make wine with water but that is also ignored.

Liverpool recently went on an appalling run, Leciester City collapsed last season and threw away a champions league spot, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was a certainty to be fired not long ago, Arsenal fell down the league like a rock in water and now are one of the in-form teams, I could go on but I am sure you get the picture.

After last season if I had fallen into a coma and just woken up today and seen the current state of the Spurs team I will be honest and say I would have been pleasantly surprised.

Sixth in the Premier League (fifth and just four points behind Liverpool if we win our game in hand) Carabao Cup final, fifth round of the FA Cup, last 32 of the Europa League, third best defensive record, third best goal difference, two of the top three goalscorers in the league, top assist in the country in Kane and more, yeah, we are definitely a club in crisis.

I get it that fans, pundits and so on are disappointed and angry and want to vent but if we beat Chelsea this week those very same fans and pundits will be hailing Mourinho as a genius once again and that the club is going in the right direction, well, most of them anyway.

It is now so predictable, when Bale was brought back Levy was a God, now he is Satan because he does not back the manager. When Mourinho owned Guardiola it was a masterclass, lose to Brighton and he is a dinosaur, the list is endless of the kneejerk reactions and today has been a beauty.

Football is all about opinions but those opinions carry much more weight when everything is analysed and taken into consideration, like at the end of a season but when you flip flop depending on a result then I am sorry, those opinions are worthless because they are not grounded in reality and will almost certainly change depending on which way the wind is blowing.

I am gutted about recent results but right now, taking everything into consideration I am ok with where we are as a club and the direction we are heading in and yes, I back Mourinho and do believe that once the dust has settled that we will be a club that is finally winning silverware on a regular basis.

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Paul Donovan
Paul Donovan
11 months ago

Sorry. Was not their day

Paul Donovan
Paul Donovan
11 months ago

Hoddle, Waddle, Ardiles, Bale, Modric, Klinsmann, Sheringham , at least 3 of those midfielders if not all better than , Scholes , Giggs & Beckham We have had the flair but not a balanced team , thats poor judgement as well as investment. Brian Marwood a title winner at Arsenal , not as good as Galvin let alone Waddle. We didnt compliment skill with desire & steel. We won 1-0 at Anfield , following week drew at home with Wednesday & our star players gave up because it was their day. No leader on pitch, a Souness or Keane. Sterland missed an open goal to let us off. Those were not ENICs fault. But now Chelsea & City with investment have won loads of titles. Are you telling me they had more potential than us. So it must need new committed ownership to release ours

Paul Donovan
Paul Donovan
11 months ago

Looking at Bill Nicholson as a player & manager , regular trophies, Burks too. Just as Venables was getting it right he was sacked. Then Sugar & now ENIC. In those 30 years 2 league cups. Coincidence. Just asking those Levy supporters?

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
11 months ago
Reply to  Paul Donovan

Yes you are right, except in Venables case . He ‘Went Upstairs’ and got caught with his fingers in the till.

JohnBlunt
JohnBlunt
11 months ago

Yes because the jokers can see that we’re not going to win multiple trophies like we have all those other fantastic years under Levy and ENIC…
Get real mate, how can we be finished anyway – we haven’t got there yet!
We’re the perennial losers that flatter to deceive, and always will be under our current owners. Our sole yardstick of success appears to be finishing above our North London neighbours or squeaking into top 4. Wow what winners we are!

Paul Donovan
Paul Donovan
11 months ago

Its not as if we have to get promoted 1st & build club. We are always halfway up the roof but dont go for the apex. Not far from top 4 or 5 to 1st. But its mentality

Paul Donovan
Paul Donovan
11 months ago

The biggest sadness is that so many fans say they are used to defeats & failure. For a club of our stature, ie fanbase, past success , which should be much more, the stadium, the media coverage (always through good & bad , Spurs are big news) & most of all the talent we have had over the years. We should be used to winning things. For some reason we end up with unbalanced teams & deadwood dross also. We won 2 titles, then seemed to settle for being a cup side after 1964. In the early 80s ,good success but should have got a centre back. Butcher, Mcleish, Levein were all courted. A ball winner like Ince. We could have won title. We tried in 84-85 but after winning 4-1 at Everton on 1st day they proved to be a far better & balanced side. The club needs to be run properly , we are like Brad Pitt dating Bella Emberg, when we should be with Miss World. We seem to hold ourselves back as if we are scared of success

Harry Hotspur
11 months ago
Reply to  Paul Donovan

This issue is that we’re not a football club, we’re an investment. That’s the sadness.

Paul Donovan
Paul Donovan
11 months ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

I was given abuse on another site , just for being devils advocate about ENIC.

Harry Hotspur
11 months ago
Reply to  Paul Donovan

It’s a cult

East Stand
East Stand
11 months ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

These people are wasting everyone’s time apart from their own…

Willie!
Willie!
11 months ago

It’s a league of very, very fine margins, all around.

Go back to Oct, when Dier gives away a pen via handball against Newcastle – a ridiculous decision that led to so much outrage and uproar from everyone -fans of every club, players, managers, that the league started re-interpreting the rule. Well, great for everyone else, but we still got screwed by what should have been an easy decision for any ref and cost us 3 pts against a relegation candidate team that we easily outplayed.

If the handball rule were interpreted the same way all season as it is now, we’re 3 pts higher. If Bergwign or Kane hit the net, instead of the post, in multiple matches – we’re another 3-6 pts higher. Nine points higher and we’re leading the league. Fine margins.

I don’t like Jose’s football style, though I am somewhat entertained by the spectacle he brings. In a year or two, we’ll look back on the Jose years and at least have memories – maybe it’s about some silverware, maybe it’s just drama and a spanish $#@^ing ham…time will tell.

Elevenstonedidiots
Elevenstonedidiots
11 months ago

I’m sensing a last minute bid by Levy for N’obody

Dave
Dave
11 months ago

The arse have had a great window

Managed to get rid of a load of absolute Sh!te

The only positive is we didn’t get Mustafi or Sokratis in.

David Dillenberg
David Dillenberg
11 months ago
Reply to  Dave

True but who are our equivalents of their exciting Saka and Emile Smith-Rowe??

Dave
Dave
11 months ago

It don’t matter any way Mourinho not going to give the kids a go. Devine and Scarlett were just in because the opposition were pony.

We must have a decent young right back. For all the errors Aurier makes and the ineptitude of Dorothy, it would be good to see a young lad come in and play.

Same at left back, he was talking up. Cirkin, play him, Davies is woeful and Regi is injured.

For the first time i can ever remember i am getting to the stage i really don’t care, the thought of watching Cheatski against us on Thursday i dont think i can even watch it.

In the past Mourinho has thrived on the everyone is against us and really built a pack mentality, but the players don’t seem to be responding.

The pressure would really be on with the crowd making their feelings known, so without that for the next few months, the noise Is just papers and social media and that is easily ignored

Harry Hotspur
11 months ago
Reply to  Dave

Give what kids a go? Name me a single Premier League side that fields 16yr olds?

Or do you want Parrott in who can’t pass a ball?

Who you do me a favour Dave, it would mean a lot? Could you stop smearing guano over my lovely comments section?

If you can’t think of anything coherent to add, don’t. If you insist on sharing this conceived drivel, I’ll ban you. Just to help you along 👍

Harry Hotspur
11 months ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Someone doesn’t post here anymore!

East Stand
East Stand
11 months ago

Things aren’t that desperate, the season is still alive. However, I think if we’re being honest we were expecting better than this by this stage.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
11 months ago

Jose has a striker problem but it’s Everton going looking for Josh King. Is Levy in the country?

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
11 months ago

Maybe think about putting Bale left back while Riguilons out for a bit of balance….and to get summin for the moneys worth….he has experience and knows the position.

It’s just shapeless lately.

Last edited 11 months ago by Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
11 months ago

4-3-3 Hugo Bale Rodon Toby Doherty/Dier Ndombele LoCelso Hojberg. Bergwijn Son Lamela or some such.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
11 months ago

Lo Celso is injured, Aurier to the right, team just look tired, he’s not rotating enough.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
11 months ago

Is Aurier back in good books again? If Lo Celso ain’t back I’d chuck Skipp in there if he’s back from Norwich.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
11 months ago

Season long loan to Norwich.

East Stand
East Stand
11 months ago

I’d have ben giving Japhet a go at left back, the Gaian if Davies is fit then he plays if Reggie doesn’t. That’s the hierarchy in that position.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
11 months ago

Look Bruce it’s not the defeats I can’t take, as a Spurs fan I’m well used to them, and I have seen worse, much worse, relegation and teams so bad I could barely believe my eyes.

What I won’t accept is the type of performance last night, with a few exceptions it looked like a lot of the players couldn’t be bothered. That wasn’t a professional performance. If they had any regard for the club and fans they’d donate fifty per cent of this week’s wages to local Tottenham/Enfield /Haringey charities.

Burgin
Burgin
11 months ago

Absolutely, I’ll get my head bitten off but under poch even when losing we entertained, it’s not the losing, it’s the manner in which we do so
Morinho. DNA stands for DO NOT ATTACK

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
11 months ago

Nothing coming in again by the look of it. Of course.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
11 months ago

The answer is to sack Levy which is much cheaper than sacking Mourinho which is probably what he wants anyway. Ask any manager or DoF who has worked for Levy, your shelf life is limited. Perhaps Joe Lewis could promote Mourinho as CEO who certainly knows more about football than Levy thereby killing two birds with one stone. We get a new CEO and a new manager who understands the Spurs tradition of playing football according to the traditions of the club. Please don’t come out with this cr*p that we have to change our philosophy to win trophies. By the way, anybody who thinks that Joe Lewis would never sack Levy should do their own research into Joe Lewis’s property dealings in Patagonia, if they can be bothered as it makes for vey interesting reading.

Tinashe
Tinashe
11 months ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Interesting observation.Levy however is a good negotiator and must have made lots of money for Spurs for sometime.Lewis will need to think deeper before he can unleash his gun.As for Mou,i think the defense line he has is just a pit.The team needs a commanding CB and another good striker

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