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Watch your Daily Briefing, Inc. a message to diehard Poch fans
By Harry Hotspur -

Pochettino has worked his way deep into the psyche of so many Tottenham fans, but at what point does the cold reality of the man’s circumstances finally drop, like that final, pesky penny in the arcade? Conte meanwhile is stuck with the Levy Brand™ leftovers and punts, plus, by his own admission, a further desire to assess his squad.

We all wish him well, but as grown-ups, we all know that whilst spending does not guarantee success, it certainly weights the scale in one’s favour.

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England Mike
England Mike
1 month ago

The unmistakeable fact about Poch in which his followers refuse to accept is that he reached finals, semi-finals and the latter stages of the PL only to choke in all of them when they were there to be won.
He won a substantial amount of games during his time for sure, but failed in those that really mattered when that squad was good enough to lift a trophy, and he couldnt do it. Having said that he did a great job overall , but that 7-2 result against BM still hurts, and I was there.

Urbane Sturgeon
Urbane Sturgeon
1 month ago
Reply to  England Mike

They were there to be won? An intriguing phrase in that context.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago

Exactly right about Botch. Managers are remembered for what they win. The ligue 1 for PSG is a given. He’s fully expected to win the CL. Who on earth would complain about recruitment with the likes of Messi Neymar and Mbappe at your disposal. I hope they win the CL, so then Botchy will keep his job.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
1 month ago

Football is not just about trophies though is it? There are very few available to most clubs, 2 or 3 tops to the majority of PL clubs.
Aside from the top 3 or 4 teams (some of whom themselves always go empty handed every season), it’s about winning matches, beating your rivals, beating your neighbours, great days and especially nights under the floodlights where your team excels against all odds. Especially on those unforgettable CL nights. Going on unbeaten runs. Those memorable comebacks and outstanding goals, like Sonnies against Burnley, those are the real memories that are not lessened because we didn’t win a trophy that year.
Basing football success purely on a few tinpots is rather a mercenary outlook I always think. Of course trophies are the ultimate goal, but not at the expense of everything else. Personally I have greater memories of that run to the CL final than winning the mickey mouse cup in 2008. Comparing the two – only a fool would say the cup was the greatest achievement.
Poch gave us those times for 4 superb years, and I for one will always e eternally grateful and will never say a bad word about the guy, or a cheap jibe against his name. He made us a big team known throughout Europe, a household name in every nation, at the very least you should be grateful for him for that.
But he can’t return, that time is gone. With that I wholeheartedly agree.

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Burgin
Burgin
1 month ago

Absolutely spot in
I played sport all over the country and won many trophies, to be honest they mean very little but the memories live on
Just for the record, we haven’t finished in the top 4 since poch and that was what Levy asked of pochettino
Hope he returns one day, loved the football

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Burgin

He did what Levy wanted him to do. Work on a certain budget with younger players and prioritise the league position because that’s where the revenues are. I don’t personally think Levy expected consistent top 4, but that became our new level under his coaching.

Wasn’t backed in the end and the rest is history. Laughable that some fans put the decline of the last 12 months purely down to him when we signed nobody for over a year. Well, it’s gone so well with the two managers since hasn’t it?

Conte is the calibre of coach we need to get back to that level, which speaks volumes about how well Pochettino did…

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

The FA Cup and League Cups have been completely devalued because of the massive financial rewards and global interest generated by the Champions League. It’s not the 1980’s I’m afraid.

A regular top 4 position requires you to win more matches over a more sustained period, so therefore more of an achievement compared to the domestic cups. It’s just that some people are still living in the past.

Like you say, only so many trophies to go around. Having said that, one solitary League Cup in 23 years under ENIC is still totally pathetic.

In his statement Levy says that he “remains relentless” in his pursuit of silverware… he has to be taking the p*ss… 😂

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East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

The domestic cups have lost their lustre somewhat though.

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East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Yes totally about the money involved, but devalued nonetheless.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

The FA cup still holds magic for many. I love it.

Bertoliver
Bertoliver
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

I’m afraid the game has moved on and it’s all about money which means the Champions League access has become more important than the domestic cups. Ask any of the owners/directors of the premier league clubs would they rather win a domestic cup or get entry into the ECL and to a man/women they would choose the latter. ECL access allows clubs to recruit and fund the top players whilst the domestic trophies offer no sizeable income and access to Europe’s minor competitions.
The bigger clubs use the domestic trophies for squad rotation and save their elite players for league and European matches.
The fact that the domestic cups are still, predominately, won by the elite sides is due the size and quality of their squads.

Paddio
Paddio
1 month ago

That type of thinking really came to the forefront in the 80s, its the taking part that really counts.
Everyone loves a trier, give it your best and so on…. but there is a point winning counts and you may feel it unfortunate but at the top end its a key factor.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago

Of course football is all about winning trophies. It is the metric of any sport, especially at the top. The biggest clubs, the best players, the top managers are all judged and remembered for what they have won.. Its why Kane wanted out. Its why Bale and Modric left. To win trophies, the bigger the better of course! Sons memorable goal at Burnley won’t be remembered like Bales CL winner in the final. Might as well have done it in a friendly if it wins you nothing……. Botchy is a great coach, but his managerial decisions have left question marks. His failure to win with us was down to strange decisions, late subs, and lack of technical ability. It was high press or die. Possession based, if we couldn’t break them down then we were hit on the counter. After 5 years he tweaked formation slightly during games but we were found out. We were very one dimensional.. After watching City beat PSG I’m not sure Botch will be there much longer.. I’m expecting him to be at Manure by the summer… I would love Botcho to return to us in the future after proving he can win stuff. But he has it all to prove.. Ideally I would have Conte as manager and Botch as a head coach.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago

I never said ‘he can’t return’ either so I wholeheartedly disagree.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

This is click bait nonsense created by hacks that want to pedal the myth that He wants to leave Paris to become the new Ferguson. He hasn’t even had a full season at PSG yet, a job he knows all about by now, I very much doubt he’ll be complaining about anything.

PSG is a very difficult job, you’re expected to win everything.

Tuchel couldn’t do enough for the owners at PSG, six months later he wins the Champions League with Chelsea, he must be a terrible manger I guess, if he couldn’t make it work in Paris? 🤔 😂

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Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

They do spend more money than any other club in the world, yet the french league isn’t half as good as ours, Italys, and Spains… Arguably PSG is one of the easier top jobs because it’s so easy for them to win pots.. Botch is under pressure at the min he still hasn’t got Messi balling, he failed to win the league last year when its usually a given.. They’ve never won the CL have they and they’ve spent so much. Tuchel lost 2 or 3 games before he was sacked which is crazy. I hope they’ve learnt and give Botch more time.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
1 month ago

I think the greatest claim to fame Poch has, and the reason he is still so popular, is what he achieved despite Levy’s penny pinching, meddling interference and complete lack of backing. Four of the greatest years most Spurs fans can remember. Magical nights in the CL where we put the likes of RM and BD to the sword, not to mention drubbings of the likes of Liverpool and City by 4 clear goals, and routine drubbings of just about everyone else. Best of all 4 consecutive years in the CL that eventually saw him take us to the final.
Yes he won nothing, and made many mistakes to boot, and yes there is a question mark over his ability to win trophies. But those 4 years alone make his reign supreme in living memory.
I don’t think it would be a good idea for him to return to Spurs though. Those years were almost a perfect storm with the good young squad he had, and he achieved it despite Levy. Today’s rundown, dysfunctional and Levy impacted squad is a whole new animal to deal with. Levy still wouldn’t back him as there is a question mark about his trophy winning ability. But Levy HAS to back Conte, or it’s the end of little baldy’s reputation once and for all. Conte is a proven winner at the height of his career, if he doesn’t win trophies at Spurs then the blame can only be put on Levy. The little rat is cornered.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago

I would have think that Poch would be mad to come back to Spurs, knowing Levy as well as he does. It’s much easier to win trophies when you are backed by the board and Poch wasn’t . He will always go down as a very popular and successful Spurs manager, given the tools at his disposal. I suspect that he will end up at Utd, probably at the end of the season with Zidane going to PSG. Where I agree with you completely is that Levy has nowhere left to hide. Having sacked Poch, Mourinho, a serial winner and NES, he has now hired another serial winner who is probably even more volcanic in temperament than Mourinho. I believe that Conte only wanted to sign an eighteen month contract as he was never really convinced by Levy’s promises. In reality, a manager with a proven track record who is out of work has nothing to lose working at Spurs as the whole football world is aware that Levy is impossible, and as far as football matters are concerned, is a serial loser. Conte will demand new signings as our squad is broken down like an old nag due to be sent to the glue factory. I just wonder, having seen our results, where the money will come from?

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

I was saying he should never come back to Spurs as it’ll only end in tears and he’ll tarnish his great reputation for making us a true European giant for 4 years. Never go back is a very sensible saying indeed, one which Poch would do well to heed, especially with Levy still about. I wish him luck though wherever he goes.

Paddio
Paddio
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

us and Poch are in the same position, if we want to be in the big boy leagues we need to start winning.
There were fantastic times with Poch at the helm, plus he gave us lots of memories even whilst we played at Wembley.
But whilst the time was great for both parties and goals achieved quicker than planned it was something Levy couldn’t adapt to or change his old school 5 year plan mentality because of over achievement.
Sometimes when to move is as important as when to stay and that timing was poor. I sort of wish he got that Madrid move the summer before champions league final. Because it damaged both parties that season. The CL final masked a lot of issues.
As a club we’ve then gone in the post marriage whoring session since it ended with Poch and not learnt the lessons. Though it might be now they’ve been learnt if Conte and Paratici can stay tight on message, we might finally move forward.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  Paddio

I’m sure that Paratici and Conte can take us forward but Levy is always the problem. Poch warned the board before the CL final to be brave. We have suffered from Levy’s constipation for years.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

If he wins trophies at PSG are we expected not to ‘count’ those because it’s PSG? Jose only won trophies where he was managing the best positioned club in whichever respective league it was in, and with huge budgets, therefore we should discount those too, same with Pep etc. Barca, Bayern and Citeh?

PSG is Poch’s first job at a club with a huge budget, other managers (‘winners’) have managed at several, so no surprise they’ve won stuff. It’s precisely WHY they’ve won stuff, however some dummies fail to grasp this irrefutable fact.

Let’s leave this rather silly ‘serial winner’ tag to one side shall we? Conte, Jose, Pep, Klopp and others before have won stuff at clubs best positioned to do it. That’s the common denominator, not some kind of ‘superpower, people need to grow up about this.

Let Pep manage Norwich and let’s see what he wins. No top manager in recent has ever gone to a far less well funded club and won…

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Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Peps had the easiest run, but he is brilliant. And Maureen, Klopp, Conte have all proved their brilliance by taking over leagues dominated by better teams for years.

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