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“The NFL game sums up the state of affairs” This Fan Provides Valuable Context

By The Boy -
CowSpurs is on the money…

In footballing terms, Levy is just as ineffective and self-serving as Ashley was at Newcastle. Using a football club for his and Lewis’ personal gain is abhorrent, but we are not alone. I despise how Lewis picked us to line his own pockets. The winning teams invest in the footballing squad to raise the profile of the club, not in infrastructure. Yet Levy still has his plaudits, and it is obvious he has no inclination to win.

Before someone shouts that Levy does spend on the squad, it is not how we, the fans, want it invested. It is always a case of buying cheap-buying twice (in some cases thrice) at the expense of putting people in the know (Paul Mitchell) on 16 months of gardening leave.

Kyle Walker was hardly the greatest footballing right back we ever had (probably the best athlete) but in the 4 years since he departed for £50m we have shelled out circa £60m on Aurier, Doherty, and the absolute plum that is Royal to replace him, yet we are so far from comfortable at right-back that we’ll need another £45m to put it right.

And that is Levy’s legacy. There has never been a coherent recruitment plan. Do you for a second think City, United, Chelsea, or even the business like Liverpool making 3 consecutive mistakes in one position?

Buying Saha and Nelson when Harry was aiming for the top 4. Selling Bale and getting in 7, of which only one was a success. Allowing Poch’s squad to fester for 3 transfer windows and ultimately die. Splashing £100m on Ndombele and Lo Celso and then conning the fans when supposedly buying for Jose and now Nuno.

Can Levy be stopped? Our issue is we are such a small collective that there are few outside of Spurs willing to listen, I’d like to know how many within the club agree with The Boy Hotspur or Marbella, there never seems to be too much discontent on match days, or is that being buried by the media. They do not want to harm the Premier League brand and with the likes of Jamie Redknapp telling everyone when he’s at the Tottenham Hotspur stadium how brilliant it is telling everyone that all is good under Levy.

Unless you are invested emotionally in Spurs, like the Geordies are with the toon (and every other fan of a club), you just don’t see the harm being done by the owners when we know things are not as good as they should be. How many of us cared a jot about how Ashley rinsed their club, though? The luckless Geordies will now distance themselves from the atrocious non-footballing matters associated with the Saudi regime because they are so desperate for success. The sporting media won’t kick up too much fuss either, they’ll leave that to Panorama. Sports washing is alive and well, and the media cannot tarnish the brand that they need to promote. How many of us would have stopped supporting Spurs if we had been bought by the Qataris? If the media can help sell Spurs’ state-of-the-art stadium in their programming all is good, after all, the end result is the English Premier League has the world’s best stadium! Trevor Lawrence is going to be the new face of it too!

If I have shares in Barclays, do I care if they win ‘Bank of the Year’? Of course not, just as long as money is made, and I get my dividend. There lies the rub. Levy doesn’t care about winning.

His concerns are getting in sponsors using the EPL and NFL as the platform, not Spurs’ trophy cabinet. I do think he wants Ch Lg football, who wouldn’t, but because the EPL is so lucrative it does not matter if we are not in it. Ch Lg is a bonus that is all, one that I can’t see we will be anywhere near in the foreseeable anyway.

The NFL game sums up the state of affairs. Neither the Dolphins nor the Jaguars are in with a shout of the Superbowl, but the game was a sell-out and a commercial success. This is what my Spurs have become. It’s embarrassing.

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Bertoliver
Bertoliver
2 years ago

Totally agree re the academy. I’ve supported Spurs for over 50 years and apart from Hoddle Kane and perhaps Ledley have produced virtually nothing at all. It makes me laugh when people talk about the strength of our academy. The home grown talent on show last night was second class fare.

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

Post a fact and it might lead to debate unlike the drivel you come up with. Hope you don’t get this upset by actual 5 year olds btw.

Richard David Bernard Taylor
Richard David Bernard Taylor
2 years ago

Lewis and Levy nice fellows?????!!!!!!!

Richard David Bernard Taylor
Richard David Bernard Taylor
2 years ago

Yes, it is quite extraordinary the number of down votes recently with so few willing to show themselves above the parapet, much less offer us a convincing argument for the fine job that Levy and ENIC are doing other than the usual bullshit about how bad things were in the nineties!

Richard David Bernard Taylor
Richard David Bernard Taylor
2 years ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

While appreciating that Levy and the king of Patagonia seem to be two pretty deplorable human beings.

Richard David Bernard Taylor
Richard David Bernard Taylor
2 years ago
Reply to  Stewart Smith

I get cheesed off by the extraordinary optimism of Levy apologists. We had a blogger on here, just a few years ago, who informed us that the future was SPURS and that the club was going to have a dynasty dominating the next 20 years. At the time, and wary of ENIC and the cost of the stadium, I remember thinking I’d just like to see us win ONE league first, before we start talking about dominating. We have won NOTHING since and Levy and ENIC’s trophy count – in 20 years plus – remains just the ONE League Cup.

Richard David Bernard Taylor
Richard David Bernard Taylor
2 years ago

Quite! You could expect some abuse on here (my friend across the road was called a Gooner in disparaging fashion on many occasions) for not toeing the optimistic party line.

Richard David Bernard Taylor
Richard David Bernard Taylor
2 years ago
Reply to  CowSpurs

We have been and are disadvantaged by the the finances of such as Chelsea and City, but the opportunities have been there for some success, nevertheless; ENIC weren’t really interested, though, in success on the field but in lining their pockets.

Richard David Bernard Taylor
Richard David Bernard Taylor
2 years ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

When the opportunity for some real success was there, they chose to plunge most of our money into capital assets rather than the additional signings which could have got us over the winning line!

It has to be remembered that we were a bit unlucky, too, that, in consecutive seasons, we were up against two clubs in Leicester and Chelsea who had no European commitments and the ideal scenario for winning the league of just the one match per week. Leicester even threw the Cup; after getting the better of a draw at WHL, I think they made TEN changes for the replay which we won comfortably. They went on to win the league, of course.

Richard David Bernard Taylor
Richard David Bernard Taylor
2 years ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

“22 years for bringing a club back from the brink…etc” Yes, quite!

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago

I expect some of us react like this toward ENIC apologists cos we are Spurs fans and Spurs have been used and spat out by an investment company. Now they are an unrecognizable sh$t show, there’s been so much down the years it’s beyond parody and it becomes a mystery after so much how any Spurs fan cannot hate this group of reptiles. They have form, it’s not new. It’s completely at odds to love Tottenham and have anything favourable to say about Levy/Lewis ENIC by now.

Be sure not to block the advertising.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago

*not understand

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago
Reply to  Stewart Smith

Yes, it’s called delusion.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
2 years ago
Reply to  steve

Yeah we were finishing 14th and 15th some seasons back in the 90s, but at least we made some quality marquee signings, Lineker, Gazza, Klinsmann..

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
2 years ago
Reply to  steve

It was a good post I agree with most, Cow is usually bang on the money, I’m sure he’s not a journalist though!… Before Levy we won a pot on average once every 3 years.. We held the record for most fa cup wins (soon lost that record to Manure and now the Arse hold it).. We were nicknamed the cup kings…. Under Levy we have won nothing and are now at the stage where ‘spursy’ has become a meme and is in fact an accurate description of what we have really become…. “a million miles ahead of where we were” is true in our revenue (which has improved for all clubs thanks to tv rights) and also the ginormous debt… What’s really important for a club of our stature is quality scouts and coaches from the academy all the way up.. Which is a million miles behind all the top clubs, which is why our first team is never good enough to win anything.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago
Reply to  East Stand

Absolutely. The top brass have come out and TOLD us in plain English what the coup is and some still can’t grasp what is occuring.

What part of….”it’s an NFL stadium” don’t they understand?

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Facilities….shiney stadium….

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

No masses being agreed with here. The few on here were up against it for yeeeears trying to warn of the parisites who have destroyed THFC in all but name.
Very much the minority, who have been proved right, sadly some STILL think what’s gone on is some kind of positive progress. The penny won’t drop for another 30 years I expect.

Last edited 2 years ago by Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
CowSpurs
CowSpurs
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

I am all for different viewpoints as long as they are not misguided opinions or based on half truths. You inferred that ENIC brought Spurs back from the ‘brink of oblivion’, ergo ‘Levy is our saviour’, no? I disagree that ENIC saved the club from oblivion, as it was Sugar who bought Spurs off Scholar, therefore I have every right to question what they are supposed to have done. ENIC could have turned Spurs in to a force on the football pitch, just like Roman did at Chelsea. ‘Could have’ being the key words. Instead, ENIC have turned us into a force on a Deloitte spreadsheet because it was cheaper to do so as an investment opportunity. This means absolutely nothing to fans of a team who saw them win trophies and get to finals regularly in the 60s, 70s, 80s finishing with an FA Cup in 1991 only for us to win 2 League cups in 22 years under their stewardship. ENIC rode the wave of success of the EPL brand and got lucky in one managerial appointment (Poch) who took us beyond even Levy’s hopes. Few fans will forgive the manner in which Levy left our most important squad, since Bill Nich’s 60s, to fester and die.

I will argue my corner in a respectful manner with anyone, but first and foremost I don’t base my viewpoints on opinionated waffle. Some postees need to actually read what they write before announcing it to the world. This is a blog where Levy does not hold much sway, but I have yet to read from anyone why he should be held in high esteem and believe me I am willing to listen. He is so important to the club I love winning trophies that the day we do it consistently I will hold him in higher regard, but I won’t hold my breath. The history of the club had a lot to do with why I chose Spurs. We might not have been behemoths like Liverpool but we won trophies. It’s not as though I am a Palace fan who have won nothing and I expect a cup or two. I just wish ENIC knew what Spurs were before deciding to buy them. They should have bought Palace, for everyone’s sake. Spurs would have been bought by someone, who knows how it would have turned out, but Wigan have won more FA Cups than we have since ENIC took over. That is quite damning. A right to free speech should not be interpreted as a right to speak nonsense.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
2 years ago
Reply to  Stewart Smith

And what are/is the truth and the facts ?

Jez
Jez
2 years ago
Reply to  Sonificent

Listen ‘Son’ do us a favour go away. All you posts seem to be written by a 5 year old

You sound like the biggest W***er with the smallest willie. Either grow up or f**k off and post on tik tok. @Harry do you really want this type of poster on here? Tappa gets a proper going over for his views, but this doughnut can carry just because he agrees with the masses.

I have been here for years and get turned off due to people like this, I go away and come back hoping things might have changed, but no they have reproduced like cockroaches

F***ing Imbecile

Stewart Smith
Stewart Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

You’re right (not that you need myself or anyone telling you so)

Stewart Smith
Stewart Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

Agreed. Again.

Stewart Smith
Stewart Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

Well said!
(Totally not bothered by those that can’t/won’t fully comprehend, accept or even acquiesce to truth or facts & wish to be whingeing & negative in perpetuity).

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

Because not every club like Spurs is in the top 10 of richest clubs.

Our owners have the available finance to propel our club to success. They choose not to, unlike their counterparts. There in lies the difference.

I doubt you’d have the same opinion had Roman got, in your words, grubby little hands on our club and had we enjoyed the same success as Chelsea.

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

Your definition of last time needs a little help too. See you above post. Feel free to reply or not as it’s amusing tripe.

Jez
Jez
2 years ago
Reply to  Sonificent

It was me that upvoted that comment, thought I’d give you a little moment

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

Blind optimism tends not to advance the club too far. But you keep on keeping on.

Jez
Jez
2 years ago
Reply to  CowSpurs

Where did I say levy was our saviour? Nowhere, but I did say in my original response was if anyone doesn’t conform to popular opinion, we are automatically wrong and ridiculed.

I am of the belief that we have a pretty good footing for the next few years, fair enough not everyone agrees and maybe it’s blind optimism. But the Levy out brigade undermine their argument by resorting to childish responses and calling people “Donna” if someone disagrees.

When you write a blog, you should be inviting different viewpoints it creates a healthy environment for debate, seems we cannot even do that on here.

Maybe its should be written and have the comments turned off.

Just an idea

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

Ok toolbag. Carry on your love fest with a business model while the rest lament the constant failure of the football team under this ownership. Bore off now.

Jez
Jez
2 years ago
Reply to  Sonificent

Last time I will reply to you now as you are annoying…… please read the below definition of Arguably. Thank you and good night 🙂

“arguably”

adverb

  1. it may be argued (used to qualify the statement of an opinion or belief).
  2. “she is arguably the greatest woman tennis player of all time”
Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  Sonificent

We would arguably be in the top 4…..all conjecture and nonsense.

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  Spurs est_1882

Uncle Joe got burned taking currency risk years ago. We are seeing the ball shrinkage that has occurred since then.

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  CowSpurs

There are no facts – just trolls. Probably just finished homeschool.

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

You talk rubbish and if you don’t have any facts available then get back to your Horlicks, my dear.

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

You are far too clever and you must be right. My apologies, Donna Cullen. You Pratt.

Jez
Jez
2 years ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Jesus your like broken records… if 10years is enough, or even 22 years. Why isn’t every club doing it? why isn’t every club winning titles every year…..and building the infrastructure around it? it because it simply isn’t possible! Take out the oil money and the titles they have won by those clubs since they got their grubby little hands on it and the landscape would have been much more different to what it is now. Someone quoted Leicester above, that would never happen again in anyone’s lifetime and is a laughable comparison.

Again, for fear of being pigeon holed, I am not happy with our lack of honours. But lets not kid ourselves that its worse than what it is. But then people just like to moan about things anyway…. It’s like reading a blog written by my mother in law ffs

CowSpurs
CowSpurs
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

Scholar didn’t sell up to ENIC though. He sold to Sugar, who ran the club like a business, just like Levy has. We might not have been any good under Sugar but we were far from oblivion. All ENIC did for 15 years was ride the cash from the EPL without putting any of their billions into it to expand. They have since put the club in £500m debt by risking a stadium build. He is far from our saviour. Arguing we would be in the top 4 if it wasn’t for City and Chelsea is not a discussion we should have. It is nonsensical. Stick to facts, not make believe.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

The history books will only show a club’s record of winning and losing. Chelsea before Roman is irrelevant when you compare what they’ve won and what we’ve won in the same period of his ownership.

Had Daniel not sent Roman off with a flea in his ear all those years ago then those history books could well read differently.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
2 years ago
Reply to  steve

The point about Lamela is that he should’ve been moved on years before he was. The likes of Winks, Dele, Dier have all reached that point of no return. They’ve been at the club too long and offer title to no return for their wages.

It’s our recruitment policy under ENIC not revenue from the stadium that’s the problem. The buy cheap option we always take has rarely worked.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

22 years for bringing a business back from the brink is more than long enough. A decade is long enough if the job is done properly.

The investment should have been in building a successful football team then build an infrastructure around it.

Jez
Jez
2 years ago
Reply to  East Stand

Your like a guard dog 🙂

Jez
Jez
2 years ago
Reply to  Toby Pierides

Haha ‘deluded’, that word is an often used by Chelsea fans towards other fans…those same fans that had no recollection of previous endeavours before Roman took over. Normally in the 15-21 year old bracket. Showing your age there Tobes

Jez
Jez
2 years ago
Reply to  Sonificent

Read it again, put the brain in gear then reply…. even the last 2 paragraphs will be enough. There’s a good lad

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez

Levy has delivered less trophies than Leicester. Put us in world record debt. Yep – he’s doing a great job.

steve
steve
2 years ago
Reply to  Toby Pierides

Thanks, i could very well end up being deluded, who knows, ultimately time will tell. Levy employee? yeah sure i must be, just because i have a different take on the drivel that is contained within the article. Times are a changing, as has been shown by the PL clubs voting to block any mega money sponsorship deals being signed by clubs where the sponsors have close ties to the owners of the clubs. Its going to be harder (hopefully) for these mega rich owners to simply just pump money into clubs, making it more of a level playing field – or like you say, maybe i am deluded in thinking that will happen.

Jez
Jez
2 years ago

We are still at it on here, if somebody has a different opinion they are levy/enic apologists. For those of you old enough to remember, s**t started to hit the fan when Scholar was chairman and we were on the brink of administration.

Take away the oil money whereby Chelsea, Man City have riddled themselves in dirty money and even dirtier sponsorship deals. We would, arguably be quite comfortable in the top 4 on a regular basis with a manageable debt and higher, less unscrupulous revenue streams.

The only club I would really offer a comparison of is Liverpool, they have done it spot over the last few years If Oil barons wish to throw 300-500k per week at players leave them at it.

Think we should take a step back and smell the coffee, Yes it is galling if your neighbour has a Tesla and a bird with big T*T’s that he maxes his credit card for each month, however it doesn’t make it the right thing to do.

Not a great fan of Enic, but do any of us really know how big a job it is to bring a club the size of Spurs back from the brink of oblivion and maintain that position in the current climate when wages, player cost, agent fees have been skewed out of all proportion by these money grabbing b******ds?…. I don’t think we do.

Just because some of us don’t agree with these endless ‘Enic out’ blogs doesn’t mean we are happy with our lot either.

East Stand
East Stand
2 years ago
Reply to  The Boy

It’s funny that these loons accuse us all of basing everything on supposition when they can’t produce a shred of evidence to the contrary themselves.

”anchor tenants” was an official club announcement yet it’s just a ‘turn of phrase’ it’s nothing. Bonkers…

Toby Pierides
Toby Pierides
2 years ago
Reply to  King paul

Praise be to the stadium!

Is that you Mrs Levy? Or are you Tappa in disguise?

Toby Pierides
Toby Pierides
2 years ago
Reply to  steve

Sorry but I think you are deluded if you think any increased turnover will result in higher spending on players. You do have the look of a Levy employee in everything you have written.

You have been disingenuous in trying to compare ENIC’s reign with their immediate predecessor who was a prime example of a philistine, with no interest in the game of football. Whatever anybody might have said about Irving Scholar, he was a real fan of the team and we had success all through the eighties. We one trophies and had players in the squads who we had bought at the peak of their careers for top money. Rather than feeding the media fake accounts of chasing top players before then doing cheapskate deals on hopeful punts.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago

The ‘sh$t in the ninety’s ‘ strawman is out again….

Oh when Lord?

steve
steve
2 years ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Agreed about the 3 transfer windows without activity, that hurt the club and is still taking time to rectify.
Lamela was Sh%$^ and injury prone, thats why he never become a first team regular.
Reason our players take 2 seasons to bed in – simple really, we aren’t shopping in the John Lewis’ of this world, our turnover has never really allowed it due to the limited income WHL provided. Remember, we havent yet seen the results of what a full season at the new ground can do for our finances.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
2 years ago

100% right

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
2 years ago
Reply to  steve

I think you need de programming… You are a shinning example of the cult of ENIC.

We’ve won one trophy in 22 years. If you think that’s success compared to what came before you are far too deep.

Emerson has shown little for me to think there’s a defender in there. Why do Spurs transfers take 2 seasons to bed in where other clubs transfers tend to hit the ground running. We kept Lamela for 10 years under 4 managers and he still couldn’t get a regular first team place.

We had an opportunity in 2015/6 to really become a force. ENIC & Levy chose not to. Three missed transfer windows will haunt this club for a decade possibly longer.

steve
steve
2 years ago

LOL. ENIC took over in the late 90’s/early 0’s, glory we had before then was long gone, the downward spiral was already in effect or do you forget that?
After winning the fa cup in 91, to 2001 when ENIC took over, our league positions ranged from as high as 7th in 94/95 to as low as 15th in both 91/92 and 93/94. Such dizzying heights, European football was almost non existent. Since their takeover, barring 2003/04 when we finished 14th, we have shown signs of progress, including since 2009/2010 not finishing outside the top 6. In todays football world, where you have billionaire owners willing to throw obscene money at a hobby, i would class that as real progress. We have been close to winning on numerous occasions over the past few years, unfortunately not close enough. And unfortunately, domestically, theres only 3 trophies up for grabs, meaning theres going to be a lot of disappointed fans/clubs/players each season.
Ardiles & Waddle were early to mid 80s players when we were winning trophies, times like that you will always attract world class talent. Lineker, early 90’s signing, although towards the tail end of his career, Klinsmann another signing, mid 90’s again towards the tail end of his career. Klinsmann signing the 2nd time around was in the hope we staved off relegation – really successful – we finished 14th, 4 points above relegated bolton. this success you speak of prior to ENIC was really setting the world alight – sigh.
As for managers turning us down in the summer – not actually read one article with evidence that we were actually in for any manager other than Fonseca, everything else is just spin from SKY – who lets face it, never really have anything good to say about us anyway. I am prepared to listen, if someone brings facts to the table to back up their argument. Don’t get me wrong, ENIC are by all means not perfect, but I would rather see our club survive than have owners like Leeds did and almost have no club left after failed attempts at chasing Glory

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
2 years ago
Reply to  King paul

It’s a strange argument when somebody basis their whole opinion of the dodgy shenanigans of ENIC solely on the stadium build and not the football success, or lack of. It’s almost like you’ve swallowed the ENIC bait hook, line and sinker and are a paid up member of Levy’s personal supporters club. Perhaps you are destined to be a follower and never a leader?

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
2 years ago

The fact Levy has an asking price of £3.5 billion tells you that he knows how much of a cash cow THFC are.

By pricing it so high he knows it prices out pretty much any potential buyer. If there was or is a buyer mug enough to actually pay the price he also knows that he and ENIC walk away with what could be one of the best investments of £22 million ever. Either way, he and ENIC can’t lose.

Love or hate them. You have to admire their business acumen.

ENIC OUT !

MarkP
MarkP
2 years ago

Fan since 94, something is rotten in the club, I refuse to dpend money on anything spurs, I refuse to allow my children to support spurs. I lost faith too much dissapointment!

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago
Reply to  eddie

Just what I was thinking. Under siege from the PR dept.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago
Reply to  King paul

Perhaps you should listen to the people who were involved in it’s creation.

“It’s an NFL stadium and that’s the key message, from the very start we’ve had the NFL in mind. The anchor tenant is Tottenham Hotspur, but this is designed to be a permanent home for the NFL outside the US”

It’s an NFL/event arena not a football ground. You’re telling me to go to matches yet you don’t know what an English football ground is supposed to look like. I went to matches when we were a football club at WHL. A proper football ground not a corporate centrepiece for a gentrification nightmare.
All the best remortgaging your house to pay for Levys grandkids riding lessons.

Last edited 2 years ago by Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago

And I thought we were progressing, that people were waking up.. oh well.
The Kool aid is 100% proof, let them continue on in an ever decreasing world of spreadsheets, net spend , NFL and jam tomorrow.
It’s not Tottenham.

I can’t believe there’s still people saying we are a million miles away from when Levy came in, unless of course they mean in the sense we are a destroyed football club who’s owners care nothing for on the pitch success and that we are unrecognizable. It’s a lost cause.

Last edited 2 years ago by Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
eddie
eddie
2 years ago

There are too many down voters on this site at the moment for them not to be part of the ENIC sppin machine.It seems anything negative about ENIC,Levy or Lewis is immediately seized upon.But they never offer a counter arguement.Funny that.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago
Reply to  steve

Ahhh, the PR personel arrive.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
2 years ago

I think what this thread proves is that sadly there is still a sprinkling of dumb dumbs out there, presumably the same ones that downvote all the sensible posts re. Levy and enic. The mind boggles at what it will take to teach these dinosaurs of low intelligence and of tunnel vision the facts re. THFC and ENIC. Some of their arguments are literally laughable. My favourite being the wally who says that Lewis and Levy have personally underwritten £600m of debt because they are such nice fellows. Laugh? I almost fell over. If you are going to come on here and make a complete fool of yourself, then please look up hr facts first.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
2 years ago
Reply to  King paul

It’s hard to take somebody seriously who calls himself “King”. Supreme arrogance attempting to substantiate a lack of argument.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
2 years ago
Reply to  steve

“million miles ahead of where we have come from”. Really, so all those trophies in the eighties and early nineties that included 2 European trophies, 3 FA cups and League cups stood for nothing in your eyes? How about the players we attracted back then like Ardilles, Waddle, Lineker and Klinsmann – real world class talent. This was all inferior to today was it? We were a true giant back then that substantiated our position by regularly winning trophies. I would even go as far as to say that the wide ranging support we have around the world today is purely based on that success, not anything today. The sixties success is probably too far gone now to have any impact.
In footballing terms we are a million miles AWAY from where we were in the eighties and early nineties. And that rests solely on our owners and Mr Levy in particular for being the strategist behind this drought of footballing success.
Paratici’s “vast knowledge of the player market” is null and void with Levy holding the purse strings isn’t it? The only time Levy mentions the likes of Suarez, Hazard, Fernandez, Dybala, Skriniar etc is when it’s season ticket renewal time. Once that has passed the he goes back to mostly buying his cheap punts again.
What really exposed Levy for the cheapskate crook he is was the Conte affair. Conte called Levy’s bluff in requiring the funds to win trophies. Levy ran a mile in the opposite direction at the thought of having to fork out money for trophies!!
As for investment we have always gone for low net spend, even at WHL long before the new stadium, often the lowest net spend in the entire division despite being the 8th richest club in the world even back then. You are clutching st straws on that one. I hope I’m wrong though and Levy does break the habit of a lifetime.
Add to that the fact that virtually no manager worth his salt wants to work for the man and it tells you an awful lot – presuming you are prepared to listen or whether you are past the point of saving from yourself.

Last edited 2 years ago by Glory Costs Too Much
iNUNOtherapy
iNUNOtherapy
2 years ago

Levy has duped us all. We have won nothing under Enic and will win nothing as long as they are at the helm. This article is spot on. And who will buy us from Enic? Who can afford the reputed 3.5 billion they want for the club? My issue is that Spurs fans zombie their way through life thinking that top 4 is the best we can hope for. These zombies will still follow the club on social media and buy overpriced merchandise from the Spurs shop, basically just lining Enic’s pockets with nothing in return but mediocrity. I’ve supported Spurs for 40 years and I’ve come to the sad conclusion that we won’t win the PL title or CL in my life time….yes, it’s depressing but its a harsh reality!

East Stand
East Stand
2 years ago
Reply to  King paul

You won’t be posting anymore anyway, because you’re an idiot…

Spurs est_1882
Spurs est_1882
2 years ago

Levy is doing his job of running a business very well…his biggest floor however is his in-ability to see success on the field results in larger investment on sponsorship. Winning trophies will boost brand awareness. ENIC’s biggest problem over the years has actually been a simple one, they dont like taking risks. They would rather play safe, invest ENOUGH to reach the level with the biggest pay off (top 4) but not what it takes to be champions. Because to invest that much and not make it is a huge risk. That is why we are a better team than we were before they came (until past 2yrs) but still no closer to being champions. Even when we were “close” were we really? Was there really a year where we thought we could win? Closest was the Leicester year, and lets face it, the league itself bent over backwards to help Leicester.

ENIC simply are not here to turn us into champions, they are here to milk the cash cow.

steve
steve
2 years ago

Seriously, this is supposed “journalism”? Levy gets paid a salary for running a business, which is essentially what professional football clubs are, and in terms of where we were to where we are now, we are a million miles ahead of where we have come from. If anything, Levy is to hands on with everything he does, he should rightly leave the footballer side of the business to those with knowledge when it comes to buying players.
For you to say “and the absolute plum that is Royal to replace him”, the guy has played what 4 or 5 games, in a new country, new league and due to farcical international breaks (i call it a farce, as we are still in pandemic and to send players half way round the world, meeting up with other players who player in different countries is a joke), means that he has barely had much time to get used to his team mates nor environment. With Paratici onboard, more signings will be made using his vast knowledge of the player market.
In terms of spending, due to the pandemic, the club hasnt been able to generate as much income from either football nor other events the stadium was designed and built to host. Hopefully now these have started back again, we will see an improved amount of investment on the playing side, after all, as has been pointed out, the club owns the stadium, any income it generates goes into the P&L. After all, we managed to compete in the upper echelons of the league with a smaller stadium and less income.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
2 years ago
Reply to  King paul

For a start Lewis nor Levy have done any personal underwriting of the debt, this is important because it means the club can be sold anytime… They bought the club for 22 million odd nearly 23 years ago. Lewis is worth 3 and a half billion and has never invested a penny.. In recent years Levy went into forbes billionaire list.. Levy gave himself 4 million salary plus a 3 million bonus for building the stadium, which was late and overbudget, putting the club in to serious debt.. This is all unheard of in any other business… We rake in so much money we are top ten in the world.. Levy is now a billionaire… But we still have rubbish scouts and coaches from the youth up, our squad as a whole is nowhere near any top team… We have some of the richest owners in football yet they have refused from the start to buy marquee world class players.. They have clearly taken from the club since they arrived, they will take until they leave, they will take even more profit when they eventually sell.. All they clearly care about is the money. We care about the players and the football which has been going downhill for some time… We care about winning… 1 league cup in 22 years is embarrassing mate…….. Now Levy came out a few years ago and told us all that ‘spending on players doesn’t guarantee success’.. So why on earth has he gone on this whole revenue/profit venture then? Its clearly not to spend on players.. Our owners have proved they only care about profit and money, us fans care about the football, having a good team and winning trophies.

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  King paul

It’s the watching games but that’s important rather than sitting in an overpriced toilet bowl with a cheese room. Keep lapping up the stadium while the team continues to go down said toilet bowl.

Sonificent
Sonificent
2 years ago
Reply to  King paul

Personally underwriting 600m debt. Please provide evidence of that you Wally.

East Stand
East Stand
2 years ago

Great post Cowza. Levy just isn’t fit for purpose, unless of course the football side of it is supposed to be a complete Irrelevance…

Bertoliver
Bertoliver
2 years ago
Reply to  King paul

I believe the debt is all on THFC not ENIC. As regards to enriching themselves they paid 50 million to buy the club which they believe now to be worth 3.5 billion and since then have never invested a penny. levy is the highest paid chairman in the league paying bonuses for projects he f.caked up. You couldn’t meet two more greedy loathsome characters than Levy and Lewis

King paul
King paul
2 years ago

Utter garbage. Its a football stadium and a very, very good one at that. Maybe you and harry should try attending games every now and then

King paul
King paul
2 years ago

Crappy rant from someone who knows nothing. Tell me how Lewis and Levy have ‘lined their pockets’ by personally underwriting £600m of debt. I am all ears

São Paulo Spurs
São Paulo Spurs
2 years ago

Yes, great post and accurately sums up the state of affairs at Spurs right now. I’d much rather see well thought out posts like this than some other guest blogs trying to convince us we are open to buying Chelsea players. More please

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago

And suspend your disbelief. Madrid can’t beat Fc Sheriff at the Bernabau but can comfortably put 5 past Shaktar at their place.

Total corrupt joke.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago

Yes. Primarily NFL stadium. For tourists not a football club. That pantomime suited it.
I see after a year off the refs are back behind Liverpool again this time. Red card and a pen to get them through a fixed job tonight.
Blue year, red year, blue year, red year….yaaaaawn.

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