This is a rarity in the Harry Kane transfer debate, a case being made for Harry staying at Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, opposed to leaping into the arms of AN Other club this summer.
Whilst this is a perfectly plausible scenario, it’s a narrative that doesn’t fit with what Kane has said in the past when speaking about his desire to win trophies. At Spurs, his options not only look limited in that respect, but there is also a constant noise about the club that José Mourinho is in fact the wrong man for the coaching position at Spurs.
This would then dictate that Harry would be willing to stick with us come hell or high water. This I find ambitious.
Not that debatable, mate
Bergwijn was publicly disowned
Gedson returned to sender
Bale he hates
Vinicius he hates
Doherty he’s reluctant to play
Reggie was a not quite free gift
Hojbjerg is the only one I could imagine JM in cold blood asked for/approved.
He won fck all in 6 year’s.
The history books show our heaviest European thumping I know that much
He’ll need to win that big cup if he wants to come back to Tottenham one day.
Was it that much? Struth…
Since that period of time however, we’ve actually signed about 11 players. Eight of which were with Jose installed at the club as manager. So which of them is/was in s more difficult situation is debatable, and it seems to be a recurring theme.
One thing is sure, Levy is generally unhelpful when it comes to anything sensible football wise…
Nope. Fck you
Didn’t Levy have £340million up his jumper that he put towards the shopping center?
Poch got snowflakes playing well – for a limited period of time.
In the end, we played 25 matches, and we got 26 points from them.
We couldn’t beat Colchester United.
We couldn’t win away for 11 months.
And we were humbled by Bournemouth, Burnley & Brighton.
There you go, blaming Poch’s ‘snowflakes’ as being central to Jose’s woes. So Pochettino can get snowflakes playing well but Jose can’t? How the f*ck do you know that they’re snowflakes? I’m sure if Winks or Dier tacked you, you’d know about it.
Not sure what your point is exactly, but hey what’s new?
You can’t even spell diarrhea so I couldn’t give a sh*t… get it? 😂
Spot on.
How can you look at his comparative budget compared to the teams he’s got to beat to win big trophies and ignore it, as if it has nothing whatsoever to do with the equation?
Some people are just being deliberately ignorant to prove a point. Facts is facts and plonkers is plonkers…
Instead of I mean
Pray tell how did he bottle it? By playing Kane of Lucas? Hardly defensive that
The fact Klopp spent about £100m more on his team that season was irrelevant I suppose? The keeper, Virgil and others transformed them, after we’d beaten them 4-1 at Wembley the season before and he subbed off Lovren.
Poch wasn’t backed, he had no incoming transfers for 12 months before that final. Criminal neglect.
So therefore if he does get sacked, he will be no worse than those other names you mentioned, while getting further in Europe than any of them. But I suppose you’ll be getting all excited about it because you will hope it proves a point for you. It won’t, Pochettino has already proved himself, you’re just bitter.
According to your logic, Di Matteo, Grant, Ramos etc are better mangers because they oversaw trophy wins. This is clearly nonsense.
Not true. He had the chance to win the CL and bottled it with his team selection. Liverpool were there for the taking and he got conservative when attacking would’ve got the result we all craved.
Totally
I’m being realistic about things, something you seem to find impossible. You’re the tw*t who keeps getting it wrong… 😂
Right, so it’s all relative. Spurs had been around 8th to mid table most of the time for the previous 30 years or more. Apart from a decent season under Jol and then Arry later got 4th once.
Taking all that into account, and that Poch’s consecutive League placings are a club record. I rather think you’re basing this on some weird affection for Moany and a deep dislike of Pochettino.
He did very well under the circumstances. Besides, why the hell are you a Spurs fan if anything other than 1st is a losers place? The last 40 years must have been tough for you. You talk in riddles…
I did seem a bit fishy how everyone seemed to be against us and all up for the fairytale instead…
F*ck Poch though innit.
Spot on
We finished 11 points behind Leicester that season only taking 2 points out our final 4 games. Even if we’d won all of those matches we would still finished behind Leicester.
What is most galling is that over that and the following season we got more points than anyone.
So hyperthetically if we win the League Cup and finish 7th in the league, our lowest position for 12 years, will that be a good season? Will that make Harry stay or make the club attractive to other players?
Unfortunately finishing 2nd 3rd and 4th has become more important than winning domestic cups given its entry into Europe’s promised land.
Personally I regret this turn of events but that’s how it is. For example since Klopps arrival at Liverpool when have found themselves in the latter stages of any domestic cup?
That talented squad as you say in the previous season lost 6 0 and 5 1 to City 5 0 and 4 0 to Liverpool and 4 0 to Chelsea. If they had ability they kept it hidden. In his time at Spurs he developed players into internationals Walker, Rose, Mason Townsend and of course Kane.
Two people made Kane the player he is today, Kane himself and Pochettino.
I think they lost it at Chelsea cos they knew it was fixed. Chelsea turned up for that match like a cup final and no other…refs were doing Leicester favours(the most favoured team in Europe statistically by officials that year), teams were rolling over against them, it was a joke and it all got too much. That’s without the doping. Prem had a multi billion new contract that season and needed a “fairytale” to push it.
And he didn’t win anything cos of the net spend and owners neglect….simple.
Yeah our best player leave us thats just what we want…. Tw@t
LOL there you go for the hundredth time with the wage and spend… Its Levy you should be praising for that…. And Kane is the reason we got top four repeatedly, he carried us year after year…… Nit picking garbage? How is an empty trophy cabinet in 6 years nit picking? The game is about winning and the guy won nothing… I don’t care for 2nd 3rd or 4th… They are losers spots.
Avram Grant and Di Matteo won trophies at Chavs, great managers? Nope.
What like the League Cup? Is Ramos a great manager? What else has he done? More nonsense…
No multiple paragraphs and you’re very wrong about everything… I would never want Botch to fail why on earth would I want that! And backing up Maureen with Botchs failure? Wtf are you on?.. I never said Bayern would wipe the floor with PSG you are a straight up liar, accused me in the past of making things up, yet it pours out of your mouth. Verbal diarrea… I thought Bayern were slight favourites until Lewendoski was out, then I thought the pendulum swung towards PSG. I don’t even know who were favourites with the bookies… Have you ever played or worked in football? Done any of your coaching badges? Imagine a manager coming into a new team and not telling most of them they’re great. He was supposed to tell everyone they’re 💩 was he? Get real and think. What would that have done to Botches precious broken snowflakes. Mentality is everything….. When we were top of the league Maureen was telling everyone we’re no way good enough and he needs four years like Klopp… I’m no juvenile.. You’re a plonker.
You can attemp to sully his record with Spurs all you like with your nit-picking garbage.
The history books will always show our highest ever Premier League placing four years running and the only time we’ve ever reached that stage of the Champions League and with regular participation.
This was all done with the 7th highest wage bill and the 17th highest net spend. Nobody will care about people like you slagging him off.
His League record just makes the likes of you look like sniping little haters. So carry on…
I agree on Eriksen, although Levy clearly wanted to sell him on for big money at some point but it backfired. He left it two years too late, Eriksen should have gone and the money put back into the side, at one point we’d have got about 50m at his peak. If all we can do is sell to buy, then it needs to be done properly. Levy being penny wise and pound foolish as usual.
We needed a few more leaders in the team, I don’t think there was a single natural skipper. Or certainly someone to help Hugo out, we lost our heads at Stamford Bridge and a mature influential head out on the pitch would’ve made all the difference. Just my take on it and I thought it at the time.
Tintin and Coco let Botch down…. If they had won something under him then spot on.. Ones been injured and achieved nothing in his time here bar a couple rabonas… And Tintin was the biggest bottlejob ever… A title race and two finals he folded every time.
He inherited some very good players many in their prime, and many misfits, a large squad with room and time to build…. In 5 years he bought in 27 players and sold over 40. Most acadamy boys were sold or went out on loan… He should never have sold Siggurdson and he never played Dembele in big games until 2 years odd prefering lightweight centre mids….. Lloris Vertongen Rose Walker Dembele (Tintin before his confidence crumbled) Kane… Quality players at the top of their game……. Now it was Harry Redknapp who gave Kane his debut in the ropey. Shamrock Rovers…. And it was Sherwood who gave him his debut in the prem after he had been ripping up the ropey league and cup games for weeks…. Botchy didn’t debut Kane, he was lucky to inherit him in his prime. Golden boot 4 years in a row… Kane is the real reason we had Champions league football. His goals have carried us over the years.
Sad state of affairs if our only chance was when Leicester won it. But we had a poor start & they never slipped up as expected. Then at the end refs were turning blind eyes to pens against them. Year after we had more points than Leicester did when they won it Chelsea finished 10th that year & 6th 2 years later , but bloody won it when we won 26 drew 8 & lost only 4 & matched our record of 50-51. Even when we get it right we have no luck
Aye they want that CL.. Tuchel was sacked well quick because of 2 losses in the league though. Their board expects the league. Mbappe and Neymar alone are worth more than most ligue 1 teams.
16/17 was the season, but Poch obviously felt his team had the physiological bit covered to get us over, but it was the mental bit that players choked on and I think that goes down to Poch.
This is what a footballing club would do – not what Levy will do.
He just can’t help himself – he’s not ambitious for glory – only for money $$$
When Poch took over there was a lot of sorting out that needed to happen. The only two from the ‘magnificent’ 7 to survive were Eriksen and Lamela. Seeing as none of those players went on to do anything after leaving Spurs, I make Pochettino spot on. Much of the Bale money was wasted by Baldini and AVB on misfits…
Surely get rid of Sissoko & the other idiots & replace with quality & keep our best. Oh sorry need new owners 1st
If Spurs had right coach & board , then the club would be successful Poch proved it, without the right board
Keep it going, you predicted that Bayern would wipe the floor with them, so right again I see.
PSG had loads of injuries in midfield and defence and according to a French football writer speaking before the match, people in France thought they’d be up against it. He also said that the problems PSG have aren’t considered to be with the management and that Pochettino is well thought of.
So I’ll take his word for it, rather than your constant juvenile sniping, jealousy of the man and your wishing him to fail.
Jose’s our manager now, he took the job and went on about what a great squad we had. He has to back it up, regardless of what Pochettino might or might not be doing. All you’ve got to back up Jose is any game PSG fail to win. It’s a bit pathetic innit.
Your Poch voodoo doll must be in shreds this morning! 😂
If he’d have been backed rather than having to work with the 7th wage budget and the 16th highest net spend in the league, I’m sure he would have got us over the line.
Whatever happens, Poch was the best coach we could get our hands on with the way our club is run. It’s criminal how Levy allowed the whole thing to go to seed. The guy really is a piece of work…
Poch did not inherit a strong squad on his arrival at Spurs. At best it can be described as dysfunctional given that it contained the Bale money signings,and also contained many players who Gary Neville described as bad eggs.
To survive he had to jettison these players and introduce in some cases untried academy players.
He was the one that gave Kane his chance for which we should all be eternally grateful.
He’s having a decent first season, they had a lot of injuries last night PSG. Poch isn’t perfect but he was more than good enough for us. Shoulda been backed and given time to rebuild…
I think he fell out with Leeds directors more than Spurs. Spurs whilst having a large Jewish fan base didn’t have Jewish directors until the 1980s
In regards to PSG all they want to win is the Champions League. In the time that the current owners have been in charge they have dominated French football with a host of high profile managers Ancelotti,Blanc, Emery and Tuchel all winning domestic trebles and even quadruples. However failure to win the biggest prize, the ECL, has ultimately led to their departures.
Poch has an 18 month contract which potentially means he will get two goes at winning the tournament. If he doesn’t, irrespective of what they achieve at home I suspect he will go the way of his predecessors.
They did well to beat Bayern… This has taken some pressure off him… But still many aren’t happy in Paris, they are nailed on to win the league every year, winning 8 or 9 of the last 10.. It’s deemed as a one horse race. After repeated losses they have their work cut out to win the league now.. Botch has been under pressure weeks now….. Not many rubbish him as a coach. He’s widely regarded as world class… Its him managing that raises eyebrows and questions. Dodgy manager. Ligue 1 table is telling, they shouldn’t be there with that team… And he failed to manage to win with us after inheriting a good team and building for 5 years.. We were never winning the league the previous 20 years with United Chelsea and City dominating… Our chance was when Leicester won it.. Birmingham Portsmouth and Stoke won cups.. Arsenal won 4 or 5 fa cups, and all that time Botchy failed to win anything…. Great MANAGERS win stuff..
Poch is in Champions league Semifinals again he is 2 games away to win it and do what he couldn’t do it with Spurs hope it works for him I think it will be Poch vs Guardiola in the final and anyone who losses will be devastating for him let’s see and wait.
Tottenham seriously thinking Nuno Spirito Santo Wolves Manager to become potential successor of Jose Mourinho.
I have read lots of players stories from the fifties and sixties and a lot of them say they wouldn’t swap with modern day players and all their riches. Sadly money has broken the link between players and fans.
Poch knocks out Bayern:~}
Different age from the majority of players now. Most of them were fans living the dream versus the w****** out there now. Few exceptions obviously!
Kane, son, Reg and PEH apart, you could make a strong case for replacing everyone else fo4 a serviceable first XI. Levy won’t spend the money.
Seem to remember him beating Real Madrid as well.
I think Poch is/was well liked even magic you know, it was getting a side over the line was the concern.
But PSG is a different beast, they operate differently, but yes he’s working with what he’s been given.
Produced some great players, Willie Morgan, Leighton James too.
It must be a culture shock to Poch to be at a club where expectations are high. If City do get through I can see PSG doing serious damage to them on the break.
You just have to watch the Spurs players – when they look up and see that the pass to Sissoko is on – they hesitate and look for an alternative player who can control a pass. The only time Sissoko gets the all is when he out muscles an opponent – Harry must wonder why he’s on the same pitch never mind at the same club. I would question Harry’s ambition if he doesn’t leave this summer.
I love that story. My best friend at school lived in Whalley, nr Clitheroe, Lancs and was a made keen Burnley fan and they became my second favourite team. I remember going to the Burnley Blackburn local derby in the early 70s. Burnley always had a great youth academy and produced players like Frank Casper, Dave Thomas, Martin Dobson and our own Ralph Coates. I remember that Bob Lord, a local butcher was the chairman in those days, and wouldn’t invite the Spurs directors into the boardroom as he was a noted anti- Semite. This story reminds me of a spoof article in Private Eye when Gazza was in the process of signing for Lazio and he asked his agent if the Italian club would let him sing Fog on the Tyne with Lindisfarne and he wanted a case of Newcastle Brown delivered to his apartment every day
‘Botch’ don’t you mean?!
Kane clearly has to leave the ENIC time wasters behind…
PSG were seriously affected by injuries, the opinion of Poch in France is high and many over there didn’t expect PSG to get through, because of how depleted in defensive areas and midfield they were.
The guy has now beaten both Barca and Bayern in Europe in his first season. Sure, the expectation is high at PSG but so far he seems able to cope with it. Anyone still rubbishing him as a coach is quite obviously a prize pranny…
Pocho is through on away goals….
A one club man Le Tissier, he had the Dell and bit of character in the club…..what’s Kane left with?
NFL merch that you can order online.
Harry Kane has been very clear on what he wants.
Ultimately Daniel Levy will be the reason for Harry leaving or not and this isn’t due to the fact that there is a contract in place and the Chairman is playing berty big balls.
Levy can win Harry over but its a how they will win the league in Harrys career and have a good shot at the champions league.
In pochs first five years there seemed to be a project whether you agreed with the specifics or not, but facilities and Stadiums improved and the manager got the team in to the champions league ahead of schedule.
And in Harry’s mind great and that’s job done.
But then we have had the last 2 seasons ( even a bit longer if you remove the seemingly lucky CL run). Where certain individuals have improved but others haven’t, signings have not been Stella,
In recent matches and even the amazon doc you see Harry looking at his fellow players bemused that they don’t get it. He cannot see why he is progressing as a player under Poch and Jose and other are/have not.
This latest 5 year plan is not working and it feels the club is imploding slowly in front of everyone’s eyes.
Harry just wants progression for him and the side he plays in, that’s all and very simple.
Unfortunately Levy is the person that can make that happen.
What is the grand plan, can the league be won in that time and how?
If these can be shown to Harry, there could be a good chance he stays as it would suit his individual playing objectives/records to achieve.
It’s over to Levy to show him because there isn’t a shiny new stadium or training facility that can be thrown into the mix.
This reminds me of a story told by the great Burnley and Northern Ireland International player Jimmy McIlroy.
On the morning of the 1962 FA Cup Final which Burnley lost 1-3 to Spurs he was approached by the manager of Sampdoria who asked him to sign for the Italian club.
He promised McIlroy a villa overlooking the Mediterranean, an International school for his children and a lot more money than Burnley could pay him.
After the game Jimmy tells all this to his wife who says, ” But why would anyone want to leave Burnley?”.