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Big Name Reporters Highlight Vital And Perhaps Under Discussed Elements Surrounding Poch’s Potential Return To Tottenham

By The Boy -

The last week has been a turbulent one for Spurs. A rumour started by The Sun was turned into a big old thing as The Athletic who, with their huge subscription reach was able to catapult the suggestion to perhaps a more diverse modern footballing audience, than perhaps the ‘soaraway’ tabloid might be able to. Fan demographics and their behaviour online are frequently enlightening beasts up close.

The Times believe as regular readers will know, just I have previously suggested, that Harry Kane is wouldn’t be swayed by the arrival of a coach that had essentially previously wasted his time and failed to win silverware. We all know that Harry wants pots and pans. The England Captain has made no secret of that fact. Winning trophies are (for the zillionth of telling) the defining metric of professional sport.

Harry Kane admires Mauricio Pochettino as a manager, but The Times understands that his return to Tottenham Hotspur would not tempt the striker to change his mind about leaving the club.

Tom Roddy and Gary Jacob

More distressing still is that Pitt-Brooke’s version of The Sun’s piece contained this quote.

But although Pochettino has enjoyed the chance to work at an elite club, he has found his role in Paris to be less powerful than the one that he held at Spurs in five and a half years working with Levy.

Jack Pitt-Brooke

For those of us who actually know the club and understand the club, this evaluation is a struggle to make sense of. Wasn’t it Poch that said his job title needed to be adjusted?

Disinformation needs to be stamped out. Are YOU up to the task?

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Nikhil
Nikhil
2 years ago
Reply to  Finn

Another interesting piece of cognitive dissonance is the fact that people will proclaim that Jose would have won something had he been allowed to build a team in his image, and will criticise Poch even though he never got to build a team in his image either.
You look at all the big money players we got in, out of all of those, only Wanyama and Alderweireld seem to be his choices. You could make an argument about Moura, but I really don’t seen anyone else being his choice. The core of the squad he inherited. Compare that to Liverpool, had Poch recieved the same investment as Klopp we’d probably had won a league title by now.

Paddio
Paddio
2 years ago
Reply to  Baleficent

idealy yes, but how has our second striker recruitment gone?

Paul
Paul
2 years ago

Just remember in 3 finals Kane has not hit any of the keeps in the gloves as yet.

Paulspurs
Paulspurs
2 years ago

You are 100percent correct in what u are saying poch turned Kyle Walker into a good footballer with his desire . He was never properly backed by levy . We can bring in 2 or 3 different managers and just keep drifting along or else bring in a manager whom levy knows he shafted and won’t do again and give him the time and tools to turn us into winner’s

Finn
Finn
2 years ago

Without advocating (or not) for any new manager, I have a question to ask. Would Poch have won anything with proper backing and investment in the squad in the 2 wilderness years of no transfers?

The reason I ask is that there appears to be a logic disconnect in the rationales for Poch and Jose. Poch is portrayed as someone who could not win trophies; Jose as someone who could win trophies but was denied the means to.

Now is it not reasonable to equally say that Poch was also denied the means? So if both/either manager had been “backed” and allowed to invest/refresh/develop their squad would they have won trophies at THFC?

Jose has the track record to answer that as a likely “yes”, but is Poch not having a track record, assumed to be a no? Bear in mind the spending power underlying Jose’s achievements (and I’m not saying that was not all it was or diminishing Joses’s achievements).

But is it reasonable to think that had Poch been allowed to bring in a couple of decent players and offload some deadwood each window (or at least each season), he’d have had the necessary boost to cross the winning line?

I pose these questions because I see a lot of switch-baiting: “we are not successful because Levy did not back his managers“, but Poch’s lack of success is also being questioned as being down to him not being a winner? This pervades to PSG now because he narrowly lost the league after only coming on board in January – he did win two domestic trophies, but hey, let’s not spoil the narrative.

If Levy is to blame for Hamstringing his managers (which I believe he has done), then Levy is to blame. Neither manager won anything at THFC but in other circumstances both could have.

I just find it hard to watch people assigning blame to one person with their one hand and then assign culpability to another with their other. If Jose’s failure has done anything it should be to vindicate Poch’s failure……..!

Leaving aside the inconsistency of measuring one manager’s success or failure in pounds and the other in kilograms, we need to remember that the scales belong to Levy and ENIC and that their thumb is never far away.

Paul
Paul
2 years ago
Reply to  East Stand

You do realized these are hear say otherwise call rumour. Why is it that Liverpool and Mancity sign players they want while all the other clubs fiddling around fending off rumours.

StuSpur
StuSpur
2 years ago

In a way I’m a lot more concerned about the personnel in our squad lingering around than I am about who the new manager is.
It is going to be really hard shifting the 5-6 players that stunk out the place under poch and in fact we’ve added to that list during Jose’s time.

Over at arsenal I suppose at least Arteta was allowed to have a clear out which is why many of my arsenal friends are keeping faith (if only minimal) because they see that as progress.

A new manager needs a fresh canvas and can’t be expected to fine tune these turds that let down to 2 managers, it simply won’t happen.
Is Levy going to cut his loses and send these players off on the cheap? History tells us he won’t. He’ll expect good money fit winks, dier etc. This players will know they are unwanted and the discontent will be there waiting for the new manager next season.

Baleficent
Baleficent
2 years ago
Reply to  East Stand

Conte would be great without ENIC but so would every candidate.

Baleficent
Baleficent
2 years ago
Reply to  Paddio

I hope we all remember this post. Someone might do well coming in but we should be building around the worlds best CF. Get rid of the cr**

East Stand
East Stand
2 years ago
Reply to  Baleficent

I’m doubtful, I don’t believe Poch has forgiven Levy for not backing him.

I reckon it might be Conte and the director of football from Juventus and Kane to be sold. It’ll be Baldini all over again, although with a proven winner in Conte rather than AVB.. Just a hunch, going on the rumours flying about.

Baleficent
Baleficent
2 years ago

Until he deni3s this, Poch is looking more and more like the slut that took Spurs fans out but was getting paid by the pimp. He comes back to work with Levy, he should be ashamed

Baleficent
Baleficent
2 years ago
Reply to  East Stand

Poch, whom I adored, is a career bullsh***** if he condiders a return under Levy.

East Stand
East Stand
2 years ago

We’ve seen how ruthless PSG can be, they sacked Tuchel and he goes on to win the Champion’s League straight away. Tuchel is obviously more than competent, so it Poch but that does not guarantee job security in Paris it seems.

Poch might be flashing his underwear Levy’s way to gain some kind of leverage with PSG, or he might generally feel that a three or four year deal much more on his own terms might be a better way to plan the next few years of his career rather than try to balance on the PSG tightrope? There is also talk of he and Leonardo not getting on that famously, and he has a lot of power there.

East Stand
East Stand
2 years ago

Levy would not ask Kane if who the next manager will be might influence him to stay? Or does Levy read tabloids to gauge the situation?

This is like the whole ‘contact made’ with Poch (if there’s been any), it would start with a friendly text or WhatsApp between those involved. Therefore if anything is being done here then you suspect Levy will have known of Poch’s position from the off.. 🤔

John
John
2 years ago
Reply to  Ian

Because they know they’re getting paid whether they make the effort or not. Now would be a good time to cap wages & get bonuses if they’re picked it’s a minefield but it can be done if the rulers want it done.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago

Yet they scab their way through….typical

Ian
Ian
2 years ago
Reply to  John

why do these so called professionals who are on silly money just stop playing !

John
John
2 years ago
Reply to  Stewart Smith

To those people: think about why he got the sack. We were beyond poor, the team had stopped playing for him & he’d run out of ideas. However, I firmly believe that things would have been different if he’d been allowed to buy/sell players a before & certainly after the CL farce.

Stewart Smith
Stewart Smith
2 years ago

& on that song lyric theme, think a lot of us could say….”I was thinking to myself, this could be heaven or this could be hell”

Stewart Smith
Stewart Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  John

Sadly there are seemingly too many sentimentalists that think it’s a good idea??

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
2 years ago

Well, we don’t have to worry about the Germans winning anything for a long time. Watching their under 21’s….they are abject.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
2 years ago
Reply to  Paddio

Certainly be less room for a lot of players to hide,with Kane gone. They might surprise us and step up their games.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
2 years ago

Pep coming to Spurs wouldn’t change Harry’s mind. To misquote The Eagles ‘Hotel California’, Harry has already checked out mentally, he just hasn’t left yet

Last edited 2 years ago by James McKevitt.
John
John
2 years ago

So boring now but Levy is too blind to see what damage he’s done/doing to our club. Surely for 8 million a year the idiot can realise that the buck stops with him. If he really thinks, if it’s true, that bringing Poch back will appease the fans, he’s more stupid than we think.

Paddio
Paddio
2 years ago

Kane needs to go. For himself but also for the club. We could have 2 really good strikers rather than one worldie striker. Net goals probably would be more plus we’d still have cash for further recruitment with some Kane transfer money.

Matt
Matt
2 years ago

Me? Nah, can’t be arsed with any of it anymore. We’re f*cked.

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