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You Can Scream And Shout About Mourinho All You Want, Spurs Are Still Carrying Too Many Duff Players – opinion
By Harry Hotspur -

The anti-Mourinho meltdown never needs much prompting, the grumbles online usually start after about 20-minutes if we’re not winning. Ironically, one senses there’s a correlation between the fans dissatisfied with José, and those that felt reinstalling Christian Eriksen was a sound idea. The parameters of imagination involved are invariably narrow to the point of negligible. Last week some fans fancied installing Brendan Rodgers at the helm.

Last night, one individual thought that the Southampton coach’s name was worth throwing into the mix. Personally, I’d prefer Zippy or Bungle from Rainbow to be given a chance. Or what about the guy in the bear suit, Geoffrey, was it?

The cold truth of it is that the Spurs squad is still undermined by players who are complete failures from past regimes. Dear me, Erik Lamela has been bumbling about the place for 8-years. Eric Dier (we will discuss another mind-bogglingly bad performance later on) is a colossal failure. The now 27-year-old’s career has also slipped past him without honours. Harry Winks’ is 25-years-old in a few days. Another player that would be unlikely to cause a stampede if Spurs were to offer him for sale. Dele Alli’s crowning glory may well yet be that the only coach to court him in a transfer market is Pochettino. You couldn’t make it up.

And then we have all the more recently accrued junk that show no signs of precipitating meaningful change. Carlos Vinicius is a name some fans are still struggling to understand the logic of having if he can’t get a go when Harry Kane is injured. Penny dropped yet? He’s not good enough. Not a guess, an observation based upon the fact Mourinho doesn’t play him unless it’s against pub sides. I didn’t mention Gedson Fernandes. There you go, that’s that attended to.

Matt Doherty was a pretty imperious player at Wolves, his time at Spurs has been utterly disappointing. Davinson Sanchez began his time with us brightly and has become a bungle waiting to happen. It’s worth sparing a mention here for Ledley King. A source close to the club told me at the time it was a political appointment and I guess we are really reaping the benefits of that decision now.

Elsewhere, we have an ageing Toby Alderweireld who simply cannot manage to play every game any more – the same can be said about Gareth Bale. The expensive fairytale that turned out Grimm.

This squad has pockets of hope, players that could start a rejuvenation, but they are battling against the odds. Mauricio Pochettino was pulled from a burned out car and some fans it seems, appear to believe that from the ashes, class players might be pulled. To those fans I have 4 words. You. Are. Kidding. Me.

Mourinho doesn’t need time, in so much that Portuguese could spend the rest of his days coaching Winks and still get nowhere. What José needs are transfer funds and his problem is the debt that we’re shackled to forever thanks to the ENIC business model – which included everything a boy could wish for – except pandemic insurance that Wimbledon took out.

If you don’t like Mourinho, that’s fine, I’m not selling him. I’m selling reason.

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Simon Dweck
Simon Dweck
1 month ago

Don’t disagree with some of what you say about Lamela, Winks, Dier in particular but Vinicius and Doherty were Mourinho picks and Fernandez he thought he could mould. He isn’t even responsible for Ndombele improvement.He hasn’t and in fact like Dele, Sanchez and others he has succeeded in eroding any confidence that they may have had. Just like he did with Luke Shaw. Complaining that he does not have funds to replace them properly isn’t an argument that works, it’s our reality. So if he can’t work with what he has got then clearly he isn’t the right coach. Which is why Hassenhuttl and Rogers names have been mentioned because they both take what they have and get them performing better. Which is what Poch did season after season. Now he has gone we can assess the true impact and achievement he had on the club. I seriously doubt Mourinho would get that squad to the CL final or constantly top 4.

Golden Oriel
Golden Oriel
1 month ago

whether nobodies like you and I like Dier or not, the manager you like
thinks highly of him.

jose
jose
1 month ago

Fenway sold before they bought. They follow a similar business model to ENIC.
Fenway were lucky that there were takers for their players at ridiculous prices.
They sold quite a lot of players (some average) for big money – Coutinho(140+), Sterling(60+), 20+ – Ings, Benteke, Sakho, Brewster, Solanke and others between 10 and 20 mill. Around 400 mill in sales during Klopp’s years.

at large
at large
1 month ago

Too early to throw Jose under his bus just yet. We’re still alive in 4 competitions after taking over a team languishing last year mid-table. It took Klopp a couple of years to turn Liverpool around, and they clearly had more talent to start with than here. I view this crazy year as a transition period – try to nick a trophy, but more importantly instill some fundamentals and evaluate who to keep and who to bin. Jose is not an idiot (he keeps telling us this, that’s how I know). He would love to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Liverpool but does not have enough skill players that can move the ball quickly, one-touch, while still maintaining defensive shape. So, he’s adopted tactics to accommodate this. It’s ugly, but still early, and I was told once that it’s better to go ugly early.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  at large

Klopp was backed though and the money he was given by Fenway is the sort of money no Tottenham manager will get under ENIC.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Why not (now that we’ll be earning it) or do you think ENIC are nicking it all? You’re so out of touch. Compare klopps first full season to Jose’s

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Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Tottenham doesn’t need ENIC money now. What has ENIC got to do with THFC money that according to you no manager will get? So ENIC will be taking THFC money? You ain’t got s clue have ya. You can’t see clearly through the hate. Also too much rubbish has been put through your head. “Parasites? Clueless

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Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Pennywise, but pound foolish.

at large
at large
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Klopp is surely backed more via payroll but the net spend zero swap of Coutinho for Allison and VanDijk has been the key to their success. Idk if/when Spurs will ever spend like a legitimate big club but until ENIC does all this stuff is just howling at the moon.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  at large

Spurs will never spend like a legitimate big club until ENIC does what? What the fck has ENIC got to do with how THFC spend their own money? Clueless. ENIC FC” never heard anything so stupid.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Anchor Tennant’s? Nonsense

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Core Tennant? We are the landlord. We rent out

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Tottenham borrowed the money to pay for the stadium. It’s our stadium. All that chunk of land from park lane to Northumberland park is owned by tottenham. Than includes the grade 2 listed percy house. The listed dial house too. All owned by tottenham

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

So ‘if’ it all goes wrong then its THFC that crumbles. Enic cut and run. This is what disgusts me. And Mr Lewis in Barbados could afford to build that stadium. He’s minted, yet we lead the way with over a billion debt

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

They didn’t spend loads though, nothing like city or united.. They were clever they used the Coutinho money and others and targeted the right players needed.. We wasted the Bale money and bought loads of dross.. If Botch didn’t have a say on the 27 players he signed and the 40 odd he sold then I call bullshit. He certainly had his say on Townsend.. Add up all the dross and we could have signed some real quality, like Liverpool did.

Stephen Bourne
Stephen Bourne
1 month ago

sadly about right. personally although he was really poor last night i still think Dies is ok and why Mourinho didint play Toby i dont know.
as for Dochrty- well! dont get me started! better play with 10 men! there is nothing of the spark he had playing for Wolves and to play him left back!! Again dont get me started!!
Vinicious Gedson and Docherty are all second rate. and as you say Bale is Grimm. not sure he even wants to play anymore. Perhaps the money has actually made him realise he doesn’t need to knock his pipes out anymore. Very sad.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  Stephen Bourne

The Toby situation is worrying.. Dier can head and tackle pretty good. But he can’t run or play football very well. He needs to improve everything including maintaining focus… Vini has to play now Kane is injured. We bought a striker in, now is the time to give him a chance I believe.

Jakob Vestergaard
Jakob Vestergaard
1 month ago

Maybe you are right that the team is not as great as one could wish. The question is, does Mourinho get the best out of them? I suspect not. Many of them seem lower in confidence than for long. Two of the greatest attacking players in the world get next to no service from behind. Few Teams register as few shots on goal as Spurs. Watching them play as a Burnley team is depressing. Sack Mourinho, as soon as possible. Start building something positive.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

A question popped into me head and I’m genuinely struggling. What’s more competitive a comp? The Audi cup we won, or this year’s league cup? It’s a teaser. Really. Pre season yes, but look at the teams we played nonetheless….vexes me.

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
1 month ago

The Texaco Cup was the one to go for. Failing that the Watney Cup had its moments. The Motherwell defeat still sticks in my craw.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago

Pre season cups don’t count these are more like training matches with noone going 100 per cent and team sheets experimental to say the least. Teams play fringe players and everyone takes it easy, no injuries, because the start of the season is around the corner… So the League cup is much harder to win than the audi cup… This shouldn’t vex you my man it’s basics.

Billytheyid
Billytheyid
1 month ago

Well anyone who can explain playing a left back at centre half to accommodate a right back at left back with your best centre half on the bench is doing well. The art of war. Attack where your enemy is weak. Henderson ain’t even a midfielder let alone defender yet where was the idea to attack him and his partner? Their 2 full backs are great going forward but if they have a weakness its defending. We have the best partnership arguably in world football up front yet they spend their days defending. And as for the dead wood, that’s been ongoing and will remain so while that nugget at the top demands 30m for players that wouldn’t get a game at southend. Theres always a bottom line and it’s this. Every club hes at ends up with a dressing room in turmoil. Thats a fact. Why anyone thought this would end differently is beyond me. Personally id get his p45 to him asap, but once again its hiding the real problem. I used to come on here and say whats the point of the fanciest garage in the world with a mini metro housed in it. I’d go as far as to say tricycle now. Its garbage and anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain deluded

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  Billytheyid

Yes, the commentators last night sussed it – Ndombele is the form player, you have to make sure he’s playing up the field as close to Son and Kane as feasible.

Jose instead went for the opposite approach and gave him a mountain of work to do in the middle of the park and worse, dropping back to defend.

Not good but I sort of get what Jose was trying. To be fair, it nearly worked, we could have scored first and did look tidy for the first 15.

Our mentality stinks because after the goal decision something switched.

Dave
Dave
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Shame the game isn’t played for only 15 minutes

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave

More a shame we have one setback and we crumble mentally

eddie
eddie
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Our two in midfield were overrun by Milner,Thiago and Wijnaldun.Even though Winks was brought on at half time,he was the wrong choice as Sissoko would have been a more physical presence.
These were Mourinho’s choices for the game.In fact N’Dom faded badly in the second half.The fact is our bench is not good enough and neither was the starting eleven.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Billytheyid

Yes, a good metaphor a Swanky garage with a kit car up on blocks you still haven’t bough the wheels for. Nobody has any idea when the wheels will be bought either…

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
1 month ago

Never had any Gripe with getting Jose. But if he is not getting the players that he wants then it’s all pointless, just a Cheaper get out clause for Levy.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Limerick AL

I think we are finding that’s what it was from Levy’s perspective. Less a new dawn, but more a patch up and make do, rather than give the management what they need to implement their methods. The Amazon thing had a lot to do with it as well.

So here we are, and everybody apart from Levy is left scratching their heads as to what happens next. Jose doesn’t get power to do much, at a club where the chairman is obsessed with the Continental model of transfers by committee and interchangeable management etc.

Most clubs are run like this now and I’m sure Jose will have been made aware of all this before he took the job. In he came saying how brilliant the squad and players were. Given all of that, how much of a position is he now in to demand lots of transfer activity? He doesn’t expect much i’m sure.

I’m also sure that Levy will be expecting a top 4 position. He will feel that his investment in hiring this manager and his staff should be enough to achieve that. Rightly or wrongly…

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

More levy hate nonsense. Levy has done pretty well at the new lane (during this c19 ting especially) You’ve got too much hate for the man to realise it.

Billytheyid
Billytheyid
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

See some things don’t change

eddie
eddie
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Yes Mourinho would have been aware of the constraints upon him,but 15M/year is a very persuasive argument to not bitch too much about those restrictions.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  eddie

José s too rich to care about money. He knows his worth though

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  eddie

Don’t forget the 2m top 4 bonus as well.

I just don’t see the leopard changing it’s spots or much changing, even when the stadium is well attended for every game.

People talk about 10 years to deal with the debt and get ourselves where some predict we will be but the idea just isn’t that original that will be about 35 years under ENIC! Other clubs are building and have built new stadiums with similar capacity, the only difference with us is that we have the NFL. I have np idea what significant difference that revenue will make, I haven’t even mentioned the debt.

The stadium is awesome but I’m not sure about the seismic changes that it makes to the football budget, certainly not in the short to medium term.

The summer window demonstrates this.

Holberg was an absolute steal for 15m. Doherty thankfully didn’t cost any more than 15m, then you’ve got loans and Reggie which seems more of a long term lease than a short term loan. Hardly the kind of spending to think things are changing anytime soon. Covid or no Covid.

Let’s see, when we all come out of this global crisis we will find out how we do things compared to others…

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

You just talk for the sake of it don’t ya. You ain’t got a clue. The thing is you don’t want to see. You just wanna hate José&levy. How long have we been in the new place. Cha you’re just ignorant. Come around certain people with your rubbish talk you’d get run. “Let’s see how things go compared to others? Others ain’t doing what we’re doing and others ain’t in London. “The summer window (during a pandemic) demonstrates what? Cha

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East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  eddie

A bit like Levy’s gagging order on Paul Mitchell after he left!

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

My order of priority for shifting, based on current form and (lack of) potential for improvement would be:

  1. Rose (has he permanently moved? I can’t be bothered to check – if not then shift now)
  2. Gedson (same as above)
  3. Moura (hasn’t played well for over 12 months, he’s gone baby gone)
  4. Alli (he should be top but Moura has just been so very awful, and Alli has time to change, I just don’t think he will)
  5. Sanchez (with Rodon in we need to make some room for an experienced defender coming in)
  6. Winks (if he stays then Skipp is surplus? Move him on then)
  7. Sissy (he’s a warrior etc but he’s past it really and he’s taking up a precious midfield berth)
  8. Vinny (he has time, but if he shows nothing the next few months he’s a loan signing right? We can’t find a better option in the summer than a failed loan move that showed the smallest modicum of potential?)
  9. Bale (same as with Vinny to some extent, is he really the best option for the money?)
  10. Lamela (the Alan Sugar “with regret…you’re fired” one – I like the player, can be useful, a fighter, but what has he really achieved for this side? Not enough)
  11. One of Doherty and Aurier, I guess Aurier as he seems less settled and has had longer to prove himself. Doherty has been so poor though, but it’s only been half a season)

Ones that I personally would keep some faith with are Davies (just an ok utility squaddie), Dier (one more season to try and improve as Jose really wants him to improve/succeed), Toby (squeeze one last season out as an experienced head to keep helping the young ‘uns), Hart (whatever, but we need another keeper too), Lo Celso (he’s patchy from-wise but deserves a last chance…but it is a last chance now)

The rest are safe as houses – or, the horror, our best players might try and force a move if things go sour.

James McKevitt
James McKevitt
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Can’t disagree with you, my thoughts exactly. I wonder what’s going through Harry’s mind after a sh🧻t show like last night.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  James McKevitt

Nuthin good!

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
1 month ago

Great Article. Groundhog Day at THFC.

Elevenstonedidiots
Elevenstonedidiots
1 month ago

The new stadium is going to provide us with riches beyond our wildest dreams. The generations of debt is just a anti-Levy conspiracy theorists who don’t understand football or balance sheets. There will be money and transfers followed by trophies as Daniels 20 year master plan comes to fruition. You just need to be patient, give it time.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

And you KNOoooooW that if the team manages to win the League cup that’s going to be used as proof of the wonderous future ENIC had in store. Ready for that. A buy, FLampard on penno’s, Stoke and Brenford VAR assisted. Quite a run.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Oh shush. Old lane boy.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

SUPER TOTTENHAM FROM THE LANE!

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Can remember you moaning when the boys were singing 🎼 we’re the paaaaark lane tot ten ham. Like park lane had been moved. “Why they singing that for?

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Those who know know. Everyting bles$

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Some too stupid to get it, some don’t wanna get it. They just wanna hate on Joe& Daniel coz they think they’ve been stealing our money to buy land ect for ENIC. Hate our new money making home yet they want top players on top money. They wish we were back at the old lane

Paul Donovan
Paul Donovan
1 month ago

once on MOTD every1 was praising Phil Jagielkas performances & how he was man of the match. Lineker said great last ditch tackles. He may have been getting a team mate out of the crap sometimes but Alan Hansen said he shouldnt make ladt ditch tackles. He should start in the right position. Harsh but true. This is the yardstick. Boot room teachings. I want to see Spurs flowing football but want a tight ship with it. Arsenal did it. Maybe its worth taking on an old Liverpool player as a coach & learn how they won over & over

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  Paul Donovan

Good point, I think Alan Hansen is unemployed if you can get him off the golf course. It doesn’t appear to me that our current defensive coach, Ledley, is doing a good job.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Ledley was such a good footballer that even if he made an error he could just nick the ball back…

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Decent table tennis player too.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

The defence certainly needs sorting out, that seems to be where the most issues seem to be right now. However, midfield and attack looks to be fairly well staffed at the moment, although another option in central midfield wouldn’t go amiss.

There also needs to be a degree of responsibility shouldered by the coaches when it comes to individual or collective errors. Particularly if they keep happening and it’s the main reason why the team is being undermined. That’s what coaches have to do, if these are basic errors.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago

It doesn’t matter who the manager is, his hands will be tied by Levy’s insistence in meddling in the transfer market. We need a root and branch reform as to how we recruit, scout and analyse prospective new players. This is what Fenway Sports did at Liverpool. They also made the decision to achieve success on the pitch before increasing Anfield’s capacity. Enic have no interest in providing the fans what they want. They are only interested in the bottom line. Levy is under the illusion that he is some sort of expert in the transfer market. His record demonstrates that is this palpably untrue.
If any supporter thinks that not strengthening for two windows, whomsoever the manager was, did not weaken us dangerously is deluded. Every club strengthens in the transfer market, particularly those with serious title ambitions. In fact, Levy promised the supporters that the new stadium would not affect our recruitment policy which was a total lie.
It will continue to be Groundhog Day at Spurs until there are seismic changes at the top.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

I know it’s ridiculous. Levy still gets talked up in the media as the master hard baller negotiator….it’s the opposite, he’s alienated more chairman and scuppered deals by the barrel load with his nonsense. Just painfull watching it.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

So what if he has. They’ll need our players as much as we’ll need theirs in the future. Fck dem clubs. Scuppered deals? Levy know when to stop bidding which ain’t easy? You obviously don’t know how auctions work. I’m glad clubs know that my club won’t be bent over. Listen our money is as good as anybodys in this ting. Fck dem little clubs. I like how my chairman operates. Go in low Daniel and take it from their. Just because we have money now it doesn’t mean we’ll be mugged off

Rustynuts
Rustynuts
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

My Barber is a villa fan, and he’s still grateful that Levy f***ed up trying to play hardball, when spurs should have signed Grealish.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Rustynuts

Yep missed out on him. I can remember at the time most spurs fans were saying levy was shopping in the bargain basement and didn’t rate him

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Oh give it a rest will ya. Who gives a fck what Liverpool did. ENIC have no Interest in providing the fans what they want? How do you know? ENIC are interested in making money (it’s what investment companies do) success on the pitch will make us more valuable for when they sell a(so will a squad full of quality players which is what we’ll be working on next. “Only interested in the bottom line? Which is fatting up their investment (obviously) We never strengthened coz we were building a stadium to make sure we can always strengthen in the future (what’s so hard in that to understand? (Weaken us dangerously? The new stadium did not affect our recruitment policy (money was there to spend) you ain’t got a clue what’s going on at tottenham. All you do is read second hand information to hate on levy. Moving into the new stadium is the best thing that could’ve happened to us. We were being left behind. Changes at the top? Careful what you wish for.

Paddio
Paddio
1 month ago

We’ve got what we’ve got. Jose sees this as a project/evolution which means cups are the aim this season. We need a few more summer transfer windows to sort the squad to be league contenders hence just win the next match and see where we finish mantras.
With playing style, we play to win with the players we have. Pep couldn’t do it in his first season a city and spent big. You can only use the talent you have. But we need to pick up trophies on route to hopefully win the league and CL in a few years.

James McKevitt
James McKevitt
1 month ago

We need as fans to stop defending players like Lamela and others because we think he has a great attitude he’s a real trier, he gives it everything and other rubbish like that.

Ask yourself would Lamela, Davies, Sanchez, Dier, Aurier, Doherty, Sanchez, Lucas Moura, Bergwign, Joe Hart, and Bale on present form make the Manchester City or Liverpool first team.

If they wouldn’t what are they doing in the Tottenham first team?

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Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  James McKevitt

Lamela can play. It’s just that he’s fragile. Young bergy can play and will get better. Power serge is a good squad player. Hart was a great signing (not as a keeper). Davies Sanchez dier Doherty all rubbish. Lucas good squad player too.

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Lamela has been a Wage Thief. No other Club wants him so he will stay on the Gravy Wagon.

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
1 month ago
Reply to  James McKevitt

Davies is Captain for Spurs Pub Games! That sums up our position as a FC.

BARD
BARD
1 month ago

I’m 54 this year. Over 45 years with little end result from this club other than the odd cup and some nice football at times. And we’re still miles away. For a club our size it’s ridiculous. It’s almost like we’re jinxed.

Paul Donovan
Paul Donovan
1 month ago
Reply to  BARD

Sounds word for word like i say. No title in 60 years & only 2. Nothing but 2 league cups for 30. FFS. Best spell in early 80s , but even then we didnt buy a centre back & crunching midfielder to get the title. Oh sorry it was Liverpools property. Ask Cloughie & Ron Saunders. Sorry its been so long they are no longer with us

James McKevitt
James McKevitt
1 month ago
Reply to  Paul Donovan

Cup team Spurs, now we can’t even claim that honour.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  James McKevitt

We’re in a final now though.

Billytheyid
Billytheyid
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

And I fear for what may happen there as they have certainly woken up now

BARD
BARD
1 month ago
Reply to  Paul Donovan

I can’t help emotionally investing but slowly but surely I’m giving up. This club will always underachieve until a proper owner takes it on.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  BARD

Proper owner? Because ENIC don’t invest in the business does that make them bad owners? Tottenham have to make our own money. We’re now in a position to.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  BARD

Gonna blame levy for all those 45 years?

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

Ill never get over the fact Levy didn’t buy for TWO windows. Unprecedented madness. 😵😵😵

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

Madness for anyone else but expected for Levy, he behaves like he’s one step ahead of all the accepted norms of running a top football club…

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Yeah , I’m not sure he knows it is a football club.

BARD
BARD
1 month ago

He’s a cancer and we need him removed. A sick ailing club.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

I don’t think he cares to be honest…

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Poch chose not to buy not levy. Dumb poch reckoned the £30 odd million offered wasn’t enough to improve on what we already had. Mug.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Wrong again. Poch specifically said they needed “some fresh blood” over that period. Hamstrung like the rest. Poch played the Levy game so isn’t blameless but there’s only one real problem at N17. ENIC.

Last edited 1 month ago by Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

Beggining to think we have a paid troll here. 😶

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Nope. Just someone who knows what’s going on. You the sheep just jump on crap you read

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

How anyone can have zero criticism of ENIC’s time with Spurs is beyond me. One League Cup in 20 years?

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Gonna bang on about the past forever or you gonna look to the next 20 years for joy like most fans? The past is exactly where it is

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Botch couldnt even win that! After spending 492,000,000 million 🤦‍♀️

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago

I have wondered this about you over the years. You don’t even know what pre season is all about! Did you celebrate the Audi cup like we won the CL? Or did you just sit at home all confused and vexed? 😳

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Poch too dumb to hustle

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Yep his best players he inherited.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Why is ENIC the problem? Coz as owners they didn’t invest in players? Did they say they would and did they have to? I was just glad they bought sugar out and levy sacked raincoat man. ENIC haven’t put money in or taken money out. Before they came we were rubbish and broke. Now we are better and rich. I have no problems with them. Joe doesn’t want to spend his money on this business. That’s his perrogitive

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago

On the 6th year mark Botch said that! Before he was berry appy and was telling us how difficult it was to get a guy that can improve such a great squad! He spent 492,000,000 at Spurs and Saints.. His best players were already at their respective clubs… Just shy of half a billion pounds expenditure suggests he was backed (until the end)

Paul Donovan
Paul Donovan
1 month ago

Ive said on another article. We have 4 good players. 2 that were class but old. Rest are deadwood. If Liverpool in 80s went a goal up , game over. Because they had great defenders ( clown keeper mind) & Souness etc had big mental strength in midfield. Who would oppose him & say you aint bossing it. Mourinhos sitting back wont work with crap defenders & 1-0 is always a slender lead. Spurs need better defenders & mental strength.& to attack Yes we crap it with Liverpool. I hope im wrong but United have wanted return match since the 1-6 & will turn us over 3-0. We already have that in back of our minds. We have no John Terry type etc. Until then he is hampered

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

It’s like some of us have said before….ad infinitum….it don’t matter who comes in, have anyone you want, nobody will succeed with the parasites running the gaff.
Jose is marketable, but without Kane on the pitch Spurs commercial interest drops big time. It was funny after Kane was crocked if by magic the champions appeared like the shop keeper in Mr Ben. The 1st half of the season suggested all was going in favour of Jose, but didn’t see last night coming. Should have smelled a rat when the team came out. Watching the highlights , Son was in no reality offside in any way, utterly unbelievable, and Hugo Lloris, who is and has been suspect for some time(WC final? Etc) Palmed the ball right to the player. As an outsider looking in you can only guess what’s occuring but it all looked dodgey as per. I thought 3 wins out of 4 sets up the match v City, that game will still be defining I reckon. As for Jose, well hes been chucked a chance for a league cup if nothing else to keep the wolf from Daniels door. Although a buy, Chelsea indoors on pens, Stoke and VAR assisted Brentfords hardly amounts to a competition. Take what you can.

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Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Parisites? What have these parasites taken from the club? Stop chatting rubbish and go get your facts right. From the moment levy realised we couldn’t complete at the old lane and put the wheels In motion to build our wonderful cash cow stadium I knew money for transfers would be limited. Most people who knew what was going on knew the same. Cha. I rate the way Daniel kept us in Europe most of the time while doing so. Anyone who thinks Tottenhams money has been taken out of the club for other ENIC projects is STUPID
“Chucked a chance for a league cup? If you say so

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Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Daniel kept us in Europe. Hahahaha solid Gold. Poch worked miracles with no help. Harry before him otherwise our Danny would’ve been strung up on the high Rd by now. Bottom of the table, 2 points when he rushed to Harry to save him….and save him he did, Top 4, QF’s of CL, in the title race….needed help for the push and what does Levy do? ? ?

Nelson and Saha. Then sacked him for not taking the England job. Hahaha. You HAVE to be on the payrole.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Erm he did keep us in Europe for half his time here. Poch worked miracles did he? How? Poch had the best facilities in the world to work in and still won nothing with a billion pound team. Arry had a very decent bunch to work with and did very well. (Levy wasn’t expecting that) stadium wheels were already in motion so no money for transfer (Levy’s stubborn) yep he sacked him and brought in &8.5 million a year yes man and used him to keep us in Europe to bring the money in (for the stadium) brilliant. You just don’t get it. Levy used your boy poch. Paid him handsomely though. Poch knew there would be little money to spend.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Without Kane I wonder if Botch would have got us into Europe at all… Also at Saints and Spurs he spent just shy of 500 million… And won nothing at both clubs… £492,000,000 and Kane in his ranks and he couldn’t win jack shit… People need to understand what the word miracle means 🤦‍♀️

CzechSpur
CzechSpur
1 month ago

Jose must take his share of the criticism because the starting lineup was tragic (Doherty as a LWB? The guy struggles even as a RB…), we were overrun in midfield and struggled defensively – maybe more than I’ve seen us struggle this season. But newsflash: many of the players aren’t good enough. There are too many players you can’t trust. Sure, they might put in a decent performance now and then, but overall, they are not good enough.

Sanchez and Aurier are untrustworthy to the point other defenders and DMs have to babysit them. Dier and Davies are sometimes fine but other times seem like they’ve never been coached as defenders before (see Pool’s 1st goal). Doherty is a new signing and deserves time, but God, is he awful currently.

Alderweireld, Lamela and Bale can’t play often enough to make a difference. Moura and Bergwijn run about a bit and that’s it. Winks seemed like a decent CM…against the bottom team of the Championship. Sissoko works hard but is extremely limited. Vinicius is not trusted. Much like H, I almost forgot to mention Dele, Rose, and Gedson, which speaks volumes as to their importance this season.

We have a brilliant core with Kane, Son, PEH, Ndombele, Reguilon (and probably Lloris), but the others are not good enough and most of them might never be. The state of the squad inherited is NOT on Jose, and no other manager would find it easier to work with these players. I’m glad some posters aren’t in charge, we’d be in lower mid table with Rodgers or Hasenhuttl.

I too wish we could sell half the team and replace them with ready-to-go players, but this isn’t Football Manager. Not much ever happens in January windows, so we have to wait for the summer (i.e. not Jose’s fourth window, but second), and there will be SOME change. Not all poor players will leave, all of our problems might not be addressed, but we will be a lot closer again.

Give the man a FAIR chance.

James McKevitt
James McKevitt
1 month ago
Reply to  CzechSpur

Well said my thoughts, blame Levy not Jose.

CzechSpur
CzechSpur
1 month ago
Reply to  James McKevitt

It will take time, but if the last summer window is anything to go by, Jose will have been considering various viable targets, as well as who to get rid of to make room.

Sounds like more jam tomorrow, but this time, I really believe things can change.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  James McKevitt

Blame levy for what? Setting us up for the future?

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

What Future? You will see lots of empty seats at the new white Elephant. That’s the Future.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Limerick AL

Stop talking rubbish. I’ve never seen empty seats there apart from Europa League games. CL and pl sold out mainly. This is why we are expanding again. “What future? A much brighter one than if we were at the old place.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago

Absolutely nailed it here H. Jose haters will hate no matter the scoreline.

Defensive errors last night from players who just aren’t that good are what did for us. Too many fans get carried away with these players as being good. Bit like amateur golfers who hit a 300 yard drive once in the lifetime and think they’re good enough to get on the tour.

Decades of poor investment in the squad see us where we are and until fans look at the real reason, this reason they’ll continue to see the emperor’s new clothes. Blinded by boll*x.

Elevenstonedidiots
Elevenstonedidiots
1 month ago

No activity for 2 transfer windows and little or no funds have lead us to this point. Last nights match was a great leveller, we know where we are – a million miles from challenging for the big boy honours. The question is Levy going to give Jose the time and the resources needed to replenish the squad with the 8 or 9 players that are needed? Will Kane and Son hang around while Spurs get their shit together? I have my doubts. It’s all very well hanging Eric Dier and Harry Winks, but what are the alternatives, there is no money. We bought a 23 year old for €11 from Swansea for Christ sake. When LIverpool needed a centre halve they spent €75m on Virgil Van Dyke, City spent €63m on Dias and €40 on Ake. Liverpool had a midfielder last night who has won 2 CL’s and 9 league titles, that’s the standard. The gulf in class last night was palpable. Milner, Alcantara and Wijnaldum were far too streetwise for our lads. Man City have goals coming from all over the pitch without a recognised striker and without their talisman Kevin De Bryne. Spurs lose Harry Kane and all of a sudden its like watching the walking dead.
Winks, Doherty, Dier, Davies, Vinicius, Moura, Sanchez, Sissoko, Lamela, Bale, Ali wouldn’t get in the West Ham side. I imagine Jose’s brief is to win a trophy and get in the top 4 and this squad might just be good enough to scrape that. But compete for the Premier League? Forget about it, Spurs are long way off no matter who is at the helm and the sooner fans accept that the easier they will sleep at night.

BARD
BARD
1 month ago

Yep
Except for scraping top 4 which we won’t do.

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Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

No activity for two transfer windows coz we were building a new stadium (to make sure there will always be money for future transfer windows. Plus poch was too stupid to juggle the squad. “Million miles away from challenging the big boys? More rubbish.yes levy will give José the time and resources to bring a few in (we dont need 8) Kane and son ain’t going anywhere. “Long way off winning the premier League? Says who? You. Cha

BARD
BARD
1 month ago

The key is improving the back 4. If we don’t do that the crap will continue. We need a centre half and a RB urgently.

BARD
BARD
1 month ago
Reply to  BARD

If Jose thinks Dier Doherty and Aurier are good enough then we really will go nowhere.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  BARD

Power serge is good enough to be in the squad

Boredspur
Boredspur
1 month ago

Tired of the argument about having a bang average squad, isn’t it the manager’s job to get the best out of players?

We are currently behind Leicester and West Ham, are you suggesting their squads are full of world class players? We’ve drawn with Newcastle and Fulham, how about them?

These results are down to tactics, training and team selection and that sits with the manager

lihle
lihle
1 month ago
Reply to  Boredspur

Correct Sir!!

Spurs est_1882
Spurs est_1882
1 month ago
Reply to  Boredspur

Agreed!! I think HH has pinned his flag to the Jose post now and not ready to turn his back. Jose has had 3 windows…In that time he has not offloaded much dead wood, and has brought in only 1 player of real improvement. No more excuses to be had.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago
Reply to  Spurs est_1882

Name a club that banged down our doors for just one player ?

Spurs est_1882
Spurs est_1882
1 month ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

I will agree there. YOu cant just magic up a buyer…That said, you only have to look at our squad for 2 seconds to realise deep defence and counter attack does not suit who we have. All the players are recrutied for high press, so Jose should be coaching that, or an interim of that. Defending with this team is suicide.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Spurs est_1882

High press ain’t rocket science. We already know how to press high and hunt in packs. We don’t know how to defend properly, how to handle pressure without the ball and how to counter clinically. José is teaching them that now. Defending is a vital part of the game if you didn’t know. Even at broardwater farm FC we teach all the boys how to defend.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Spurs est_1882

What’s wrong with backing the manager? It’s what you keep saying levy should do. It’s better than getting behind the old loser manager.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago
Reply to  Boredspur

Jose isn’t responsible for defensive errors and poor goalkeeping. Dier, Davies and Rodon all made errors which resulted in their goals.

Spurs est_1882
Spurs est_1882
1 month ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Tactics invite pressure…

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago
Reply to  Spurs est_1882

The errors they made yesterday were, or are nothing to do with tactics. GK not coming for a ball, body shape for a ball played across goal, no player available for a second ball after the keeper parries a shot. Poor defending. Naff all to do with tactics.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Exactly. Cha these man ain’t got a clue. Dem jus a tark tark. They just hate José for whatever reason

Spurs est_1882
Spurs est_1882
1 month ago

Ahhhh….here we go. When he joined, the squad was “good” according to him. WE were led to believe he can make it happen. Now he just needs funds….No shock there, he spent £300m at united in 18months. Poch didnt get to spend that much in 5yrs. I am not selling Poch over Jose…my point is simple. Levy will not spend that sort of money, so the manager in situ needs to be building and coaching potential to good. Poch did it well, Jose will not. Yes, I agree there are far too manay passengers in this, but lets not forget, Jose oversaw some of those coming in, and chooses to play Dier.

For the record – CE returning is not what I want, I wanted him out last year. I can forgive lacking ability, will never forgive lacking effort.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Spurs est_1882

Poch got fck all on José. Did you expect him to say the squad wasnt good? The United money wasnt spent by him. You just hate José so I wouldn’t listen to you anyway

Spurs est_1882
Spurs est_1882
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Blah Blah Blah…im Tappa….blah blah blah is all I read.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Spurs est_1882

Explain the blah blah blahs

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Has poch got anything on José? Did José spend all that dough? Should he have come in and said the players wernt good enough?

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

When you’re dealing with me you’d better come correct mate

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago
Reply to  Spurs est_1882

He didn’t spend £300 million and even if he did he won them 3 trophy’s most successful manager since their most successful manager

HarryKaneIsInOurHearts
HarryKaneIsInOurHearts
1 month ago

José wanted Dier at Utd. That’s his CB pick, he wants him to play every game. Utterly mind boggling but those are the facts.

PlayitagainSamways
PlayitagainSamways
1 month ago

You cant legislate for errors but Dier, and I like Dier, is showing that he is a poor centre back game after game.

Not sniffing danger is a poor sign and it is costing us.

Trying to win a game with a Winks? Against championship strugglers maybe but not top sides.

Jose has had well over a year and wont be backed properly and we are back with the same old problem of having a manager who needs to be supported but wont be so it never works.

Or it could be that we just shit ourselves everytime we play liverpool.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Why won’t José be backed properly?

PlayitagainSamways
PlayitagainSamways
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Because Daniel Levy doesn’t know how to support managers to build a winning team

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Says who? Oh old lane people. Keep up mate. N€w lan€ l€vy running the ting different now.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

It’s all about building a winning team now. The stadium has been built. Keep up mate

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

Yes, you can swap Jose with, Hoddle, Jol, Harry, Villas Boas, Poch, in that question.

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Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

All old lane managers. NO MONEY TO BUY GOOD GOOD PLAYERS. NO MONEY TO PAY THEM WAGES. This is the reason we had to leave the old place. Keep up will ya

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Plenty of great players at the Lane. Doing better than them what’s there now. They’ve had money last 20 years. It’s a line. Look at Arsenal.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

What? What players? In the 80s maybe. Do you know how much profit we averaged at the old place on average ? Not enough to buy and pay quality players. Arsenal? You can’t compare their football only stadium to ours. Also Islington council have arsenal by the balls. Tottenham and her mighty earning stadium have Haringey by the balls. Keep up will ya

Ross j
Ross j
1 month ago

A fair bit of deadwood, not debating that but … Toby on the bench so we can play our left back at centre-back, so we can play our out of form right back at left back…
I don’t like fans becoming captain hindsight but on this occasion it was called before the ball was kicked off. Shocking management. At least give our shit players a fighting chance.

StuSpur
StuSpur
1 month ago

Individual mistakes cost us goals and that happened again last night. Our squad is devoid of talent and in my estimate we have 6 quality players. The rest i would happily send on a climb up Everest.
That being said, we can scrutinise each one of them on the field and then also be entitled to scrutinise the manager for his input and Jose doesn’t come out if this smelling of roses either.
The selection and formation was seen by everyone to be a disaster, none of it made sense when put under the microscope. Then we come to his response to going behind, this is when top coaches earn their bread. His substitutions again were horrible.
I admit that Vinicius may not be fit for purpose, Moura is a cad, Bale is busted flush, BUT jose needed to get us goals and all 3 of those were more likely than winks and Pamela.

Jose deserves pellets of his own excrement fired at him just as much as those clowns that failed us last night

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Mike
Mike
1 month ago

Let’s face it, but for a touch of poor luck, we’d have been a goal up in the first couple of minutes. A bit more of ‘Son on form’ and we’d have been two ahead. The ‘Special Ones’ tactics weren’t too far wrong, to begin with anyway. We generally defend fairly well (albeit stupid errors are still made). The thing is, because stupid errors are still made (and because it was pissing down which can increase defensive errors) the counter-attacks have to be done correctly. You need a great first ball to Kane (or someone else in the middle) who can then either run with it or flick it on, and then have someone shoot past the keeper. Our strength doing that has got to be a Net positive against our Defensive Errors. At the moment you can toss a coin whether that occurs.
I reckon last night was a case of too many defensive errors and counter-attacks that just didn’t click. More work needs to be done on the latter.

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Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Listen to you wonky pussy holes.

David Dillenberg
David Dillenberg
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Tappas it’s called realism not delusion!!

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Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

It’s called wonky. Get back to your post and stand firm. What’s wrong with you lot. None of ya could’ve been in any of my firms. B!tchyweak

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

thats more like it..haha..great name..🤣

Dan
Dan
1 month ago

As soon as I saw the team sheet yesterday I knew we would lose. A LB at LCB and a RB at LWB just epitomises Spurs at the moment. A two man midfield against Liverpool’s 3 was never going to work either.

I still maintain that Jose is simply working with what he has, yes I think he got some elements wrong last night, but if you look through our squad there are players there who’s time was up years ago. Until those players are cleared out, these are the kind of performances and results we will need to expect. The football style is different but the long term result is the same (the only difference is that Poch had no desire to win a domestic trophy where as Mourinho loves silverware because it is measurable and something he can then use to prove a point to the board “I won this with the squad I have, invest further and I will deliver more”).

In my opinion over the next few windows we should be looking to move on the following: Hugo, Aurier, Dier, Davies, Sanchez, Winks, Sissoko, Lamela, Moura, Dele, Bale (how many returning players to any club in PL years has been a success?), Vinicius.

And for christ sake don’t get Eriksen back.

Hentus
Hentus
1 month ago

Mourinho is an articulate and charismatic human (albeit one with borderline trumpesque man-child leanings). He seems a decent enough geezer with whom one might well enjoy a beer were it to be offered. And He is not right for spurs. Never was. This chat can fester and rumble till he’s gone.

the debate on Spurs repeated accumulation of worthless humps however is an evergreen. English national investment company vs Fenway sports. Big clue in the name there? Anyway

thought I’d introduce a little game I’ve been using for the past few years to help keep the blood pressure down whilst watching spurs. It’s called the TSW game.

Simply organize the selected match players to into one of three categories: Team, Squad or (stoke on a) wet Wednesday. Incidentally You can insert any team you like. I mean no offence to stoke fans, I’ve simply never been there so it’s remote enough for my purposes.

so let’s start with an easy one: Kane = T. In fact good enough to make any team in world football. and that’s all there is to it.

I notice that legoverlass matched my ‘W’ list in the previous post. Between us we arrived at a total of 12 players who week in week out defy all logic (though sadly rarely gravity) by their continued selection.

I used to send letters to pochettino offering to help him search for his kids – who sissoko had obviously kidnapped and was keeping under the stairs. He never did reply. I’m not sure he fully understood my references to Victorian ‘baby farms’

David Dillenberg
David Dillenberg
1 month ago
Reply to  Hentus

Unless we win some silverware this pivotal season I for one am resigned to Kane’s inevitable departure in the summer!

Last edited 1 month ago by David Dillenberg
Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Nonsense. Kane ain’t leaving

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
1 month ago

Who, honestly would blame him?

Dave
Dave
1 month ago
Reply to  Hentus

Hahahahaha

David Dillenberg
David Dillenberg
1 month ago

Lets all wake up and smell the coffee beans with mangers coming and going nothing will change at Spurs until we progress to the next level under a different regime. Simply put we are an average side consistently inconsistent capable of beating any team on their day but lack both mental resolve and a side capable of seriously mounting a title challenge which evaporated last night (leaving us with 1961 and all that). All that we are left with is a push for 4th spot which is unlikely this season and feeding on scraps of winning the cups!!

Last edited 1 month ago by David Dillenberg
Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Different regime? Why?

David Dillenberg
David Dillenberg
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

The clue is called massive investment on players.
Whilst spending millions of pounds does not guarantee success a distinctlack of investment precludes success!

Last edited 1 month ago by David Dillenberg
Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Massive investment? Oh please. Lack of Investment days are done. Stop banging on about old lane levy. Tings ago run different now. It’s all about pumping money into the squad now. Keep up

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

The only money pumping will be done into Enics account. 🙏🙏🙏

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Limerick AL

ENIC DONT NICK THFCS MONEY. (NO DUFFLE BAGS) WHEN THEY SELL MONEY WILL BE PUMPED INTO THEIR ACCOUNTS. LEVY GONNA BUY TOTTENHAM FROM JOE I RECKON.
don’t believe everything you read man

Last edited 1 month ago by Tappaspur
Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago

its players like Lo Celso and N’Dom we should be striving for…not keeping hold of the likes of Winks & Lamela. Reasons to be cheerful, Kane, Son, Iceberg, Stevy, D’Dom, Lo Celso, Reggy, Rodon, Toby, – players to keep in the squad for the time being, Oreo, Davies, Hugo, Sanchez, Tango & Sissoko…..just get rid of the rest

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Tango?

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Japhet

lihle
lihle
1 month ago

I strongly disagree with the article. Mourinho is picking a defensive team instead of balancing defense and attack: seven defensive players if you include Bergwyn. The blue print is for Dier to lump it forward to Son/Kane with no interest in build ups. Bale showed his class and guile on Monday, even scoring a goal but guess what, Mou prefers Bergwyn because he defends well. How many goals this season have been conceded from Dier and Sergei’s errors: but hey those are his sons and they can do no wrong. He hates creative players and prefers so called fighters such as Lamela. His style of play makes bottom teams like Fulham to boss Spurs around. Mistakes were bound to happen because of the relentless pressure from a not-so-strong Liverpool made to look like kings by the Coach’s archaic tactics. Mou’s tactics failed Spurs: not the players.

Dave
Dave
1 month ago
Reply to  lihle

Absolutely

Boring negative defensive football with zero imagination or attacking intent.

Messing about with the back at the back, hoofing the ball out of play or up top.

Doherty in the team is a disaster, but at left back, my god, he either has zero confidence or is totally sh!te and you play him out of position. That was poor selection.

Rodon was the only defender to come out of last night with any credit, he made the mistake for the goal, but otherwise did well.

Aurier supposedly stormed out if the ground at half time, may be Bull, but this is what Mourinho does, he causes ill feeling.

Whatever anyones thoughts on Dele, he has been very poorly treated.

There is a huge build up of negativity, pundits, fans and seemingly within the dressing room, it’s the Mourinho way, it’s what he does. When you couple that with dreadful football, conceding play to second rate teams and continually making mistakes it’s difficult not to be critical.

Ultimately it’s all on Mourinho, he picks the players, trains them and sets them up to play that way.

David Dillenberg
David Dillenberg
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave

We are not good enough. Simples!

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave

José causes I’ll feeling? If keeping it real and being brutally honest causes I’ll feeling then fck the player

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave

Maybe if you understood the art of defending you wouldn’t find it boring. If you think José trains the team to sit back and not attack you’re stupid. Stop jumping on what others say.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave

How has dele been poorly treated? For your information dele and José are kool. Dele knows what he’s gotta do.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  lihle

José hates creative players? Bull $h!t

Big Mal
Big Mal
1 month ago

Mourinho is not helping by the way he sets the team up. I watched West Ham the other night and they could have scored 7 or 8 because they play a sensible formation and move the ball forward quickly. Last night Mourinho had 2 in midfield against 3 and we were overrun. A Sunday League manager would not make that mistake. He tried to rectify it at half time by bringing on Winks. Too late. Everyone knew he had got it wrong BEFORE the game. We made individual errors at the back. Guess what. Defenders make errors so why not attack and force errors like Liverpool did? Their defence isn’t great but they were set up properly and not exposed. Mourinho, right now, is getting it wrong and needs to sort it out very quickly or we will end 8th or 9th

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Big Mal

its like Jose wants these errors to happen to prove a point..”its not me Mr Levy making these errors, I need new players?”

Our defence is crap especially without reggy so pack the midfield instead..we need Lo Celso back

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Rubbish

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

tongue-in-cheek Mr Tapp…but unlike you I don’t have blind faith, however we still both want the same result…

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

If you don’t have any kind of faith what do you have?

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

facts, fingers crossed and hope that the pull of Jupiters gravity aligns our team to pass to their own players and score goals!!

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Cha. Stop moaning and get behind the great club. Look where we are to where we were. You forget?

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

I agree with you H wanting to back Jose, but I dont think he will ever have a full squad of players he needs under Levy..

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Why won’t he? Old lane thinking

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

its going to take years to recover from this Pandemic, the club have so much debt, cant see Jose being given the money he needs..

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

For fck sake our 30 year Bond debt is minor. Struth. Money soon make again at the new lane. José will be given funds to strengthen. It’s all about the team now. Keep up. Try talking to people that know instead of believing all the sh!t you read

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

ive starting getting grey hairs ffs….buy buy buy…I dont have time 🤨😆

lihle
lihle
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Why have Doherty and Sergei in the same team? Why would we want Dybala when we have Bale on the bench? For your information Mou would be given Dybala, Grealish or even Kevin Keagen and he would come out to tell us how useless they are as players like he did with KDB, Mo Salah or even with Ndombele.

lihle
lihle
1 month ago
Reply to  Big Mal

Agree with you strongly.

Sandro
Sandro
1 month ago

‘Nuff said – probably the most sensible piece you have ever written. The problem is in the middle of a pandemic and with the way our board runs the club, how the hell are we going to replace all the deadwood (not good enough or too old) with ones that are good? This isn’t a ” we just need 2 or 3 more players” situation – we are talking 10 or more.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Sandro

10 or more? Nonsense

Sean
Sean
1 month ago

Why put Vinicius on the bench if he doesn’t rate him?

Carlos
Carlos
1 month ago

Completely agree, that was a typical Spurs performance. Sprinkles of magic undone by a barrage of crap from defence mixed in with mediocre from the rest. Been like this for 20+ years now. Anytime someone attacks us with pace and goes at us you think goal. On the bright side if we win our game in hand still the best team in London

David Dillenberg
David Dillenberg
1 month ago
Reply to  Carlos

Before I am condemned by Willie, not only are West Ham riding high in the table but that Arsenal revived by Saka and Emile Smith-Rowe (who were at one stage were languishing in the nether regions) will probably be overtaking us shortly!!

David Dillenberg
David Dillenberg
1 month ago

Yes we were 10 pts ahead of them at one stage!!

Sean
Sean
1 month ago

What about the majestically Bergwijn, acres of space in the Liverpool defence. Never found one ball over the top to Son. Liverpool defence was set up like Southampton’s when we thrashed them.

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Sean

all our front 3 had shockers last night…Stevy looks good on the ball and works his socks off but passing and shooting he needs to work on..

Sean
Sean
1 month ago

How many goals/assists would you expect him to chip in for the remainder of the season?

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago

I, for one, freely admit that I do not enjoy the team’s style of play under Mourinho, and cannot see the advantage of conceding so much possession, particularly at home. I thought Mourinho’s team selection last night stank but that doesn’t correlate into some fantasy of dreaming about Eriksen’s return. We played with essentially a back five last night, which allowed Liverpool to dictate the game, even though they have been poor recently. Perhaps it is time for a little less sycophancy about our manager and a close examination of his tactics and playing style might be warranted.
I do, however, agree that it is out continuous failure in the transfer market that hinders any manager at Spurs. It is high time that Levy withdrew his input into recruitment and appointed people who know what they are doing which is exactly what Liverpool did.

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

yep…I don’t see much vitriol on this site about Jose, just people speaking their mind so maybe its twitter H is referring to but I avoid that. I want Jose to work. He has half a team and you could clearly see the split down the middle last night but that doesn’t mean he can’t do better with what he has, terrible set up and little reaction.
I didn’t want Bale back nor Eriksen either but I don’t blame Levy for Bale, I guess it was worth a punt. If we have no money, now what….another merrry-go-round…

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

You hate José so nothing you say can be taken seriously. Our continuous failures in the transfer market at the new lane? Keep up

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago

Well said. I can’t wait for people to comment on this. There is nothing anyone can say.. We wait years for a striker and he’s not good enough. And Gedson Fernandes is just a prime example of wastage. He’s picked up around 3 million in wages already.. We had a good window, we need great. Losing Kane is a disaster and whenever I see Winks come on now against decent opponents my heart sinks. I was saying pre season half our squad wasn’t good enough. Not many agreed. The proof is in the pudding.

Selsey Bill
Selsey Bill
1 month ago

Sick to the back teeth of “Fortress NWHL” being breached. Thank fluck are away form is so good.

Poch out

vin_ot
vin_ot
1 month ago

For as long as Kane is out I expect to be treated to some of the least watchable football in the history of Spurs. Maybe in the history of the game.

I find little consolation when watching this stuff in the cult that surrounds the coach. It is unrewarding on every level. I get nothing from it.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  vin_ot

This is what crap players give you. Crap football. Davies Winks Dier Sanchez etc are producing.. Even Son isn’t great. He’s great at running on to balls thread over the top or through the middle but build up play and playmaking he’s shit, he slows us down and produces nothing. Maureen has played to our strengths.. Unfortunately you’re only as strong as your weakest link.

vin_ot
vin_ot
1 month ago

Unfortunately he prefers the crap players. Ones who cannot unlock doors but just harry and block off space. Look who he starts, brings on and excludes.

He revealed his whole philosophy when he said whichever team has the ball has fear. Hence he wants a team made up primarily of water carriers.

lihle
lihle
1 month ago
Reply to  vin_ot

Agreed. It is Mou’s philosophy destroying the team. Why play Doherty in left-mid? Will he give any creativity? No!! He plays Bergwyn because of his defensive capabilities; not because of being offensively sound. Seven defensive minded players and yet expect to easily win matches? I dare say that Brighton will dominate Spurs on Sunday because of Mou’s archaic ideas. The sooner we are rid of this guy, the happier I will be.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  lihle

Wonky mug

vin_ot
vin_ot
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Twitter is not going to change anything. A packed stadium paying top dollar might,, but unfortunately that is a long way off.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago

Yep.dire winks Davies Sanchez ain’t good enough yes. The rest are good enough for now. Our squad ain’t that bad if you include our good youts

Dave
Dave
1 month ago
Reply to  vin_ot

Absolutely and totally agree.

It’s dreadful.

We have some good players, but we are not interested in letting them play football. The onus is letting the other team have the majority of the possession, hope we can defend 85 minutes of the game and score with a 1 shot on goal.

There is nothing to be excited about.

The manager picks the team, the manager keeps picking Dier at centre half, plays Sanchez, Doherty, Aurier, Winks, lamela et all. He picks the team.

He bought in some of the players.

He trains the players.

It’s dreadful

Recent history sure serial winner Mourinho will win something, but no one wants him in their club for long. He is poison, he is outdated and plays terrible boring football.

We had an opportunity to be progressive, but we weren’t, he is a very diversive figure that will please people who are desperate to win the tin pot cup and will mortify every other fan who wants to watch exciting attacking football.

Btcs82
Btcs82
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Honestly guys, Mourinho is a winner, look at his CV. We need a proper squad overhaul and we need to start using some of our young, hungry players. Players who WANT to fight for the shirt.

Too many players are average. We have talented younger players. The time has come to use them.

Dave
Dave
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Why does he keep playing them?

Mike
Mike
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Nuno Espírito Santo got more than a tune out of Doherty.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Doherty was a Mourinho pick and he wanted to buy Dier for Man Utd. Not sure about his recruitment selection.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
1 month ago
Reply to  vin_ot

Well go support someone else then until we start playing how you’d like us to play. Die soft fan

Last edited 1 month ago by Tappaspur