The anti-Mourinho meltdown never needs much prompting, the grumbles online usually start after about 20-minutes if we’re not winning. Ironically, one senses there’s a correlation between the fans dissatisfied with José, and those that felt reinstalling Christian Eriksen was a sound idea. The parameters of imagination involved are invariably narrow to the point of negligible. Last week some fans fancied installing Brendan Rodgers at the helm.
Last night, one individual thought that the Southampton coach’s name was worth throwing into the mix. Personally, I’d prefer Zippy or Bungle from Rainbow to be given a chance. Or what about the guy in the bear suit, Geoffrey, was it?
The cold truth of it is that the Spurs squad is still undermined by players who are complete failures from past regimes. Dear me, Erik Lamela has been bumbling about the place for 8-years. Eric Dier (we will discuss another mind-bogglingly bad performance later on) is a colossal failure. The now 27-year-old’s career has also slipped past him without honours. Harry Winks’ is 25-years-old in a few days. Another player that would be unlikely to cause a stampede if Spurs were to offer him for sale. Dele Alli’s crowning glory may well yet be that the only coach to court him in a transfer market is Pochettino. You couldn’t make it up.
And then we have all the more recently accrued junk that show no signs of precipitating meaningful change. Carlos Vinicius is a name some fans are still struggling to understand the logic of having if he can’t get a go when Harry Kane is injured. Penny dropped yet? He’s not good enough. Not a guess, an observation based upon the fact Mourinho doesn’t play him unless it’s against pub sides. I didn’t mention Gedson Fernandes. There you go, that’s that attended to.
Matt Doherty was a pretty imperious player at Wolves, his time at Spurs has been utterly disappointing. Davinson Sanchez began his time with us brightly and has become a bungle waiting to happen. It’s worth sparing a mention here for Ledley King. A source close to the club told me at the time it was a political appointment and I guess we are really reaping the benefits of that decision now.
Elsewhere, we have an ageing Toby Alderweireld who simply cannot manage to play every game any more – the same can be said about Gareth Bale. The expensive fairytale that turned out Grimm.
This squad has pockets of hope, players that could start a rejuvenation, but they are battling against the odds. Mauricio Pochettino was pulled from a burned out car and some fans it seems, appear to believe that from the ashes, class players might be pulled. To those fans I have 4 words. You. Are. Kidding. Me.
Mourinho doesn’t need time, in so much that Portuguese could spend the rest of his days coaching Winks and still get nowhere. What José needs are transfer funds and his problem is the debt that we’re shackled to forever thanks to the ENIC business model – which included everything a boy could wish for – except pandemic insurance that Wimbledon took out.
If you don’t like Mourinho, that’s fine, I’m not selling him. I’m selling reason.
Yep his best players he inherited.
Botch couldnt even win that! After spending 492,000,000 million 🤦♀️
On the 6th year mark Botch said that! Before he was berry appy and was telling us how difficult it was to get a guy that can improve such a great squad! He spent 492,000,000 at Spurs and Saints.. His best players were already at their respective clubs… Just shy of half a billion pounds expenditure suggests he was backed (until the end)
Without Kane I wonder if Botch would have got us into Europe at all… Also at Saints and Spurs he spent just shy of 500 million… And won nothing at both clubs… £492,000,000 and Kane in his ranks and he couldn’t win jack shit… People need to understand what the word miracle means 🤦♀️
Don’t disagree with some of what you say about Lamela, Winks, Dier in particular but Vinicius and Doherty were Mourinho picks and Fernandez he thought he could mould. He isn’t even responsible for Ndombele improvement.He hasn’t and in fact like Dele, Sanchez and others he has succeeded in eroding any confidence that they may have had. Just like he did with Luke Shaw. Complaining that he does not have funds to replace them properly isn’t an argument that works, it’s our reality. So if he can’t work with what he has got then clearly he isn’t the right coach. Which is why Hassenhuttl and Rogers names have been mentioned because they both take what they have and get them performing better. Which is what Poch did season after season. Now he has gone we can assess the true impact and achievement he had on the club. I seriously doubt Mourinho would get that squad to the CL final or constantly top 4.
whether nobodies like you and I like Dier or not, the manager you like
thinks highly of him.
I have wondered this about you over the years. You don’t even know what pre season is all about! Did you celebrate the Audi cup like we won the CL? Or did you just sit at home all confused and vexed? 😳
The Toby situation is worrying.. Dier can head and tackle pretty good. But he can’t run or play football very well. He needs to improve everything including maintaining focus… Vini has to play now Kane is injured. We bought a striker in, now is the time to give him a chance I believe.
Pre season cups don’t count these are more like training matches with noone going 100 per cent and team sheets experimental to say the least. Teams play fringe players and everyone takes it easy, no injuries, because the start of the season is around the corner… So the League cup is much harder to win than the audi cup… This shouldn’t vex you my man it’s basics.
So ‘if’ it all goes wrong then its THFC that crumbles. Enic cut and run. This is what disgusts me. And Mr Lewis in Barbados could afford to build that stadium. He’s minted, yet we lead the way with over a billion debt
Pennywise, but pound foolish.
They didn’t spend loads though, nothing like city or united.. They were clever they used the Coutinho money and others and targeted the right players needed.. We wasted the Bale money and bought loads of dross.. If Botch didn’t have a say on the 27 players he signed and the 40 odd he sold then I call bullshit. He certainly had his say on Townsend.. Add up all the dross and we could have signed some real quality, like Liverpool did.
Tottenham borrowed the money to pay for the stadium. It’s our stadium. All that chunk of land from park lane to Northumberland park is owned by tottenham. Than includes the grade 2 listed percy house. The listed dial house too. All owned by tottenham
Core Tennant? We are the landlord. We rent out
Fenway sold before they bought. They follow a similar business model to ENIC.
Fenway were lucky that there were takers for their players at ridiculous prices.
They sold quite a lot of players (some average) for big money – Coutinho(140+), Sterling(60+), 20+ – Ings, Benteke, Sakho, Brewster, Solanke and others between 10 and 20 mill. Around 400 mill in sales during Klopp’s years.
When ENIC financed the stadium, they pulled £340m out of nowhere.
Think of how many transfers of vital players were pulled at the last minute over pennies under AVB and Pochettino
A director at Spurs publicly referred to Spurs as the core tenant in a pitch about the NFL business – I’ve covered it on here several times
It’s not their money.
The debt is in the name of OUR club.
Some too stupid to get it, some don’t wanna get it. They just wanna hate on Joe& Daniel coz they think they’ve been stealing our money to buy land ect for ENIC. Hate our new money making home yet they want top players on top money. They wish we were back at the old lane
Anchor Tennant’s? Nonsense
Spurs will never spend like a legitimate big club until ENIC does what? What the fck has ENIC got to do with how THFC spend their own money? Clueless. ENIC FC” never heard anything so stupid.
Tottenham doesn’t need ENIC money now. What has ENIC got to do with THFC money that according to you no manager will get? So ENIC will be taking THFC money? You ain’t got s clue have ya. You can’t see clearly through the hate. Also too much rubbish has been put through your head. “Parasites? Clueless
Gonna bang on about the past forever or you gonna look to the next 20 years for joy like most fans? The past is exactly where it is
How anyone can have zero criticism of ENIC’s time with Spurs is beyond me. One League Cup in 20 years?
I don’t think he cares to be honest…
Yes, a good metaphor a Swanky garage with a kit car up on blocks you still haven’t bough the wheels for. Nobody has any idea when the wheels will be bought either…
A bit like Levy’s gagging order on Paul Mitchell after he left!
You just talk for the sake of it don’t ya. You ain’t got a clue. The thing is you don’t want to see. You just wanna hate José&levy. How long have we been in the new place. Cha you’re just ignorant. Come around certain people with your rubbish talk you’d get run. “Let’s see how things go compared to others? Others ain’t doing what we’re doing and others ain’t in London. “The summer window (during a pandemic) demonstrates what? Cha
Klopp is surely backed more via payroll but the net spend zero swap of Coutinho for Allison and VanDijk has been the key to their success. Idk if/when Spurs will ever spend like a legitimate big club but until ENIC does all this stuff is just howling at the moon.
Why not (now that we’ll be earning it) or do you think ENIC are nicking it all? You’re so out of touch. Compare klopps first full season to Jose’s
Klopp was backed though and the money he was given by Fenway is the sort of money no Tottenham manager will get under ENIC.
Don’t forget the 2m top 4 bonus as well.
I just don’t see the leopard changing it’s spots or much changing, even when the stadium is well attended for every game.
People talk about 10 years to deal with the debt and get ourselves where some predict we will be but the idea just isn’t that original that will be about 35 years under ENIC! Other clubs are building and have built new stadiums with similar capacity, the only difference with us is that we have the NFL. I have np idea what significant difference that revenue will make, I haven’t even mentioned the debt.
The stadium is awesome but I’m not sure about the seismic changes that it makes to the football budget, certainly not in the short to medium term.
The summer window demonstrates this.
Holberg was an absolute steal for 15m. Doherty thankfully didn’t cost any more than 15m, then you’ve got loans and Reggie which seems more of a long term lease than a short term loan. Hardly the kind of spending to think things are changing anytime soon. Covid or no Covid.
Let’s see, when we all come out of this global crisis we will find out how we do things compared to others…
The Texaco Cup was the one to go for. Failing that the Watney Cup had its moments. The Motherwell defeat still sticks in my craw.
Too early to throw Jose under his bus just yet. We’re still alive in 4 competitions after taking over a team languishing last year mid-table. It took Klopp a couple of years to turn Liverpool around, and they clearly had more talent to start with than here. I view this crazy year as a transition period – try to nick a trophy, but more importantly instill some fundamentals and evaluate who to keep and who to bin. Jose is not an idiot (he keeps telling us this, that’s how I know). He would love to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Liverpool but does not have enough skill players that can move the ball quickly, one-touch, while still maintaining defensive shape. So, he’s adopted tactics to accommodate this. It’s ugly, but still early, and I was told once that it’s better to go ugly early.
sadly about right. personally although he was really poor last night i still think Dies is ok and why Mourinho didint play Toby i dont know.
as for Dochrty- well! dont get me started! better play with 10 men! there is nothing of the spark he had playing for Wolves and to play him left back!! Again dont get me started!!
Vinicious Gedson and Docherty are all second rate. and as you say Bale is Grimm. not sure he even wants to play anymore. Perhaps the money has actually made him realise he doesn’t need to knock his pipes out anymore. Very sad.
Our two in midfield were overrun by Milner,Thiago and Wijnaldun.Even though Winks was brought on at half time,he was the wrong choice as Sissoko would have been a more physical presence.
These were Mourinho’s choices for the game.In fact N’Dom faded badly in the second half.The fact is our bench is not good enough and neither was the starting eleven.
Maybe you are right that the team is not as great as one could wish. The question is, does Mourinho get the best out of them? I suspect not. Many of them seem lower in confidence than for long. Two of the greatest attacking players in the world get next to no service from behind. Few Teams register as few shots on goal as Spurs. Watching them play as a Burnley team is depressing. Sack Mourinho, as soon as possible. Start building something positive.
Yep missed out on him. I can remember at the time most spurs fans were saying levy was shopping in the bargain basement and didn’t rate him
José s too rich to care about money. He knows his worth though
More a shame we have one setback and we crumble mentally
Shame the game isn’t played for only 15 minutes
My Barber is a villa fan, and he’s still grateful that Levy f***ed up trying to play hardball, when spurs should have signed Grealish.
Yes, the commentators last night sussed it – Ndombele is the form player, you have to make sure he’s playing up the field as close to Son and Kane as feasible.
Jose instead went for the opposite approach and gave him a mountain of work to do in the middle of the park and worse, dropping back to defend.
Not good but I sort of get what Jose was trying. To be fair, it nearly worked, we could have scored first and did look tidy for the first 15.
Our mentality stinks because after the goal decision something switched.
Nuthin good!
Yes Mourinho would have been aware of the constraints upon him,but 15M/year is a very persuasive argument to not bitch too much about those restrictions.
ENIC DONT NICK THFCS MONEY. (NO DUFFLE BAGS) WHEN THEY SELL MONEY WILL BE PUMPED INTO THEIR ACCOUNTS. LEVY GONNA BUY TOTTENHAM FROM JOE I RECKON.
don’t believe everything you read man
What? What players? In the 80s maybe. Do you know how much profit we averaged at the old place on average ? Not enough to buy and pay quality players. Arsenal? You can’t compare their football only stadium to ours. Also Islington council have arsenal by the balls. Tottenham and her mighty earning stadium have Haringey by the balls. Keep up will ya
Stop talking rubbish. I’ve never seen empty seats there apart from Europa League games. CL and pl sold out mainly. This is why we are expanding again. “What future? A much brighter one than if we were at the old place.
The errors they made yesterday were, or are nothing to do with tactics. GK not coming for a ball, body shape for a ball played across goal, no player available for a second ball after the keeper parries a shot. Poor defending. Naff all to do with tactics.
Erm he did keep us in Europe for half his time here. Poch worked miracles did he? How? Poch had the best facilities in the world to work in and still won nothing with a billion pound team. Arry had a very decent bunch to work with and did very well. (Levy wasn’t expecting that) stadium wheels were already in motion so no money for transfer (Levy’s stubborn) yep he sacked him and brought in &8.5 million a year yes man and used him to keep us in Europe to bring the money in (for the stadium) brilliant. You just don’t get it. Levy used your boy poch. Paid him handsomely though. Poch knew there would be little money to spend.
Nope. Just someone who knows what’s going on. You the sheep just jump on crap you read
Why is ENIC the problem? Coz as owners they didn’t invest in players? Did they say they would and did they have to? I was just glad they bought sugar out and levy sacked raincoat man. ENIC haven’t put money in or taken money out. Before they came we were rubbish and broke. Now we are better and rich. I have no problems with them. Joe doesn’t want to spend his money on this business. That’s his perrogitive
Poch too dumb to hustle
See some things don’t change
Can remember you moaning when the boys were singing 🎼 we’re the paaaaark lane tot ten ham. Like park lane had been moved. “Why they singing that for?
More levy hate nonsense. Levy has done pretty well at the new lane (during this c19 ting especially) You’ve got too much hate for the man to realise it.
I think we are finding that’s what it was from Levy’s perspective. Less a new dawn, but more a patch up and make do, rather than give the management what they need to implement their methods. The Amazon thing had a lot to do with it as well.
So here we are, and everybody apart from Levy is left scratching their heads as to what happens next. Jose doesn’t get power to do much, at a club where the chairman is obsessed with the Continental model of transfers by committee and interchangeable management etc.
Most clubs are run like this now and I’m sure Jose will have been made aware of all this before he took the job. In he came saying how brilliant the squad and players were. Given all of that, how much of a position is he now in to demand lots of transfer activity? He doesn’t expect much i’m sure.
I’m also sure that Levy will be expecting a top 4 position. He will feel that his investment in hiring this manager and his staff should be enough to achieve that. Rightly or wrongly…
The only money pumping will be done into Enics account. 🙏🙏🙏
SUPER TOTTENHAM FROM THE LANE!
A question popped into me head and I’m genuinely struggling. What’s more competitive a comp? The Audi cup we won, or this year’s league cup? It’s a teaser. Really. Pre season yes, but look at the teams we played nonetheless….vexes me.
So what if he has. They’ll need our players as much as we’ll need theirs in the future. Fck dem clubs. Scuppered deals? Levy know when to stop bidding which ain’t easy? You obviously don’t know how auctions work. I’m glad clubs know that my club won’t be bent over. Listen our money is as good as anybodys in this ting. Fck dem little clubs. I like how my chairman operates. Go in low Daniel and take it from their. Just because we have money now it doesn’t mean we’ll be mugged off
Who, honestly would blame him?
Can’t disagree with you, my thoughts exactly. I wonder what’s going through Harry’s mind after a sh🧻t show like last night.
Oh give it a rest will ya. Who gives a fck what Liverpool did. ENIC have no Interest in providing the fans what they want? How do you know? ENIC are interested in making money (it’s what investment companies do) success on the pitch will make us more valuable for when they sell a(so will a squad full of quality players which is what we’ll be working on next. “Only interested in the bottom line? Which is fatting up their investment (obviously) We never strengthened coz we were building a stadium to make sure we can always strengthen in the future (what’s so hard in that to understand? (Weaken us dangerously? The new stadium did not affect our recruitment policy (money was there to spend) you ain’t got a clue what’s going on at tottenham. All you do is read second hand information to hate on levy. Moving into the new stadium is the best thing that could’ve happened to us. We were being left behind. Changes at the top? Careful what you wish for.
Well anyone who can explain playing a left back at centre half to accommodate a right back at left back with your best centre half on the bench is doing well. The art of war. Attack where your enemy is weak. Henderson ain’t even a midfielder let alone defender yet where was the idea to attack him and his partner? Their 2 full backs are great going forward but if they have a weakness its defending. We have the best partnership arguably in world football up front yet they spend their days defending. And as for the dead wood, that’s been ongoing and will remain so while that nugget at the top demands 30m for players that wouldn’t get a game at southend. Theres always a bottom line and it’s this. Every club hes at ends up with a dressing room in turmoil. Thats a fact. Why anyone thought this would end differently is beyond me. Personally id get his p45 to him asap, but once again its hiding the real problem. I used to come on here and say whats the point of the fanciest garage in the world with a mini metro housed in it. I’d go as far as to say tricycle now. Its garbage and anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain deluded
What Future? You will see lots of empty seats at the new white Elephant. That’s the Future.
And I fear for what may happen there as they have certainly woken up now
Decent table tennis player too.
Never had any Gripe with getting Jose. But if he is not getting the players that he wants then it’s all pointless, just a Cheaper get out clause for Levy.
My order of priority for shifting, based on current form and (lack of) potential for improvement would be:
Ones that I personally would keep some faith with are Davies (just an ok utility squaddie), Dier (one more season to try and improve as Jose really wants him to improve/succeed), Toby (squeeze one last season out as an experienced head to keep helping the young ‘uns), Hart (whatever, but we need another keeper too), Lo Celso (he’s patchy from-wise but deserves a last chance…but it is a last chance now)
The rest are safe as houses – or, the horror, our best players might try and force a move if things go sour.
Oh shush. Old lane boy.
Those who know know. Everyting bles$
Lamela has been a Wage Thief. No other Club wants him so he will stay on the Gravy Wagon.
Davies is Captain for Spurs Pub Games! That sums up our position as a FC.
Ledley was such a good footballer that even if he made an error he could just nick the ball back…
And you KNOoooooW that if the team manages to win the League cup that’s going to be used as proof of the wonderous future ENIC had in store. Ready for that. A buy, FLampard on penno’s, Stoke and Brenford VAR assisted. Quite a run.
Great Article. Groundhog Day at THFC.
The new stadium is going to provide us with riches beyond our wildest dreams. The generations of debt is just a anti-Levy conspiracy theorists who don’t understand football or balance sheets. There will be money and transfers followed by trophies as Daniels 20 year master plan comes to fruition. You just need to be patient, give it time.
Daniel kept us in Europe. Hahahaha solid Gold. Poch worked miracles with no help. Harry before him otherwise our Danny would’ve been strung up on the high Rd by now. Bottom of the table, 2 points when he rushed to Harry to save him….and save him he did, Top 4, QF’s of CL, in the title race….needed help for the push and what does Levy do? ? ?
Nelson and Saha. Then sacked him for not taking the England job. Hahaha. You HAVE to be on the payrole.
Gonna blame levy for all those 45 years?
Proper owner? Because ENIC don’t invest in the business does that make them bad owners? Tottenham have to make our own money. We’re now in a position to.
We’re in a final now though.
Blame levy for what? Setting us up for the future?
Good point, I think Alan Hansen is unemployed if you can get him off the golf course. It doesn’t appear to me that our current defensive coach, Ledley, is doing a good job.
Plenty of great players at the Lane. Doing better than them what’s there now. They’ve had money last 20 years. It’s a line. Look at Arsenal.
Parisites? What have these parasites taken from the club? Stop chatting rubbish and go get your facts right. From the moment levy realised we couldn’t complete at the old lane and put the wheels In motion to build our wonderful cash cow stadium I knew money for transfers would be limited. Most people who knew what was going on knew the same. Cha. I rate the way Daniel kept us in Europe most of the time while doing so. Anyone who thinks Tottenhams money has been taken out of the club for other ENIC projects is STUPID
“Chucked a chance for a league cup? If you say so
once on MOTD every1 was praising Phil Jagielkas performances & how he was man of the match. Lineker said great last ditch tackles. He may have been getting a team mate out of the crap sometimes but Alan Hansen said he shouldnt make ladt ditch tackles. He should start in the right position. Harsh but true. This is the yardstick. Boot room teachings. I want to see Spurs flowing football but want a tight ship with it. Arsenal did it. Maybe its worth taking on an old Liverpool player as a coach & learn how they won over & over
The defence certainly needs sorting out, that seems to be where the most issues seem to be right now. However, midfield and attack looks to be fairly well staffed at the moment, although another option in central midfield wouldn’t go amiss.
There also needs to be a degree of responsibility shouldered by the coaches when it comes to individual or collective errors. Particularly if they keep happening and it’s the main reason why the team is being undermined. That’s what coaches have to do, if these are basic errors.
Beggining to think we have a paid troll here. 😶
Wrong again. Poch specifically said they needed “some fresh blood” over that period. Hamstrung like the rest. Poch played the Levy game so isn’t blameless but there’s only one real problem at N17. ENIC.
Poch chose not to buy not levy. Dumb poch reckoned the £30 odd million offered wasn’t enough to improve on what we already had. Mug.
I know it’s ridiculous. Levy still gets talked up in the media as the master hard baller negotiator….it’s the opposite, he’s alienated more chairman and scuppered deals by the barrel load with his nonsense. Just painfull watching it.
Lamela can play. It’s just that he’s fragile. Young bergy can play and will get better. Power serge is a good squad player. Hart was a great signing (not as a keeper). Davies Sanchez dier Doherty all rubbish. Lucas good squad player too.
All old lane managers. NO MONEY TO BUY GOOD GOOD PLAYERS. NO MONEY TO PAY THEM WAGES. This is the reason we had to leave the old place. Keep up will ya
It doesn’t matter who the manager is, his hands will be tied by Levy’s insistence in meddling in the transfer market. We need a root and branch reform as to how we recruit, scout and analyse prospective new players. This is what Fenway Sports did at Liverpool. They also made the decision to achieve success on the pitch before increasing Anfield’s capacity. Enic have no interest in providing the fans what they want. They are only interested in the bottom line. Levy is under the illusion that he is some sort of expert in the transfer market. His record demonstrates that is this palpably untrue.
If any supporter thinks that not strengthening for two windows, whomsoever the manager was, did not weaken us dangerously is deluded. Every club strengthens in the transfer market, particularly those with serious title ambitions. In fact, Levy promised the supporters that the new stadium would not affect our recruitment policy which was a total lie.
It will continue to be Groundhog Day at Spurs until there are seismic changes at the top.
How has dele been poorly treated? For your information dele and José are kool. Dele knows what he’s gotta do.
Maybe if you understood the art of defending you wouldn’t find it boring. If you think José trains the team to sit back and not attack you’re stupid. Stop jumping on what others say.
He’s a cancer and we need him removed. A sick ailing club.
It will take time, but if the last summer window is anything to go by, Jose will have been considering various viable targets, as well as who to get rid of to make room.
Sounds like more jam tomorrow, but this time, I really believe things can change.
We’ve got what we’ve got. Jose sees this as a project/evolution which means cups are the aim this season. We need a few more summer transfer windows to sort the squad to be league contenders hence just win the next match and see where we finish mantras.
With playing style, we play to win with the players we have. Pep couldn’t do it in his first season a city and spent big. You can only use the talent you have. But we need to pick up trophies on route to hopefully win the league and CL in a few years.