When José Mourinho signed for Tottenham, it was less of a mixed bag and more of a bag with a rather nasty tear in it. There were some fine quotes that came out of the ‘All Or Nothing’ documentary, and in particular, the one where he urged his players to be ‘clever‘, as opposed to ‘stupid‘. You might recall the full line due to its repeated profanity.
Today, at The Bridge, I felt we were occasionally very stupid and extremely fortunate not to leave with zero points and reputation damaged well beyond two managers having handbags.
I take a view that the tackle on Havertz by Bentancur was at least a yellow, and the assault by Romero on Cucurella’s afro was a complete disgrace.
Sure, beered-up and bouncing, we all want Spurs to win at all costs, but today’s performance left me wondering just what we have become. I’m not suggesting we play like a bunch of softies, but too much of that performance this afternoon lacked professional character.
Naively or not, it’s my belief that we aren’t the sort of side that embraces Diego Costa-type tactics.
Tottenham’s coach pulls out of SW5 tonight with a point more than it arrived with. Short-term gain. Huzza! However, for the foreseeable future, all referees will be watching us for any other indicators of belligerence we might let slip. It’s impossible to, brush a Premier League clash that resulted in both coaches being red-carded, under anyone’s radar.
Specifically Botch is a great coach, but he couldn’t manage a shag in a brothel..
Spot on Dave
Got ball first it shows on replays..follow through got man too…but it’s a natural thing to do ( follow through )
I see you’re an idiot by Native American for a reason. I am writing about the Romero tackle, not the Bentancur one.
Ever since the game ended there have been whingeing and whining about the Betancur tackle. Are replays now ignored by Prem pundits? Betancur got THE BALL, as the replay shows with perfect clarity. Was it a glancing touch? Yes. But I don’t recall any rule saying that unless the touch can be seen by myopic, lazy pundits, it’s a foul.
Of course this is why City wins everything! I never realised it was ‘always dodgy decisions’ that wins them titles and finals.
You’re waffling horse💩 mate.
I have 20/10 vision mate.
Do you have a link for any replays? I’ve seen the one on match of the day but couldn’t find more.. Head on it looks a foul all day.
Specifically Poch doesn’t have that nasty edge. Mourinho does as does Conte and as we saw so does Tuchel. They instil a different kind of mentality into players. Poch simply didn’t have that. It’s not a dig it’s a fact.
There are fans out there who’d still want Poch in charge. Some would prefer him to Conte. These are the fans who think someone saying he’d of been berry appy with our performance despite being outplayed for 90 mins are and have been part of the problem this past decade.
Bit of a dig at Poch. Fact is if Jose was in charge we’d have got well beat
I remember Wilson Palacios fighting like lion against AC Milan in an incredible match
Oh no ! Not a spelling nazi… Gawd help us. It was probably spell check but hey… I think you know who I meant.
“Havertz was definitely losing it and Cuti handled that very well, his tackle on Havetz genuinely hurt him” ha ! Hurt him so much he humped up straight away and ran wrying to the linesman….
They’ve already passed their auditions… remember last season ?
It’s Mackay, how could you not know this ?
I like your ‘JimmyGreivance’ pen name….
Why wasn’t Steptoe III second booked for running through our technical area when they went 2-1 up ?
Why wasn’t James second booked for his heavy foul on The Kane just before our equaliser ?
Freedom of speech is lost, is it?
Seems you forgot how we won the ’66 World Cup in the Final.
Good thing VAR didn’t exist.
Yes it is possible to win without cheating, but mostly nowadays its not.
The team that wins anything always gets dodgy decisions in their favour.
Should’ve gone to Specsavers, mate.
But the corner part is spot on.
The dark arts in football are a thing. For periods in that game we got bullied. Mourinho, and now Conte are showing passion from the sideline. They’ve instilled that same passion into a number of our players. Romero & Richi are beasts. It’s been a long time since we had that bite on the pitch. McKay, Perryman, Roberts and Sandro added that steel in previous squads.
I for one want to see more of it. The day of the Alex Ferguson’s of this world saying “ It’s only Tottenham” should now be cast aside. Now it’s Tottenham they don’t t give up. It’s not that long ago we’d of lost that game and had a manager telling us he’s berry happy with the performance away from home.
Not the best performance by a long shot. But ! We kept at it and got a result. We’re doing what the good teams do.
The gayest one, at this rate.
instead of picking the team to pieces why not say it was a good result in the circumstances and we showed great character by staying in the game right to the end and scoring the equalising goal will give the team great belief and confidence going forward.
I prefer it when you say it.
I am only replying as you are at the top as I read this article.
You are of absolutely no relevance at all I’m sure HH doesn’t give a toss if you disappear (and take your friend/nutter God with you).
My grouse is that everywhere I looked before the game Spurs fans were confident of victory including me so to be outplayed and 2-1 down in the last minute is not very good.
But of course Levy lovers like you & God wont care that we were scrabbling for a point in the last minute you never see reason you just try & knock the majority who see it differently.
You can win without cheating. You can win without having to assault people off the ball… If anyone did that to me on the pitch then they’d be getting a broken nose or jaw immediately after…
This is H’s blog, and you’re patronising like a mug, get used to it, or find another one.
The same crap linesman that 15 minutes previously miscalled a corner from 2 yards away.. The ref Taylor is decent and overturned that decision from 20 yards away….. But Taylor was the wrong side for the foul. I just watched it again and Benty clearly takes out Havertz from behind…. If he did get a toe (which he didn’t) then he would have gone through the player first… The ball doesn’t change trajectory.. That’s a foul all day.
Let’s hope they can’t apply any retrospective action, because without Romero we’ll be even worse than we were today.
We should have been comprehensively beaten… we were slow all over the park, with very few of our midfield & defense actually passing the ball forward..I didn’t think it was a foul by Bentancur, but do believe Richy was interfering with play when PEH shot therefore the goal shouldn’t have stood. I expected Conte to make changes at half time, that he didnt almost cost us more goals…Richy coming on gave us the energy we were lacking throughout most of the game, it was noticeable too when perisic arrived the crossing improved but he was beaten for pace quite easily by James…speaking of which with James on a yellow I would of had Richy on the left to wind him up as opposed to playing more central. Conte will have learned a lot about the squad..
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Alternatively why don’t you ignore this website and read others?
You have got to be the most negative supporter I know! Do you ever post anything positive about our football club. Even if we had won 5 nil and played the most beautiful purest football you would still have found reason to complain.
We notoriously struggle at Chelsea and man for man Chelsea are a level up from us so for us to go there and get a point is a very very positive result even if they did dominate for huge parts of the game. We can’t match them playing purest football at the minute , they are a level up from us, so we have to find an alternative method, if that means ruffing them up a bit then so be it.
Ok the performance wasn’t great and we will need to play a lot better if we want to cement top 4 but for Christ sake Conte has only been there 5 minutes, the squad is nowhere near the finished article, there’s a hell of a long way to to go before he gets the personal in to make us true challengers.
instead of picking the team to pieces why not say it was a good result in the circumstances and we showed great character by staying in the game right to the end and scoring the equalising goal will give the team great belief and confidence going forward.
Fed up with your week in week out negative drivel, if all you are going to do is write negative sh”te why don’t you just keep it to yourself in future as it’s become rather tedious and boring.
I have no problem with the dark arts, you use every tool available to you. Bigger and wealthier clubs will do it against us, so bring it on – especially against that club. Romero rattled them prior to the goal, which got us the point.
We played really badly yesterday. Our two scorers were particularly innefective, aside from the goals, but nobody really covered themselves in glory. Flat across the pitch.
I won’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, sometimes teams play badly. However, it is a regular thing in this fixture. They have the hex over us there, like we have had recently with City.
Conte can’t control a player’s first touch and ability to move the ball quickly, but he can make changes to mitigate weaknesses. It took him an hour to change anything, when it was clear after 10 that we had massive problems with their shape. Not good enough – he wanted a squad, use it. Make that change to a back 4 at HT and you can organise the side properly, maybe we don’t concede a goal like their 2nd.
On the plus side, coming from behind twice shows a bit of character. We scored from a corner, and had the four players closest to the ball when Kane headed it – promising re the new set play coach. There is pressure on players over their place now which should get a reaction.
Now it is over, all that shows in the records is we got a good point away. So we take it and move on.
Yep I agree how many times have we been robbed or ‘ cheated’ we were owed that and some.
The angle I saw, he touched the ball anyway. We just won’t get lucky playing like that a lot. Need some more class in the middle. Dier and Davies are poor, Pierre and Bent are too similar and neither is a playmaker. WBs are dreadful.
And so we have been, many a time. With absolutely no sympathy from the media. I won’t lose any sleep over the shoe actually being on the Lilywhite foot for once.
In this calendar year we have scored more goals than Liverpool or Man City.
Also, bearing in min Chelsea were so dominant today & had SO much possession, we had 5 shots on target to their 3.
If feel like you are right about the 1st half & most of the game, but the shots on target tell me we didn’t make enough of our decent chances.
Like we do against City
We definitely have to do better in the return leg.
A last thought to leave you with, if we had the leas twice at home & only took a point, what would the media say about us?
The last 25 mins was not Spursy.
PEH (apart from the goal), Bentacur and Sessingnon very much failed their audition in midfield. Time to bring in the new blood.
Cunningham… Which one should we call ‘Fonzy’? 🤔
It was good to at least show a bit of that, but that alone will win us zilch…
I think that we should look a two aspects of the match. Firstly, at our overall performance, and secondly, at the managerial histrionics and the general petulance on the pitch.
Our overall performance was quite frankly poor. Three at the back is all very well but it depends on the strength of the wing backs. Ours are not good enough and those supporters of Royal are deluded. When you watch the first Chelsea goal, Royal is in no mans land and Son rightly gets the wrath of his manager for being absent. Conte made the right decision to sub Sessegnon but when I watched him come off the pitch, there’s an air of petulance and victimhood about him which I don’t find endearing. There have been supporters and commentators who have been waxing lyrically about him after the first game against Southampton but I have severe reservations about his character. Understandably, we ceded possession to Chelsea with the intention of catching them on the break but their pace was too much for us and Bentancur and Hojberg are not quick or skilful enough under pressure. Our ball retention was poor beyond belief and Kulu and Son were very average. Frankly, they were much the better side, and we were extremely lucky to get a point and for me there is still the same problem of ball retention, a laboured build-up, lack of pace and lack of guile in midfield. I do not understand the necessity of playing two ball winners or DMs in midfield. Kante, Jorginho and Mount were far too good for us in that area.
In respect of the antics on the pitch, it was always going to be a feisty affair, given our past history but I thought it was a foul by Bentancur on Havertz, who incidentally is a prick and Romero, who clearly has a short fuse, pulled Cucurella’s hair. Forgetting the handbag antics of Tuchel and Conte, I have never liked it when we descend into these type of antics. Having supported Spurs since 1962, I have always been a football purist and have enjoyed watching many great football teams, both league and international, but I have always disliked the antics of players like Diego Costa. There’s nothing with being hard, but cheating is a different matter. Having the right mentality is equally if not more important. I’m afraid that I am in a minority when I would prefer us to play the game in the right spirit which is naive but if you look at the last ten years, the winners of the PL have won by playing attractive and attacking football and my concern is that under Conte, we play neither.
You have to play well to win things too, you need both the mentality but also the wherewithal as a football team. Today we were outclassed for 80% of the game …
ffs – Bentacur’s tackle was nearly a minute before the goal.
Dier made the same old mistakes, giving the ball away, inviting pressure & not defending adequately enough.
Hojgberg was too easy to play around, but I understand why Conte kept last week’s team together.
But in BIG games, going forward, we have to play Bentancur with Bissouma.
Sess was not up to it against a team like Chelsea away, it’s understandable that Perisic is still a little off the pace, but that final cross for the equaliser was brilliant.
But things will be better against Wolves, will be interesting to see if Conte makes a few changes.
We lacked class today, both from a footballing perspective and with all of the other stuff. I don’t blame Conte particularly for this, we could have pressed more and been far more articulate at playing football however.
Basically we still lack quality, Conte is certainly getting the fighting spirit out of this lot but our midfield was outclassed, embarrassingly so at times. The guy is not there to polish turds, that was someone else’s job a few years ago, and look what thanks he got out of it in the end.
We have been in need of a major rebuild since the squad became stale and neglected more than 18 months before Pochettino left. That process is nowhere near complete, we haven’t replaced Dembele’s quality yet. We had to endure Winks/Sissoko for two years and for all his heart, PEH is just a decent option within the squad. The jury is still very much out on Bentacur for me too.
There’s been a lot of talk and hot air about this summer’s transfer activity. I merely regard it as essential to have the bodies and options to at least sustain last season’s levels. If improvement of the first team is what we are expecting, it looks very much like within very small increments. If that.
Chav’s midfield is on another level to ours (it pains me to say, which is why we can’t play well against them. No amount of getting in people’s faces and pulling hair like girls scrapping in the school playground will alter this…
I really just want us to win something. Don’t care how at this point.
A point is always good at our bogey team.
The manner of that point will hurt them deep.
Seems like we finally exorcised that other 2-2.
You are right, we won’t play that badly, but if we do & get a point, so be it.
The linesman explained to the ref that Bentancur toed the ball.
There is a camera angle that clearly shows it.
I love Conte. He’s a proper loon.
Need to be a lot better if we are going to challenge for trophies though. Lot of bitter Chavs about though so we really got under their skin!
A rubbish post… And you need to get yourself down to Specsavers in the morning… He never ‘gets a toe’, he was nowhere near touching the ball, the replay confirmed this! The ref was the wrong side so he couldn’t see.. The linesman should have seen it and should have called a foul…
VAR did not check it…. They only check VAR in the penalty areas. And only outside the penalty area if it’s a possible red card…… Which it wasn’t…. A yellow would have been fair though..
I thought Tuchel was a tw@t squeezing Contes hand at the end… But Conte was also naughty when we scored our first goal… He celebrated by chest bumping with Tuchel…LOL.. So this is why he did it.
Remember the days when we moaned about goals that shouldn’t be goals.
We got EXACTLY what we deserved.
Snatched a point, for once.
……& Harry, Richy [you know who he is] was waiting to nod home that equaliser if Kane was not there.
Good game… We did well to survive their bombardment first half… I enjoyed it after the subs came on.. Kudos to Conte, he made the right subs and the right tactical switch (whatever it was exactly I’m not too sure would have to watch again).
What is up with Sonny? He’s gone back to his old inconsistent self.. You know when he’s had the ball 5 times and he’s given it away every time then he has to come off, and earlier next time.. When he’s hot he’s on fire.. But when he’s not he can’t do anything right. He must be flapping and panicking mentally.
Next game I would start Perisic over Sessy… And Bissouma over Benty..
Is that the best you can do in reply? “haircut” needs tying away.
You want to win, but don’t want what cones along with it.
Hos many times as Spurs fans have we been hard done by, but you want to talk about yellow card.
You need to get used to it Harry, or find another club.
A rubbish article…..firstly Bentancur gets a toe on the ball , replays confirmed this to be the case so no idea what you were watching. Secondly , Romero was getting grappled by the Chelsea guy and to be fair he appeared to be trying to pull him out of the way and probably grabbed at whatever he could get hold of. Point is VAR checked it and saw no case to answer .As for the coaches getting red carded …..it’s called passion , no issue with this at all. You are never going to be happy Harry , whereas given our 4 losses to Chelski last year this point was like a victory in my opinion. You slated Poch for years for a lack of winning mentality and now you have issues with Conte and the mindset he appears to have instilled in the players. What exactly do you want ?
Ah, it was great to see tempers flying about. Nicked a point at the fridge which is not to be sniffed at.
… well at least he didn’t give him the infamous ‘Glasgow kiss!’
Agreed. For any younger viewer, who wants to know what ‘old school’ football was really like, watch the Chelsea vs Leeds 1970 FA Cup Final replay! This was very mild by those standards, but a feisty encounter nonetheless. As you say I am certainly enjoying the greater physical contact this season and the refs just letting the game flow.
First half we were second best all round and lucky to be still in the game. There were poor performances everywhere. But we hung on and substitutions gave us more energy and aggression. Say what you like a gutsy performance against that crowd is worth more than the point we came away with. The fact Tuchel lost the plot by criticising the match officials on top of his antics with Conte says it all really, We got right up their noses big time.
Karma as far as I’m concerned. After all the cheating and antics over the years from that horrible non-club it’s well deserved. And refs were always giving them the benefit of the doubt before VAR, as with Manure.
I remember one match in particular in the Redknapp days. Sandro scored a stunner and we were flying. Lampard hits the underside of the bar and the ball clearly hits the line yet ref rules a goal. Reminiscent of Pedro Mendes, just the complete opposite. Then later Robben dives and as per usual a pen is given and we lose. Daytime robbery.
I fecking hate Chelski more than any other club. All means necessary against them. Romero for future captain
3 match ban minimum for something like that, shoe on the other foot we’d be livid.
Wasn’t it you who used to talk about “haircuts” as an insult.
You come across a bit soft Harry for a guy that wants us to win something.
More tackles & putting ourself about in the 1st half would’ve seen us perform better.
Son & Kane were not at it enough.
Looked lie passengers.
Should’ve made much more of our opportunities on the break.
Richy coming on raised our level to the required & helped us leave with a point.
That’s exactly why we signed him.
A proper football match without being anywhere near the 70s/80s may I add. The referees have to stick to this new code. Not blowing for dives, a la Sterling is needed. This was the reason we hated VAR because slow motion diving looked like a genuine assault. Professional football had turned a lot of players cynical and into cheats. If we can rid that from the game, football will be better. I thought a few times Kane got sent flying, but he just needs to be stronger and more clever when it is tight. Kulu for the second goal was more guilty of it. Next time he’ll wait for a proper hit and not a slight tickle. Be big, be strong and stay on your feet.
In Glasgow that is a warm welcome!
I totally agree with Romero on Sideshow Bob. At every corner there was all the nonsense that generally goes on at every corner in pro football you ever see. Obviously, Romero had been pushed and shoved once too many times and he overstepped the line. It is amazing VAR didn’t intervene, but apparently it can only get involved when the ball is in play. This suggests the Prem Lg could still hand out a retrospective punishment.
As with Bentancur, the angle the ref saw saved him as he does get the ball, but from the other side he goes through his foot. I don’t see too much wrong with it. There are far worse tackles not given as fouls. A yellow would have been very harsh.
I would say there is a fine line between clever and stupid, but when it’s against those ‘CleverStupids’ I can forgive our lot. Too many times we have been bullied, but I definitely don’t want to be the bullies every game. We have to have some class, but it served Wenger’s Arsenal well for years and to win I dare say we need to see that ugly side when needed. Whether it puts our heads above the parapet is another matter. Other than Romero it was Chelsea losing their rags. Havertz was definitely losing it and Cuti handled that very well, his tackle on Havetz genuinely hurt him. The manager stuff was nonsense, instigated by Tuchel’s sour grapes each time. He was raging, but I don’t think he should have reacted the way he did for our equaliser, their second and the handshake. Conte did very little wrong and Tuchel’s behaviour was childish. He should have got a second yellow for sprinting like a Minister of Silly Walks wannabe. The fact he did that and they didn’t win makes it sweeter.
It needs to be much better in terms of performance v Wolves that is for sure.
I thought it was a bit of ‘old school’ football H! When I used to go to Spurs in the ’60’s and ’70’s this kind of full-blooded encounter was commonplace, including one or two memorable battles against Chelsea, in the early ’70’s. Then there was the epic Chelsea vs Leeds FA Cup Final in 1970. Arguably the most ‘brutal’ match in the history of English football, yet it was an epic, an unbelievable battle of wills, that people still remember to this day.
As to today’s talking points, Bentancur clearly got the ball, no yellow card and no foul. As to the hair ‘entanglement’, maybe Romero secretly always wanted to be a hairdresser and was just checking out Cucurella’s barnet! Alternatively the boy could get his bleeding hair cut! Romero does need to be careful though, he certainly has a wild streak. However, at the end of the day, we refused to lie down and got a very hard won point. I have no problem with a bit of nastiness, almost all the great teams have had it, including our own!
It was pretty low rent, we looked like we weren’t coping as well with the heat…
Having watched the replay, it resembled an assault I once witnessed in a Glasgow pub!
What I took away from Mourinho’s documentary was he said that Spurs players were “too nice sometimes” to win. I think today’s performance showed that’s no longer true. As for Romero’s hair-pulling, the camera angle–identical to that of a referee (clearly in the shot) shows the two players grappling with each other. Romero’s hand is certainly tangled in Cuccarella’s hair, but it’s not entirely clear whether he’s grasping it or trying to free his hand from the tangle. In fairness, Cuccarella’s hair is huge and ornate and anyone reasonably contesting a header with him might be accused of interfering with it. In a more civilized age, he might even be forced to trim it. Perhaps these were the thoughts going through the official’s head as he stared at this scene before declining to wave off the goal.
I was thinking the same, “put ya bloody hair up”!!
What she said….I saw a lot of pushing today giving away free kicks, hardly Brave Heart..
professional footballers shouldn’t play with hair like that. Tie it up! Bentacur had a touch on the ball F cheski!!!!