Interesting piece from F365 this morning who has tapped into an existing relationship with an unnamed Premier League footballer in an attempt to get some clarity about what the players themselves are thinking at this moment in time.
The results are explosive and yet frankly unsurprising. Much of what this player says cannot be debated. To thrown over 500 employees over for the State to pay for, to increase the burden upon the body that finds the NHS is unforgivable.
One problem defenders of big business have with the objection that they should be excluded from state aid, is that they are only availing of an offer by the state, and not manipulating the system. They’re not doing anything wrong.
In which case, change the system so organizations as ludicrously profitable as THFC cannot pass their problems onto the rest of society via a legal backdoor.
This an identical situation with tax avoidance and tax evasion. One is deemed to be shrewd, the other can win you a free stay with the Windsor Group hotel chain.
Mr & Mrs Average who have constantly been just a couple of missed pay-checks away from the kerb – they need looking after. Employees of a football club that turns over the sort of money that would make a Cartel blush – do not.
The players need to be goaded like the truculent cattle that many of them are and simply told what to do, for the good of the nation; any of them seeking to protest should engage the services of a good QC and brace themselves for the sort of publicity that is normally reserved for serial killers.
If you are at all undecided in this matter, then I urge you to read the Football365 piece.
Oh boy….and yes folks, it’s down to Levy again: –
furloughing is just the thin edge of the wedge, a lit fuse; a lever to
turn attention to player wages. The focus is now on the players and Levy and his odious ilk, can shuffle out of the spotlight and let the momentum sown reduce the club’s wage bill even further.
Wayne Rooney is not a man I’d normally go to for sage
advice, but his comments regarding the players wages and how they have been corralled into a no-win situation is spot on. He notes that the confidentiality of negotiations has not been extended to discussions of player wages and it seems obvious now that they are the lightning rods to divert harm away from others who can take shelter from the storm in the anonymity of their tax havens.
Levy has laid a trail of bacon-scented breadcrumbs for the
media dogs to follow that leads straight to the players and their wages.
Pressure from clubs on the governing bodies and public outcry at rich clubs grabbing the government’s bail-out money has been quickly deflected to the players.
It’s made them an easy target for those who can’t be bothered to grab higher hanging fruit, people who don’t think far enough to ask whether the TV pundits, who are on a pretty good quid are themselves, taking a pay cut; or for that matter the torch-carrying politicians, or the stuffed shirts at EUFA, FIFA, EPL etc.
I have no problem with the players taking a cut whilst not
playing, but it should be their call not one foisted upon them by others
manipulating public opinion/sympathy. My guess is the majority of players would
have been fine with a cut, but now it’ll be as if they were unwilling and were
MADE to take a cut rather than them being gracious enough to agree to a cut as
being something they wanted to do to contribute. Not Fair.
Was this a deliberate action on Levy’s part? Cui bono: it’s
clear to me that he rolled the first stone of the landslide and he will
directly benefit from players cutting their wages.
This isn’t just about wealthy people all being money grabbing toads. Some people are good at making money one way or another, and/or have com from circumstances that have helped them to that position etc etc.
People have had more or less than each other since the beginning of time. One man had three cows and two wives, another had 20 cows and 8 wives, another had no cows and no wives.
This is about how things balance and how they sit on the moral compass. We only have democracy because of good will, we only got rid of all kinds of social wrongs with good will. Rarely have revolutions solved anything long term, they generally replace one oppressive regime with another.
The mindset of people in business in a capitalist environment varies greatly. Some will have a moral compass and some will not, some will just have ‘less of one’ or more of one.
I mentioned in a previous post that normal people are means tested before seeking help from the state. Even people who don’t have huge savings are required to use a portion of their own money before the state contribute.
Isn’t that all we’re asking? Shouldn’t the players also pay a substantial contribution to the non playing staff, after they’ve paid tax on it in a situation?
Kane will have been advised to the hilt to keep out of this. Being England captain he cannot look to get involved. People who speak out against regimes and immerse themselves in politics do not hold positions of sporting responsibility for long and Kane will want to keep being captain. Alastair Cook kept his counsel all through the Kevin Pietersen debacle when he was being attacked daily in the media by Arsenal’s finest, Piers Morgan. The sporting hierarchy didn’t support him, but Cook’s legacy remained in tact. Do I want Kane to speak out, yes. He would be forever respected by the fans, as long as he doesn’t say what Stoke’s MacLean said! But, would he get that knighthood in 30 years time when all this will have been forgotten?
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2017/01/12/majority-people-would-support-raising-national-ins
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/budget-mansion-tax-rishi-sunak-nhs-social-care-climate-change-a9384861.html
https://www.pwc.co.uk/press-room/press-releases/public-prepared-to-pay-more-tax-for-a-better-nhs.html
Its all very well for this unnamed footballer to take that position after he has earned millions. Why didn’t he take the average living wage from day one? Having said that its hard to disagree with his sentiments. He makes a compelling argument.
Yeah most of the crowd telling NHS staff how wonderful they are won’t pay a brass farthing extra in tax so they and care workers can earn a decent wage.
You know things are dire when Andros Townsend !!! is sounding more like a statesman and more level headed than any of the the idiot Tory clownshow currently int he process of destroying your country, still gleefully plotting how to sell off portions of your NHS to their new gilded age, oligarch pals as the bodies pile up. Lovely lot those scumbag Tories, good thing you fellows elected them, I’m sure it will work out swimmingly
I see one of Tottenham’s ex great intellectuals has gone and done a whoopsy, ooh Betty.
Liverpool getting a right kicking in papers, online and on TV, Levy must be breathing a sigh of relief as he is given some much needed cover.
Don’t expect the banks and the city boys to leap forward bearing large amounts of cash.The banks themselves are railing against loaning the money from the bailout scheme because it’s on the government’s terms and not their’s and putting as many obsticles in the way as possible.
The same is happening in the US where the 4T$ baleout money is being held back if you don’t have an existing account and/or a current loan arrangement in place.
These are the same people who basically orchestrated the crash of 2008 none of whom were held to account.I don’t doubt the same people are involved in the evil profitering from this human tragedy.
Same old same old.
The big fear among the players is that they don’t want most of their wage cut going into the black holes of the clubs accounts. Somebody said that they would be gutted if Liverpool and others crying poverty now go on to drop £150 million in the summer transfer window if there is one. The players are willing to take a cut as long as it goes to the NHS, care workers, supermarket workers and delivery drivers who are also unsung heroes.
Liverpool have their own PR problems , buying out , under dubious conditions , the property surrounding Anfield . To top it all look back to Dalglish and Co holding aloft a Liverpool Shirt , at ground zero NYC . With Big Thick Smiles on their faces.
Banks ? If you owe the Bank 5 Grand, you are in trouble. If you owe the Bank 5 Million. they are in trouble .
Whilst I agree with everyone on this site that Levy is a c@@t,it’s no surprise the way he has acted in this situation.
What I find disappointing is the absolute silence from club captain Harry Kane and his fellow first team squad.They would not miss the money they could put aside to pay the non playing staff members of THFC.It would show proper leadership and would further shame Levy which is no bad thing.
Levy and Lewis are worth way more than any of the players could probably hope for yet they showed their true worth by insulting the very people who keep our club going.
No they are not alone,with three of four other owners adopting the same position,but at least with Bournemouth and Norwich they are probably already preparing for life outside the PL with their squads stripped of their better players.The real shame lays with us and Liverpool who are in the top ten richest clubs in the world.
Agreed about the tax exiles like Lewis Hamilton. At least Rooney is here. I’d like to know where his image rights income is based. Players’ wages are taxed but image rights, like Ronaldo, Messi, Jose have are based off shore. De Gea’s is in Jersey.
When I ran a small to medium size business with 150 employees the banks would nail our gonads to the desk for any financial support. Large world class business’s we dealt with would waste millions buying market share to boost shareholder values in the stock market. When we went to the City square mile for support we were given short shrift as we were not part of the Oxbridge elite and therefore not entitled into the club of privilege.It is these privileged twats that caused the meltdown in 2008 and who are still infesting the financial markets and hedge funds making obscene profits whether the market rises or falls. Levy and ENIC are just another representation of that parasitical infection of our monetary system.
Saw that, usually very shy, heard a guy on the radio yesterday describe the virus as the pangolins taking revenge on the world for being mistreated. My brother lives in Enfield and says he meets more foxes than people when he goes for a walk in the evening.
It doesn’t surprise me. The totally useless government and the Bank of England should come down hard on them.
Don’t see the bankers or CBI running to take a thirty percent cut. Footballers are just so visible and easy targets. Wayne Rooney has asked about all the Sports people who pay no tax in the UK and live in Monaco and Switzerland, they’ve gone pretty quiet. At least the players pay taxes here. Hancock didn’t call them out, and while I’m venting have any of the politicians taken a pay cut.
I have personal knowledge of one bank and it’s going out of its way to be obstructive and awkward to small businesses wanting them to jump through hoops. Though they do make lovely adverts with kids and lovely black horses.
Wildlife reclaiming the roads. Deer’s roaming romford😂
Load a “shapers out here/there. Mouth mouth mouth.
To be fair to the government, they did order the banks to scrap their dividend to shareholders in order free up money to support businesses, and individuals with cash flow problems. Whether the banks will do it is another matter. On the matter of Levy, he is a f@@@ing greedy little c@@t and any support for him and his toxic regime has evaporated, but he is not alone in this.
None of this surprises me. Rich people are a different breed. Fkng greedy w@nk€rS forever
The bulk of my critics demanded to see my face. Then they demanded I backed a really stupid regime anyway,
Now the last ones left just say I’m a monster, like that’s something to be ashamed of.
Show your face. Knock on doors, introduce yourself. Leave them with nothing but name calling.
Levy’s self interest is to make money for ENIC, ergo he’s doing his job very well. I don’t like it and I wish Levy’s self interest was to win trophies, but pretty much everyone associated with this blog knows it isn’t. This issue is much bigger than football, the Banks make much larger profits than football clubs, but where is the Government’s call to arms? After all, the public bailed these guys out after 2008.
I know no one on this blog is shocked by Levy’s behaviour, it’s par for the course. Then again what do you expect in a country where a winner takes all attitude is promoted by the politicians and their cheerleaders in the press. Entrepreneurs are what we should all aspire to be, they are up their with Mother Teresa and Mahatma Ghandhi. Well I don’t want to be a Branson or Philip Green or Mike Ashley or that other prize pr*ck James Dyson, if I get the virus please don’t put me on one of his craptastic ventilators. Levy might be a very nice person in private and generous to charities but he is in a privileged position and that brings responsibility, the responsibility to show some leadership where he doesn’t put his own selfish interests first. End of rant.
Matt Hancock, the odious weasel, was wrong to single out footballers in the manner that he did. He has friends and associates who earn far more than footballers but he kept quiet about them. We are in it together but we’re not are we, never have been? However, I am not going to feel sorry for the likes of Rooney (BBC Sport website) who has come out to say 50% of a footballers wage goes to the tax man. An EPL player on £80k a week still earns more than a teacher or nurse does in a year after tax. Wayne needs to live in the real world, the world in Croxteth where he was brought up in.
Why is he Unnamed ? Its like the people with the ENIC OUT signs having their faces covered . Stand Up And Fight , Until You Hear The Bell .