The difference between Spurs and Manchester United is currently 1 point in Spurs favour. Spurs are also still involved in the 4 competitions they entered this season. Everything else you say is speculation based on your theory that this United team are superior to the current Spurs team.
I would take Nuno over Ole all day long. I would also take Kane, Son and Moura over the United front 3. United’s defence has conceded 15 Premier League goals this season. Spurs defence has conceded 13 Premier League goals this season.
Skipp & Hojbjerg are as good if not better than United’s defensive midfielders. The only 2 United players I would want for this Spurs team are Pogba and Fernandes. We have Ndombele and Lo Celso.
Harry Hotspur says…
What we have here are two sides struggling to retain credibility, against a backdrop of poor player purchases and seemingly ever-mounting debts. The Kosher Kid is probably on the money – what do you think?!
Lol…great comment. Especially after reading all these comments below AND losing 3-0. Rad somewhere what a great ‘cv’ Nuno has!!!!
lolzzzzzzzzz
Horrible.
Not quite, it was a mutual decision.
Utd simply cant get their midfield right… we cant get any of the areas right… said at the start of the summer Utd should have got Conte in… hes top class & doesn’t take nonsense from any of his players… the likes of Pogba, etc would of been either sold or left to rot in the reserves. Utd will rue not getting him in just like Levy will rue not selling Kane. At least at Utd Ole identifies players & the board signs them… our managers identify players & levy buys who he thinks is a better fit. On current form the only player for me who gets in the Utd team from ours is PEH, and maybe Reggie… son, and kane would be on the bench & the rest are either not fit enough or good enough to claim a place with maybe exception of Romero. McTominay over Skipp all day long.
If lo no show starts we lose… I’d play the same 11 that beat Citeh & yea that means Kane on the bench…
Nunos remit is top 6… trophies dont count.. u remember when Mourinho was fired right? 🤔
It’s where Mourinho made his name by winning the Champions League.
Old skool!
nuno got the sack at Wolves too
At this level, it’s no longer a sport. It’s a business and us ‘punters’ aren’t necessarily required. Fans are just a biproduct of the top level game; background noise who pay thru the nose for crap quality products (both clothing and the football itself). At EPL level it’s no longer a working mans game. I prefer watching lower league football because those that play it there and those that watch ‘their’ teams, watch and play football as I like to see it. Passionate, physical and tribal. And the way spurs play, the quality is similar for a lot less if my hard earned cash.
Spurs are my club both tribally and in my heart, but the soul has gone. As somebody who played conference level and below, it’s much better value for emotion and money.
Perry Mason! Very funny.
And the Donna Cullen Suite etc., etc.
I remember the fuss Doug Ellis made when the Villa beat United in 1994 with a special TV programme to celebrate the event (it was within the peak period for the league cup I mention above). Smug Doug had previously been ousted and wasn’t in the chair when the midlands team won the league title and the old European Cup, as a result of which he didn’t welcome having players from those teams around the club. The man’s hubris, too, was such that he named the Witton stand after himself! It’s surely for others to award that accolade. Even Danny Boy hasn’t (yet!) named a stand after himself. Wait a minute, perhaps it could become The Daniel Levy stadium. God, what a sickening thought!
As it used to be in its first six years with lots of the best teams not even entering. Its peak period I would say was between 1966-67 (though for a few seasons more, the previous seasons’ champions and FA Cup winners didn’t enter) and 1995-96. Even during that peak period, it wasn’t on a par with the FA Cup however, something its list of winners tended to bear out. Midland teams did rather well in it, especially Forest and Villa wit four wins apiece during that 30 year period (though neither club has managed to lift the FA Cup since the fifties! And just two league titles between them since 1910!)) but had just two wins in the FA Cup during that time frame.
As a SECOND tier European competition far below the standard of the CL, the Europa is even more pointless in my eyes and…as for the conference!
Yes, indeed, Finn!
Nor can I really! Is Nuno a former Porto manager? My friend in Obidos, a Benfica fan, has previously told me that the only genuinely good Porto manager (Porto have had wealthier backers than Benfica in recent decades) was Mourinho.
Yes, it’s how i see things, too, coys1882; I would agree with everything you say in the paragraph above re Nuno and Ole. As has been suggested by many, United are essentially a team of individuals and not a collective. The sheer talent at their disposal will ensure they get some good performances and results but their lack of teamwork will do for them in the final analysis. It is surely Ole’s job to get them playing as a unit, which he has singularly failed to do so far. On a bad day, United are pretty alarming; even our soppy b…..ks of a team (perhaps promising to be somewhat less soppy under Jose) managed to win 6-1 at Old Trafford, which helps to add a touch of perspective to the Liverpool result last Sunday.
Too true, Eastie: Danny Boy would be unlikely to have survived for 20 plus years at Liverpool without at least some civil unrest. But it’s not that easy removing these b…ers: Newcastle have a pretty passionate fan base and it’s taken 14 years to see the back of Ashley…on his terms! And the Glasers have survived thus far at Man U. As for managers these days, I sometimes wonder exactly what it is they actually do that makes a difference since they have such a large entourage of helpers, extensive coaching teams (Liverpool even have a throw in coach, I ask you!). A far cry from the days of the old managerial supremos of Nicholson, Busby, Shankly, Stein etc.
Of course, the players nowadays are so pampered and often so full of their own (often inflated) sense of worth that it’s quite tricky to handle them and their inability to accept criticism. In past decades, though, managers in the UK had a big drinking culture to contend with that ideally required some surveillance. Jock Stein, for instance, had his network of spies and a former player said he would likely know where you’d been drinking the previous night and perhaps even how many you’d had! Jimmy Johnstone used to go into a pub called The Noggin and a friend of Stein’s would alert him and Jock would phone the pub, and disguising his voice, would ask to speak to the player who would get to the pone and receive a familiar “vituperative blast.Aye, get your arse out of there! (Hugh McIlvanney)
Not unique but interesting to hear your family have always followed Spurs right back to their inception. And the “proper Division one before Murdoch got his grubby hands on the game”. Quite. Television, apart from the ridiculous player salaries it has enabled, has totally distorted and unbalanced the football scene, being the catalyst that has made it far less democratic a sport.
Yes, I reckon I would take Nuno over Ole. Nuno did quite well at Wolves; Ole got the sack at Cardiff.
“we may have to fail spectacularly to rise again”
yes- its phoenix time.
I just feel you need a special skill set to get the most out of present day players. It’s an increasingly difficult job, but it also helps if they determination to win is within the club, top to bottom.
I saw Gary Neville‘s interview with Jamie Carriger recently, walking around the streets of Liverpool talking about what is expected of the football clubs, both Everton and Liverpool. They’ve both had times when things haven’t been going so well, but they’ve always had times when they’re really challenging.
They mentioned Spurs and Arsenal, not in a disrespectful way, but that “where they’ve been going over the last 10 years”. In that it just doesn’t make sense to any passionate football fan or community of fans, call it what you will.
I think HH mentioned a little while back about the Leeds Sky documentary, and the clear night and day between that, and the soulless, corporate swindle we are faced with at Spurs. In short, despite people saying we are quite close to them in some ridiculous way, Daniel Levy would not survive a club like Liverpool or Leeds for 23 years. I hate to say it, but their fans are not the well-behaved ‘client reference numbers’ that we’ve been hypnotising to being…
The point I was making was that Spurs were on an upward curve in terms of average league position finishes over the last 15 years. As I stated; Spurs are as consistent AS THEY HAVE EVER BEEN over a sustained period.
The assertion was that Spurs are in a slump which in terms of matches won is just not true.
Spurs trophy count is not good enough; I accept that. However; If you were to ask United or Arsenal supporters how they feel about their trophy wins of the last decade I think we all know what their likely response to that would be.
The domestic cups and the Europa are a consolation prize. Worth winning if your challenging for the title but meaningless and massively devalued in the modern era if you are attempting to be the best.
Spurs have no captain, are rudderless, without sails, no oars, and dragging along an anchor or 2.
they’re out there on very choppy waters hitting all sorts of flotsam and jetsam and the odd bit of large floating ice, not quite hit an iceberg yet but looking up ahead there’s a big mofo of an icecap slowly coming our way.
A slow motion crash that will sink the boat over 9 months.
As Spurs diehards, we don’t jump from sinking ships, just mourn the dead and dying and then live with the PTSD and consequences of this impending shipwreck.
I don’t care less about other clubs; but it distresses me watching this proud club go down the Swanee.
I’m over 50 years a Spurs man.
My family have attended Spurs matches since their inception in 1882.
They’re my club whether in the Sky Premier League (or the proper Division One back before Murdoch got his grubby hands on the game), or whether they’d be in the Conference/National League.
But to watch this clueless bunch of overpaid, self righteous mob play in the manner they are, is just astonishing.
Media say they can’t grasp Nunos ‘philosophy’ whatever that is.
These are professionals who have only ever had the best coaching and facilities since they were 6 years old.
Most have played in World Cup and European finals and some have won these things.
Yet they can’t grasp what a coach is (apparently) telling them???
Are they that moronic?
The other issues is the Coach hasnt a clue and is way out of his depth.
Held captive by his leader and puppet master, he doesn’t know if his rectum is punched or drilled.
No wonder the players haven’t a clue I suppose.
But even the worse teams can create chances.
Its not rocket science.
Get ball.
Retain ball.
Pass ball to player in same colours as you.
Pass it nearer to their goal than your own.
Move.
Bloody move.
Kick ball in net.
No e=mc2 there.
Its a disgrace how Spurs are where they are.
I can’t even get optimistic about it.
Numo needs to go.
Get someone in who has a bit of passion about him.
Thomas Frank looks capable.
Diego Simeone takes no crap.
Their players appear to listen to them.
Back to my boat analogy (in case you missed that’s what it was), cast aside the driftwood.
Dele, Winks, Davies, Doherty, Clarke, Gollini, Sessegnon.
Get in Sam Johnston from WBH on a free from WBH, I’d even recruit Daniel Sturridge who’s currently unemployed in as striker back up, knows how to score, will be happy to be No. 2 to Kane, played at the highest level as a temporary measure.
Im not saying that will cure all but it’s better than no sticking plaster to begin with.
More a bit of a tourniquet to stop the haemorrhaging that’s happening right now.
But the reason for KK’s blog is a pointless one I’m afraid.
Good effort but it’s a discussion for the playground not the pub.
Nuno also has a better CV than Ole, which isn’t hard, but that doesn’t really endorse Nuno either. What has he done himself?
While I agree with you broadly, we are being asked to make a choice between two poor choices. I can’t see the point…
We’ll get done by the Spammers at home in the next round, probably.
To be frank it’s a pretty unenviable choice, but for what it’s worth I would certainly take Nuno over Solskjaer! Utd have an embarrassment of riches up front and a much deeper squad than we do, yet Solskjaer, after more than two years, still can’t get a tune out of them. In fairness to Nuno, he is new to the job and factually hampered by inheriting a threadbare squad, especially a wafer thin strike force and under-performing deadwood. Notwithstanding those facts, we are still above Utd.
Yeah, but there won’t be one of Bill Nic or Jimmy…
I’m surprised the happy-clappers aren’t now out in force following our legendary squeaked 1-0 at Turf Moor!
Yet to beat anyone decent since those three opening fixtures and have looked decidedly second rate.
Cheese Royal’s cross was decent but might just be a one off against dross…
A very small one by the side of the road, at a convenient height for dogs to p*ss on!
Lucas Moura is a much better player than Ralph Coates ever was. As for your Champions League hypothesis, I am not sure that many Spurs supporters are saying that we would have won if Moura had started, however he deserved to start and tactically his pace and trickery would have been more likely to have unsettled Liverpool’s central defence than a static Harry Kane, lacking in match fitness.
This time last year, especially after the 6-1 mauling we gave Utd at Old Trafford, I would have agreed with you. However, the way Kane is playing now, no way.
A very small one by the side of the road, at a convenient height for dogs to piss on!
I reckon if we win the Mickey Mouse again for the second time in 23 years, there’ll be a statue of Levy erected outside the ground… 😂
So United’s first eleven aren’t world beaters and neither is ours, yet they have two superior players in Pogba and Fernandez?
Our manager isn’t very good and neither is Utd’s?
Why should we care about a directionless Utd? So we’re only as average as they are?
I’m not quite sure what point is actually being made here…
It is emotionally draining watching this turgid football dished up match after match. I suspect it is only continual failure that will create change at the club, Sadly we may have to fail spectacularly to rise again .
City could have used Harry today for pens lol.
He was the 2nd choice after DOF was in place, but 8th-ish for the summer. So runner up I guess for the choice after the 1/07
Depends on how the we’re in the final key ring sales are going
Well worth annihilating 100 plus years of history for…
Both plus chairman.
In quarter finals after 2 matches? #$_@ me. Used to have 2 legs in each of 4 or 5 rounds before the quarters of the league cup.
Pointless trophy now. They’ve killed it.
Setting the bar high with that. And that’s part of the issue with how levy gets away with things.
Hmmmmm, was Job a Shi-ite, ‘cos IMHO Nuno is pretty shi-te!
Maybe we can get to the final of this cup so Levy can sack him in the lead up.
Yes but PEH or Skipp at Utd would drastically improved the sum of the parts. One player wouldn’t have the same impact with us.
I actually like him.
Well, let me rephrase that, I don’t find myself getting as annoyed with him as with Aurier and Doherty, and you cant ask for more than that… can you?
We are by all accounts 1 goal better than a bang average mid table side.
It must be quite emotionally draining to always want us to fail.
Ok Daniel, and NES was really your first choice. 110 mins of open play in matches before our first shot on an opponent’s goal. (which was a sitter missed) Remind me when was the last time Burnley won a match and where are they currently in the EPL?
I’d taken Perry Mason and Bedders from Madness over this joker I have to say Jimmy
A royal assist. Well I never.
We are 6th and in the MM quarter finals.
Romero & Skipp. Keep hold of that.
We need Sunderland at home.
It looked unlikely when Davinson Sanchez was named in the starting 11 tbf.
Keep the faith. A win and a clean sheet away at Burnley on a windy October evening. Quarter finals of the Mickey Mouse. Glass half full. Happy days.
This is the sort of result that we did not need. A scrappy unconvincing 1–0 win in which Nuno will spout off and the pressure is eased on him and Levy a little. Our overall play and performance was lacking in creativity in the midfield yet again. There can be no argument that we are no more than a bang-average midtable side. Burnley are pretty awful and we did not look much better
score, then 20mins of panic and hoofball tactics…no conference, no style…whats the point anyway, we won’t win this year, not a chance..
Gollini clean sheet looking increasingly unlikely… again.
So so SO sloppy. Passing and decision making is slow, laboured and frequently wrong. Shots are hit and hope. Movement is awful.
Who is to blame: Players or coaches?
I think it’s a mirage I just saw!
110 mins of play to have one shot on goal and LoNoshow misses an open goal.
This is atrocious. Again. Romero looks a class act though to be fair.
We’ve had 68% possession. Our opponents are playing rope a dope football #DrTottenham
Wood and Barnes on for Burnley and Nuno reacts with…………zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Any takers on Ryan Mason and Ledders being in charge for the Utd game ?
I vote for straight to pens now and skip the 2H.
Imagine Dele Ali is so bad he can’t even get into this sh1t squad
Yes. Burnley? It’s a tough place to come to and carve out a result.
Here we are. Yet another 45 mins and not a single shot on goal. The author of this particular thread thinks we can beat Man U 3- 0 🤦🏼♂️
For those old enough to remember Zammo. I say to the author. Just say no !
Can see Harry blaze his into Row Z. 🤔
I think KK is a yid in a yanited household and is venting
Yes its tough, tough you know, we must improve, tough yes, tough side, yes tough.
Yes. If they are in disguise.
commentator on the stream called penalties on 20mins, wouldn’t be surprised
Devoid of creativity. It’s like watching 11 strangers having a Sunday morning kickabout in the park.
can we still bring on Lamela and Bale to help take them..
We are playing for Penalties.
45mins and not one shot on goal, That’s not one shot on goal for the last 90 mins played. That is unbelievable and we have a billion-dollar stadium. You couldn’t make this situation up. Good to see Nuno has had some time since Sunday to make a difference and has achieved zip, zero, nothing!
this talk of beating Yanited when we can’t hit a barn door against Burnley ….assume Nuno will be bringing on the big guns in the 2nd half……ohh wait….
This is like watching a training session.
41 mins match report
meat pie, sausage roll
c’mon tottenham
give us a goal
ooooh
we got a corner
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
35 min in nd no efforts on goal again ..nearly 90 min of football without a shot at goal if u include second half against west ham..its a fcuking disgrace
Hesgoal.com
Its lagging though.
Any links.
I’m with Still Nil Nil’s first sentence.
In the other thread I asked you to back up your claims by putting a £100 bet on us to beat Utd on Sat. You refused.
If you’re still here at the end of the season let’s see if Utd finish below us. I expect you to be long gone by then. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
You mentioned Utd finishing below us for 3 seasons out of 6 you forgot to mention in those same 6 seasons they’ve won the EL FA cup League cup, Charity shield. We won nothing. Hardly a point to brag about or to make any kind of point really.
How many goals did he score last season and this so far? He is a 21st century version of Ralph Coates and that’s not a good thing for younger readers.
The idea that we’d have won the EcL if he’d paid instead of Harry is the biggest myth ever.
We couldn’t muster a single shot in 45 mins against WHU and this fella thinks we can score 3 against Man U 😂
You couldn’t make it up …. actually it seems you can
So Nuno over Ole all day long was a good shout?
Yeah but we know what Dier is going to give us over the season don’t we? Don’t get me wrong; I don’t think Dier is as bad as some think he is. When he isn’t running off the pitch for a poo, fighting in the stand or giving away penalties for no reason he can look quite decent at times and make important tackles. He’s good in the air defensively too which doesn’t get mentioned that often.
Wow! Excellent comment. We could get have pep as manager and he would hardly make a difference but utd ….. I think even Nuno would make them a top 4 team.
Varane is in the same let’s just see for a bit that Romero is for me at the moment. Players can take a few months to settle like Dias did last year
But that is the truth here isn’t it? Spurs have better defensive midfield players but United have better attacking / creative midfield players. Spurs have a better front 3 but United probably have an ( ever so slightly) better back 4.
Spurs are at home against a battered United team who have just been humiliated by their biggest rivals on their own pitch. As Spurs fans we should be thinking; let’s turn the screw on them; let’s put them under pressure. Instead we are all talking about getting Nuno the sack and doctor Tottenham helping out United in their hour of need.
I can’t see the crowd allowing the players not to turn up to this game and Son and Kane are due to score a hatfull. Saturday is the day.
Son yes, Hojbjerg or skipp as one would play with Pogba, romero and Hugo are neither better or worse. Kanes attitude might improve if you sent him there though ha ha.
And Varane for Dier.
It’s possible.
Varane would get in ahead of Dier but Shaw is not my favourite player. overweight and suspect at reading the game defensively. My view is that United’s team is as unbalanced and lacking in quality, in certain areas, as Tottenham’s. A combined 11 would probably have 5 outfield players from both teams if you asked both sets of supporters. There is nothing in it.
oh & the 3-0 bit as well
what facts show us getting that scoreline?
as you say – evidence lease