Date: 5th June 2017 at 9:00am
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The Sun has decided to prominently focus upon the the fact that one of the terrorists that was shot dead on Saturday evening in London was wearing an Arsenal shirt.

Whilst it is of use to share that this person was integrated into British society and details of his former employers were given, to highlight any branded clothing he was wearing is nothing but cheap and decisive.

As a few of you have discovered on this blog, the fact that we all follow the same team bears no relation or relevance to us all getting along. Do you like spaghetti? What if you discovered that Myra Hindley did too, does that prove the fair of you had something in common? Of course not.

If this coward was a fan of a particular football team, it is utterly meaningless.

The Sun have included this information front and centre in order to add some extra zip, to sensationalise if you can believe it, people being barbarically slain in the street.

I suggest youย submit your complaint to the Independent Press Standards Organisation.

Football teams have no control over who wear their shirts, but newspaper editors do have control over what they publish.

 
Comments
  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?

  • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    Best wishes to Mabbs, legend.

    • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 1:42 pm

      What’s happened?

      • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 1:43 pm

        Chest pains, going in for heart surgery today.

  • AccringtonSpurs June 5, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    UnkleTaff
    Well the England game has been pretty pance so far. Walker-Peters has been very good (Onomah less so) and Everton have a real player in Lookman โ€” even if he does have a tendency to try and do it all himself.
    Solankeโ€™s doing his level best to justify Chelseaโ€™s decision to get rid of him.
    Nil-nil at half time.

    For anyone who doubts what Taff says, this is spot on – KWP is looking to be a very capable player. I had my doubts, but I can see him being ready to step into a full back/wing back spot soon. He’s been playing on the left, despite being right-footed, and looks extremely competent. Not outstanding/blow your socks off… just competent and skilful.

    This is in contrast to my view on Marcus Edwards, who I do not think is ready to step up to the first team.

    Onomah not great, but received an unfair dismissal.

  • UnkleTaff June 5, 2017 at 1:31 pm

    Josh Onomah’s just been sent off for a second yellow.

    Very, very harsh in my view. He trod on his opponent’s angle but there was absolutely no intent there at all.

    Poor decision.

    • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 1:37 pm

      Was it reckless Unk?

      • UnkleTaff June 5, 2017 at 1:43 pm

        Not even close. He was running with the ball, had just turned inside his opponent and accidentally trod on his ankle as he went past him.

        Ridiculous decision to book him.

        No arguments with his first yellow, though. He lost possession and fouled his opponent trying to get it back.

        • Camus June 5, 2017 at 1:51 pm

          FIFA corruption at all levels.

          • Harry Hotspur June 5, 2017 at 2:02 pm

            I’m a racist bigot who hasn’t see the challenge, and therefore I’d deport him for that.

  • TheCincinnatiYid June 5, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    Well done Nilly and Happy Birthday to FoF. Great to be on the same page as you and all our wonderful crew.

    • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 1:22 pm

      Cheers Cinci tho not sure what I’ve done to merit that lovely comment but I’ll take it!!!
      Ditto to your last bit.
      How’s tricks buddy?

      • TheCincinnatiYid June 5, 2017 at 1:28 pm

        All is well. Now a couple of Wanyamish purchases in the summer and joy is complete. Ran into a Spurs shirted gent in the market yesterday. He responded to my thumbs up with a remark about our pot-less past. Need to break the nut this year (scuse me Nutty).

        • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 1:38 pm

          Definitely

    • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 1:27 pm

      ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

  • TheCincinnatiYid June 5, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    The reporting here in the states is how the London police eliminated the three killers in 8 minutes. The video footage shows calm policeman directing scared but respectful citizens who actually listen to the cops. Big difference from here where everyone is panicked (and rightly so) because any asshole can be carrying a howitzer in his briefs. Shoot ‘ me up 24/7.

    Don’t go our way with arming to the teeth. It just makes matters worse.

    • TheCincinnatiYid June 5, 2017 at 1:20 pm

      ‘Em

  • ronwol196061๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ June 5, 2017 at 1:09 pm

    Just heard an an interview by one of the blokes that was there. The police he said made us feel safe he said..they we fantastic..London will continue being London….Still says to us all the time ‘stay safe’…Thanks Still!!!!!

    • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 1:12 pm

      I would say my pleasure but I don’t police Toronto Ron!!!

      How you doing buddy?

      • ronwol196061๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ June 5, 2017 at 1:16 pm

        You say it you me all the time!…we do feel that an attack on London is an attack on us all. Its important Still and I do appreciate,we all do,the work you do even if you put it down to a days work….

        • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 1:20 pm

          Thanks Ron, but I don’t do my job alone, there’s far better coppers than me out there.

          And what the nurses and our armed forces do are far more worthy than what we do.
          They’re amazing people.
          I know Horny is an ex US military man, but it takes a special kinda person to do what he and his brethren (US and U.K. Military) do daily in some seriously dangerous situations.
          I mean it when I say stay safe big fella

          • ronwol196061๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ June 5, 2017 at 1:26 pm

            Of course you all are on the front lines of the fight for good..I wish only our side could get on the same page its a shame a bomb has to pull us together

      • ronwol196061๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ June 5, 2017 at 1:18 pm

        BTW Rhys slept over last night..he is becoming very funny..brilliant sense of humour…really…..talking non stop these days..

        • TheCincinnatiYid June 5, 2017 at 1:21 pm

          Acorn does not fall far from the tree.

          • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 1:23 pm

            Hahaha! Nice one cinci!!!

        • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 1:21 pm

          That’s superb to hear Ron, feel like he’s part of this family on here!!!

          • ronwol196061๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ June 5, 2017 at 1:27 pm

            Of course you all are on the front lines of the fight for good..I wish only our side could get on the same page its a shame a bomb has to pull us together๐Ÿ˜ŠThanks Guys from me and him!!!!!

            • ronwol196061๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ June 5, 2017 at 1:28 pm

              Sorry two messages got stuck together
              Thanks Guys from me and him!!!

  • UnkleTaff June 5, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    Well the England game has been pretty pance so far. Walker-Peters has been very good (Onomah less so) and Everton have a real player in Lookman — even if he does have a tendency to try and do it all himself.

    Solanke’s doing his level best to justify Chelsea’s decision to get rid of him.

    Nil-nil at half time.

    • UnkleTaff June 5, 2017 at 1:05 pm

      Solanke scores two minutes into the second half.

      Still got it.

      • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 1:08 pm

        Hahaha. He got the Unk anti-curse treatment!!

      • MysteriousStranger June 5, 2017 at 1:10 pm

        We can always rely on you, Taff. Who needs one of these? ๐Ÿ”ฎ ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    Happy FoFtyieth birthday FoFty (see what I did there? See? Did you see?)

    • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 12:59 pm

      Thanking you kindly sir!

      • ronwol196061๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ June 5, 2017 at 1:05 pm

        Yes Happy Birthday FoF!!!!!
        Havea good one

        • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 1:08 pm

          Tanks Ronald!

          • ronwol196061๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ June 5, 2017 at 1:11 pm

            Jeepers Big K

          • MysteriousStranger June 5, 2017 at 1:15 pm

            Si, feliz cumpleaรฑos para miรฉrcoles, FoFty!

            • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 1:23 pm

              : )

  • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    https://youtu.be/EnaNj3NHovU

    Theresa May telling the Police Federation there are no real problems with her cutbacks in 2015.

    • Matt June 5, 2017 at 9:19 pm

      Personally don’t believe there are problems with the police cuts, particularly back then as crime was down despite cuts. People are using these recent events to make this political point, but investment in counter-terror police is an area which not been cut. Also, I think the police response shows they operate fine, if not superbly well, despite the cuts (which had begun in 2010 when we had no money and policing was in a total mess). I don’t want extra “Bobbies on the beat” – I don’t want to get hassled by coppers as I step out my front door as they have arrest quotas to meet like I used to. Most people where I live don’t trust coppers and, rather than approach a community officer, they’ll step back. We have community workers who do that job very effectively now and work as a bridge between community and police. Too many cooks spoil the broth, as they say. I don’t agree with May on much, but this is one thing I am set on. Please, no extra coppers wondering aimlessly around our streets. They antagonize more than they help, & they cost a fortune. Quality, not quantity.

      • Harry Hotspur June 5, 2017 at 9:25 pm

        Fancy bringing a twat to a knife fight.

  • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 12:32 pm

    Theresa May says “enough is enough”.

    Is she going to restore control orders, which she abolished? Or the 22,000 cut in police officers, perhaps? Or the cuts she pushed through in the Border Force which checks people leaving and entering the UK? Or the privatisation of the probation service, which is in melt down (many may not know this, but community service work is being avoided by offenders because there is no longer sufficient supervision.) She has presided over a general failure to maintain the strength of law and order.

    The woman has no shame.

    • Camus June 5, 2017 at 12:43 pm

      JC has called on TM to resign over her record on police cuts and funding.

      • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 12:48 pm

        As I said, this woman has no shame.

    • Harry Hotspur June 5, 2017 at 1:11 pm

      She’s empty that woman, fucking empty.

      • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 1:14 pm

        Then let’s fill her up… er in!

      • baz June 5, 2017 at 2:15 pm

        Perfect summary of her, ‘Empty’.

  • ๐Ÿ’‹ June 5, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    Freund or Foe
    Well I had a better weekend than you, no doubt! Bit of a surprise birthday BBQ with all my besties on Saturday night, then a freebie round of golf on Sunday, first one since January!! We need to organise a summer get together, I`ll miss all you chaps far too much to wait until the season starts again. Maybe another session on the Thames? That were bloody brilliant.

    ALL your besties? Hmm, I see. Happy birthday. I s’pose.

    • Sexy Beast June 5, 2017 at 12:17 pm

      Is it your birthday FoF? ๐ŸŽ‚๐Ÿป๐ŸŒ๏ธโ€โ™€๏ธ

      • Sexy Beast June 5, 2017 at 12:19 pm

        If one of them Gooner Jihadi’s had sliced you clean in half how many rings would we have seen? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

        • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 12:20 pm

          A portion of onion rings and a generous helping of Calamari!

      • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 12:19 pm

        Not until Wednesday dude. Naughty @ forty.

        • Sexy Beast June 5, 2017 at 12:20 pm

          Baby ๐Ÿ‘ถ ๐Ÿผ

          • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 12:21 pm

            That`s why I like you guys so much. Make me feel like a teenager!!

            • Sexy Beast June 5, 2017 at 12:22 pm

              Easy

        • Sexy Beast June 5, 2017 at 12:23 pm

          Basildons finest were awesome btw

          • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 12:28 pm

            My dear old Nan`s hairdresser was Fletch`s sister. She still is, no doubt, his sister.
            I move in the right circles.

    • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      Soz. *some of my besties

    • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      You revealed one of the terrorists was a Gooner, as I recall.

      Thoughts?

  • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    Just now on the Daily Politics, it was revealed 5 terrorist plots have been thwarted between the Manchester bomb and Saturday.

  • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    Still Nil Nil
    On borough (i.e. usual 999 policing) the yoot try desperately to wind you up.
    If you are somebody who reacts to this kind of provocation, then having a gun on you could be disastrous.

    Thanks Nilly. I asked as the subject was bring discussed on the radio, I was brought up to admire our police, even more so because they didn’t carry lethal weapons.

    • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 12:10 pm

      *being.

    • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 12:51 pm

      Thanks Glos

  • UnkleTaff June 5, 2017 at 11:58 am

    England v Mexico U20 QF stream if anyone’s interested:

    http://www.yalla.pw/mexico-vs-england-u-20-fifa-world-cup-hd-live-streaming

    Onomah and Walker-Peters both start for England.

  • Dublin Yid June 5, 2017 at 11:53 am

    What a poxy headline it’s a wonder they didn’t say that the cans tied to him were provided by Heinz…twat rag…

  • caveman June 5, 2017 at 11:49 am

    What more can be said about the extremists or the Sun. They’re well matched.

  • ronwol196061 June 5, 2017 at 11:37 am

    There are too many newspapers or rags in London.Thats the problem. On a world level it seems that have 10 newspapers to the one ot two of any of the other capitals.

  • Scarface June 5, 2017 at 11:35 am

    Trust the Sun to find a supposed football angle. What a wanker rag. Seriously when are print media going to be accountable. If the Arse want to sue………..go for it. Idiots don’t understand that headlines such as above creates stigmas that will last a life time. Irrespective who’s shirt this piece of shit fucker was wearing, and I tip my hat to the police in shooting these fuckers rather than capture and spend a shit load of money keeping them alive, it is irresponsible slander to the club itself. As Sexy Beast below put it “I wouldn’t wipe my Arse with the Sun”

  • Sexy Beast June 5, 2017 at 11:26 am

    richspurs
    Good morning all n sundry. Good ol Sun. Shining out od someoneโ€™s bum, in my opinion. On another note, Qatar, receiving the cold shoulder for alleged terror links by four fellow Arab states in the region. Seems like the some sense of acknowlegement n responsibility starting to do the rounds there.

    Two things, who actually buys the Sun and isn’t the World Cup in Qatar in 5 years?
    Second but will bit a tad tricky…….
    Ps, I wouldn’t wipe my Arsenal with the Sun ๐Ÿ˜‚

    • ronwol196061๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ June 5, 2017 at 11:56 am

      The Qatar story is big. Saudi is really squeezed right now. They have backed their extreme wings of wahabism and its jammed them into corner and Qatar seems to be cosying up to the Iranians.
      This divide is very iffy for the WC. Saudis seem to be playing the card for the Qatari’s to be pulled back in.

  • Bengbu Boy June 5, 2017 at 11:17 am

    Well said

  • Gus June 5, 2017 at 11:15 am

    Still Nil Nil
    On borough (i.e. usual 999 policing) the yoot try desperately to wind you up.
    If you are somebody who reacts to this kind of provocation, then having a gun on you could be disastrous.

    Cops in the US doesn’t make the streets any safer, probably quite the opposite. I’d imagine policing without a firearm forces you to reason out situarions

    • UnkleTaff June 5, 2017 at 11:18 am

      Isn’t there also the argument that if all the police are armed you run the risk of having more villains follow suit?

  • Rhyle June 5, 2017 at 11:10 am

    Well..as a Gooner I wasn’t expecting that at all. Well played fella.

    These actions transcend everything else – the only things we should place any importance on are those who lost their lives or were injured, those who acted to save, help and end this travesty…and how we as a country were not in a better position to prevent it happening.

    As for the Sun? Haven’t bought it for many, many years – as soon as I was interested enough to look beyond the headlines, spent time to understand what they’d actually done in the aftermath of Hillsborough and how their owner is motivated by greed and selfishness (something I can currently relate to…but that’s another matter!). It’s not worth the paper it’s printed on.

    If there’s one thing we can all agree on…these events are not and should never be an opportunity to score points and have zip to do with football or where you live.

    • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 11:26 am

      This.

  • Double A June 5, 2017 at 10:43 am

    Scum rag, it should be held to account for frankly inappropriate, unnecessary and potentially inflammatory commentary on what is a desperate set of circumstances, Shameful!

  • BERNARD June 5, 2017 at 10:42 am

    as much as i dislike arsenal this headline is a disgrace if i was a gooner i would stop buying the sun newspaper in protest another case of gutter press C.O.Y.S

    • BonySpur June 5, 2017 at 10:58 am

      You don’t need to be a gooner to stop buying the sun, injustice is injustice regardless of whether it’s aimed at you or not.

  • richspurs June 5, 2017 at 10:36 am

    Good morning all n sundry. Good ol Sun. Shining out od someone’s bum, in my opinion. On another note, Qatar, receiving the cold shoulder for alleged terror links by four fellow Arab states in the region. Seems like the some sense of acknowlegement n responsibility starting to do the rounds there.

  • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 10:25 am

    Disgusting behaviour, but nothing out the ordinary for The Sun. I wouldn`t use it to wipe my ass.

  • Camus June 5, 2017 at 10:25 am

    BBC say “Police know identity of London attackers.” Their names will be released “as soon as possible”.

    Thank you, BBC. I cannot rest easy until I know their names and back-stories. Looking forward to reading about them over the next few days.

  • Frontwheel 2 June 5, 2017 at 10:18 am

    Still,I’m glad he wasn’t wearing a Tottenham top.

    • LingLongMan ๐Ÿšฏ June 5, 2017 at 10:19 am

      Yep.

    • Aussie in Switzerland June 5, 2017 at 10:58 am

      Not too many Muslims want to be associated with the “Jewish” club apparently

    • MysteriousStranger June 5, 2017 at 11:15 am

      There’s your bonus for us being quite mediocre for the past 25 years compared to the Gooners.

  • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:54 am

    Still Nil Nil
    The media have the same moral standing as any terrorist group in my opinion.
    Iโ€™m not saying they are terrorists or jihadists, Iโ€™m just referring to their morals, respect of which they have none.
    They have responsibilities and very often donโ€™t just tippy toe over the line in the sand that should not be crossed, but rub it out and keep going til beyond where the desert ends.
    Scumbags.

    Reminds me of the coverage when the Ruskis shot down the Malaysian Airlines flight over the Ukraine. TV networks and media outlets broadcast pictures and footage going through victims’ belongings and debris. They are among the lowest kind of scum

    • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 10:31 am

      Great example Gus

      • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 10:35 am

        Are you ok mate? Was you on duty?

        • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 10:39 am

          I was but when it happened was st West Ham’s ground as their was s concert there.
          Got diverted to London Bridge
          I’m ok thanks buddy.
          You?

          • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 10:43 am

            All good thanks. I bet you`re bloody knackered, an allnighter I assume?

            • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 11:39 am

              Oh yes!
              But it is what it is FoFty.
              Working an extra few hours is nothing compared to what everybody, public and police alike had to deal with
              You ok gorgeous?

              • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 11:50 am

                Well I had a better weekend than you, no doubt! Bit of a surprise birthday BBQ with all my besties on Saturday night, then a freebie round of golf on Sunday, first one since January!! We need to organise a summer get together, I`ll miss all you chaps far too much to wait until the season starts again. Maybe another session on the Thames? That were bloody brilliant.

                • Horndog June 5, 2017 at 12:04 pm

                  Yes it were!

                  • Freund or Foe June 5, 2017 at 12:30 pm

                    My memories were a mixture of pleasure and pain! Just the way I like it : )

  • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:48 am

    The Sun has also defied the police request NOT to reveal the identities of the bombers, to potentially hinder their enquiries.

    Its about time the editor and a few others were given a court appearance to explain to a judge their behaviour.

    • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:50 am

      Some community service wouldn’t go amiss.

      • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:57 am

        Firing squad?

  • TomSpur June 5, 2017 at 9:47 am

    They just reported a fact. Get over yourself.

    • Blanchflower June 5, 2017 at 10:05 am

      Your a tool. There, so have I.

      • Harry Hotspur June 5, 2017 at 10:12 am

        What an extraordinary comment from Tom. Presumably he’s 18 and has Fighting Cock stickers on his wardrobe door.

        • BonySpur June 5, 2017 at 10:55 am

          Usually you publish a lot of rubbish Harry, but I’m definitely in agreement with you on the points you raise in this article (including your points about Tom).

          • Harry Hotspur June 5, 2017 at 11:18 am

            No I don’t usually publish a lot of rubbish.

            ****s like you want an echo chamber for your shitty happy thoughts and I refuse to provide one.

  • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:34 am

    Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:31 am

    He and his family shuttled between Manchester and Libya it seems. Makes you wonder if its still too easy to frequent suspect areas.

    Exit visas are the way to start. It seems too easy for these guys to move back and forth. Of course it doesn’t stop them going to a neighbouring country and crossing over but you have to do something

  • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 9:32 am

    The media have the same moral standing as any terrorist group in my opinion.
    I’m not saying they are terrorists or jihadists, I’m just referring to their morals, respect of which they have none.
    They have responsibilities and very often don’t just tippy toe over the line in the sand that should not be crossed, but rub it out and keep going til beyond where the desert ends.
    Scumbags.

    • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:32 am

      Hope you are doing OK mate. Hats off to the response time of your guys

      • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 9:34 am

        Hi gus, I’m good thanks buddy.
        Just tired!
        Yeah they did well didn’t they.

        • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:37 am

          I understand the SAS are on standby with the Met, and were there within minutes too.

          This incident adds to pressure to routinely issue police officers with side arms. Could the injured officer have stopped them with a gun, or does that just up the ante?

          • Shockedspurs June 5, 2017 at 9:45 am

            The injured policeman, fought for his life with nothing more than his baton(stick) against three, it’s a joke!
            Arm all police in London or busy areas, there’s been some real heroes, let’s see how many get knighted, none but no doubt beckhsm will get his soon, the people of Britain are soft,

            • baz June 5, 2017 at 9:49 am

              Definitly, it’s time to arm much more of our officers. But I’ve seen a few that I would not want anywhere near a firearm

          • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 10:30 am

            Problem is with saying police should be routinely armed is the officers themselves.
            99% are very decent people who work damn hard and put the job before anything else including their own lives. Sounds extreme but it’s true. Where others run from things, the emergency services run towards it.
            However, the other 1% or so I wouldn’t trust with a pen. Some of the shit they write with regard to reporting crime is unreal. It’s laziness. Can’t be arsed to do a proper job. And as the Met are trying to recruit particularly from local communities from within London, which is very admiral in its thinking, the 20 something generation who now are growing up in inner london and speak like a mixture of yardie and bullshit and have no respect for themselves let alone others, is becoming a nightmare for those of us who have been brought up with different morals and have to work along side them.
            When I joined, if you didn’t do as you were told by your peers, your life was made hell.
            But you soon learnt that the reasoning behind it is that the police is a disciplined service, basically the army in civvy street. You get disciplined exactly the same as you have to take ‘lawful’ orders. Failure to do this can lead to discipline as well as prosecution and the last place you want to end up as a copper is a prison cell.
            But the attitude from the new breed towards even us their colleagues is reflective of the streets which scares those of us that have to work with them.
            The police are losing officers.
            But not just any officers.
            It’s the experienced ones that are leaving not the ‘new breed’.
            The reasoning is that the ‘Job’ as its called by officers is letting down the rank and file.
            Police works mainly on goodwill of the officers involved.
            I can’t remember the last time I finished on time, but the first half hour of any overtime is unpaid. But if youve reports to complete, or stuck on a crime scene or hospital guard you can’t just say ‘well I’m due off now, I’m going, I’ll finish that tomorrow’ you have to stay and finish the job.
            The new breed despise this and challenge it and moan like fuck about it.
            When I joined if you were stuck on a crime scene for 12 hours in the pissing rain without so much as a piss break or cup of tea you just got on with it.
            Nowadays, the new breed are on the radio every 30 minutes demanding a break and for somebody else to take over from them.
            Yes nobody forces us to do the job, it is a choice, but when you’ve done it for so long, it becomes you, it becomes part of you, you take ownership of the warrant card you hold and the responsibilities that come with it, the thin blue line between trying to keep the public safe and anarchy.
            But the new breed don’t have this attitude.
            It’s a generation thing.
            One brand new Pc said to me last week ‘I love wearing this uniform’ which initially made me feel that this guy is gonna say something that will make me feel that maybe the job is going in the right direction.
            Then the next comment made my heart sink.
            ‘Because it gives me the power to do what I like and the power to hit people’.
            This made me angry.
            It took me something not to grab this upstart by the throat and drag him around the car park.
            In short I had to deal with this little cunt and take him to supervisors to get this dealt with,
            He’s in the process of being kicked out and rightly so.
            Yes we use force, but it has to be reasonable and justified and rightly so.
            Twats like him give us a very bad name.
            But that’s rare thankfully.
            However on a lower scale, this is indicative of what’s coming through from people being employed from inner London.
            That’s one of the reasons experienced officers are leaving in their droves.
            The process to become a firearms officer is stringent and very testing.
            It tests your mental state of mind, your ability to carry a firearm to see you’re not somebody who gets angry, or agitated quickly and that you are a calm methodical person who will only pull the trigger if it’s absolutely necessary and not somebody who if somebody pisses you off, you don’t grab the guns and go all ‘columbine’ with it.
            As good as the vast majority of officers are and I’m proud to work with them, I wouldn’t trust them with a firearm.
            Just giving guns out would be reckless dangerous and careless in the extreme.
            You have to prove you are capable of the responsibility of carrying a firearm.
            And the consequences of pulling the trigger on somebody which may well kill them.
            The mentality of any of the perpetrators of the last few terrorist incidents to just kill people is something no right minded person can comprehend.
            But as a police officer carrying a firearm you are not a person who joins up to kill people cos you have a hunger to end life, you do it because the day may come that for the right reasons will shoot somebody.
            You are trained to shoot to stop not shoot to kill.
            The fact you aim for the centre body mass because it’s the largest target to hit as trying to hit an arm or leg especially if the suspect is running is nigh on impossible to do.
            The problem is inside the centre body mass are the vital organs which are likely to get hit.
            But there’s no other option.
            But to shoot somebody when you are not a cold blooded killer but a genuinely honest person trying to prevent the public, your colleagues and yourselves from getting seriously hurt or killed takes a special mindset.
            Only around a quarter of the police would have that kind of mindset.
            It’s a huge responsibility.
            Of that quarter. Only a few would pass the stringent criteria to qualify as a firearms officer.
            That’s why police should not be routinely armed.
            Not because police shouldn’t.
            It’s because of the mindset of us as people in the U.K.
            It’s different abroad, people grow up with guns.
            We don’t.
            Hence the different mentality of people when they join the police here.

            • UnkleTaff June 5, 2017 at 10:44 am

              Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, Nilly.

              I’ve been disturbed by the number of people on here who have knee-jerked themselves into an “all police should be armed” stance. You make a most compelling case exactly why we should not go down this route.

              • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 10:51 am

                Thanks Unk, that’s very much appreciated.
                Your right, it’s an easy and understandable reaction but a bit knee jerk.
                It’s not as simple as maybe it seems.
                Thanks again for that dental link the other day buddy.

              • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 10:55 am

                On borough (i.e. usual 999 policing) the yoot try desperately to wind you up.
                If you are somebody who reacts to this kind of provocation, then having a gun on you could be disastrous.

                • UnkleTaff June 5, 2017 at 11:16 am

                  Saturday night.

                  Bunch of pissed-up kids.

                  What could possibly go wrong … ?

                  • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 11:24 am

                    Ha yeah what could go wrong?!

            • SpurAndy ๐Ÿ’ฯ€ June 5, 2017 at 10:49 am

              An excellent, coherent and logical explanation of the realities of real life policing Nilly. As opposed to the gung ho, arm everyone view that comes from having seen too many TV shows.

              • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 10:51 am

                Cheers Andy.

            • Longtime lurker June 5, 2017 at 10:53 am

              Really interesting reading – thank you for taking the time to write this, and for the work you do.

              • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 11:26 am

                Thanks LL, very kind buddy much appreciated

            • Bruxie June 5, 2017 at 10:54 am

              Keep at it…please!

              We need you and others like you.

              Thank you!

              • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 10:58 am

                Thanks Bruxie.
                I am a mere drop in the ocean , so what I do is a very minuscule proportion of what my colleagues do, those officers the other day were magnificent inc the unarmed copper who got stabbed.
                But there’s a lot of good people who aren’t police who more than did their bit before police action who did the right thing without protective vests or batons or guns.
                That’s brave.

                • 89Spurs ๐Ÿ‘ June 5, 2017 at 11:00 am

                  Great read pal, even the wife had a read, heart goes with you, keep it up.

                  • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 11:25 am

                    Thanks 89, hope you’re both well

            • cydtheyid June 5, 2017 at 11:00 am

              Really interesting insightful read. Thanks. Reassuring and deeply concerning in equal measures. Keep up the good work Sir and stay safe.

              • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 11:26 am

                Thanks Cyd, yeah you’re right there buddy.
                Thank you matey

            • MysteriousStranger June 5, 2017 at 11:10 am

              Massive respect Nilly. Glad you’re OK.

              • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 11:31 am

                Thanks MS, thanks very kind.
                But more importantly, how’s you and your health buddy? Any news on a date yet?

                • MysteriousStranger June 5, 2017 at 11:52 am

                  I’m good thanks. End of this week barring any unforeseen changes. ๐Ÿคž

            • Horndog June 5, 2017 at 11:21 am

              Nilly when you take the time to re-open our eyes to the reality of life in the line of duty, you are providing an additional massive enlightenment to our lives. Nothing the most respect my friend. You are an inspiration and a damn good writer as well.

              • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 11:35 am

                Hi horny.
                That’s very generous of you buddy, you’re far too kind as usual!
                You seem to forget what you did which was far more impressive than anything I’ve ever done, and I’m in awe of you.
                I’m really hoping within the next 5 years to get over to the US for the very first time, so it would be lovely to meet you on your home turf if you’re ever up for that?
                Ron too, could try and get there for his 150th!!!
                Hope you and your lovely family are well big guy.

                • Horndog June 5, 2017 at 11:40 am

                  Nilly, If you get here, I shall come, wherever and whenever.

                  • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 11:41 am

                    That would make my trip buying you a beer over there

            • ronwol196061 June 5, 2017 at 11:42 am

              Thanks Nilly have cut and paste this to read later

            • baz June 5, 2017 at 12:01 pm

              Thank you Nilly I really felt what you said there.

              • Still Nil Nil June 5, 2017 at 12:32 pm

                Thanks Baz, that’s very kind buddy

  • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:31 am

    Trump wants a travel ban. Fat lot of use that is when all of the cowards from the US and UK have been homegrown 2nd generation. The UK should install exit visas to certain countries. You better have a good reason to want to travel there

    • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:39 am

      Seems only sensible.

  • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:29 am

    My wife, who has been on these ‘Prevent’ courses recently, said the Manchester bomber ticked all the boxes. She questions what use Prevent is, if he was not intercepted when known.

  • Blue June 5, 2017 at 9:22 am

    At times I disagree with you HH, but on this you’re 100% bang on the money.

    Thanks for the link. REPORTED.

  • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:21 am

    Just a thought, the fact that both Man City and Arsenal have strong links with Middle Eastern shit hole dictatorships have an attraction for these disaffected crazies?

    • A waddle and a fork June 5, 2017 at 9:24 am

      No it’s to do with the fact that Arse won loads of stuff under Wenger. He was probably of the age. There was a time where he probably watched football and wasn’t mentally mangled.

      • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:28 am

        Just like lots of the fuckers wear Chelski shirts now. Even these facktards like winners

        • baz June 5, 2017 at 9:36 am

          Agreed waddle, I know these three brothers; the oldest supports Liverpool; the middle supports Man U and the youngest Arsenal.

          I am trully amazed at some of my new to the country friends who are claiming chelsea at the moment. They are totally unaware of the greeting they would have recieved if they attempted to go to a game a few decades ago.

          • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:42 am

            You’re telling me! Going to the Bridge in the 70s was taking your life in your hands.

  • Reality check June 5, 2017 at 9:20 am

    Nice to see spurs’ fans showing some class. Arsenal fan

    • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:32 am

      We can poke fun at each other all we like during the season. But this is real life, there is no red and blue as far as I am concerned

  • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:18 am

    It’s the Sun.

    No surprises about their despicable behaviour, I feel besmirched even accidentally looking at a copy in the newsagent.

    • baz June 5, 2017 at 9:19 am

      YEAH!

    • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:19 am

      All over the world the bar of decency has dropped to an appalling level. Everything has to be sensationalized, everything has to have a spin or angle on it. The papers are more like TMZ than the BBC these days

  • Camus June 5, 2017 at 9:06 am

    I’m truly staggered that there is not more censorship on what the papers are allowed to run with.

    • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:07 am

      Not censorship, a bit of common fucking decency and editorial restraint, how about that?

      • Camus June 5, 2017 at 9:10 am

        Sure, it would be nice but what chance is there of that? They have no sense of decency and exercise no restraint as we can clearly see from this example.

        • baz June 5, 2017 at 9:18 am

          It’s the sun, what else do you expect from that thing. The most popular rag in the country. People need to stop buying that shyt

          • 61SpursNut๐ŸŒฐ June 5, 2017 at 9:35 am

            I stopped buying it in the 80s. It didn’t fucking work.

            • baz June 5, 2017 at 9:39 am

              I’ve noticed a few of sun readers switching to the star but I think that was due to economics

    • Harry Hotspur June 5, 2017 at 9:15 am

      The fact that KFC and Topshop were mentioned was also unnecessary, but they specifically mentioned Arsenal to create something that didn’t exist.

  • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:06 am

    The Manchester shit bag was a citeh fan. So they said. These guys are ersatz fans, probably bought his shirt in a market in the ME

    • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:19 am

      Very true.

    • A waddle and a fork June 5, 2017 at 9:26 am

      These are local lads born in UK not ME operatives

      • gus June 5, 2017 at 9:29 am

        Yeah but they could have bought a shirt in the market on their way to training in Libya/Syria/Iraq

      • Gloster1861 June 5, 2017 at 9:31 am

        He and his family shuttled between Manchester and Libya it seems. Makes you wonder if its still too easy to frequent suspect areas.

  • A_Felching June 5, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Wrong’ns but what do you do, Mrs May has fucked up big time