It’s no secret that Tottenham Hotspur Football Club were against the £30 price cap for away fans in the Premier League.
This was already in the public domain.
The social misfits at the THST (Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust) who had already noisily wet the bed over this issue some good time ago.
Primarily this was because it denied them the opportunity to add the deal to their list of spurious ‘achievements’…
So the contents of the leak at least, came as no surprise.
The ‘context is everything’ mantra is something I would ensure every schoolchild in the country learned and understood as if it were the Lord’s prayer.
Of course it’s easy to brand a cheapskate as a cheapskate, but on this occasion, I’d be interested in hearing a more nuanced explanation from young Daniel.
Does he ‘personally’ hate it because it means he’s losing a few quid on match day? Or does he ‘personally’ hate it because it’s not a solution?
My guess is that it’s a bit of both.
One, it straightforwardly opens the gates to discounting tickets. Which is something Levy fundamentally doesn’t understand, so his ‘hate’ is a natural response.
Two, away ticket pricing almost neither here nor there.
Know your customer.
Away fans are a different breed, and if anything you could subject them to a modest price hike and you still wouldn’t put them off.
And this is the interesting bit.
Away fans are a pivotal element of the match-day experience. Thanks to the Internet, humans have discovered the comfort of echo chambers, but at a football match, the absence of opponent supporters makes for a lesser atmosphere.
Levy’s preferred strategy would be to get a third party to offer a discount. So if the railway company or the coach company was interested in some extra business, then this could allow them to run a Premier League endorsed special offer.
After all, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but if you want to travel by train anywhere in the UK these days for more than a couple of hours, it will routinely cost you about £100.
What’s interesting, or perhaps curious is a better word, is that Levy doesn’t understand that for the OVERWHELMING majority of fans who DO NOT attend games, but watch on TV, the atmosphere is just as important.
Gate receipts have become increasingly less relevant for about a decade. The real money is in broadcasting rights and player trading.
I have extremely severe doubts about the torturous business of flogging fans overpriced food, drink and merchandise – in the flesh.
In case anyone hadn’t noticed, conventional retail is dying on its arse, pubs and restaurants are all in decline.
More people are not just shopping online, but almost eating online, getting recipes ingredients delivered to their door either by a supermarket or by bespoke menu companies.
These aren’t fads, this is the future.
Levy unveiling the biggest retail space of any football club in Europe makes me wince. I’d be more impressed to hear he’d bought shares in production facility in China as well as a distribution network in the UK.
So beat Levy up, by all means. But not over this. There are far darker, indeed, far dafter strategies at work.
Marxist McDonut
*have turned up
15-0. There’s obviously something going on with the opposition.
Let’s hope so. A McDonut/Corblimey government would be a disaster of 1970’s proportions.
Not what the fans over there think…
Saw the scoreline. It’s a shame we only have a semi-professional team. The only world cup trophies I get to enjoy is with the womans usa team. The men are unfortunately garbage (good showing in brazil). But we do have hope……then pulisic went to chelsea.
Kill me now??????
It’s a joy to behold.
Marcus. Keep it up son.
Unpaid wages dated back to September. There really are some scum involved in football club owning nowadays.
Your more space = more people is childishly simplistic.
Did it ever occur to you why nobody else followed this model?
You and Levy are trapped in the 1980s.
Enjoy your half time pint. I’m sure it will transform your match day experience.
I appreciate you’re confused and angry, but I didn’t cause this. An investment company did.
A long bar and a big shop. The high life.
This all puts that tosser Bill Nicholson into perspective, eh? Double winner. Stupid old goat should have been focused on where the real success lies, eh?
14-0. The other team must not available turned up like in Billy the Fish….
They also named a 19 year old as coach for the match. Bonkers.
*expect
2022. Can see the story now. “Will Marcus ed2wards madrid? The Champions league winner with TOTTENHAM said on tappa tv “who wouldn’t wanna be linked with massive massive club like madrid” its means I’m doing something right. I’m very happy here.
I hate these long gaps between matches, never think it suits us, we always seem to do better when they come thick and fast, regardless of the injury situation etc. I expect a tough day out at Turf Moor.
Have we bought anyone yet?
🤣
I wonder how much it costs at the door to watch qpr play nowadays and why aint an oil man buying charlton
I never thought I would hear such blasphemous words Harold – you agree with Levy – I will let my eggs go cold and ponder
Edwards scored for Excelsior……the new Messi.
Not sure what the rationale is for levy’s opposition, but imo it would be much better to dramatically reduce prices for younger Spurs fans in home sections than to subsidise various racists in the away end making hissing noises. Whether that is levy’s intention is of course an open question..
Levy has done some good. He has recently given my mates son (whos a bit of a vagabond) a kitchen porters job at the new stadium. £10.55 an hour. Can see a change in his attitude already. He’s a bright street wise boy who was raised in a loving house hold. The streets nearly had him. I expected him to be running the porters soon. He’s a leader. The youts just need legal opportunities Do not underestimate how bright some of them are. Most of them have never been caught and have been a bit “naughty” for ages and that aint easy. They also realize that the good “gyal dem” check for man wid jobs. 🙂 🙂
Nobody cared about away fans when their money counted for something, let alone now, when even they don’t really care if it’s £30 or £40, because they’ll go anyway – just with 1 or 2 more or fewer tenners in their pocket.
Also, which part of a large retail outlet at an event arena/tourist trap don’t you get? Did you ever try to buy something from the main shop @ WHL on a matchday? It was a horror show, & I’m sure the club is well aware that as well as the regular supporters there are thousands of national & international tourist fans at every game with money to spend, & they can’t fill their bags quick enough … the customers or the club. More space = more people = more sales, & even places like cathedrals & Anne Frank Huis have shops that probably haven’t felt the impact of online sales. You don’t go to Marbella then come home & buy a straw donkey online.
Comparing the Spurs Shop to High St. makes about as much sense as saying that the long bar is a mistake because pubs are closing all over the place, or were you saying that as well? That new bar, coupled with contactless payment, means I can start having a half time beer again, without the 1st swig being accompanied by the whistle to start the 2nd half … I like to watch the 1st til the ref blows the half time whistle, you see.
Spurs ladies. Going by earlier on todays showing they are gonna struggle in the full pro league. They need to spend some money. City looked many a class above. 0-3.
Truth is it’s near impossible to get away tickets anyway as most are just touted
There’s something extraordinary going on in the Italian 3 rd tier…Cuneo are 13-0 up Vs pro Piacenza after half an hour. I’m not sure what’s going on but it’s unbelievable. It’s not a cup match against a minnow it’s a league fixture. Totally bizarre.
That Italian match finished 20-0. A dispute over wages meant Pro Piacenza had to play with 7 players made up of teenagers and a massage therapist. Levys wage model could end up in similar chaos if he’s not careful. Haha.
I see the Labour party is splintering thanks to the full Corbyn anti semitism.
What about reduced ticket prices for home fans ? To offer reduced priced tickets to what are most often the travelling teams richest supporters seems ridiculous to me.
It’s a joy to behold.
Marxist McDonut
I hate these long gaps between matches, never think it suits us, we always seem to do better when they come thick and fast, regardless of the injury situation etc. I expect a tough day out at Turf Moor.
Let’s hope so. A McDonut/Corblimey government would be a disaster of 1970’s proportions.
I see the Labour party is splintering thanks to the full Corbyn anti semitism.
Not what the fans over there think…
2022. Can see the story now. “Will Marcus ed2wards madrid? The Champions league winner with TOTTENHAM said on tappa tv “who wouldn’t wanna be linked with massive massive club like madrid” its means I’m doing something right. I’m very happy here.
Saw the scoreline. It’s a shame we only have a semi-professional team. The only world cup trophies I get to enjoy is with the womans usa team. The men are unfortunately garbage (good showing in brazil). But we do have hope……then pulisic went to chelsea.
Kill me now??????
Marcus. Keep it up son.
Spurs ladies. Going by earlier on todays showing they are gonna struggle in the full pro league. They need to spend some money. City looked many a class above. 0-3.
Unpaid wages dated back to September. There really are some scum involved in football club owning nowadays.
They also named a 19 year old as coach for the match. Bonkers.
That Italian match finished 20-0. A dispute over wages meant Pro Piacenza had to play with 7 players made up of teenagers and a massage therapist. Levys wage model could end up in similar chaos if he’s not careful. Haha.
Your more space = more people is childishly simplistic.
Did it ever occur to you why nobody else followed this model?
You and Levy are trapped in the 1980s.
Enjoy your half time pint. I’m sure it will transform your match day experience.
I appreciate you’re confused and angry, but I didn’t cause this. An investment company did.
A long bar and a big shop. The high life.
This all puts that tosser Bill Nicholson into perspective, eh? Double winner. Stupid old goat should have been focused on where the real success lies, eh?
Have we bought anyone yet?
?
Edwards scored for Excelsior……the new Messi.
15-0. There’s obviously something going on with the opposition.
*have turned up
14-0. The other team must not available turned up like in Billy the Fish….
There’s something extraordinary going on in the Italian 3 rd tier…Cuneo are 13-0 up Vs pro Piacenza after half an hour. I’m not sure what’s going on but it’s unbelievable. It’s not a cup match against a minnow it’s a league fixture. Totally bizarre.
Nobody cared about away fans when their money counted for something, let alone now, when even they don’t really care if it’s £30 or £40, because they’ll go anyway – just with 1 or 2 more or fewer tenners in their pocket.
Also, which part of a large retail outlet at an event arena/tourist trap don’t you get? Did you ever try to buy something from the main shop @ WHL on a matchday? It was a horror show, & I’m sure the club is well aware that as well as the regular supporters there are thousands of national & international tourist fans at every game with money to spend, & they can’t fill their bags quick enough … the customers or the club. More space = more people = more sales, & even places like cathedrals & Anne Frank Huis have shops that probably haven’t felt the impact of online sales. You don’t go to Marbella then come home & buy a straw donkey online.
Comparing the Spurs Shop to High St. makes about as much sense as saying that the long bar is a mistake because pubs are closing all over the place, or were you saying that as well? That new bar, coupled with contactless payment, means I can start having a half time beer again, without the 1st swig being accompanied by the whistle to start the 2nd half … I like to watch the 1st til the ref blows the half time whistle, you see.
Truth is it’s near impossible to get away tickets anyway as most are just touted
What about reduced ticket prices for home fans ? To offer reduced priced tickets to what are most often the travelling teams richest supporters seems ridiculous to me.
Not sure what the rationale is for levy’s opposition, but imo it would be much better to dramatically reduce prices for younger Spurs fans in home sections than to subsidise various racists in the away end making hissing noises. Whether that is levy’s intention is of course an open question..
I wonder how much it costs at the door to watch qpr play nowadays and why aint an oil man buying charlton
*expect
Levy has done some good. He has recently given my mates son (whos a bit of a vagabond) a kitchen porters job at the new stadium. £10.55 an hour. Can see a change in his attitude already. He’s a bright street wise boy who was raised in a loving house hold. The streets nearly had him. I expected him to be running the porters soon. He’s a leader. The youts just need legal opportunities Do not underestimate how bright some of them are. Most of them have never been caught and have been a bit “naughty” for ages and that aint easy. They also realize that the good “gyal dem” check for man wid jobs. 🙂 🙂
I never thought I would hear such blasphemous words Harold – you agree with Levy – I will let my eggs go cold and ponder