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East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

Conte is being paid 15m a year and his family are still living in Turin…

Archibald&Crooks (SC)
Archibald&Crooks (SC)
1 month ago

It’s simple.
Dont play a front 3 without Kulu.
I have seen 2 games now where Bis. came on and made a huge difference.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

That’s because Richarlison doesn’t improve the starting eleven…

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Struggles with Son on the park .Hopefully an opportunity to rotate within games ..them again we go 3 -0 up and we finish 3-2..

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago

For the life of me I can’t get my head round why we criticise players that we buy, play out of position and who then don’t bring the form
they were brought for. Or we buy them and give them a cameo generally in the last 5 mins of a game then slaughter them for lack of … Everything.

Emerson isn’t a WB yet he’s asked to play that role and fails miserably at it. We’ve all got on his back in this forum as have many others in forums across the Tottenham fan base.

Now it’s the turn of Richarlison. Ostensibly a CF yes, he can play wide but it’s not his natural position. Every mistake is seized upon.

Spurs fans have form for this. Especially forwards. Soldado, Jansen, both found themselves in the cross hairs of disgruntled Spurs fans when they failed in front of goal.

What gets quickly forgotten is the short time they got on the field of play compared to the likes of one of our own. Instead of a partnership or proper rotation they were reduced to Carling cup games or cameo roles when games were won.

So, why is this ? Well for me it circles back to our transfer policy. Teams like City et al buy to fulfil a role. Prime example is Haarland. They needed a CF after Aguero retired. They go and buy one of Europe’s most deadly. They play him from the get go.

The difference of course, the board listen to the manager. They rely on the manager and above all they trust him to make the right decisions. With each game we play it becomes more obvious the players we signed this season. Perisic aside, are not Conte’s picks. And so we fans raise of blood pressures when players don’t perform how we want them too. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy of doom and ultimate gloom.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Levy has never trusted any of his managers, DoFs, Paul Mitchell being a prime example, his scouting and recruitment staff, apart from that idiot Hitchen, who only retained his post as a Levy yes man and apologist. I never understood why he had the reputation as being a master negotiator in the transfer market, master something springs to mind.
Bissouma is not a bad player and we bought him quite reasonably as he only had a year left on his contract but did we need another DM? As you mention Perisic is probably the only Conte pick. I’m sure he wanted Bastoni or Skriniar but I doubt Lenglet was his pick and he will be gone at the end of the season. It was the same with Mourinho who wanted Skriniar or Ruben Dias, with whom we had actually agreed personal terms, but Levy dithered and allowed City to swoop in, so Levy bought Rodon. It was the same with Luis Diaz who signed for Liverpool. Levy has form for this, Willian and Mane spring to mind. Poch wanted Wijnaldum and Levy bought Sissoko instead.
Richarlison is foremost a no 9, perhaps he was signed to succeed Kane, who knows, but as you say, we never buy the players for the positions which really need strengthening. If the fans can see it, why can’t Levy?

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

I think it was AVB who said. I gave the board a list of the 5 players I wanted. I got versions of the players not the players. Levy would’ve loved Wembley Market. The place where you buy snide versions of everything.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Twas ever thus with Levy. Jol didn’t want Bent, Redknapp wanted Tevez and got Saha, as you say, AVB never got the players he asked for and and it was the same for Poch, Mourinho and Conte. Only one man to blame for this.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Yep

da do ron ron
da do ron ron
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

maybe tevez and others didnt want to join spurs? none of us know who whichever manager wanted ..none of us know who spurs tried to sign and were rebuffed..nobody here knows what goes on in spurs back rooms…all we have are the gossip columns.and of course opinions change every 5 mins ..doherty was a useless idiot-now hes rather good ..hes just the latest example of the boo boys fickle natures ..hes not thefirst and only one and certainly not the last one there will be.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago
Reply to  da do ron ron

I do. I worked there for over a decade under Levy & ENIC

CowSpurs
CowSpurs
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Every word is gold! Well stated.

Sandro
Sandro
1 month ago

On Richarlison – love his energy, he always puts the effort in and gets in the opposition faces. Would like to see him in a 5-3-2 up front with Kane because at present he is played wide right which is not his best position, so a little unfair to judge atm.

Last edited 1 month ago by Sandro
Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  Sandro

Energy and getting in the opposition faces is not enough for £60 million. For that money, I want technical and scoring ability, heart, desire and most importantly, the right mental attitude. Richarlison spends too much time looking for a free kick and falling on his arse. Not good enough.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago

I thought that the big difference yesterday against a moderate Everton was that we had around 67% possession. We normally concede so much territory that we generally end up with less than 40% which makes it very tough for the players. A three man midfield allowed us to get on the front foot after Richarlison went off. £60 million, you’re having a laugh.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Two goals in 13 games, I’d have expected a little bit more for 60m but we’ll see.

I agree on the possession, how can you create with so little possession?

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

So was Paulinho! 🙄

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

I rated him ..he left to boss Barca’s midfield as they won the last of their CL’s . Giga Popescu anyone …left Spurs to lift the European Cup as Captain of Barca the very next season …nice ..just two of the many Spurs players that have gone on to win trophies after leaving Spurs.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Bossed Barca’s midfield? Never bossed our midfield.. and went straight back to China after one season at Barca.

Last edited 1 month ago by Easty
CowSpurs
CowSpurs
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

He started well and then got a big injury after being snapped by Charlie Adam. I think Adam was so late in an another awful challenge on Bale that he hit Paulinho!!!! On his return from injury he never fancied it.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Yet another who left Spurs and won things ..to play in Barca’s midfield back then you had to be decent.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

3 man midfield defo works with Kulu out ..that we let EFC skip past our midfield twice only appalling finishing stopping us going 2 down ..needs to be discussed ..as long as it doesn’t upset anyone ..hurty wurty ..to quote H.

CowSpurs
CowSpurs
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Everton have a good defensive record for a reason, they play like the old Burnley. Lampard knows his footballers are not very good, therefore he looks to stop teams from scoring. As a result, he’s forced to let the other team have the ball.

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago

well said H….and it will continue this way based on what ive seen so far of “Ricky the roll-over” and the money they spent getting him..

judge
judge
1 month ago

Stats – and records – are there to be broken .
Lots to love at The Lane this season but obviously lots to dislike .
I’m a glass half full man and it must be said that after 10 games we have 23pts – a record I believe , Harry is scoring quite regularly [ 9 in 10 ?] Sonny is not getting lots right now but is scoring great goals [ we love him ]
PEH and Benty’s partnership is visibly growing week to week . Apart from the creative side , they are looking a ‘great pair’ and may well provide more if they were in ‘a 3’ ?
Doherty has taken so much stick but HAS RESPONDED .
Romero , well I refuse to believe he would not make any World Eleven defensively and he’s stepping into attack on occasion – and doing very well .
Our keeper is still one of the great shot-stoppers , and as our Captain he is also a wonderful role model and ambassador .
All I’m trying to say is that the Clubs philosophy is changing and we have a Maestro at the helm . Our slow conversion this last year has been fascinating and far from the doom and gloom that surrounds us now and again .
We are shaping to be , in the near future , one of the very biggest European sides . I am personally proud to be around for this transition , we’ll hit some buffers for sure but we know how to respond now , not shrink as before . C O Y S !!!!!!!!!!!!

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
1 month ago
Reply to  judge

I thought Bentancur was as silky as my wife’s knickers yesterday and the Iceman always puts in a shift…they work better in a 3..

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

Let’s see how all these suddenly world class players do against teams that didn’t almost get relegated last season. Typical hyperbole.

However, we’ve been picking up points and the league campaign is a marathon and not a sprint. Let’s see if Woolwich (and Pep’s Mini-me) can keep up their form.

Despite not being backed properly in the summer, Conte and League campaigns are his bread and butter so more time getting his messages across should at least imbue a team that scraped 4th last season with the kind of robustness needed to do better this term.

Winning points and not playing well is all well and good, beating inferior opponents at home is all well and good but we will need to go up a level to make strides on last season. Conte is a past master at this kind of thing, maybe not Europe, maybe not domestic cups but as a league campaign he’s the guy, despite not being backed properly.

Anyone giving Levy and the mythical ‘backing’ credit for any progress need to look at the realities of the situation. Poch did well DESPITE Levy, Conte is doing well DESPITE Levy. They’d win pots with something better than Levy…

Last edited 1 month ago by Easty
da do ron ron
da do ron ron
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

i believe it was nicholson who said “the sign of a good team is winning while playing badly” he also said “good players dont get injured often” while its true its one thing winning against poor/poorish teams..any wins give a team a sense of self belief,a thing i think which has been missing for some time. im mildly optimistic that spurs might do well this year ..i certainly think its far from all doom and gloom .

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  da do ron ron

I agree, our footballing MO has changed under Conte, perhaps not so aesthetically pleasing but there’s a robustness. However, the thing that hasn’t changed is the penny pinching nonsense from Levy’ s transfer ‘policy’, if we can call it that.

We will do well, but predictably just fall short under Conte as we have done with every manager under ENIC. People always applaud how well the manager has done ‘under the circumstances’ working at the 8th wealthiest club in world football. 🤔

Many STILL seem to accept this dysfunctional nonsense as ‘doing things differently’ and ‘not doing a Leeds’. It’s unbelievable really, even with 23 years for the penny to drop…

Last edited 1 month ago by Easty
Sonificent
Sonificent
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Levy is a cancerous being, eating at the club’s fabric for 20-plus years. Been going so long, everyone thinks the latest pathetic transfer window, with not one statement signing, is progress. Balance sheet management has always been key, sadly, mate.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Sonificent

Tottenham fans’ expectations have been managed expertly by Levy. Be grateful for what you have, even if it’s lumbering the club with generational debt, and delivering one minor trophy in 23 years.

I would say that it’s always a case of one step forward and two back, but seeing as it’s all planned out to work like that, the concept of ever taking a single step forward is rendered meaningless…

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
1 month ago

Tbf your wife’s knicker are polyester..no offence..

da do ron ron
da do ron ron
1 month ago
Reply to  judge

only one thing i disagree with on your post judge is lloris being a great role model and ambassador,remember lloris was the guy arrested in the early hours a while ago drunk as a lord at the wheel of his car…he should have,in my opinion, been kicked out of the club the moment the charges were proven. i remember david pleat being dumped when convicted of kerb crawling…seedy as that behaviour undoubtedly is ,it pales in comparison to drunken driving with the potential loss of lives it could have involved…if lloris is a role model -then im a cossack cavalry captain.

judge
judge
1 month ago
Reply to  da do ron ron

My apologies , I was of course speaking of him with regard to his attitude within the squad . I believe he is a deeply respected man , a great goal keeper [ we at Spurs have been very fortunate to have had spectacular goalies over the years ] and a voice for the less confident.
I was unaware of those misdemeanours and I hope he was rightfully punished .

Paranoid Android
Paranoid Android
1 month ago
Reply to  da do ron ron

“Kicked out of the club???”. Why? He admitted it, owned up to it, paid a £50,000 fine, was banned for 20 months from driving and you wanted him kicked out of the club. So, if anyone commits a drink driving offence they should automatically lose their job too?? Nonsense….

da do ron ron
da do ron ron
1 month ago

anything but nonsense..you seriously ask WHY? 50,000 fine-nothing to him..20 months ban? -no problem for him either.he admitted it-he owned up.?..he had no choice did he?..not that his admission of guilt does him any favours. his actions(like the actions of any drunken driver) are unforgiveable and unredeemable…he should have been booted from the club …and imprisoned. drunken/drugged drivers are the scum of the earth,maybe in your case youd need one of YOUR family members killed by a drunk driver ,before you realised the potential enormities of a crime like that.but in football,as in everything else these days it seems,theres very little if any integrity,morals or ethics on display. maybe if you look long enough you might be able to find some redeeming qualities in lloris’s actions …good luck with that one!

Paranoid Android
Paranoid Android
1 month ago
Reply to  da do ron ron

Unforgiveable and unredeemable?? Where do you come from, the stone them till dead school of justice? He screwed up as many do in these circumstances. I’m not saying it’s right and I don’t approve of it either, but he admitted he made a mistake and paid for it as decided by a magistrate who took into account his immediate acknowledgement of guilt and judged the punishment as appropriate.

If you have some personal involvement with this type of situation then I am sorry if it is too close to home, but sacking people for this type of offense is an inappropriate punishment on top of the social stigma (quite rightly) for this and for someone like Lloris, his fall from grace after winning the world cup and the scrutiny from the press would be much, much more than the typical person so those combined with everything else seems to be enough. And if you seriously believe that all people who commitment this offense are the scum of the earth, you’re not leaving much else for other much worse offenses, i.e. actual murder, rape etc.

And the law does not weigh punishment on potential enormities, it weighs it on what actually happened.

da do ron ron
da do ron ron
1 month ago

indeed ..as regards lloris’s “fall from grace” and “social stigma” im sure hes crying all the way to the bank.

CowSpurs
CowSpurs
1 month ago
Reply to  judge

Spurs never move as quickly as we want them to, but this could be said of all fans and their teams. Conte knows how to put a team together, but he has a chairman so inept that moving forward is hard and winning trophies of any type will be extremely difficult for us. We are fortunate again to be profiteering off Chelsea’s transition and Liverpool’s stuttering start, but I will not cry over that. Other teams gained when we lost Poch and Mourinho had Ndom in his ranks!

At the time of the NLD I was saying that Arsenal had only played one team of note (Utd), but on reflection so had we and we somehow managed a point from a match that we got battered in (Chelsea). The Premier League may well be promoted by its media providers as the best in the world, but there is an awful amount of ‘meh’ in the league. We are above this level but if we keep buying the Rodon’s, Jack Clarke’s and Djed Spence’s of the world we’ll forever be playing catch up. It’s embarrassing we can’t get an academy graduates at Spence’s level, but when Chelsea and Arsenal are better options for the kids we pick up the lads destined for League One.

My fear is the transition could be back to square one soon, if Conte does not prolong his stay. Kane, Son and Lloris are on the other side of their careers too. What is Levy going to do to replace them 3! He’d need to spend over £200m on three replacements, like that is ever going to happen.

da do ron ron
da do ron ron
1 month ago
Reply to  CowSpurs

spend spend spend..50 million for ndombele -we can all see how that turned out lol..its not just spending big ,spending small sometimes gets a better quality player …ive said this before here i think…modric was a punt (forget his fee now) bale was a punt..son was a punt . sometimes “punts” work -other times the y dont ,because no one is blessed with the gift of hindsight.
as a side note i read a headline on msm that joe lewis wasnt taking a “significant” interest business wise in spurs any more..something to do with family investment portfolios -i didnt read the full article ,couldnt be fussed..what it means in practice is anyones guess.

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