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13 Left To Freeze Over Christmas

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You couldn’t make it up. 

Some lucky residents of Haringey are spending this Christmas hoping that that an emergency electric heater will keep their homes going over the ‘festive’ period – because the gas has been switched off. 

The majority of residents have been moved out of Tangmere block on the Broadwater Farm estate due to safety concerns about its original construction. 

However, 13 households are left behind.  Due to fears about the effect of gas explosions on the faulty Large Panel System construction, Cadent switched off the gas to the building on 26/11/2018. 

Residents have been provided with electric heaters but these are not sufficient to keep all flats warm. 

The cost of heating the flats with electric heaters is very high-up to £100 a week and some residents are still to receive promised money from Homes for Haringey to cover this cost. 

This is causing financial difficulties and is leading some residents to restrict the heating of their homes further as conversations with the writer of this press release have shown.

The Haringey Cabinet was informed of this situation prior to their meeting of 11/12/18 (see email cut and paste below.)

The webcast of this meeting shows (at 29 minutes) the Deputy Leader giving the figure of 13 households. 

Shockingly (at 32 minutes) a Council officer states that the issue of residents left in Tangmere will be revisited in the new year which is obviously too late.

The Webcast is here: https://haringey.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/391304

The  Council Cabinet were warned on 26th June that they would not be able to move everyone out of the Tangmere by 30th October (the deadline that Cadent had given at the time.) 

The writer of this press release demanded that the Cabinet should install a temporary boiler to provide district heating at the foot of the block.  These boilers have been installed for 9 other blocks on the Broadwater Farm due to safety concerns about gas boilers inside the blocks. 

This would have enabled residents of Tangmere to be moved out in a more humane fashion.

While it is true that some residents do feel able to keep their flats warm and have received payments, some have not more than 2 weeks after the shut-off as conversations with residents has shown.  This patchy approach is very concerning. 

In addition, Haringey Council is not addressing the issue that electric heaters are clearly not enough to keep a 3 bed flat warm even if this is more feasible in a one bedroom flat. 

Also, there is the issue that temperatures are likely to get colder over the next few weeks and more and more left behind residents are likely to suffer.

Haringey Council has repeatedly show a callous attitude to the residents of Tangmere.  Fears about the health and safety of residents once the gas has been switched off have been dismissed. 

The council’s attitude seems to have been to move the residents out as quickly as possible without any assessment of the risk of their actions in terms of leaving residents without adequate heating.

Background 

The Large Panel System Problem and the Temporary Boilers
Gas is being removed from all blocks that currently have it on the Broadwater Farm estate.  This is due to a safety problem with the Large Panel System that has existed since the time of construction in the late 1960s.

Basically no block on Broadwater Farm should have piped gas because of the danger of disproportionate collapse in case of a gas explosion. For this reason piped gas has been removed from all blocks and a temporary district heating boiler has been put outside 9 blocks to pump in hot water for central heating and the hot water supply to taps. However, no boiler was put outside Tangmere due to the council’s desire to demolish it and move people out before the gas shut-off. 

Tangmere and Northolt are even more vulnerable and reports show a gas cylinder explosion could cause a disproportionate collapse too.  Haringey Council seems to have believed it had  rectified these issues with past work but recent structural reports indicate that this was not the case.

See: https://www.homesforharingey.org/your-neighbourhood/safety-estates/broadwater-farm/faq-april-2018
The options were to demolish or strengthen Tangmere and Northolt to deal with this risk and the Council has chosen to demolish.

(No temporary boiler is required for Northolt as did not have a gas supply before the current situation. The problem here is continuing vulnerability to a gas cylinder explosion.)

Final Version of Minutes Cabinet Meeting 26/6/18
https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/documents/g8824/Public%20reports%20pack%2017th-Jul-2018%2018.30%20Cabinet.pdf?T=10

Page 2

‘That the key driver of the decision to decant Tangmere residents was the October deadline, was the fact that Cadent was due to switch off the gas supply.Jacob Secker contended that the October deadline was unrealistic  and that a temporary boiler  needed to be provided so that those Tangmere residents who could not be re -housed by then could get heating and  hot water  after gas was removed from inside the block.The similar circumstances of the Ledbury estate were referred to and Southwark‘s decision to provide temporary boilers.

There was concern that not all residents in Tangmere could be re-housed by October.’

Email to Haringey Council Cabinet  Sent 10/12/18 (extract)

‘I would also like to appeal to you on behalf of the households left in Tangmere.  There are at least 12-13 of these households: leaseholders, council tenants and one housing association tenant. 

As predicted now the gas has been switched off they are very cold. 

Electric heaters are not sufficient to heat the flats in Tangmere and I have heard they are tripping the electrics.  The decision not to install a temporary boiler was a cruel one. 

Officers keep insisting it is the residents ‘own fault’ for not moving but it is a landlord’s absolute responsibility to ensure homes are heated, not to blame the residents. 

In fact it has been very difficult to arrange for leaseholders to move due to difficulties with finding private accommodation for them at the rent levels the Council will fund and the Council’s ban on housing them temporarily in other council properties. 

Tenants who are remaining may be doing so because of problems in communication and difficult issues that have taken a long time to resolve.  It is unfair to put all these cases under the category of the ‘tenant’s own fault’ and they think it is all right to allow them to freeze as a consequence.  It was predicted that this would happen. 

Now the weather is getting colder and colder I would urge councillors to please do something for the households that you have left in this awful state.’

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Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago

These days, you’re an extremist by default

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

I’m going to review it, via the medium of mime.

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

Vadum-tish!

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

What’s a matter you hey!!!

paul
paul
5 years ago
Reply to  Mad Carew

Everything sounds more exciting on the radio

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Ain’t there a song, Me and Debbie Magee….Merle Haggard

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

Switzerland much safer than Germany

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

Allah…… Nevermind

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  JimNewrySpur.

Levy

JimNewrySpur.
JimNewrySpur.
5 years ago
Reply to  Mad Carew

Now you’re getting carried away.

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
5 years ago

that was for Levy, hopefully he’s reading this..

baz
baz
5 years ago

The hallmark of a great team.

JimNewrySpur.
JimNewrySpur.
5 years ago
Reply to  Ronan

Yeah.

paul
paul
5 years ago
Reply to  Mad Carew

That was robber’s dog ugly

paul
paul
5 years ago
Reply to  JimNewrySpur.

Hindsight’s a beautiful thing!

paul
paul
5 years ago

I wouldn’t bet against that

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Did you hear, braided hair on German girls is now considered far right by German coppers. World gone mad.

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  Mad Carew

That’s what she said.

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago
Reply to  JimNewrySpur.

Be thankful you’re not watching this, it actually is Dire !

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  Mad Carew

Debbie Magee would do…

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

When we are down by one

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

Real Germans or Merkel Germans?

paul
paul
5 years ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

1 million Germans can’t be wrong

paul
paul
5 years ago

We’ll see what Poch says in 15-20 minutes

baz
baz
5 years ago
Reply to  Dan

I was just about to ask how the game was.

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  Mad Carew

To be fair, the performance matches the stadium

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  Spiderneil

Muggafugga out of control…

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

MEDIA BIAS!!!!!!

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

70/30 apparently

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

I want Moura to stay

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

So this is what being on the verge of greatness feels like.

paul
paul
5 years ago

Not anytime soon

Dan
Dan
5 years ago
Reply to  Mad Carew

Rocket man

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

He’s more concerned about his Alpecin coping with the rain

paul
paul
5 years ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Cheers H, got it up on NBCsn via sportsdonkey but good to have a back up

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago

In a bad way

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago

Poch, Skipp not Moura… FFS

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago

Eriksen and Dier (god help me) for Skipp and Sissoko

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

An hour gone, entertainment my arse !

Sid Trotter
Sid Trotter
5 years ago

He he he – oh Rose

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

That young lad was sent skipping to the loo my darling

paul
paul
5 years ago

I’d go with Tintin and Sonny for Skipp and Moura

Dan
Dan
5 years ago

Rose , if only he could cross the ball

paul
paul
5 years ago

And Poch wonders why commentators are not talking about us as serious title challengers.

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

Can’t be as bad this time

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago

Nice start Rose

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

A Rocket from Rose

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

Normally we would lay serge to the opponents goal with 5 on target and 14 off target but Hart could have went and got his nails done that half bar Lamela’s foot. Conditions not good but we must be better than this, where’s the SK smiler who fluffed his lines midweek ?

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
5 years ago

its pointless possession…waste of time…

Lord Croker
Lord Croker
5 years ago

Huffing and puffing half.

paul
paul
5 years ago

We have to learn to feint against these bus parking teams

Urbane Sturgeon
Urbane Sturgeon
5 years ago
Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
5 years ago

Man City had possession against Everton but there was purpose, fast attacks, attempts…we have Tripps pointing, Skipp slidding, Sissoko falling, Moura running and Deli pulling his socks up…

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago

Possession stats

Spurs 892% Burnley .0003%

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

We need Sonny’s magic

Urbane Sturgeon
Urbane Sturgeon
5 years ago

How is it possible that so many of our players fail to get the ball past the first defender from wide positions? It’s quite staggering! I could swear, but I can’t be bothered.

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

Nice ball over the top to Trippier

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago

This is the first of what ought to be an easy run.

Spiderneil
Spiderneil
5 years ago

Poch made his sub 3 mins early… he must mean business.

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago

Rose and Trips crossing has been superb. Like watching pigs fark.

paul
paul
5 years ago

Didn’t really see Tintin do any sort of warm up

Dan
Dan
5 years ago

This is awful

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago

Double change now please

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago

This is such fun!

Urbane Sturgeon
Urbane Sturgeon
5 years ago

My new shelves look good but I’m wondering if some of the books need rearranging.

JimNewrySpur.
JimNewrySpur.
5 years ago

Commentator on 5Live just loving Spurs struggling, not a fan deffo.

paul
paul
5 years ago

That’s 45 minutes of my life i’ll never get back.

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
5 years ago

its all a bit nothingy….one attempt with 8000% ain’t great

Sid Trotter
Sid Trotter
5 years ago

The next 45 will be just as long …. feck

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

Thank Gawd for the HT Whistle

paul
paul
5 years ago
Reply to  Mad Carew

shuddupayaface!

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

Hehe

paul
paul
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

just let that sink in

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

So we heard

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

He looks like Vardy’s brother

paul
paul
5 years ago
Reply to  Mad Carew

yeah they got the proportions wrong with those

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  paul

No legal ones

paul
paul
5 years ago

Still have a lorra luv for lennon

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago
Reply to  Lord Croker

He took enough cash from property developers to book them all into a clean if modest hotel for a month each.

Maybe he’s busy overseeing his butler’s sock and under-pant ironing?

baz
baz
5 years ago

And the Spurs go trundling on.👌

JimNewrySpur.
JimNewrySpur.
5 years ago

Up that commentator on 5Live willing Burnley on, hates us.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac
5 years ago

How the piss are we winning games

Ronan
Ronan
5 years ago

Saved it for the death so the Arse and racists could savour it properly.

Urbane Sturgeon
Urbane Sturgeon
5 years ago

Thank the Lord………….. late equaliser anyone?…………

Sid Trotter
Sid Trotter
5 years ago

3 points, but feck, that waas Eric

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Try District 3 laneways in Saigon.

JimNewrySpur.
JimNewrySpur.
5 years ago

Draw, never.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
5 years ago

We’re gonna win the league

paul
paul
5 years ago

TFFT!

Sid Trotter
Sid Trotter
5 years ago

YYYEEESSSSS

Lilywhite without the II
Lilywhite without the II
5 years ago

hehe….wow…how a difference a goal makes…nearly ruined my weekend..

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

Maybe we don’t need to buy any more players

JimNewrySpur.
JimNewrySpur.
5 years ago

Cmon you Spurs.

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago
Reply to  Spurswizard

Prince of Denmark, i never doubted you Spurs, hahahahahahahahahaha…hard luck Hahaha hart.

JimNewrySpur.
JimNewrySpur.
5 years ago

Take your time now Burnley, run down the clock.

Aussie in Switzerland
Aussie in Switzerland
5 years ago

Burnley are a blight on audience entertainment. Fark them

Mad Carew
Mad Carew
5 years ago

Never in doubt

Harry Hotspur
Harry Hotspur
5 years ago

Couldn’t score in a Vietnamese brothel with a pocketful of rice

paul
paul
5 years ago

H A R T B R E A K E R !

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