What’s interesting about this piece of film is that lays out all the facts, opposed to just represents one side of the argument. There’s little doubt that Mourinho has overseen some turgid performances since his arrival at Hotspur Way. The real question is, “just how extenuating are the circumstances?”
José’s line in reference to the Southampton game, about him playing chess with pieces missing is fair comment. When Pochettino was delivering relegation form, it’s ambitious to suggest that things style wise were any better. So the mystery is perhaps less about the coach and more about the players.
Bottom line is, this squad isn’t going to be settled until basics like player availability are conquered. In fact there are number of issues more pressing for the Portuguese than fabulous-to-watch football. There’s also the business of licking new signings into shape and into a system.
Come the summer, there are still players that need to be moved on, Juan Foyth’s name springs to mind… And just because Harry Kane will return from injury, that doesn’t mean Spurs suddenly have no need of a proper second striker.
This season is very much a clean-up job.
Nor would they have consistently finished top 4 and competed effectively in the CL. Premier league chairmen so far don’t see in Tim the significance of beating Colchester. And yet Poch seems to be linked with several high profile jobs.
I fail to see what point you’re trying to make.
The team’s record under Sherwood speaks for itself. His team would not have lost to Colchester.
Backwards and sideways passing (useless ineffective possession) is DEFINITELY manager tactics and nothing to do with the players – they had their instructions for that final and showed Pool too much respect – 100% Poch’s fault and especially when we include the Lucas snub. If it ain’t broke then don’t fix it, but that’s exactly what Poch did. Tactics was never Poch’s forte as his late useless substitutions regularly proved.
It’s going to take a long time to teach these players to pass forward as the top clubs do – they have been Pochinated. LOL
Sherwoods record speaks for itself, irrespective of the opposition. Poch was loosing to far weaker opposition than Sherwood. There’s too much foreign manager bias and media hype in the British game.
Soldado and adebayor was still saluting everyone back then. We were rubbish. In chaos we were missing bale badly and in desperate need of identity…. Poch sorted the shambles out.
The players are to blame for the champs league final.. Poch set us up well for that final. We dominated posession, should have created and scored more, we could have had the scouse that night if you rewatch.. Lucas not starting was my only gripe. Half our players folded that night most notably our midfield…. Sherwoods record win rate was a mix of easy match ups, a bit of luck and the obvious fact he was only there for 10 minutes because he won a few games as caretaker! You seriously believe the likes of adebayor, soldado, paulinho, bentaleb, lennon etc was better than the team poch built around kane? 😂 sherwoods team was never getting to finals and top four, as soon as results went south timbo slated the players, the club and was promptly sacked.. People take stats, facts and records completely out of context.
Unfortunately Mourinho doesn’t have a great record with young players(not a criticism, just a fact) and he evidently wants a different type of defender. If Foyth is sold, I’m sure he has a replacement in mind.
Can’t believe that you are serious about Tim’s team. Devil and a hard place re Kane and Lucas in the CL final. Kane out for so long and Lucas had a day out. Hasn’t had a day out since. Hindsight is your ally here.
Sess came injured, Lo C late and suffering injuries as too for Tanguy. Bergwijn mid season, top goal but will take time. Mourinho himself has said all of the above will be better acclimatised to the EPL next season. Remember too there were lots of fans/pundits discussing whether Mourinho would even keep Lo Celso or send him back. Perspective helps.
Good points. Plus Jose loves a tasty bratwurst.
All managers have availability issues, it is the depth of your squad which is key. As for new players starting immediately, Sessegnon took time to get fit, Tanguy still struggles with fitness, it took Lo Celso time to get up to speed. How many times did Poch and fans lament Levy’s last transfer day theatrics. I respect your lauding of everything Mourinho but there is no need to make spurious comparisons of managers. Where were United’s team in the last few years after his massive spend? Tactical acumen? Hooking Dier when he should not have started?
The real culprit is of course Levy…and we still don’t have a genuine backup striker after how many years.
Not a problem.
I think it’s completely fair – Poch screwed up the CL final big time with his negative football and not playing Lucas, who plays well in CL matches. The squad Poch inherited was better than that which Mourinho has inherited as Sherwood’s record (win rate) proves. You’re also comparing 5 years with 3 months = apples with oranges.
Its not really fair to make a comparison like that, one needs to look at the overall picture.. Poch had been with us nearly 6 years and the board had neglected his team for 3 or 4 years…. Where were we when poch took over? What did he achieve?….. Maureen has inherited a far better team than poch did when he started so he has a head start really. To better poch he has to win something, consistently smash top four, and last longer than four years (which he has never been able to do in any of his jobs)
Maureens dedication to winning is almost like an obsession it seems. As chelsea gaffer he was banned against barca i think so he went to their ground and hid in baskets and their changing room all day so he could be there for his boys without officials seeing him 😂…. More notably its our winter break now and i just seen him in germany watching bayern munich vs rp leipzig hes sat on his own watching the game in a blue cap and mac with earphones in like hes a private investigator in disguise.. Dedication like this excites me. Maureen could have watched that game on tv like most would. But no he flies out to germany to be there.
Ah, I misunderstood. Definitely improvement.
My comparison was with the squad Poch left, and the squad that’s playing now under Mourinho, where I believe there are positive signs of improvement.
Already has?!! Easy tiger. To better Poch’s PL 2nd & CL runners up
placings, Maureen needs to win both.
Agree with all of that.
For all the criticism leveled at Jose one thing stands out and that is his in game management ability. He can read a game and he will make changes whenever and whatever he feels is needed.He can only move the pieces on the board he has been given and as of this moment most of those are a legacy of his predecessor. However, Pooch in my mind does not have the in game management ability Jose has. His tactical ability is miles behind Jose’s and his habit of only substituting after 75 mins and sometimes in the last ten minutes and even less of games is indicative to me that he has a long way to go to stand side by side with the very best in the world. The other massive improvement is the fact that new players apparently can be played immediately and not held back for six months “conditioning”.For these reasons I will accept for the moment the turgid displays and wait until he has had a full preseason and we can see whether Golam will back him with quality additions without selling our best players to fund them.Despite what we know are the issues at the club we at least are still in with a shout of the FA Cup, we are still in with a shout of a top four slot and we are still in the CL. I doubt whether two of those would be even a possibility had Pooch continued.
The squad was underfunded with Poch and it’s underfunded with Mourinho – the only question is can Mourinho get more out of an underfunded squad than Poch? It’s the Levy way! PS and I think there are signs that Mourinho already has.
I’d say this season is make do and maybe next season we’ll bung you a few quid to get a name or two of your own in ….
Foyth would be someone to stick with. There is defo a player there.
Spot on.
The displays against City can be contextualised as pragmatic and done to get results which is a bit different to looking clueless.
I for one beliebe Jose will let them play, and be cunning enough to come up with game plans to win rather than just beliebing.
I hate writing seasons off (like the 90s) but I cant wait for next season, same as Jose.
We will be full on Jose’s Yid army by then.
I actually think Foyth could be the new Dier. He is tough and is a better ball player than Dier. He could be a good DM. I’m not saying keep him but if we cant get rid of him maybe he could fit in the DM and free up money on a striker or FB that we need as well.