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We Name Two Toxic Players In The Spurs Dressing Room
By Harry Hotspur -

The discovery that there was turbulence behind the scenes at Hotspur Way didn’t really come as a huge surprise. Whilst I find myself unusually aligned with Daniel Levy for perhaps the first time in my life in respect of Mourinho’s legendary reputation, that hasn’t deterred my belief that José Mourinho can still do what he does. Win stuff.

When Pochettino said that a dramatic rebuild was required, the Argentine was ignored by Levy, then later fired. It’s ambitious to believe that Mourinho was brought in to establish a rebuild, because that’s not what he does – unless his club owners have extravagantly deep pockets.

It’s also important to note at this point that it was childsplay to predict the animosity that The Special One would engender when he came to Spurs. Beyond the whole ‘Chelsea’ baggage – the style of play under the Portuguese has rarely been lauded by anyone. Look at his spell at Manchester United; José won 3 trophies there and still there are United fans stalking the Internet willing to erupt at the slightest mention of the 58-year-old’s name.

Given Spurs did function for a while as a side that was morphing into a Mourinho side (think beating Manchester City 2-0) what went wrong?

It’s my understanding from a source close to the club that Gareth Bale – whom Mourinho had gifted to him by Levy – is at the heart of the angst at Hotspur Way. To provide context for those in short supply, the quickest way to achieve a top-up is probably this article from Goal which talks us through the Welshman managed to fall out with not just Zinedine Zidane, but also Carlo Ancelotti.

Now it appears that the 31-year-old is burning another high profile bridge, this time in N17.

This is a tough gig for Levy whose hopes for a triumphant, if somewhat schmaltzy return to Spurs from Gareth has been hijacked by questions over commitment and attitude.

It’s taken Bale 6-months to be coaxed into action in keeping with his wages, and even, then the Bale is Back banners could only be unfurled when Spurs were playing mediocre sides.

How much?

The suggestion is that Bale and his representatives on Earth all feel that the Real Madrid reject needs is to effectively have sides built around him. Which might have sounded interesting prior to seeing the reality of what the boy offers – and the fact that this is the THIRD successful coach Bale has managed to push over the edge.

Bale appears to have become somewhat detached from reality and Mourinho is fatigued from having to combat the perceived resistance to the seriousness of Tottenham’s situation, Hence the blow-ups from both coach and captain after the Zagreb game. Additionally, the endless obsession with his own frailties had also worn thin some good while ago. Hence, the blow-up from Mourinho about Bale’s Instagram post. You see, the issue wasn’t about who posted it, the issue was that it was a straw that broke the camel’s back. There is a misguided assumption that every twinge and tweak felt by the lad is ‘fascinating’ news to others.

The second man is Eric Dier, whose inability to take responsibility for absolutely anything at all, sees him sharing the same rarefied air as Bale in the Detached From Reality Section.

What is for certain, is that this summer, Levy can no longer sit on his hands.

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East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

I find the notion that these two players have derailed our season single handedly rather fanciful me-self.

Firstly Jose loves the Portuguese fluent Dier, gave him a new contract, played him even when it has very hard to justify etc etc. he may have not been able to make a place his own in our back four, but a leader of insurrection?

Bale might be causing bad vibes but yet again, this is surely just a hunch? Probably based on the size of his wages and his full time golf role back in Madrid. Thing is, he’s still scored 11 goals in all competitions and I just don’t see him coming back and deliberately disrupting the dressing room.

His relationship with Jose might have broken down, as it may have done for several others. However, this assumption that a bullish character like Jose has morphed into ‘new Jose’, like some kind of hippy, merely asking for peace, love and great human qualities an integrity, I just don’t buy.

I have maintained that I don’t feel Jose’s man management or his general approach fits with the present day. And I remain to be convinced otherwise…

CzechSpur
CzechSpur
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

Maybe not insurrection – it doesn’t have to be open defiance. It can suffice if you just don’t work hard enough or blame the others for your own mistakes.

Think of Lamela or Moura’s pressing for example, as compared to Bale or Dele’s. The former harry the ball at full speed, while the other two sometimes run towards an opposition player at half speed. One approach galvanizes the rest of the team to join in, the other tells you “why bother, if they don’t?” Let’s not forget the half-as*ed effort Bale put in in the NLD, which helped expose Doherty time and time again.

Dier is another case – an inability to accept his own deficiencies. He cost us a lot of points this season, only to come out saying “I’ve been playing well, and if not, it’s because the team mostly hasn’t.” Entirely out of touch, and his finger-pointing shenanigans are totally tired now. We know when the mistake is yours.

(Also, isn’t blaming others usually a stick to beat Jose with? That surely doesn’t do much for the team morale.)

Mourinho is not a saint, nor a hippie. But he wants accountability, honesty and hard work. Bale and Dier seem to be among those who don’t give him that. Bale works hard only when he feels like it (1 in 4 games maybe?) and Dier seems to think he’s doing us a favour, while he’s bang average.

pt13
pt13
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

I don’t think there’s any insurrection. And certainly no leaders of insurrection. You see in any form of mutiny, there is a need for leaders, people with big personality and ego who command respect of the supposed rebels. With all due respect to Dier and Bale, they’re not the type. Sure Dier can look and talk like a thug on the pitch, but his actions or lack thereof make him as nothing more than ‘one of the group’. And while Bale had been one the best players for Spurs and Madrid 3 years ago, that was in the past. He is still one of the most talented players in our squad, but the ridiculous level of application and output generated by Harry Kane on a weekly basis makes me sceptical that a player watching Kane and Bale everyday will become enamoured by the welshman. Plus his wage package compared to his contribution will win him no favours.

If we go by the plausible hypothesis that Kane and Hugo are pro Mourinho, then there is no mutiny. It’s hilarious to even think that Dier, Bale or Dele will have the balls to clash with Kane, Lloris and Pierre. Because they’re not rebels, just a bunch of sulking, out of touch millionaires who think it’s their right not privilege to be playing football and can’t fathom someone disagreeing with them. That sense of entitlement and lack of consequences brings the shamelessness Mourinho was talking about.

Can you imagine players from Man City or Bayern failing to turn up for a derby and then throwing away a 2 goal lead to get knocked out 3 days later? Those players would be ashamed, and more importantly afraid of their futures with the club. But here it seems like they know nothing’s gonna change, that they’ll win the next one and it will be all right. And the reason they think that is because that’s exactly what happened two years ago after our relegation form in the second half of the league. Or after the soul sucking performance in the biggest game of the club’s history. Or after getting the manager who made all of them fired last season. Nothing changed. They’re still here collecting their paychecks. So why would they think that it will be different now?

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  pt13

Go through that starting lineup in the NLD and explain who you think, in terms of character might have been not up for it. I’ve tried and I’m scratching my head.

The other element nobody’s even mentioning is that we have a manager getting paid huge sums himself, to get a tune out of them. What’s he griping paid for, just to sample the cheese?

CzechSpur
CzechSpur
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

Doherty and Bale probably. It doesn’t take many players to undermine the team effort. They offered nothing at all and the inroads Arsenal were making down our right left PEH covering at RB, destabilising our centre. Also, they seemed to want it more. If you see Bale jogging about in the NLD while the RB behind him is slaughtered, you can get despondent.

Attitude is our main problem, which is what the manager says quite often in his interviews. I believe Jose does his best to assign value to every game (including the cups – he even said the Dinamo tie hadn’t been decided), but I also think some players simply can’t be motivated sometimes.

How many times did we not turn up under Harry, AVB and Poch, including games at the Emirates where we were supposedly favourites? It can happen and it often did.

I don’t know if Jose is the right one to get the most out of this team, but if he’s finally weeding out the wasters, he has my backing. The Villa game was a marked improvement in attitude, so let’s see if that continues.

Lord Croker
Lord Croker
3 months ago

Send one back. Sell the other.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
3 months ago

The club seem to have gone to the ends of the earth to try and make Eric Dier comfortable, he’s had so many ‘second chances’ – if he’s a vocal dissenter he needs to read the writing on the wall and suck it up.

CzechSpur
CzechSpur
3 months ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Some will tell you being given a new contract and constantly being played in his preferred position is Jose humiliating Dier.

Dier, as ever, is the only one who’s humiliating himself.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  CzechSpur

Humiliating himself, vocal dissenter. How do we know that even a crumb of these rumours are true?

Secondly, Dier was a player Jose clearly rated in terms of ability and attitude when he arrived. It’s probable they even knew each other with him coming through the Portuguese system.

I can’t see him being dissenting of Jose, unless of course most of the players on in the same page and can’t stand Jose’s methods? They might have a point…

James McKevitt
James McKevitt
3 months ago

Mourinho will know almost everything going on in the dressing room, he will have his trusted lieutenants reporting to him

We will see who has the upper hand come seasons end. Bale is years younger than Messi and Ronaldo but you’d think he was ten years older than them. Who has the more professional attitude and is still contributing at a consistently high level to his team?

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago
Reply to  James McKevitt

Messi and Ronaldo are both something else. Both were world class as teenagers… I was watching a 19 yr old Messi last night, he put both Roberto Carlos and Cannavaro on their asses (Sanchez style) with just a drop of the shoulder and Cannavaro won the ballon dor that year.. As good as Bale was, he was never as good as those two.

justin
justin
3 months ago
Reply to  James McKevitt

You can’t really compare people of the same age and expect them to age the exact same amount. Different people age differently. Also, accumulated injuries really affect some players like King, Anderson, Owen, and also Bale.

eddie
eddie
3 months ago

If these two players are the only ones I would be surprised.However if you have information to this affect then I should imagine Mourinho knows who the rats are too,which begs the question why are they even on the bench.

With one not trying and the other extremely prone to errors,there must beguys who can be picked who are more dependable.Why not promote from the world renowned academyat least you would expect some degree of endeavour.

As I have said previously there is a massive job to be done to get us up to the level we need to be at.But that requires significent investment and the movinng on of deadwood,at a loss if necessary.Is Levy up to it?

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago

Bale is on 3 or 4 times what other players are on, and does 3 or 4 times less. Of course it’s going to be a sticking point, it was always a mistake to bring him back. PR psychological minipulation of the fans(which they keep falling for) and it’s backfired big time.

Off football but very important, Johnson, Hancock etc have seemingly u turned and are making the jab mandatory for care home workers, defying the Nuremberg code, parliamentary confidence and human rights articles. Make no mistake. IT will be US next if the is ain’t stopped NOW. It’s disgusting and these monsters can’t be allowed to get away with this.

Last edited 3 months ago by Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

At this rate the rats will have as much choice as us…

They can try.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago

Oh and from Monday it’s illegal to leave the country without “good reason”

We are a prison island now. How long till the sleeping droves awake??

Last edited 3 months ago by Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Kevin Freund
Kevin Freund
3 months ago

europa league exit – without good reason

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago
Reply to  Kevin Freund

😀

legoverlass
legoverlass
3 months ago

They want to close our borders as well then as they should have done last March. Worzel coming on the tv yesterday and telling everybody it is inevitable that we will have a third wave. With his leadership and his cronies with their snouts in the trough, it is no wonder. If the Government had issued a national program of vitamin supplements of Vit C and Vit D, given advice on exercise and healthy nutrition plus taken the necessary measures quickly, and then not eased off so quickly last summer I wonder what the number of lost lives might have been now. Of course, there is no money to be made in vitamins but lots of dosh to be made in vaccines( ask Rishi about his stake in Moderna) especially ones in which suppliers refuse to accept any liabilities for adverse long term side effects in 3-4 years time. Not forgetting the cronyism of the supply of PPE equipment costing the taxpayer £12 billion. Read the info on the Medical Freedom Alliance to hear what some UK doctors, scientists, and lawyers are saying. https://www.ukmedfreedom.org/about

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago

Right on cue the downvotes….who are these people?. Pro mandatory vax? Nice. or on the clock?

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eddie
eddie
3 months ago

join the club

Toby Pierides
Toby Pierides
3 months ago

Like you, I don’t get who the untested vaccine lovers are. Not really a vaccine anyway as you can still catch it and pass it on. That is not the definition of one. And if one more mask clad goon leaps off the pavement to avoid my plague ridden carcass, I will scream.

Agree with Harry that Bale is stealing a living though…

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago
Reply to  Toby Pierides

Haha! I know, jumping in the road and all sorts…
Most people in real life are as concerned as me, it’s only these subjects online that gets immediate downvotes?? Maybe certain words trigger something? Who knows. The narrative must be protected…

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
3 months ago
Reply to  Toby Pierides

If we didn’t have vaccines the over 65’s would be huddled in their homes hiding from flu season each year instead of manning the checkouts at M&S – get real, vaccines are essential sheesh

eddie
eddie
3 months ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

I’m well over 65 and have never had the flu vax and to my recollection have never had the flu.My wife too.

Go figure.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
3 months ago
Reply to  eddie

Because you’re incredibly lucky that so much of the rest of the population have done the hard work to make it less prevalent – not sure if that’s ignorance or selfishness on your part but I’m afraid it’s one of them.

I’ve had the flu, you don’t want it. It’s not a ‘heavy cold’ – it’s a bed bound job, and that was me at 30 running half marathons. If this thing is worse you won’t want it either.

I’m guessing at least you accept the BCG is rather important?

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago
Reply to  eddie

My gran had flu in her mid 70s only 3 or 4 years ago… She gets her flu jab now mate.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

My mother’s 78 ,no flu vax….can’t remember last time she even had a sniffle. Anyway this is not about vaccines in general it’s about this particular one.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago

It’s being Forced that’s a no no

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SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
3 months ago

Ugh, she’s less likely to catch it because of the vaccines in the population – the concept is straightforward.

We’ve wiped out diseases because of vaccines, others we’ve controlled (like flu)- it’s not a conspiracy. People used to get TB, not nice :/

People shouldn’t be forced but for sure encouraged, war effort and all that – conscientious objectors, only conspiracy theories instead of God, ok – but the majority are needed here or we’re stuck.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

And that’s what their banking on. Those who don’t have it to look like it’s all their fault. “We’re doing our bit for Queen and country, why arent you”?? Etc etc

Race, religion, now vaccines. Divide divide divide.
Disturbing what they’ve achieved in 1 year.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
3 months ago

the people refusing are such a niche group no one will mind, you’re fine

most people will take it and move on, it’s literally just another vaccine

didn’t want TB…took a vaccine

didn’t want rubella…took a vaccine

over 60 and don’t want the flu…take a vaccine

this is pretty commonplace, the population getting vaccinated can cover the radical thinkers out there

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

I wouldn’t call myself a radical thinker. I declined a vax to a “virus” with 99% plus recovery rate, that doesn’t stop you spreading or getting said virus and is completely experimental and untested for long term effects(the people who developed them said that not me), it was even called “a technology” by one spokesperson. A technology that’s up to this point never been approved and has now only been approved through emergency legislation?!!
If that makes one selfish, radical or dangerous we are alllll f\@#$_d.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
3 months ago

it’s a vaccine

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

I can’t believe the reason I’m not sick now is not cos of a God given immune system, it’s cos wonderfull selfless people everywhere got a vaccine.

I can’t go on……😵

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
3 months ago

some people get a God given not very well working immune system – cmon, we can be bigger than ‘I’m alright Jack’, our society is better than that

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Basic common sense fails some people.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago
Reply to  Toby Pierides

The definition of a vaccine is a product that stimulates the immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease…. The Covid vaccine does this..

Last edited 3 months ago by Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
eddie
eddie
3 months ago

Maybe pro vaxxers are pro Bale.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago
Reply to  eddie

Likely.

eddie
eddie
3 months ago

The point you make in the first paragraph would suggest that a lot of the others are resentful of Bale’s attitude and that will have a knockon effect,it’s only human nature.

As soon as the season is finished get rid,he’s Madrid’s problem.They are desperate to offload him to free up funds for the likes of Haarland and M’Bappe,let’s see how they handle his return for another season.

Mandatory vaccinations was always the intention.Check out the “Agenda ID2020”.It’s just been ratified by the German government,just prior to Merkel shutting down the whole country for Easter.Expect something similar from Johnson.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 months ago
Reply to  eddie

Yes, there’s no China for Bale cos I think their leagues not doing too well and Madrid don’t want him so who knows what will happen? Golf probably. Am aware of the things you mentioned, the people must stand if or when they try this, coercion is working for em so we will see how long before they push it through.

eddie
eddie
3 months ago

As I understand it,the Chinese league has been severely regulated and the top salaries will be a thing of the past at season’s end.

There will be a mass exodus of players from there.So even that avenue is closed to him now.It looks like Real are left with the poisoned challis.

Another 30+M for playing golf is not too shabby though.

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