So what now for Tottenham and their oft-maligned squad, many of whom failed under not just Nuno, but Mason and Pochettino before him? What lies ahead is far from entirely certain. A good number of players are facing a bend or break scenario with a coach famed for a no-nonsense approach, which may result in a comply or die situation.
Working on the basis that the players may not suddenly spring into life, then Daniel Levy will need to either sell some of his failures for less than he may wish to, or release funds from another source.
What is going to obstruct any hope of success, is a repeat of ENIC’s reluctance to spend and refusal to let the head coach secure the players he feels he needs. Can the ENIC leopard change its spots?
Not only is this nostalgic and heart-warming, it gives some insight on how to rebuild and replace and what can happen given time and backed by the board. We have not been the same since Sydney Wale and Arthur Richardson stepped down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYZehfalQHI&t=1185s
There is no cheese room mate.. This was fake news before the stadium was built.. No cheese was in the plans.. Shame because I prefer to eat cheese rather than drink beer.
The first thing is to upgrade the midfield. I’m not convinced by Ndombele or Lo Celso. Both have show glimpses of ability, but by now we should be able to see some consistency. I don’t think it took Ardiles two years to settle in and in some respects, the league was a tougher proposition for foreign players back then.
Then we have PEH and Skipp who are both OK players who do a job. But both strike me as limited players, although perhaps Conte can improve them, particularly Skipp. However, I don’t know what the stats say, but sitting in the stand, it looked to me as though they and Moura contributed a lot of sloppy passes last night.
Given how poor our midfield is, it is not great to see talk of us trying to do deals that will see someone brought in on a free next summer. We need at least one in in January to get the improvement starting this season.
Then there’s Dier …….
I agree 100% with this. Levy is tossing a coin on his future and if it is not sincere he is just kicking the can down the road tbc.
I worry that theory 3 could indeed be the direction of travel. Baldini turned up when the Bale money was being redistributed for the M7. Spurs were robbed. The magic bean merchants seem to turn up at Spurs when the spoils are being divided.
You fancy a bit of that then?
Big money for players direct from Joe Lewis’s sky rocket? Nah. Conte accepting the same situation Maureen accepted? Very much doubt it. Conte & Parrot Itchy get all the cash from a Kane sale plus a bit more?
I’ll plump for that last one.
“best for the club” you are joking
“best for Enic” and this is not a baseless moan it is fact – £25m to £3.5bn in 23 easy steps
I agree. There is a certain class of negative clicker that is deserving of respect. It’s the stealthy negative clickers that give me the skitters. Them and the happy clappers
I’ve no problem with somebody clicking the neg icon. The problem I have is the fact they never offer any rebuttal.
Exactly what they clicking negative for. The whole post, or part there of 🤷🏻♂️
Dead wood being players and managers.
Depends on the January window I’d say.
He’ll yeah .
500/1
So you have now outed yourself as a negative clicker who is annoyed about being negatively clicked. I see.
I just hope any assurances he got from Levy are in writing and form part of his contract, only Levy speak with forked tongue.
I’ve negatively clicked 99% of your posts. Especially that drivel you kept posting about us beating Man U. I did, in most cases give a counter point of view which is more than the majority of Neg clickers do when it comes to matters ENIC & Levy.
in this case your experience is wrong hahaha
At this time Mourinho is no Conte
Mourinho was poor at best as you well know
Which Baldy as they both are… and me for that matter !
Claiming to have not clicked on my ‘latest post’ could be interpreted as an admission that you may have negative clicked my previous posts. If you hadn’t negatively clicked one, or several, of my previous posts you may have chosen to say ‘I haven’t negatively clicked on any of your posts’
Have you farted James?
Mourinho did
100% right
I haven’t clicked on your latest post. I’d admire your positively and I’d like to share it. ENIC have turned me and many others into cynical ol farts.
I’ve not said it’s a bad appointment. The issue is , as it’s always been under ENIC. Will they back the manager. 15 managers in and we know they don’t. !
In my experience when someone has leaked a silent fart the first thing they do is deny ownership.
Have you done a nice one Cyril?
I agree. My posts are being negatively clicked by the pesky negative clickers. Is it the happy clappers or something more sinister?
Could it be someone taking the pi55?
100% right. HH needs to out these scoundrels
Back on the Koolaid I’d say. 👍😳
What do you reckon the odds are of Spurs winning the League Cup, finishing 4th and Harry Kane getting the golden boot?
Agree MS. Once the dust has settled on this welcome surprise appointment it might be worth taking a closer look at the Premier League in general to give us a clue as to why Levy has acted like he has. He can’t have failed to note the recent changes in fortune for some teams that may have upset his top 6/8 “certainties”-which would have included us. Newcastle will soon become a power player because of their backers. West Ham have moved above us in the table and there is talk of an Israeli billionaire investing in them. A resurgent Arsenal lurking in the shadows. Man Utd may well move to change their manager if Ole doesn’t get into that top 4 again and soon. Don’t even mention Chelsea, City or Pool. The kitchen is getting hot. I personally think that Levy looked at all this and thought he has to do something and quickly. He needs a top 4/6 finish this term in order to pay for all these ex-managers littered about the place. What he has done doesn’t yet add up to a leopard changing it’s spots but like you said keep an open mind. I believe the player investment is a logical follow p to AC coming.
The Arse are playing Watford but then have;
Liverpool (A)
Newcastle (H)
Man United (A)
Everton (A)
Southampton (A)
Wet Spam have Liverpool but then have;
Wolves (A)
Man City (A)
Brighton (H)
Chelsea (H)
Burnley (A)
I’m not sure about the ESL but I think Levy wants to sell the naming rights for top dollar and I think he’s positioning the club for an eventual sale. Has to be in the Top 6 minimum and, hopefully, higher to extract the most value from the Club. This is a high stakes gamble from Paratici. If Conte walks, it will hurt us further in the search for the next ‘big’ manager. I just want to see better, more ambitious football.
Looking at the League table and the weekend fixtures; West Ham play Liverpool and United are playing City.
West Ham are currently 4th with twenty points; 5 points clear of Spurs. If Spurs beat Everton and West Ham lose to Liverpool it will be impossible for Spurs to be more than 2 points off 4th place.
Spurs sequence of league fixtures after Everton are
Leeds (H)
Burnley (A)
Brentford (H)
Norwich (H)
Brighton (A)
With Conte at the helm these games look a more attractive proposition this morning and take us to within two weeks of the January window.
I’m feeling much better. Am I deluded? Am I drinking the ENIC Koolaid?
Agreed, but does a manager of his stature come unless he has assurances, I do not think so
Cyril, it is a meaningless appointment unless he’s backed.
Relegation would hurt them, under Nuno we were going to flirt with it, sure of that – there’s a limit to what they can endure financially
I didn’t think he would agree to join us after the previous fiasco to appoint him and was of the opinion that Levy would appoint Mason as an interim manager until the end of the season, so I am pleasantly surprised. As many others have already posted, it depends how much control he has over recruitment and whether Levy will give him the necessary funds but I cannot believe that he would have accepted unless he had cast iron assurances. I am slightly surprised that he agreed to an 18 month contract even though there is an option to extend. I will keep an open mind as although I ask myself why should he succeed whilst Mourinho couldn’t, who incidentally has a better record than Conte, perhaps Mourinho had lost his way.
I found it quite amusing that Levy has had to pay out £14 million to dismiss NES,(possibly including his staff) and that he or rather we are still paying Mourinho. Another nail in Levy’s reputation as an astute businessman. His reputation in all football matters lies in tatters. It would be best for all if he slunk off into the dark shadows and kept an extremely low profile whilst allowing professional football men go about their business but I am not entirely hopeful that will be the case, more’s the pity.
So Conte arrives. Have to admit surprise but also slightly more excitement than H albeit I can clearly see that his reservations are well founded. There would appear to be mixed feelings on here about whether or not the leopard will change it’s spots-will Levy properly back his new manager? I’m inclined to think he has little choice as his own reputation is in free fall after a litany of gaffs. Conte will only be a parachute and slow things down if he gets what he wants in terms of player investment, otherwise he will create a stink. The game of musical chairs with managers has come full circle. There is one chair left. The managers cannot be blamed for Tottenham’s woes any more. Hopefully, this is coming more into focus now for all to see. Yes NES was the wrong decision but Conte? ENIC and Levy on notice.
Conte certainly is a good appointment.Until it all goes wrong.He won’t suffer any nonsense from Levy as I can’t believe he would have committed without cast iron guarantees.
I guess any new players he wants in will have to be experienced and ready to hit the ground running.There will be no punts for the future,not if he will try to turn things around in 18 months.I guess baldy blinked first.
That’s why most regular posters on here see the ENIC PR machine behind them,trying to sow negativity in the minds of people not embracing ENIC/Levy.No chance.
I am not the negative clicker, and you make some excellent points certainly around the Poch situation, but no one in there right mind can say this is not a fantastic appointment
And by the way Mourinho is not the manger he was 8 years ago he simply has lost whatever his edge was, he has not been considered for the top jobs for a few years now
It seems all the posts critical of Levy or ENIC have quickly received a couple of negative reactions over the last while, without so much as an effort to provide counterpoints.
Well wonders never cease !
This is so unexpected , didn’t expect to get this one over the line but now it’s happened, I approach with caution because of our recent history.
Persuading Conte to become the new manager is one thing but I desperately hope he has negotiated a deal that puts him firmly in charge of team selection, transfer targets and everything regarding players, which is the only way forward.
It will be interesting to see his team selections and who he leaves out, after judging the squad he has to work with.
Insert new name here….
Pointless.
Mourinho is still taking a wage so I gather.
So Mr negative clicker. Exactly what I’ve said is wrong ? Come on show yourself !
Exactly – no way he has come in without being able to call the shots.
The club are paying him a fortune. Mourinho was also one of the highest paid coaches when at Spurs, yet no success. If Conte fails then I hope everyone will be able to see where the problem lies.
Can’t see it. As long as the cheese room is full of punters every match day, ENIC and Levy will be sat back with some Brie on a Ritz cracker, glass of wine & counting the money coming in.
You could argue that Levy’s reputation has been low for the last 10 years. As i’ve always said. Money & cheese rooms talk ….the BS walks
I am amazed. Gonna be an interesting few months watching some of the wasters getting a good kick up the arse.
Spurs are either going to win stuff or Levy is going to be humiliated. Win win.
Conte, all well and good. But ! With ENIC there’s always a but !
Why should we believe this appointment won’t go the same way as the last 14. What do fans see in the ENIC manual of running a football club that makes them think, this time it will be different ?
If we take the view that this time it will be different. It begs the question. Why now ? What has changed Levy’s mind ?
He had in Pochetino a manager who performed miracles. In Jose he had one of the most successful club managers of all time. He refused to back them when needed. Poch in particular was left alone at the roadside when it came to bringing in good quality replacements for those who chose pastures new.
I don’t want to be THAT fan who never see’s anything positive in what the club does. However, call me cynical, but there’s absolutely no evidence that the current regime like a leopard who can’t change his spots is going to do anything different to what’s it’s done for it’s whole tenure so far.
Danny boy has to support Conte….the ENIC boys are at last chance saloon.
The abuse he received on Saturday was finally a wake up call which has clearly registered.
He is backed into a cul de sac with no escape if he doesn’t finally refresh our stale squad.
He’s also a wily old so & so and no doubt he is already thinking of ways to recoop his outlay by fleecing the very loyal fanbase.
haha what a surprise
Conte is a coup. A proper manager, an astute tactician and pure fire. I can’t see him signing without control over football matters and transfers. He is pragmatic and he will get right down to the basics which is exactly what we need… I’m sure Paratici will be working with Conte just fine, as they did at Juventus.. Of course Levy has to stay out of the football matters now.. I must admit H I threw my panties up in the air. I fully understand and value your opinions (even the odd time I don’t agree), you’re like a footballing father to me.. But I can’t help get excited by this. The man I’ve wanted at our club for years. He will need time and players have to come and go of course. I love the guy and have full faith in him. If Levy doesn’t back him then he’ll be gone in a flash, then I think the fans would fully turn.
Absolutely spot on!
What an appointment well done Mr Levy, considering very few thought few would come to Spurs
The pressure is still on Levy/ENIC because the elite resources, especially managers, are getting harder to acquire.
Why? Because Levy treats his manager’s like doo doo on his shoe leaving their reputation in pieces or he upsets owners so much they won’t get into a room to negotiate transfers.
We treat Conte poorly, his rep dips and he shoots his mouth off…what elite manager is coming next? How much danger money will he have to pay them? It’s getting make or break for them now, the club’s reputation is at an all time low
Exciting times ….. again. If he makes the 18 month mark we will have won something. If he doesn’t, then we are going nowhere. Don’t particularly like his aggression, but results do speak for themselves, so am very much looking forward to be proved wrong yet again
I also think that to a certain extent the booing echoing around his prize asset on Saturday had some impact, perhaps more than we think. Especially the “Levy Out” chants. At the end of the day he is still a human being with emotions (allegedly) and I think that really made him sit up and take notice. After all an unhappy fanbase is not going to spend the money it once did in better times is it?
This is the million dollar question; will Levy support a manager in the transfer market? His “support” in the past, with one or two minor exceptions, hasn’t amounted to much more than gambling on some cheap players that he saw as a possible investment for the future, plus some bargain basement stand-ins like Rodon and Doherty that he hoped would mask his inability to bring in players that the manager actually wanted. You know like Dybala and Fernandes that Pochettino asked for, but Levy was unable, or unwilling to deliver, the crazy part about that is the £10m he wasted on Clarke would have paid for Dybala’s infamous image rights problem wouldn’t it?
This nonsense won’t wash with Conte. If he tries to pull that stunt on the Italian Stallion it will end in tears. Either he supports Conte with class players that are already established and hence much more expensive, though in the long term actually better value when you consider the deadwood Levy keeps piling on the bonfire, or Conte walks. Simple as that.
I agree with your analysis of the Conte appointment. I also agree that he will need money or at least some clever activity in the transfer market.
The one thing i disagree with is that the pressure is on Levy & ENIC. Levy & ENIC have made huge mistakes over the last 22 years and have never been held accountable or thrown themselves on their swords. That’s not how they operate. They do what is best financially for the club and nothing else matters. The only reason Levy has now bitten the bullet and hired Conte is because of the European Super League. We need to be higher up the table to even justify being in the ESL conversation. This is the main concern for Levy & ENIC. Don’t fool yourself that Levy is tired of walking passed an empty trophy cabinet or that he really wants the best for us fans. He isn’t and he doesn’t.
This is about positioning Spurs at the top table. Nothing more and nothing less.
The pressure as it always is, is on Conte, Paratici and the players.