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These 2 substandard Spurs boys managed to lose possession 30 times between them against mighty Brentford

By Harry Hotspur -
Ryan Sessegnon misplaced passes

There’s a pattern emerging at Tottenham Hotspur – that when we play sides when in free-fall – blushes are spared, inconsistencies are temporarily papered over. We thump Everton, Leeds, and Newcastle and a top-four finish is something we deserve. Something we’ve earned.

Emerson Royal misplaced passes

Then when we come up against a team that is not essentially malfunctioning, then we don’t stand up to too much scrutiny.

I take a view that there’s a reason that Barcelona flipped Emerson Royal. I take a view that there’s a reason that there were no serious other suitors for Ryan Sessegnon. Over a billion pounds sunk into the stadium and associated infrastructure, and yet the core thing, the thing our fanbase pays top dollar for, is reduced to churning out this class of product.

We were told that the remaining games were cup finals. In which cup final would any coach pick these two wholly inept underachievers? Answer – a coach with no other options – you’re welcome.

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Mark p
Mark p
3 months ago

So now it’s AC fault?, no wonder Leavy stays in power. Zeus couldn’t get theese bums to perform.

JPG466
JPG466
3 months ago
Reply to  Mark p

AC has to share the blame in these last two games.. no plan B.. no guts… adding a forward with only 4 mins to go ‘to continue to have a good balance’.

These ‘bums’ can perform if they’re set up properly and given courage

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  JPG466

He did have COVID ..

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Actually I think Royal has had it from his first game.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Once he took the Barca shirt off his skills went with it…that’s how cunning the Catalans are..

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

He runs like he’s had something sucked out of him.

JPG466
JPG466
3 months ago

Conte when asked if Bergwijn would have made a difference, had this to say : ‘But don’t forget sometimes the most important thing is to continue to have a good balance because otherwise if you want to go only to win then sometimes you risk to lose the game.’

He can take this gutless mentality to PSG for all I care.. give me back Poch any day over this whining fake.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  JPG466

I believe Poch was widely under-rated by many. It was incredible what he achieved despite the usual lack of backing from Levy which included a record 500 days without any signings. When you think he got us 4 years on the trot of CL despite playing in Europe each season and to CL runners up it was pretty amazing.

Paddio
Paddio
3 months ago

He got slated for not getting his teams over the line.
He repeated this two often, plus he created a media circus around RM interest, if he was retiring after CL final if he won etc etc, which no doubt fed to the side.
He got caught up with his own importance.
Levy is a leach to success at the club 100%.
Poch got the right amount of credit when at the club,
But in sport 2nd is the first loser.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Paddio

He still got us top 4 four years running which is Levy’s holy grail, he did it whilst bogged down with European football too. Tell me how close Mourinho got – 7th. Tell me will Conte get it despite 3 new quality signings? Dubious – maybe. Both so called “super managers” without midweek European football to distract them too.
The squad was depleted under Levy’s shenanigans and whittled down to a skeleton squad which is why an injured Kane had to play in the CL final. That wasn’t Poch’s fault.
Have Mourinho and Conte made us the 2nd best team in the prem or the 2nd best team in Europe? Nowhere near, we’ve gone downhill significantly. Sacking Poch was pointless then wasn’t it?
Those who wanted Poch sacked – be careful what you wish for.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago

Having said that I don’t think he should return. Never go back. He undoubtedly was the beneficiary of some good young players which he coached very well to high levels to make us the talk of Europe and should be thanked for that.
But I don’t think he could sort out this current lot without major surgery. My fear would be that Levy would see him as a cheap option thus avoiding major spending, and see him as a patsy when the inevitable failure came.
Of course Levy should never have sacked him, but backed him instead.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

I’d be fascinated to be a fly on the wall to hear what kind of conversation Levy and Poch would have ahead of any return.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

I rate Conte (whatever his methods are), but at the same time a manager like him is used to working with owners that put their club in the race to win things, not just tread water for 23 years. Which is why he’s being linked with PSG, Juve and Madrid…

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East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Paddio

This isn’t about the credit he did or didn’t get, it’s all about the behaviour of our poxy owners that ultimately decided things. Now we aren’t even getting anywhere near any of the lines one is required to get over.

Pochettino for all his quirks, was able to work with all of the many obstacles Levyland presented and still deliver our consistently highest ever league places. In the modern era, let alone the Premiership era. So what if he didn’t win either the F.A Cup or League Cup? Who’s fault is that if the squad wasn’t deep enough to cope with all the competitions?

Honestly, I wasn’t that bothered about the domestic cups during his time so long as we played well in the Champions League etc. I felt if Baldy had backed him that we could have gone again to try and challenge for the league. I also reckon if he’d been backed that we could well have had the squad to win one of the domestic pots too.

Last edited 3 months ago by Easty
JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
3 months ago

But ! He’s now at a club where monies no object and he’s not exactly setting the world on fire.

Yes, he did well for us. But he’s not great. Great managers win stuff

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Nobody will succeed at that crocked club. Look at Tuchel and he got the CL after leaving that sh1tshow. Besides Poch has just won the French league and cup. How awful, sack him!

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

TBF he’s won domestic trophies with them. Tuchel couldn’t win the CL with PSG but he won it with Chelsea, that says a lot.
A great manager will fail to win stuff under Levy and enic. Mourinho and Conte?
I doubt we’ll ever win stuff under Levy and enic but being one of the best teams in Europe went a long way to making up for it.
Poch would at least use the academy unlike Mourinho and Conte who just keep flogging the same tired old horses. They can’t adapt.

Last edited 3 months ago by Glory Costs Too Much
Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

And then Levy shat on his head …why would Poch stay around to let it dry..

Last edited 3 months ago by Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Conte 2/1 on to go to PSG this summer..Cilppedy Clopp.

Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

If Poch returns I will be more disgusted with him than Levy. Sell out.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

Wouldn’t surprise me tbh, Levy would see him as cheap option to placate some of the fanbase. He’d be mad to work for Levy ever again after the little parasite screwed him over. Why he sacked him in the first place god only knows, should of backed him.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
3 months ago

Conte seems extremely inflexible in his tactics. He appears to be dependent on this fable of having good wingbacks which we don’t have. His substitutions are generally late in the game if at all, and he doesn’t seem keen to blood many of our celebrated youth academy prospects. We had Walker and Rose whom I considered good FBs but would they have been good WBs? I have asked this question before but can somebody please explain to me the difference between FBs and WBs? Liverpool and Man City generally play a flat back four. It does not appear to hinder their success by playing this formation most of the time. When the opposition realise that if you stop Kane and Son, we have little to offer offensively, we struggle. I am going to raise the possibility that perhaps Conte is not some tactical genius that can deliver the promised land to the Spurs faithful. Conte is a practical stopgap to allay the minor signs of discontent amongst the faithful. Levy is not impervious to criticism as was evidenced when he was booed during NES ‘s last home game. Just out of interest, despite what is relayed in the MM , why, despite the amount of interest being displayed in the Chelsea auction, mainly from US investors, have there not been any approaches for our club as far as we know? We are a dysfunctional mess that shows no signs of being reversed after twenty three years of self inflicted failure.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

100% with you there.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Because Levy will want to maintain control.

Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Perhaps Conte wants to get fired? Seen something he knows will hinder his chances of success, perhaps? Wonder what that might be…..

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

🤥🤥🤥

Paddio
Paddio
3 months ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

If you think we struggle, it can be worse with a back four and it doesn’t take long to get that evidence.
Weve not the personnel to have much difference in systems nor their ability to drastically change it up.
The options that do bring flexibility for Conte we don’t have, look at his tweaks at Inter and you’ll see, but one striker he’s nowhere to go. We all called that even in the summer before Conte was around.
Sessegon on reflection lacked execution, he was in the right places at the right time if I’m taking a positive from his display just his execution in nearly every moment was not as required. If he can tackle robustly and cross decently it would have been…. But if my aunt was born a man she may well have still been my aunt.
Execution and application, and not the system was the issue.

JPG466
JPG466
3 months ago

Same as the Brighton game, the lack of creativity was again so evident… sub-standard wing backs and holding midfielders who simply hold and nothing else… in both these games we badly needed a plan B around the 60th min.. bring in Stevie or Lucas vice one of the middle four.. get Kane to drop deep and let him do the assists since no other player was capable of assisting him for a full hour.

In the three games before these last two shoddy displays, we scored 12 goals with Kane assisting 5 of them.

So why does Conte bring on Lucas only in the 86th min yesterday, and again why in the Brighton game his substitutions were only like for like .. i.e. no extra punch up front.

Conte not looking at all courageous in games he himself termed as finals.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Much of the French Sports media claim Poch is to be sacked soon..and that Levy has been courting him for months..nice .Must have delighted Antonio..I would say Conte’s Plan B is get the fak out of Tottenham.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Yeah he’s just won the title with them and they want him gone. Wish we had that problem.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

Conte won’t be prepared to continue the 23 year ‘project’ when he could get a job at a club who’s owners actually want to win something. No chance…

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

Rumours of Conte to PSG ..though their fans booed not only Poch..Messi..Ramos..and Neymar also received the treatment, and they had just won the league. Maybe they will have to take Zidane if he will go ..as he is more used to managing ego’s..even then Juve are interested in our current manager.

Last edited 3 months ago by Billy Tonsils
Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

That’s just the bloody French, they hate everybody.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

😂

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Good point..

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

From what I’ve read, the PSG fans have turned most of their attention onto the owners, Leonardo and the players. They’ve seen Tuchel get booted for not winning the C.L too and go on to win it four months later with another club. Most of them know that the problems go way beyond anything within a coach/manager’s direct influence…

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

Don’t seem to be impressed with the ageing pop tarts bought in by the board ..you’re right there ..everyone is getting it.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

Don’t blame him, was surprised he came in the first place tbh, don’t know how the snake oil salesman convinced him the second time, no doubt he lied as usual. I just hope we don’t spend £100m on players for Conte’s WB system if he’s going, or we’ll be back to square pegs in round holes again if the new manager plays a different style.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

I’m still of the opinion that Conte is little more than a glorified caretaker manager. Levy is paying him very well, as he did Jose. That’s why these people come…

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

An 18 month contract..does look like that..With a break clause this summer according to some .
Elite coaches maintain profile give a strong waft of hope before the reality of how thin and poor the squad actually is..and of course they receive assurances about incoming player to match the amazing surrounds and when that doesn’t happen the plans for flats etc etc get announced you may as well be there for the money…..Levy seems to to sour the sole of every coach he hires…He is pox on the club.

Last edited 3 months ago by Billy Tonsils
East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Levy seems to think that just because we’ll never ‘do a Leeds’ under his tenure, means that he and ENIC should be fully admired, wherever they go.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

We have done a Leeds mate ..just the repayment terms are better and we have a bigger ground rather than excellent players…this the irony of it all.

Last edited 3 months ago by Billy Tonsils
Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

And unfortunately unlike covid there is no vaccination for Levyitus.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

Yeah probably, just an appointment to get the fans off his back following the “Levy out” chants. Temporary relief for the bald shyster.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

Didn’t they win the French Cup too? I’m not sure there’s massive heat on the manager, from outside the boardroom.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

What I mean is, that the board sack the coaches and the PSG faithful might now be beyond purely blaming the coaches. After Tuchel and what he went on to do within months at Chavtastic, I think the heat is now much more on the board, players and Leonardo.

You don’t have players of that calibre and coaches of these obvious levels of competence and still continue fail in your objectives (in their case winning the C.L), unless there’s something wrong with the culture.

I even think Zidane would be clutching at straws, however, his success with the galacticos at Madrid and being French seems to be the basis of the theory about him and PSG. Who knows, might be the formula, if not where do they go next? Big Sam?

Last edited 3 months ago by Easty
at large
at large
3 months ago

It’s been kind of said here, but not really, so I’ll say it more clearly. If Conte doesn’t have acceptable wingbacks, which he doesn’t, then he must change the system. A good manager should play his 11 best players, and alter the system to fit the personnel, at least for the time being. Why not play 4231 with maybe even Sanchez at RB, Davies on the left and Dier/Romero as CB. Then PEH can drop down if needed, a formation where he’s better anyway. Play PEH and Bent in front, then Kulu, Stevie/Lucas and Sonny behind Harry. Get the 11 best players on the pitch.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  at large

He does have a surprising lack of a plan-b.

at large
at large
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

It thus makes sense that Conte has never taken over a club midseason as he needs time to install his system and stock it with system players. There is no plan B. Which is why he’ll never last here because with Levy you need a plan for every letter in the alphabet.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  at large

To put it another way, turd polishing isn’t Conte’s forte…

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Clippedy Clopp..

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago

The team live and die together. Kane and Son routinely go missing in big games.. Only Hugo Lloris and Romero performed well in the last two games. Brighton and Brentford was a big chance to get a foothold in the race.. We have a few tidy players, but seriously lack leaders, warriors, players with the winning mentality. Highly disappointing.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

Keep Kane and Son quiet and what else do we have going forward? They’re routinely shackled these days and the only plan Conte has to get around it seems to be counter attacks. We need to press up more when it’s required.

Last edited 3 months ago by Easty
Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago

Yes Son and Kane are the problem. Good God, engage brain.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

They’re the best two players in the team in terms of doing decisive things like scoring goals. Who else steps up when they are denied space? Do Romero, PEH etc steam forward and put people through or score headers from set pieces via pure strength of character? There are many others to call out before them methinks…

Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

I mean to suggest those two are problems blows my mind. The Killer knows best though…..

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

No comment.

Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

None needed. I’m tired of the numbskulls constantly making excuses for ENICs failures. A few wins against pathetic opposition and we should all believe Levy has got it right? I will never set foot in that toilet bowl until Levy has gone. Sadly that may not happen in my lifetime as the mugs are keeping him in gainful employ.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

’believe’, glory’, ‘we do things differently, ‘best stadium in the world’ ‘world class training facilities’, ‘Bale’, ‘World class managers’ ‘local community’ ‘the academy’ and ‘more glory’ are the myths and meaningless drivel the Levyland!’ PR machine spin out.

The reality; is ‘chaos’, incompetence’, ‘f*cked up priorities’ ‘failure’ and ‘huge debt’… generational’ debt’ for that matter.

The drongos need to stop with their happy-clappy attitude towards the eighth richest club in the world that has won a single minor trophy in the last 23 years.

It’s just embarrassing…

Last edited 3 months ago by Easty
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

I’m not even tired of you 🔔🔄️.. I laugh at your horse💩 and sly name calling… Mr Heung Min knob.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

That’s a surprise. You comment on every comment across the board. Is it because the conversation isn’t about Botch?

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

Hehe.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago

🙈

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

I never said they were ‘problems’, but they are certainly part of the reason that they haven’t won anything.. Try watching the last 3 finals they both played 90 mins in.. They both bottle it on all 3 occasions. Wonderful players but both lack that winning mentality which separates the best at the top. Big players turn up in the big games… Because they are the two best players we have (along with Romero and Lloris) we rely on them far too much. Of course Kane failing to score in all four of his finals including the Euros isn’t his fault at all is it… Its his job man… When we really need to score against Brighton and Brentford, when the heat really turns up then what’s just happened? Try looking at the facts or even watch games again Mr Son. You’re not related are you?

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

They are flat track bullies.. Both fail to turn up in the big games… Engage your brain and tell me one final that Kanes turned up in?

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

To be a bit fair to Sessingnon, he’d been out injured since Everton. He looks ok on occasion and is still relatively young, although is he cut out for this level? He needs to step it up soon. Royal seems like a complete dud so far, I’d have preferred the Japanese boy who went to Woolwich, looks more solid.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
3 months ago

The whole bloody club is substandard…

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Correctamundo. The only thing that isn’t is (most) of the fans…

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

What about the beer glasses that fill through Levy’s bottom..

Last edited 3 months ago by Billy Tonsils
Eddie
Eddie
3 months ago

If we can see the weakness in our WBs then so can Conte.Yes he does seem not to have a plan B,but he will know that our problems will not be sorted out in the summer window.
He walks.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago

If Everton go down we should grab Gordon and Pickford. Maybe if we buy 2 we’ll get 1 free?

Eddie
Eddie
3 months ago

Agree about Gordon,terrific little player,just what we need.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  Eddie

No chance, Gordon runs at players, we don’t do that.

SimonSpur
SimonSpur
3 months ago

Spot on! Our system is dependent on good wing backs, especially when there are congested central areas like we saw in yesterday’s game. Currently we don’t have those. Sessegnon was as bad as Royal yesterday. Doherty was showing improvement but then got injured. His absence may be having some bearing on our loss of form.

Tangangry
Tangangry
3 months ago
Reply to  SimonSpur

I’ve been saying this for 6 months. Conte’s system is dependant on world class full backs, and ours are absolute dross.

SimonSpur
SimonSpur
3 months ago
Reply to  Tangangry

If Conte stays and we can, somehow, buy good left and right wing backs in the summer, should we be optimistic?

Last edited 3 months ago by Ragnar
Andrew
Andrew
3 months ago
Reply to  SimonSpur

No. We need a lot more than two good wing backs.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrew

We also need a central defender, a central midfielder and a better forward than Bergwjin and Moura, who could also cover centrally for Kane if needed. As a bare minimum.

Last edited 3 months ago by Easty
Limerick AL
Limerick AL
3 months ago
Reply to  SimonSpur

No.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  SimonSpur

It’s attracting such players..Spence from Boro via Forest ..though I think they will make the play offs so who knows.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  Tangangry

Yet he won’t try something different even with twenty minutes to go.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  SimonSpur

Conte’s system particularly. Although Walker and Rose were never replaced. I thought Reggie looked like the real deal for some time, not sure what’s happening with him…

Paddio
Paddio
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

You do remember Davis out performed Rose when he got his first big injury.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  Paddio

Davies is a bad player, I don’t see that as reflecting badly on Rose.

Slacky
Slacky
3 months ago

We are going to wind up swapping Conte for Poch in the Summer, re-signing Eriksen and Bale plus some punts at wingback from Championship and perhaps another freebie. Project 2.0

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Slacky

Levy will bring back NodBelly and Lo NoShow and present them as new signings.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Yep….

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

It’s inevitable…

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  Slacky

Project 8.0

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
3 months ago

Toured the various blogs on YouTube last night. It’s all still to play for I hear. Arsenal will drop more points, anything could happen at Anfield, its not over until its over. Self delusion is unbelievable.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago

Me too, unbelievable nonsense a lot of them speak. Sort of a “bigging each other up” joint orgasm. Apparently because we’ve go Conte we will do it, never mind the evidence to the contrary.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
3 months ago

Big up to you too and don’t forget the “Superchats”, it really helps the channel. 😁

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago

Ah yes the infamous superchat which basically translates as “gimme a fiver you mug”. Hope H doesn’t bring that in.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago

The way Conte was paraded around when he came in was an obvious attempt to hype up his appointment as much as possible. It was the same when Bale cam on loan, it’s embarrassing.

it’s like an admission that them being at Spurs is some kind of ‘Klinsmann’ moment. Such a big deal that these people so associated with actual success have taken the leap over the chasm of failure, and associated themselves with Spurs.

Well, why not milk that sh*t to death?! 😂

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago

Wow, don’t you get enough on here ? 🤣

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

Self flagellation it’s called. 😅

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago

Each to his own 😊

SimonSpur
SimonSpur
3 months ago

Agreed. Arsenal will drop points I’m sure. By all accounts their win yesterday wasn’t necessarily reflective of the match, so bit fortunate.

Last edited 3 months ago by Ragnar
Eddie
Eddie
3 months ago
Reply to  SimonSpur

Bit like our draw with Brentford then.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  SimonSpur

Utd should have at least got a draw.

East Stand
East Stand
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

Yeah but you need luck too. Utd are pretty cr*p these days though, let’s face it…

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

They are a disgrace.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

But they didn’t AFC have had their blip…though I think Leeds will beat them..based on nothing more than I urinated on my left shoe for a split second last Tuesday..
On the downside I think Liverpool and Leicester will beat us unless the final of the Conference Plate, if they are in it, is the following weekend.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago

Another win for Burnley and Everton next away to Pool. Dele could have a chance to shine at his level next season – in the C-Ship.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago

And the chavs win without conceding.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

Funny pen though wasn’t it!

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago

I didn’t watch.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

Jorgino did his usual hop, skip and jump but keeper didn’t fall for it and it turned into a back-pass lol.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago

I don’t think players should be allowed to mess about with their run ups taking pens, and I don’t agree with the ball placing outside the semi circle at corners, but that’s me.

Eddie
Eddie
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

There was a corner in the scouse derby tonight where the ref made the player move the ball maybe two inches to be over the quadrant.Did that really make a difference?
I don’t know when the rule was changed to allow the ball to be olaced outside the quadrant.As you say it always used to be inside.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  Eddie

Yeh I noticed that, officials do check, I don’t see how it benefits or improves the game, my god if you can’t take a corner you shouldn’t be on the pitch.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

Steady on..

Eddie
Eddie
3 months ago

And against MK Dons as well.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Maximum ticket prices very poor squad..maximum capital assets..take it up the ar#e as Daniel intended… if you cannot accept or believe it watch the matrix..THFC the club I love is now a club for mugs..what is anyone going to do about it…

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Nothing, they’re all doing very nicely (money wise, players and owners), thank you.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Sad though ..

Whisky
Whisky
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Really sad and I blame the supporters who keep pumping money in this sad club, everytime levy has champagne with his breakfast he thinks to himself…ahh thank god for stupid fans that take my s##t and pay for my lovely luxuries. Cheers!!!

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
3 months ago

Teams are denying Kane, Son and Kulusevski possession and we have no other threat.

Two and a half world class players, Kane, Son, Lloris and a bunch of journeymen of varying quality.

If Conte stays with this dog and pony show fair play to him.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Serie A calling.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Or PSG.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

Be a mug to go there ..Three toxic Sombrero’s PSG, Utd and THFC.

Andy B
Andy B
3 months ago

The wingbacks required for Conte’s system need to have some football intelligence. Out of the four wingbacks only Doherty has football intelligence. The other three haven’t got a clue.

Conte seems unadaptable. He must know that the 3 remaining wing backs are not able to do what he wants, so why on earth does he keep playing the same system? Surely it would be better to play a different system with better players than a favoured system with only 9 effective players on the pitch.

It must be soul destroying to be an academy player at Spurs, knowing that you haven’t got a chance to play first team football while Conte is the manager. What is the point of Harvey White appearing on the bench every game and never getting an opportunity? What must Alfie Devine be thinking when he sees so many average players in the first team and he never gets a chance to show what he can do?

Why did Conte not change the attacking options yesterday when nothing was working? Not a single shot on target in over three hours of football. Kane not scoring in the last five games. Why not take Kane off and play Son, Bergwijn and Moura up front with Kulusevski just behind them creating stuff. There was no creativity. It couldn’t have been worse from an attacking sense.

Harry Redknapp would have gone for it and set up his team to score lots of goals. He would have thrown everything at Brentford. His teams always went for it and the football was exciting to watch. This football under the last three managers has often been safety first, boring football. Sometimes you have to take a risk and make things happen.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy B

Yes Conte must take a lot of the blame, repeating the same mistake over and over is not the sign of an adaptable manager. But like with Mourinho these top managers are used to having top players at their disposal and are a bit out of their depth if they haven’t.

Andy B
Andy B
3 months ago

Yes, I agree. You can include Carlo Ancelloti in that group as well.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy B

When a man like Conte , allegedly with 25 mil of his own money in whatever bank sits down infront of Levy , a man who cannot attract a manager and who has just sacked his last victim ..what do you think Levy says to him..We are going to give you 2 awful wingbacks to suit your game and we will skip the attacking midfielder as Kane will knock it into himself and finish with aplomb.
Levy is c#nt ..get over it ..boycott the club..the man is a Pariah.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

I sussed the little weasel out years ago.

Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Yes.

Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy B

Yes – they are all rubbish yet are far more successful than anyone ENIC put up. Maureen won trophies with that toxic Utd side. Maybe our problems go higher up than the managers who actually won stuff repeatedly.

Kosher Kid
Kosher Kid
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy B

I agree with most of this. I understand the 3 at the back but the two in midfield is killing us.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  Kosher Kid

Skipp being out has clearly been a pain ..but who is there to bring on I know Berg did some defensive stuff under Jose..I just can’t fathom why when Skipp is out someone relevant from the academy isn’t moved up to the bench ..isn’t this how they get their chance.

Whisky
Whisky
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy B

Totally agree, I noticed conte has one system and when it doesn’t work there’s no plan B. In his idea of substitutes seem weird, yesterday it seemed he was happy with a draw.

Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy B

Yes – it’s definitely Conte. He’s been awful elsewhere.

Spurfect One
Spurfect One
3 months ago

Massive red flag when Sessegnon recently come out and said he needed counseling to get to grips at playing at a massive club like Spurs, this guy has a weak mentality, everytime he plays he has a scared frown on the look of his face. The less said about Emerson the better, who the hell thought it was a good idea to buy this clown?

Last edited 3 months ago by Spurfect One
THFC
THFC
3 months ago
Reply to  Spurfect One

I’d suggest that realising he needed help, asking for help and then being comfortable to talk about it shows maturity, hopefully it helps him to gain confidence and improve his game. If he’s still not good enough then move him on, as with any other underperforming player.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  THFC

3 seasons Sess has produced nothing ..same sh#t same shirt..stop apologising for all our dross.

Last edited 3 months ago by Billy Tonsils
THFC
THFC
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Well then sack him for footballing reasons, going off on someone simply because they need counselling is totally moronic.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  THFC

Maybe he needs counselling because he doesn’t know what to do with all that money he’s getting?

THFC
THFC
3 months ago

If that’s the problem then I’ll take it off his hands haha

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  THFC

I have seen nothing to suggest Sess is going to be anything other than what he is now at Spurs ..garbage ..these people have agents to spout this drivel about needing counselling .Frankly I do not care what the reason is for his abject displays ..the guy is rubbish end of…and he has probably accrued more savings than I will in a lifetime ..get rid…and you sir are Spursy.

Last edited 3 months ago by Billy Tonsils
THFC
THFC
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

So his agent is just making this up? Sounds like you could be suffering with a bit of paranoia there bud, I think Sess knows someone who might be able to help you with that…or does he?

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  THFC

So you don’t think an agent will say to 50 to 60 grand a week Sess look mate make some sh#t up because you aren’t earning this money anywhere else pal…
Get over yourself.

THFC
THFC
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Just a joke billy boy, get over yourself.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  THFC

Don’t recall anyone helping Danny Rose.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago

And he was getting the living sh#t kicked out of him every week when he was decent.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Not sure he was, he caused a lot of his own problems with his dying swan diving antics.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

Have to agree to differ there ..

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  THFC

Well it’s not working, and I keep saying it but the character of a player is as important as their ability when judging new players you are interested in, something painfully overlooked by this club.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  Spurfect One

You are too polite ..he is either injured or crap..bin him off ..the sh#t in the shirt we are expected to put up with and the garbage we put up with to explain away the fact that they are fundamentally awful footballers.
The football doesn’t matter though ..Bright Bright Shiny New Stadium..mind you I thought Wembley looked great for the Fury fight . 94,000 you say ..Levy you complete and utter c#nt.

Tony Borg
Tony Borg
3 months ago

Considering Conte’s system relies heavily on full backs, our full backs are atrocious.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  Tony Borg

So try something else ?

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

No creative midfielder ..so going through the middle is tricky ..and easy to defend…we are just woeful.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Yep, I don’t think I’ve seen a team as bad for the lack of creativity.

Archibald&Crooks (SC)
Archibald&Crooks (SC)
3 months ago

Even the usual mugs arent gurning at their zoom screens telling us be careful what you wish for if Saint Joe pulls the plug as we dont want Mike Ashley.
I have put away my flat cap in shame.
It seems everyone has realised it was all a mirage and the real THFC has finally returned.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago

When was the last time we actually competed against another club for a good player? No we take the seconds that nobody else wants, that way Levy can take his sweet time about negotiating (trying to screw over) the other club.
The only time he pretends to move fast for a good player is at ST renewal time, but those deals always mysteriously fall through.

Archibald&Crooks (SC)
Archibald&Crooks (SC)
3 months ago

Gold has told us more than once this little gem.
Levy does not do a bidding war.
He only goes for players who nobody else is bidding on.
He has good connections to the club so I believe him.

Archibald&Crooks (SC)
Archibald&Crooks (SC)
3 months ago

What I cannot work out is this – you might lose and say (e.g.) “Hojbjerg worked his socks off today and didnt deserve to be on the losing side” but the last 2 games the whole team has looked poor. Why could Brighton not be a valiant loss
as I delight in saying “we were lucky to get 0”.
Is it a case of Plan A and Plan B is …pfzzzzzt
but I have heard this with so many managers even Pooch. What the hell is the matter.
It reminds me of the no show against Bindip FC in the CL.

Keith Browning
Keith Browning
3 months ago

If I crossed the ball into Row Z behind the goal of the Dog & Duck Sunday 4th XI, they wouldn’t ever serve me in the pub again. How can a professional footballer do that.

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  Keith Browning

Sissoko can, and he was shooting at the goal …well I think he was.

Slacky
Slacky
3 months ago
Reply to  Keith Browning

Exactly! I just couldn’t believe that. It’s incredible that him, Reguilon and Emerson are just so so so bad at creating chances and putting in crosses. I said at the start of the season that Emerson is literally no better than Aurier. I was told to give him a chance, “we wouldn’t pay Barca £25m if he wasn’t an upgrade blah blah blah”. I’d honestly have Serge in over Emerson and we gave him away for free.
So two ineffectual wingbacks. Dier was back to his old tricks, Hojbjerg is just a donkey, endlessly passing sideways and backwards yet pointing the direction he wants everyone else to pass to. And Conte did nothing. The usual throw Lucas on to reduce our incisiveness even more so.
Overall though what struck me most was the utterly woeful passing of ALL of our players. We couldn’t keep the ball unless we were passing to Dier or Loris. Buch of clownshoes.

Kosher Kid
Kosher Kid
3 months ago

Disagree regarding Sessegnon. He has played 17 games for Spurs in nearly 3 seasons. Before he came to Spurs he had scored 22 goals in 106 games for Fulham. 20 of these goals were in the Championship. 15 of those goals were in one season.

Sessegnon is a decent player who was 18 when Spurs signed him with 106 games under his belt. He was a brilliant prospect and a decent signing at the time. His regression at Spurs is a shameful indictment on the mismanagement of our club and the way young first team players in particular have been handled. I think his friendship with Dele probably played a part in his stagnation but playing under 4 different Spurs managers in three years and having a season on loan in Germany cannot have helped his progression, morale or confidence.

Conte should not have picked him and then hooked him in the manner that he did. Sessegnon’s head was down as he walked off the pitch. The time to replace him was at half time. That would have been an admission by Conte that he had made a mistake in selecting Sessegnon to play and would have protected Sessegnon from any criticism. Conte did too little too late yesterday and Spurs now have two left wing backs who know the manager doesn’t rate them before they put their shirt on.

I don’t care if Ollie Skipp only has one leg. We need him back in the team. If Conte doesn’t rate either Reguillon or Sessegnon for the remainder of the games then he should give Harvey White a chance at left wing back. He’s left footed and can take corners and free kicks. He could do worse than get Alfie Devine in to the squad too.

Glory Costs Too Much
Glory Costs Too Much
3 months ago
Reply to  Kosher Kid

So who else was in for Sess? Truth is he was a one season wonder in the C-Ship, why would that make him a top 4 player in the prem? He also looked very ordinary for Fulham in the top flight, in fact his form went off a cliff.

Kosher Kid
Kosher Kid
3 months ago

I think what you say is harsh. Sessegnon played on the right of a front three when he scored the 15 goals in the Championship season for Fulham. He is versatile and good enough to play wide on both sides. Fulham were poor when they were promoted back to the Prem and struggled. Sessegnon scored 2 goals in 35 games for them that season.

He’s played a total of 17 games for Spurs, in 3 years, under 4 managers. 10 of those games have been this season. He scored 2 in 23 on loan to Hoffenheim and did well for them too.

Sessegnon is 21 and will go on to be a decent player in my opinion. He has not progressed at Spurs which says more about Spurs than it does about Sessegnon.

Quality full backs / wing backs are of a premium at the moment. Left sided wing backs are rocking horse 5hit. There are not many good ones about. Sessegnon is worth persevering with.

Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago
Reply to  Kosher Kid

He’s poor. No grit and gets bullied. It’s Contes fault? Please.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  Kosher Kid

On the treatment tables.17 times in 3 years ..he is a massage freak..I care more about the team than I do about him and therefore he should go..Fulham are up ..maybe he can find some solace there.

Last edited 3 months ago by Billy Tonsils
Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Fulham won’t want him BT. They’ve mugged off the only idiot looking for the ‘next Bale’ in that wastrel.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  Sonificent

Lol

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  Kosher Kid

Sessegnon does not want to be at this club, he cannot cope.

Kosher Kid
Kosher Kid
3 months ago
Reply to  England Mike

That may be so. He doesn’t look happy. He was making a bit of progress before his last injury in my opinion. There was a steady improvement in his performances. I don’t rate Reguillon so I am biased. I want Sessegnon to nail down the left back position.

Notontheshelf
Notontheshelf
3 months ago

Well at least Conte got them off the park before the end of the game, but he should have done that at half time.
So between them, 7 (SEVEN) losses of possession in our own penalty area, and another 9 in our half. Shocking and unsustainable. Look at the wing backs we have had since Walker and Rose were in their prime; Trippier, Walker-Peters, Aurier, Davies, Reguillon, Emerson, Doherty, Sessegnon. Pretty uninspiring to say the least.
With the absence of a midfield playmaker since Dembele and Eriksen left, the wing backs have to make a significant attacking contribution in wide areas, but they don’t. Doherty was showing some glimpses before his injury, and Kulusevski does get forward down the wing and has made some decent crosses.
The more these sort of stats become public, the more opposing teams will target our weak links.
We are effectively starting each game with 9 or fewer outfield players given the ineffectiveness of the wbs.
I watched the Liverpool demolition of United. The Liverpool goalie plays on the edge of the penalty area when they have possession, and he frequently moves forward to become an extra CB sweeping up behind VanDyke and Matip. Giving Liverpool effectively 11 outfield players. Contrast with Lloris, stuck in his 6 yard area. The game at Anfield is going to be uncomfortable watching.

Lord Croker
Lord Croker
3 months ago
Reply to  Notontheshelf

Fenway Sports do not tolerate mediocrity.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
3 months ago
Reply to  Lord Croker

You have hit the nail on the head. I hate to write this but FSG have done everything right to achieve success on the pitch before starting to plan the increase of their attendance capacity. They appointed the right manager and backed his choices in the transfer market. They revamped their backroom analytical team and their overall transfer strategy. They have not been profligate with their money. Allison and Van Dijk were financed by the sale of Coutinho at the optimum price at the zenith of his form. They outbid us on Mane, Wijnaldum amd Luis Diaz because Levy faffs about, prevaricates and tries to drive the price down, leading to the inevitable falling out with the selling club which leads to our manager receiving a player he never wanted. The little shyster is is and has always been the hindrance to our success. How more years of utter failure and mediocrity must Spurs fans put up with?

England Mike
England Mike
3 months ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

As many years as he wishes, there is zero pressure on him from within and he has no interest in what the real fanbase think.

Sonificent
Sonificent
3 months ago

They were an embarrassment to the profession yesterday. That we nothing from the fabled academy to compete with those two chumps says it all. Levy out.

Mark p
Mark p
3 months ago

Flush that toilet bowl already

Paddio
Paddio
3 months ago

Im not sure what was going on the left, to often it seemed son and sessegnon where trying to be in the same space.
Obviously something from the training ground but it was clumsy.
Sergio is a better crosser out of two seemingly poor choices.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
3 months ago
Reply to  Paddio

Your last sentence is alarming..

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