There’s a pattern emerging at Tottenham Hotspur – that when we play sides when in free-fall – blushes are spared, inconsistencies are temporarily papered over. We thump Everton, Leeds, and Newcastle and a top-four finish is something we deserve. Something we’ve earned.
Then when we come up against a team that is not essentially malfunctioning, then we don’t stand up to too much scrutiny.
I take a view that there’s a reason that Barcelona flipped Emerson Royal. I take a view that there’s a reason that there were no serious other suitors for Ryan Sessegnon. Over a billion pounds sunk into the stadium and associated infrastructure, and yet the core thing, the thing our fanbase pays top dollar for, is reduced to churning out this class of product.
We were told that the remaining games were cup finals. In which cup final would any coach pick these two wholly inept underachievers? Answer – a coach with no other options – you’re welcome.
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I’m not even tired of you 🔔🔄️.. I laugh at your horse💩 and sly name calling… Mr Heung Min knob.
That’s a surprise. You comment on every comment across the board. Is it because the conversation isn’t about Botch?
I never said they were ‘problems’, but they are certainly part of the reason that they haven’t won anything.. Try watching the last 3 finals they both played 90 mins in.. They both bottle it on all 3 occasions. Wonderful players but both lack that winning mentality which separates the best at the top. Big players turn up in the big games… Because they are the two best players we have (along with Romero and Lloris) we rely on them far too much. Of course Kane failing to score in all four of his finals including the Euros isn’t his fault at all is it… Its his job man… When we really need to score against Brighton and Brentford, when the heat really turns up then what’s just happened? Try looking at the facts or even watch games again Mr Son. You’re not related are you?
They are flat track bullies.. Both fail to turn up in the big games… Engage your brain and tell me one final that Kanes turned up in?
I’d be fascinated to be a fly on the wall to hear what kind of conversation Levy and Poch would have ahead of any return.
I rate Conte (whatever his methods are), but at the same time a manager like him is used to working with owners that put their club in the race to win things, not just tread water for 23 years. Which is why he’s being linked with PSG, Juve and Madrid…
This isn’t about the credit he did or didn’t get, it’s all about the behaviour of our poxy owners that ultimately decided things. Now we aren’t even getting anywhere near any of the lines one is required to get over.
Pochettino for all his quirks, was able to work with all of the many obstacles Levyland presented and still deliver our consistently highest ever league places. In the modern era, let alone the Premiership era. So what if he didn’t win either the F.A Cup or League Cup? Who’s fault is that if the squad wasn’t deep enough to cope with all the competitions?
Honestly, I wasn’t that bothered about the domestic cups during his time so long as we played well in the Champions League etc. I felt if Baldy had backed him that we could have gone again to try and challenge for the league. I also reckon if he’d been backed that we could well have had the squad to win one of the domestic pots too.
Beautifully put
Davies is a bad player, I don’t see that as reflecting badly on Rose.
’believe’, glory’, ‘we do things differently, ‘best stadium in the world’ ‘world class training facilities’, ‘Bale’, ‘World class managers’ ‘local community’ ‘the academy’ and ‘more glory’ are the myths and meaningless drivel the Levyland!’ PR machine spin out.
The reality; is ‘chaos’, incompetence’, ‘f*cked up priorities’ ‘failure’ and ‘huge debt’… generational’ debt’ for that matter.
The drongos need to stop with their happy-clappy attitude towards the eighth richest club in the world that has won a single minor trophy in the last 23 years.
It’s just embarrassing…
He runs like he’s had something sucked out of him.
Once he took the Barca shirt off his skills went with it…that’s how cunning the Catalans are..
Wouldn’t surprise me tbh, Levy would see him as cheap option to placate some of the fanbase. He’d be mad to work for Levy ever again after the little parasite screwed him over. Why he sacked him in the first place god only knows, should of backed him.
TBF he’s won domestic trophies with them. Tuchel couldn’t win the CL with PSG but he won it with Chelsea, that says a lot.
A great manager will fail to win stuff under Levy and enic. Mourinho and Conte?
I doubt we’ll ever win stuff under Levy and enic but being one of the best teams in Europe went a long way to making up for it.
Poch would at least use the academy unlike Mourinho and Conte who just keep flogging the same tired old horses. They can’t adapt.
Hehe.
And unfortunately unlike covid there is no vaccination for Levyitus.
Yeah probably, just an appointment to get the fans off his back following the “Levy out” chants. Temporary relief for the bald shyster.
Having said that I don’t think he should return. Never go back. He undoubtedly was the beneficiary of some good young players which he coached very well to high levels to make us the talk of Europe and should be thanked for that.
But I don’t think he could sort out this current lot without major surgery. My fear would be that Levy would see him as a cheap option thus avoiding major spending, and see him as a patsy when the inevitable failure came.
Of course Levy should never have sacked him, but backed him instead.
Nobody will succeed at that crocked club. Look at Tuchel and he got the CL after leaving that sh1tshow. Besides Poch has just won the French league and cup. How awful, sack him!
He still got us top 4 four years running which is Levy’s holy grail, he did it whilst bogged down with European football too. Tell me how close Mourinho got – 7th. Tell me will Conte get it despite 3 new quality signings? Dubious – maybe. Both so called “super managers” without midweek European football to distract them too.
The squad was depleted under Levy’s shenanigans and whittled down to a skeleton squad which is why an injured Kane had to play in the CL final. That wasn’t Poch’s fault.
Have Mourinho and Conte made us the 2nd best team in the prem or the 2nd best team in Europe? Nowhere near, we’ve gone downhill significantly. Sacking Poch was pointless then wasn’t it?
Those who wanted Poch sacked – be careful what you wish for.
Actually I think Royal has had it from his first game.
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Skipp being out has clearly been a pain ..but who is there to bring on I know Berg did some defensive stuff under Jose..I just can’t fathom why when Skipp is out someone relevant from the academy isn’t moved up to the bench ..isn’t this how they get their chance.
Steady on..
And then Levy shat on his head …why would Poch stay around to let it dry..
He did have COVID ..
But ! He’s now at a club where monies no object and he’s not exactly setting the world on fire.
Yes, he did well for us. But he’s not great. Great managers win stuff
He got slated for not getting his teams over the line.
He repeated this two often, plus he created a media circus around RM interest, if he was retiring after CL final if he won etc etc, which no doubt fed to the side.
He got caught up with his own importance.
Levy is a leach to success at the club 100%.
Poch got the right amount of credit when at the club,
But in sport 2nd is the first loser.
I believe Poch was widely under-rated by many. It was incredible what he achieved despite the usual lack of backing from Levy which included a record 500 days without any signings. When you think he got us 4 years on the trot of CL despite playing in Europe each season and to CL runners up it was pretty amazing.
If you think we struggle, it can be worse with a back four and it doesn’t take long to get that evidence.
Weve not the personnel to have much difference in systems nor their ability to drastically change it up.
The options that do bring flexibility for Conte we don’t have, look at his tweaks at Inter and you’ll see, but one striker he’s nowhere to go. We all called that even in the summer before Conte was around.
Sessegon on reflection lacked execution, he was in the right places at the right time if I’m taking a positive from his display just his execution in nearly every moment was not as required. If he can tackle robustly and cross decently it would have been…. But if my aunt was born a man she may well have still been my aunt.
Execution and application, and not the system was the issue.
You do remember Davis out performed Rose when he got his first big injury.
AC has to share the blame in these last two games.. no plan B.. no guts… adding a forward with only 4 mins to go ‘to continue to have a good balance’.
These ‘bums’ can perform if they’re set up properly and given courage
So now it’s AC fault?, no wonder Leavy stays in power. Zeus couldn’t get theese bums to perform.
Conte when asked if Bergwijn would have made a difference, had this to say : ‘But don’t forget sometimes the most important thing is to continue to have a good balance because otherwise if you want to go only to win then sometimes you risk to lose the game.’
He can take this gutless mentality to PSG for all I care.. give me back Poch any day over this whining fake.
If Poch returns I will be more disgusted with him than Levy. Sell out.
None needed. I’m tired of the numbskulls constantly making excuses for ENICs failures. A few wins against pathetic opposition and we should all believe Levy has got it right? I will never set foot in that toilet bowl until Levy has gone. Sadly that may not happen in my lifetime as the mugs are keeping him in gainful employ.
Conte 2/1 on to go to PSG this summer..Cilppedy Clopp.
We have done a Leeds mate ..just the repayment terms are better and we have a bigger ground rather than excellent players…this the irony of it all.
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No comment.
Levy seems to think that just because we’ll never ‘do a Leeds’ under his tenure, means that he and ENIC should be fully admired, wherever they go.
Perhaps Conte wants to get fired? Seen something he knows will hinder his chances of success, perhaps? Wonder what that might be…..
Fulham won’t want him BT. They’ve mugged off the only idiot looking for the ‘next Bale’ in that wastrel.
I mean to suggest those two are problems blows my mind. The Killer knows best though…..
On the treatment tables.17 times in 3 years ..he is a massage freak..I care more about the team than I do about him and therefore he should go..Fulham are up ..maybe he can find some solace there.
But they didn’t AFC have had their blip…though I think Leeds will beat them..based on nothing more than I urinated on my left shoe for a split second last Tuesday..
On the downside I think Liverpool and Leicester will beat us unless the final of the Conference Plate, if they are in it, is the following weekend.
Project 8.0
It’s attracting such players..Spence from Boro via Forest ..though I think they will make the play offs so who knows.
Don’t seem to be impressed with the ageing pop tarts bought in by the board ..you’re right there ..everyone is getting it.
An 18 month contract..does look like that..With a break clause this summer according to some .
Elite coaches maintain profile give a strong waft of hope before the reality of how thin and poor the squad actually is..and of course they receive assurances about incoming player to match the amazing surrounds and when that doesn’t happen the plans for flats etc etc get announced you may as well be there for the money…..Levy seems to to sour the sole of every coach he hires…He is pox on the club.
Because Levy will want to maintain control.
They’re the best two players in the team in terms of doing decisive things like scoring goals. Who else steps up when they are denied space? Do Romero, PEH etc steam forward and put people through or score headers from set pieces via pure strength of character? There are many others to call out before them methinks…
100% with you there.
Conte seems extremely inflexible in his tactics. He appears to be dependent on this fable of having good wingbacks which we don’t have. His substitutions are generally late in the game if at all, and he doesn’t seem keen to blood many of our celebrated youth academy prospects. We had Walker and Rose whom I considered good FBs but would they have been good WBs? I have asked this question before but can somebody please explain to me the difference between FBs and WBs? Liverpool and Man City generally play a flat back four. It does not appear to hinder their success by playing this formation most of the time. When the opposition realise that if you stop Kane and Son, we have little to offer offensively, we struggle. I am going to raise the possibility that perhaps Conte is not some tactical genius that can deliver the promised land to the Spurs faithful. Conte is a practical stopgap to allay the minor signs of discontent amongst the faithful. Levy is not impervious to criticism as was evidenced when he was booed during NES ‘s last home game. Just out of interest, despite what is relayed in the MM , why, despite the amount of interest being displayed in the Chelsea auction, mainly from US investors, have there not been any approaches for our club as far as we know? We are a dysfunctional mess that shows no signs of being reversed after twenty three years of self inflicted failure.
Yeh I noticed that, officials do check, I don’t see how it benefits or improves the game, my god if you can’t take a corner you shouldn’t be on the pitch.
They are a disgrace.
Yes Son and Kane are the problem. Good God, engage brain.
Same as the Brighton game, the lack of creativity was again so evident… sub-standard wing backs and holding midfielders who simply hold and nothing else… in both these games we badly needed a plan B around the 60th min.. bring in Stevie or Lucas vice one of the middle four.. get Kane to drop deep and let him do the assists since no other player was capable of assisting him for a full hour.
In the three games before these last two shoddy displays, we scored 12 goals with Kane assisting 5 of them.
So why does Conte bring on Lucas only in the 86th min yesterday, and again why in the Brighton game his substitutions were only like for like .. i.e. no extra punch up front.
Conte not looking at all courageous in games he himself termed as finals.
Your last sentence is alarming..
Yes.
Yes – they are all rubbish yet are far more successful than anyone ENIC put up. Maureen won trophies with that toxic Utd side. Maybe our problems go higher up than the managers who actually won stuff repeatedly.
Yes – it’s definitely Conte. He’s been awful elsewhere.
No.
To put it another way, turd polishing isn’t Conte’s forte…
What I mean is, that the board sack the coaches and the PSG faithful might now be beyond purely blaming the coaches. After Tuchel and what he went on to do within months at Chavtastic, I think the heat is now much more on the board, players and Leonardo.
You don’t have players of that calibre and coaches of these obvious levels of competence and still continue fail in your objectives (in their case winning the C.L), unless there’s something wrong with the culture.
I even think Zidane would be clutching at straws, however, his success with the galacticos at Madrid and being French seems to be the basis of the theory about him and PSG. Who knows, might be the formula, if not where do they go next? Big Sam?
Totally agree, I noticed conte has one system and when it doesn’t work there’s no plan B. In his idea of substitutes seem weird, yesterday it seemed he was happy with a draw.
Really sad and I blame the supporters who keep pumping money in this sad club, everytime levy has champagne with his breakfast he thinks to himself…ahh thank god for stupid fans that take my s##t and pay for my lovely luxuries. Cheers!!!
Tell the current Chelsea gaffer that ☺️
It thus makes sense that Conte has never taken over a club midseason as he needs time to install his system and stock it with system players. There is no plan B. Which is why he’ll never last here because with Levy you need a plan for every letter in the alphabet.
There was a corner in the scouse derby tonight where the ref made the player move the ball maybe two inches to be over the quadrant.Did that really make a difference?
I don’t know when the rule was changed to allow the ball to be olaced outside the quadrant.As you say it always used to be inside.
He’s poor. No grit and gets bullied. It’s Contes fault? Please.
Good point..
I’m still of the opinion that Conte is little more than a glorified caretaker manager. Levy is paying him very well, as he did Jose. That’s why these people come…
Didn’t they win the French Cup too? I’m not sure there’s massive heat on the manager, from outside the boardroom.
Don’t blame him, was surprised he came in the first place tbh, don’t know how the snake oil salesman convinced him the second time, no doubt he lied as usual. I just hope we don’t spend £100m on players for Conte’s WB system if he’s going, or we’ll be back to square pegs in round holes again if the new manager plays a different style.
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From what I’ve read, the PSG fans have turned most of their attention onto the owners, Leonardo and the players. They’ve seen Tuchel get booted for not winning the C.L too and go on to win it four months later with another club. Most of them know that the problems go way beyond anything within a coach/manager’s direct influence…
That’s just the bloody French, they hate everybody.
Yeah but you need luck too. Utd are pretty cr*p these days though, let’s face it…
The way Conte was paraded around when he came in was an obvious attempt to hype up his appointment as much as possible. It was the same when Bale cam on loan, it’s embarrassing.
it’s like an admission that them being at Spurs is some kind of ‘Klinsmann’ moment. Such a big deal that these people so associated with actual success have taken the leap over the chasm of failure, and associated themselves with Spurs.
Well, why not milk that sh*t to death?! 😂
Rumours of Conte to PSG ..though their fans booed not only Poch..Messi..Ramos..and Neymar also received the treatment, and they had just won the league. Maybe they will have to take Zidane if he will go ..as he is more used to managing ego’s..even then Juve are interested in our current manager.
What about the beer glasses that fill through Levy’s bottom..
Conte won’t be prepared to continue the 23 year ‘project’ when he could get a job at a club who’s owners actually want to win something. No chance…
It’s inevitable…
Yeah he’s just won the title with them and they want him gone. Wish we had that problem.
Much of the French Sports media claim Poch is to be sacked soon..and that Levy has been courting him for months..nice .Must have delighted Antonio..I would say Conte’s Plan B is get the fak out of Tottenham.
We also need a central defender, a central midfielder and a better forward than Bergwjin and Moura, who could also cover centrally for Kane if needed. As a bare minimum.
He does have a surprising lack of a plan-b.
No. We need a lot more than two good wing backs.
Keep Kane and Son quiet and what else do we have going forward? They’re routinely shackled these days and the only plan Conte has to get around it seems to be counter attacks. We need to press up more when it’s required.
Conte’s system particularly. Although Walker and Rose were never replaced. I thought Reggie looked like the real deal for some time, not sure what’s happening with him…
Correctamundo. The only thing that isn’t is (most) of the fans…
It’s been kind of said here, but not really, so I’ll say it more clearly. If Conte doesn’t have acceptable wingbacks, which he doesn’t, then he must change the system. A good manager should play his 11 best players, and alter the system to fit the personnel, at least for the time being. Why not play 4231 with maybe even Sanchez at RB, Davies on the left and Dier/Romero as CB. Then PEH can drop down if needed, a formation where he’s better anyway. Play PEH and Bent in front, then Kulu, Stevie/Lucas and Sonny behind Harry. Get the 11 best players on the pitch.
Have to agree to differ there ..
Clippedy Clopp..
Yep….
Levy will bring back NodBelly and Lo NoShow and present them as new signings.
I don’t think players should be allowed to mess about with their run ups taking pens, and I don’t agree with the ball placing outside the semi circle at corners, but that’s me.
The team live and die together. Kane and Son routinely go missing in big games.. Only Hugo Lloris and Romero performed well in the last two games. Brighton and Brentford was a big chance to get a foothold in the race.. We have a few tidy players, but seriously lack leaders, warriors, players with the winning mentality. Highly disappointing.