According to Antonio Conte, the government enforced the temporary closure of Hotspur Way. If true, this is a new one on me. Yet the Premier League are refusing to postpone games? Something evidentially isn’t right.
After so many days lost to hybrid flu, it feels odd to be doing what ought to be the mundane once again. That said, the fatigue hangover for me is still very much ongoing. So we’ll be continuing to publish on an ad hoc basis. A million thanks for all the get well soon/ aren’t you dead yet? type messages.
What I was glad to miss out on was the endless round of utterly pointless updates from reporters that really should have known better. Unless, of course, one French football club does actually hold the casting vote in UEFA’s decision-making process.
Perhaps much of the confusion could be lifted if the people allowed access to the clubs were intellectually in a position to ask better questions? Just a thought…
Reduce transmission to what degree? What they mean is if people have less symptoms so they won’t have the viral load to pass on to others, mucus and snot to you and I. Most people that have had both jabs, get the flu symptoms if they get Covid again.
infection rate went down over the summer, because they would do anyway and I’m extremely sceptical at the vaccination program of the spring and summer was the reason why.
No justification for the booster on the basis of spread, when dealing with the spread of a heavily mutated version.
The vaccines and boosters, seem to stop the vulnerable becoming very sick. It stops the virus overcoming the immune system. For everyone else who are not vulnerable, and for the spread of all the strains, I’ve yet to see any solid evidence that there is any direct and significant benefit to the individual. Or the wider population…
Not when the government order a shut down. Danny boy would have no say.
Carl Henegan & Sunetra Gupta
Danny boy would have had to consent.
No more so than in football.
It’s off now…
Look for the truth and the actual science, not the government’s interpretation of it, US…
This is from an article in the Guardian back in August , I tried posting a link but it is awaiting approval. Anyway, this is the biggest take-away from it. He basically rubbishes the current booster ‘strategy’:
“The time we would need to boost is if we see evidence that there was an increase in hospitalisation – or the next stage after that, which would be people dying – amongst those who are vaccinated. And that is not something we are seeing at the moment,” he said.
“Even if vaccine-induced antibody levels waned, our immune systems would probably remember the vaccination for decades and offer a degree of protection if exposed to the virus, he said. “So, there isn’t any reason at this moment to panic. We’re not seeing a problem with breakthrough severe disease.”
This guy is a government adviser, yet they tell us vaccines do help to stop spread, they’re ignoring what doesn’t fit their agenda…
Giving evidence to MPs on Tuesday, Prof Sir Andrew Pollard said the fact that vaccines did not stop the spread of Covid…
Daily deaths are going down continuously, their reasons are all based on some flakey ‘worse case scenario’ and not actually what is even expected…
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A link to the whole article at the bottom.
however towards the end of the interview I found this bit, where he pretty much rubbishes this sudden panic with the booster strategy;
“The time we would need to boost is if we see evidence that there was an increase in hospitalisation – or the next stage after that, which would be people dying – amongst those who are vaccinated. And that is not something we are seeing at the moment,” he said.
“Even if vaccine-induced antibody levels waned, our immune systems would probably remember the vaccination for decades and offer a degree of protection if exposed to the virus, he said. “So, there isn’t any reason at this moment to panic. We’re not seeing a problem with breakthrough severe disease.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical
That and the amount of testing we do, obviously results in more cases. We probably have about the same percentage per population as any other country of a similar size…
…..w.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y
Vaccines very much slow the spread it would appear:
People who are fully vaccinated against covid-19 are far less likely to infect others, despite the arrival of the delta variant, several studies show. The findings refute the idea, which has become common in some circles, that vaccines no longer do much to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.
“They absolutely do reduce transmission,” says Christopher Byron Brooke at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “Vaccinated people do transmit the virus in some cases, but the data are super crystal-clear that the risk of transmission for a vaccinated individual is much, much lower than for an unvaccinated individual.”
From – …..w.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/
The name of said scientist or a link to the story would be helpful, for those of us who find what you’ve said interesting enough to want to look into it. Cheers, ES
A name of said virologist or link to the story would be helpful, for those of us who find what you’ve said interesting enough to want to look into it. Cheers, JG
When seatbelts were brought in, the number of car accident deaths dropped hugely, but the number of those who died in car accidents who were wearing seatbelts, rose, as expected, because it was a legal requirement to be wearing one and almost all drivers were. If someone misreads the seatbelt deaths statistics they might easily conclude from giving them a cursery glance that seatbelts make no difference or even worse make death more likely; but that is clearly not the case. Statistics are sometimes very easy to misread, it happens a lot and is often the reason behind well intentioned false claims in the media or online.
……w.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
True, but the bigger picture stats don’t obviously follow: the Germans have approx half the UK’s daily (today) cases, but more than double our daily (today) deaths, and approx 500% our number of serious (probably in hospital I presume but doesn’t actually state) cases.
The figures are up to Sept 2021 so over a year
despite what you may read here, that doesn’t actually happen.
I suppose that the amount of deaths has dropped as a result of vaccines. However, these figures also might go to show that many deaths attributed to Covid weren’t anything to do with it, or a contributor in someone very sick from other causes anyway.
it’s so hard to pick though this when they put all deaths as Covid within 28 days of a positive test. I thought standard medical practice was to ascertain the actual cause of death or severe illness? Not with Covid, different set of criteria! 🤔
I wont believe the game is postponed until Alasdair gold hears it from a source inside the club of hears it from the traing ground ..He really p-sses me off .
Enlightening stuff.
Macron probably fiddles the books, he fiddles everything else.
Leicester game Postponed. I think that the PL is going into LOCKDOWN.
PHS have just released figures that show 9/10 deaths from Covid for the past 4 months are amongst the double vaxed. ONS figures show a massive difference in deaths of the vaccinated and in vaccinated.
78,000 un vaccinated vs 295.000 vaccinated. Figures up to Sept 21
The top virologists have also said the worst time to vaccinate is when the virus is spreading fast. It causes it to mutate more.
Because we test more. Germany has tested 88 million times. The UK has tested 360 million times. In Aug this year we were testing 750,000 people a day.
More tests = more positive results. Not necessarily infections, hospitalisations or deaths.
A government is a group of people with the authority to govern a country or state.. So these ‘many people’ have all made up their own definition of the word? So no mate is your answer, Conte is no fool.. I put the daily mail link up in reply to the Boy but it hasn’t been allowed yet.. They said Spurs had met with government officials and had been ordered to shut down the training ground.. Conte was clear in his presser too.
Yes, I know of someone who worked in occupational health. They went through each type of mask one by one and explained how they don’t work. The massive 180 on this subject in last year or so should be a clue.
Boris couldn`t shut a front door let alone a training ground, anyway regardless of who shut it the reasons were clearly genuine
Ahh yes, down voting that…sorry my mistake.
Be terrified always! You are going to die! Stay home don’t talk to anyone and remember …to be petrified.
Masks only work for a carrier at close quarters passing it on, like medical staff. They don’t prevent you catching it as most infections come from touching surfaces, that was always the case. But hey, masks make it look like you’re doing something… 😆
We test about 50% more people per day. France recorded 65,713 new infections yesterday, a positive test rate of aroudn 8.1%. The UK level is currently around 5.95%. If France had the testing capacity of the UK it would be recording 100,700 based on an 8.1% positive test rate.
Masks are a farce. They do nothing. Don’t fear this. There’s nothing to fear. That’s what they want. Us to be terrified.
Indeed
Died with positive test…like all of them. It’s a pre planned agenda, the next stage of the quest for a technocratic neo maoist totalitarian society. My neighbors had all the injections(and 3 or 4 hospital trips that went with em) just so they could see their grandchildren in Spain one last time. They are travel banned anyway. I tryed to tell them but what can you do?
Utter corruption.
You’re statistically more likely to die in the bath.
Yep., Match on tonight isn’t it? What happened to the ‘outbreak’?? They may postpone weekend Prem for max Psy op impact but this is all shash. The moronic variant is another red herring to perpetuate this agenda. Even medical heads in South Africa are scratching their head about what’s happening here regards to the over hyped reaction to their supposed variant. Their hospitalization stats are through the floor. It’s a PCR scam and they ramp it up when required.
When you start branding normal healthy people “unsymptomatic but infected’ you don’t have much of a chance of life in any reasonable sense.
Stay indoors, stay out of the water!
Watch out for jellyfish, they’re covid spreaders you know.
I think it’s because we go overboard in recording deaths ie. John Smith had a positive covid test and was quite well then got run over by a bus. So it was reported as a covid death.
Was it even Covid? Remember, all Covid deaths are recorded as any death within 28 days of a positive Covid test. Which its completely absurd. It was within THREE months for the first 8 months of it… F*cking garbage.
254 people have died from accidental drowning in the UK this year. Apart from the ones Covid related if they’d had a positive Covid test within 28 days, this could mean that beaches and all large bodies of water will now be off limits… if you leave home without a lifejacket you could get a jail term!!
I mean, that’s the approach to Covid innit?
Is this not just Antonio using Italian parlance within his translation of his thoughts into English?
For many people the word ‘government’ is general term for all those who ‘govern’ us. I doubt Antonio is particularly well versed in the workings of the system in the UK and perhaps ‘government’ in Italy just means ‘those in charge’?
Glad you are feeling better Harold and that your complaining is improving as you do so. I think Omicron is a worry for millions as not everyone is in tip top condition and are more vulnerable than others. That aside, those eejits that cannot even wear a mask properly need to be strung up for their own health
I fail to understand why the number of cases are so high in the UK say compared to Surrender Monkey land or Nazi Murderer land
(I think this is correct as of now).
I don’t mind saying that I am completely disillusioned on the covid situation, completely at a loss of what to believe and understand about the whole thing. I was reading yesterday about the comedian Jethro who had sadly passed away due to this dreadful epidemic, he’d had two vaccines AND a booster, yet it still took him after this length of time.
Witty is a doom-monger who has got it wrong before. I don’t see a government scientist I see the Grim Reaper, his dinner parties must be fun to attend.
About as useful as a chocolate teapot! 😆
All the jab jibber jabber is precisely that.
One would probably do just as well to buy a ‘Boost’ from corner shop. I’d tip the coconut one, if they still do them ☺️
Can’t find any reports!
There is nothing we can do about the spread of Omnicron or the other variants, that’s the blunt truth of it. Vaccines DO NOT stop spread, neither do they stop people having symptoms but they are proving to stop those at most risk getting seriously ill and dying from it.
Omncron is milder, so someone please explain to me how ‘boosting’ the younger and non-vunerable groups will be of any benefit whatsoever. It will still spread but it’s mild. If the NHS has to gear up to cope with the worst case scenario projections on hospital admissions then that needs to be the strategy. Sticking a third jab in six months into the young and healthy is insane, and will not help a single jot.
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Exactly right, postponing footy matches is a sure way of getting people attention. 13 players infected, yet they’re ready to play top flight sport and train within a week. Yet it’s vital that the younger fit populous need to be boosted to ‘protect’ them and others? Garbage…
A leading scientist said in August that we should only do the booster jab if those already jabbed began to get sick and hospital emissions and deaths directly attributed to Covid began to rise.
Well folks, deaths are still going down and almost everyone sick in hospital with Covid are both un-vaxed and vulnerable. The evidence around Omnicron is now that it’s emerging as asymptomatic and very mild in almost all cases. So how the government can base a booster rollout to the whole population over the age of 18 on the ‘threat’ of this new variant, I have no idea. ‘Disproportionate’ doesn’t even cover it, causing fear and panic again, doctors appointments will be disrupted etc.
This is three weeks after Javid announced that the British Government had done a “deal” with the parma companies to supply them for the next three years. Just think about the size of that deal, 67m people, I’ll let you work it out.
No proper assessment of Omnicron has been done, they’ve just jumped all over the “heavily mutated” statements and treated it like an alien invasion. It’s truly worrying the way people are being mislead…
Something’s not right. Understatement. It’s all wrong.
They shot themselves in the foot with this ‘outbreak’ in Prem clubs cos the narrative was its cases going up daily hugely, so the only logical conclusion would be in the end have to cancel the league or at least postpone it….it won’t happen cos it’s all for a narrative. Bojo has 114 million quid worth of boosters to push.
Good to see you back in the saddle Mr Hotspur!
When the music stopped a number of participants found themselves without chairs
It is true the government shut it down. The daily mail was the first to report this 3 days ago… Lol at Veal, Independent and Evening Standard writer, you get him H. No reply from him I presume… Our match pressers have been going south for years. 90 odd percent of them need changing. Including Gold.