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Poch Has 2 Games To Shake Off Footballing Equivalent Of PTSD Says Martin Lipton
By Harry Hotspur -

Thoughtful stuff from Mr Lipton for The Sun, which treads the path that this blog advocates, one of analysis, opposed to the binary choice of lynch mob or blind faith.

Tottenham has well and truly run out of steam and all the inquests, screaming and shouting about where the blame might lie, is largely irrelevant.

This isn’t a IKEA wardrobe on the wonk – with a couple of screws left over. There’s no straightforward fix.

Pochettino’s nest two games could seal the Argentine’s fate, according to Mr Lipton.

Watford at home ought to be a gimme, as the Hornet’s form is abysmal. But that was how things looked ahead of the Brighton game.

What of Red Star Belgrade in the Champions League? Well, they won’t be any easier than Olympiakos, that’s for sure.

It was inevitable that someone would issue a “‘X’ games to save job” type edict, and this one is perfectly reasonable.

Watford are bottom of the division, and stagnant Spurs need to decide if they are good enough to participate in the Champions League, or not.

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73 responses to “Poch Has 2 Games To Shake Off Footballing Equivalent Of PTSD Says Martin Lipton”

  1. Legoverlassarisen says:

    I saw some video footage of the NFL match yesterday. It was as though THFC did not exist. All branding relating to the football club had disappeared. It was a frightening look into the future. Question? ENIC stated that the stadium revenues will help THFC compete at the highest level. That has always been the mantra. So why remove all reference to the football club during an NFL match when there is an NFL presence at the EPL matches. Any owner with genuine aspirations to cross fertilise the revenues would look to have THFC branding present during an NFL match so that all the NFL supporters could begin to form an association with THFC and possibly even start supporting them as their “Soccer” club both here and in the US. If Liverpool or Man City hosted NFL matches do you seriously believe that all references to either club would be clinically removed? As was stated by an ENIC senior executive. The plan all along was to build an NFL stadium. Yet I do not recall Levy ever stating that to any of the THFC client reference numbers at any time. Levy has already stated that the aim this season (yet again) is to get a top four spot. ENIC and Levy have always said the aim of the new stadium was to create a future for THFC to become a top flight club able to compete with the best teams in the world. Lies , lies and more lies yet again. 18 years of lies and smoke and mirrors fed to the fans as ticket prices get hiked up to the highest levels on a par with the clubs actually winning titles and CL cups and they are expected to pay the same for just qualifying with no realistic hope of winning anything. 18 years of sacking managers and selling our best players to pay for younger players that can then be sold at a profit to pay for more younger players.All to avoid making any investment into the football club. Yesterday I witnessed a stadium full of people most of whom have none or little connection with THFC, in a stadium that is supposed to herald a glorious new dawn for the football club yet without any trace of that football club anywhere to be seen.( I am surprised they didn’t install a retractable cockerel on the roof). ENIC have drawn THFC into their web and like a venomous spider they have sucked the life blood out of the club leaving nothing but a hollow shell with no substance. That is what we have seen at Colchester, Bayern, Brighton, in the CL Final against LIverpool and for nearly two seasons now as the focus has shifted completely away from THFC. The players have lost their early enthusiasm as they have seen through the continual spin and PR chatter and they now see the reality, the coach sees this and he can no longer motivate the players with false promises on behalf of ENIC. That is why they all want to find a way out and to join a genuine club with genuine owners and genuine ambition. I cannot blame any of them. Unless somehow we find new owners who see the potential of a successful THFC on a global basis then I can see our once great club diminishing in stature as the NFL business model overshadows it. If ENIC’s plan is to sell out to the NFL at some point I cannot any NFL owner looking at THFC as anything other than a complete insignificance. Sadly it may be that this club has to freefall now before ENIC have been able to develop the NFL mission and they are forced to sell out quicker than they anticipated and before any NFL owner is prepared to buy into the UK market. This leaving an owner with a football aspiration to step in and grab control of the assets and re-establish THFC as the primary brand and business direction. Who the hell that may be I have no idea at this moment in time.I fear it has to happen sooner rather than later.

    • Spurs est1882 says:

      I maybe wrong – but I believe its NFL policy to not allow cross branding. a number of US stadiums have suffered similar fates. So you cant have a THFC sign just pop up without paying the NFL to advertise.

      • Tappaspur says:

        You are right.

      • Legoverlassarisen says:

        Clearly ok the other way round though, So if Levy was not bending over backwards for the NFL there is no way he would sanction an arrangement like that.

        • Spurs est1882 says:

          well…Mcdonalds would not be happy you advertising burger king in their shop, but couldn’t give a shit if you advertised their stuff ina burger king.

          • legoverlassreinvented says:

            Except Burger King sell a competing product and THFC play with a round ball (occasionally) and not an oval one and on a pitch without gridiron markings. Different market place, different product and Burger King are not bending over backwards asking to be reamed by McDonalds.

            • Spurs est1882 says:

              Don’t kid yourself – NFL see soccer and all other sports as a rival product. Plus its what I mean about cross brand promotion. NFL are happy for their brand to be promoted anywhere and PL don’t have the rules that NFL do.

    • Marbella Spur says:

      THFC have been ethnically cleansed. Levy has lied through his teeth. Any season ticket holder who renews next season needs his head examining. Two NFL games a season will not make up for the crashing attendance figures which are inevitably coming, particularly as there will be no Champions League next season either.

      • Eddie says:

        Two NFL games a season may be the current plan but an increase in that number,year on year, will be drip fed to the masses like all the other deceptions by ENIC.As yesterday showed not one indication that THFC play at the stadium and it will continue to be futher marginalised as was the plan all along.
        ENIC OUT.

        • Tappaspur says:

          Yep. The NFL will become more popular than the premiere league😂😂. More people watch hockey world wide.

          • Spurs est1882 says:

            Top Watched:
            Soccer / Association Football – 3.5 billion fans. Association Football or Soccer. …
            Cricket – 2-3 billion fans. International Cricket. …
            Basketball – 2-3 billion fans. Basketball. …
            Hockey – 2.2 billion fans. …
            Tennis – 1 billion fans. …
            Table Tennis – 900 million fans. …
            Baseball – 500 million fans. …
            Rugby – 410 million fans.

            Top Revenue in million Euros.:
            National Football League American football 11,394
            Major League Baseball Baseball 9,200
            National Basketball Association Basketball 6,271
            Premier League Association football 6,040

    • Tappaspur says:

      “TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR stadium. Why do you think that is?

      • Legoverlassarisen says:

        Ermmmmm.. it might have something to do with the fact that Levy has been unable to secure a deal for the naming rights and that may be because he is as usual asking for to much money for a club that has no aspirations to win anything. You know…. a bit like charging punters top dollar for tickets commensurate with a CL winning side and yet delivering a football team unable to beat Colchester.

        • Tappaspur says:

          No. Try again

          • legoverlassreinvented says:

            Errmmm so Levy has decided after all that it is only fitting that the ground be named after the football club as after all at heart he is a fan and even if someone came along and offered him a naming deal rights that met his inflated valuation he would simply and calmly respond by saying “ this ground was built for THFC and it will shall be called the Tottenham Hotspur stadium. This of course is just in case NFL punters should wonder whose stadium it is and ask the question. They might then of course say “ who are THFC “ do they play “ soccer “.

    • cincyspurs says:

      I would say the teams playing want their names in the stadium in the end zones. but i doubt all references to Tottenham Hotspur in the concourses or anywhere around the stadium are gone completely. Also if you think those supporters don’t know who plays in that stadium I think you are giving those fans, as sports fans in general, very little credit. I agree Levy and ENIC are a major part of the problem with the club but as sports fans in general, have some faith that the NFL supporters know exactly who plays in that new stadium.

  2. Tappaspur says:

    Speaking with my cousin glen (JERK an TING 185 PARK LANE) plug plug😁 said to him “you cut good paper yesterday didn’t ya? He just smiled. He said the yanky people can eat, even their kids were having large meals😂😂 and one coke weren’t enough😂😂😂😂

  3. Tappaspur says:

    Mad dog bielsa for Tottenham😁. I’d have him over Jose.

  4. Molespurs says:

    Lazy journo who writes for the SUN pay no heed he is in a daze pillock.

  5. East Stand says:

    It’s the same old tabloid ‘club in crisis, boss has two games to save his job type fare’.

    Poch isn’t getting sacked unless he wants it, that might be the more pertinent question?

  6. MrChickenHead says:

    So it’s Captain Kane now?

  7. Tappaspur says:

    Bet the Tottenham players whatsapp group ain’t very lively. Glad to see the back of each other. Good timing this break. Hopefully they come back embarrassed and ashamed about the last game and are determined to put it right. Too late. Most dropped.

  8. England Mike says:

    I cant get my head round the fact the american game got the largest attendance ……..we are finished !

  9. England Mike says:

    I cant get my head round the fact the american game got the largest attendance ……..we are finished !

    • David Dillenberg says:

      Always very popular. Unless we quickly address our alarming slump expect our home attendances to dip.

      • Tappaspur says:

        What you think the fans not gonna go support the team and poch when they need us most you mean? What kinda fans would that make us then? I’ll tell ya shit fans. You’re mistaking the fans with the money wankers. We’ll all go marching in mate. fik or fin.

  10. David Dillenberg says:

    Even if Poch survives the axe then according to Arry Redshnapps after what is now 5 /6 years in charge he has to deliver a trophy this season when season after season not winning anything is fairly or unfairly not good enough. If and it’s a big if we win the FA Cup then it’s a start, otherwise it’s yet another trophyless season!

    • The Tailor says:

      Agree David. Everyone is missing the key point here. Even when we were ‘good’ we couldn’t beat f******g Leicester to the title and choked in all major finals and semi-finals… He hasn’t won a trophy in 5 complete seasons and now everyone is focusing on distraction/smoke and mirrors.. in fact he has NEVER, EVER won a trophy. At best the guy is a serial choker.

  11. Eleventstonedidiots says:

    2 games to save his job? Boulderdash. what needs to happen is for Levy to hold his nerve and ship out players who are not wanted and who do not wish to be there and back the manager. 2 games for the man who got a squad dead on its feet to a CL final despite no signings for 18 months? If Poch is still committed to the cause then i think he has built up enough credit to have one bad season. Do not be sucked in by these knee jerk #pochout cretins on twitter.

  12. Steve KillerCushion Williams says:

    If watford smash us then we are in big trouble.. They have some fighters and will be smelling blood.. The unthinkable ‘doing the leeds’ could very much be on at this rate.. Especially if kane and a couple others get injured we have no leaders

  13. Billy the yid says:

    Absolutely brilliant legoverlass. Nailed it. We really are insignificant to him. The revenue of the nfl has been the end game and anyone who can’t see it may need a guide dog. Be interesting to see how much cash it actually made last night, not that spurs will see any of it, more out of morbid curiosity

  14. David Dillenberg says:

    Unlike free falling disunited Spurs, supposedly an inferior side IMO Leicester City are the current role model of both manager and united team without egos in tune with each other plus adopting a good recruitment policy.

    • PlayItAgainSamways says:

      Brendan Rogers is an excellent manager, imo. Very telling that he said in one of his monologues that he would never manage a club like Tottenham because the manager doesnt have control over his squad.

      Someone made a point in the comments on an older post that Kane making the final peed some of the squad off; I can totally understand that. Kane definitely starting is one of Pochs weak spots and it makes a mockery of his you ‘only play if you deserve it’ ethos.

      • David Dillenberg says:

        Apparently Eddie Howe would take it when as previously stated behind that calm measured charming quiet exterior is IMO a steely character fully deserving recognition of managing a top club!

      • Spurs est1882 says:

        Kane deserves to play (not the final but most weeks). He may seem off song, but he plays with his heart on his sleeve and works way too hard. He gets next to no supply. He very rarely balls up a chance (did one at Brighton though). I would always pick Kane too…if fit, but was not fit most of last season. Issue is, he needs support, supply and ability to be rotated.

        • PlayItAgainSamways says:

          All true.

          Poch could use Moura and Son as another combo to give Kane a rest but he never has the balls to do it.

        • Eddie says:

          I agree with your comments regarding Kane,however i feel his recent demeanour is that of a man who can do no more.
          He looks frustrated and I get the impression that perhaps a move to a club that will win things is being seriously considered by him.
          He has the attitude of a winner and he would regret it if his career ended with nothing to show for it.I would hate him to end up like Shearer who chose to knock back Utd. and won fuck all with Newcastle.
          I would accept him being sold if all the money was ploughed back into the team.I also accept that is wishful thinking.

      • The Tailor says:

        He can ‘say’ what he wants but if Spurs come knocking Brendan is on his way.

  15. Legoverlassarisen says:

    I saw some video footage of the NFL match yesterday. It was as though THFC did not exist. All branding relating to the football club had disappeared. It was a frightening look into the future. Question? ENIC stated that the stadium revenues will help THFC compete at the highest level. That has always been the mantra. So why remove all reference to the football club during an NFL match when there is an NFL presence at the EPL matches. Any owner with genuine aspirations to cross fertilise the revenues would look to have THFC branding present during an NFL match so that all the NFL supporters could begin to form an association with THFC and possibly even start supporting them as their “Soccer” club both here and in the US. If Liverpool or Man City hosted NFL matches do you seriously believe that all references to either club would be clinically removed? As was stated by an ENIC senior executive. The plan all along was to build an NFL stadium. Yet I do not recall Levy ever stating that to any of the THFC client reference numbers at any time. Levy has already stated that the aim this season (yet again) is to get a top four spot. ENIC and Levy have always said the aim of the new stadium was to create a future for THFC to become a top flight club able to compete with the best teams in the world. Lies , lies and more lies yet again. 18 years of lies and smoke and mirrors fed to the fans as ticket prices get hiked up to the highest levels on a par with the clubs actually winning titles and CL cups and they are expected to pay the same for just qualifying with no realistic hope of winning anything. 18 years of sacking managers and selling our best players to pay for younger players that can then be sold at a profit to pay for more younger players.All to avoid making any investment into the football club. Yesterday I witnessed a stadium full of people most of whom have none or little connection with THFC, in a stadium that is supposed to herald a glorious new dawn for the football club yet without any trace of that football club anywhere to be seen.( I am surprised they didn’t install a retractable cockerel on the roof). ENIC have drawn THFC into their web and like a venomous spider they have sucked the life blood out of the club leaving nothing but a hollow shell with no substance. That is what we have seen at Colchester, Bayern, Brighton, in the CL Final against LIverpool and for nearly two seasons now as the focus has shifted completely away from THFC. The players have lost their early enthusiasm as they have seen through the continual spin and PR chatter and they now see the reality, the coach sees this and he can no longer motivate the players with false promises on behalf of ENIC. That is why they all want to find a way out and to join a genuine club with genuine owners and genuine ambition. I cannot blame any of them. Unless somehow we find new owners who see the potential of a successful THFC on a global basis then I can see our once great club diminishing in stature as the NFL business model overshadows it. If ENIC’s plan is to sell out to the NFL at some point I cannot any NFL owner looking at THFC as anything other than a complete insignificance. Sadly it may be that this club has to freefall now before ENIC have been able to develop the NFL mission and they are forced to sell out quicker than they anticipated and before any NFL owner is prepared to buy into the UK market. This leaving an owner with a football aspiration to step in and grab control of the assets and re-establish THFC as the primary brand and business direction. Who the hell that may be I have no idea at this moment in time.I fear it has to happen sooner rather than later.

  16. JimmyGrievance says:

    Our current form is no better than Watford’s yet the assumption is we are favs to win it.

    Quick reminder folks …. This is exactly the type of game we are destined to lose.

    • Eddie says:

      This is the type of game we have been expected to breeze through over the last year and we have usually failed miserably.Watford may be bottom of the league but we are the team they could really kick their season off against.

      • Spurs est1882 says:

        Watford will know we are a scalp they can take. We would need to be 3-0 at least before they didn’t think they could turn it around. Away to Liverpool, I don’t think there is any score we oculd have they wouldn’t think they could over turn right now…and the issue is, we aint scoring!

  17. Cabspur says:

    Just read our rented ground got a new attendence record on Sunday to n.f.l football . Bit of a kick in the teeth but would be happy if the money earnt got spent on our club ,,but just know it won’t.

  18. Tappaspur says:

    No one deserves to get to the PL more than Preston north end (finny) I really want them to but there’s not enough room for two lillywhites in this league.

  19. Spurs est1882 says:

    I said he HAD to win the 3 league games leading up to Liverpool…we didn’t. Personally now I think anything short of winning every game this month would mean he would go.
    However, odds on Ole going have dropped too, so I would not be shocked to see Ole gone in November and Poch to united before Christmas.

    • Cabspur says:

      Probably not far wrong ,Ole is out of his depth and normally would be loving it but We are actually in a worse situation and the perfect storm/ nightmare is approaching.