Date: 29th January 2019 at 8:35am
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In classical mythology, Zeus gave a box to Pandora, the first woman, with strict instructions not to open it. 

Pandora’s curiosity soon got the better of her, and she opened the box. All the evils and miseries of the world flew out to afflict mankind.

Mauricio Pandorattino may have met his Waterloo here.

Of all the things Poch might have said after the Crystal Palace debacle, his disparaging remarks about facile nature of winning domestic cups was almost certainly the most ill advised.

The bulk of us always knew that ENIC were up to no good.

What fans want

As per the handy Venn diagram above, normal fans want to see their side lift trophies.

This is the metric of success in this sport.

Even dog shows for mutts give out rosettes for Best Waggly Tail etc, everything is about winning.

If you want to stroll about, amiably smelling the flowers, then kindly adjourn to the countryside, where the only competition you will experience is from the occasional gaggle of aggressive cyclists.

Pochettino has been truly savaged here, the Argie’s credibility couldn’t be any more damaged.

WE CAN’T JUST SAY TOP FOUR AND THAT’S IT

These words are going to haunt Pochettino until he goes from being a perennial loser, to being a winner.

It is impossible to find anyone with anything approaching coherent to say about the Daniel Levy business model.

Poch’s sneer at domestic cups – considering he’s yet to win anything in England makes him look an irredeemable fool.

The transfer window closes in 2 days.

ENIC OUT t shirt
 
Comments
  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?

  • James Smith April 11, 2019 at 2:46 am

    Absolutely embarrassing that ole had the nerve to comment on pochs goals and expectations for the season. Unfortunately unlike this united side poch hasn’t had 500 million to a assemble a squad that’s going to be able to compete on all fronts. Poch is having to prioritise what’s most important to the long term future of Tottenham Hotspur and unfortunately as frustrating as it is to be knocked out of both cups this week the league has to take priority. When we Casually throw 500 million into our squad then I expect us to be able to get in to the top 4 and actually have a good enough squad to compete and win domestic cups.

    • Jon spur April 11, 2019 at 1:15 pm

      Poch is the ENIC mouthpiece. Do you for one second believe that poch believes what he is saying?

      • WitTank April 12, 2019 at 12:03 am

        EXACTLY.
        And Solsjkaer has shown the ruthlessness required by destroying his main rival

  • Spursed April 10, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    Some teams have done doubles and trebles…..

    We get a choice between one thing or another…… And one of those things isn’t even winning something!

  • Proud April 10, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    I’m hoping this is Pochs way of saying “Daniel, I can’t compete with this squad, spend some fkin money”. I fear I’m wrong though & we’ve got more years of watching free kicks, corners etc being passed back to Lloris

  • Harry Hotspur April 10, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    John Brady
    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.
    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    John, peddle your propaganda somewhere else mate.

    As Arsenal proved, fans don’t want to support a spreadsheet.

    Fans want to win trophies.

    Kindly refer to the Venn Diagram above and ask yourself which segment you would wish to be seen occupying.

    • Tappaspur April 10, 2019 at 8:50 pm

      Anything that brings the electric open top bus please. To Untie the community and the fans.

      • Tappaspur April 11, 2019 at 12:02 am

        Wonder if Haringey borough (after winning the league) would be allowed to share the bus with them. Tom would say f u c k them we’ll hire our own!!

  • Billy the yid April 10, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    Did I dream it or did our very own Donna Cullen announce in the summer that there’s a transfer budget totally separate from the ground budget? I’m pretty sure she did, and so I ask where is it. I know they forgot there was a world cup on this summer and people may be knackered, but I can’t believe they forgot the window opened 29 days ago. Given they have had an extra few mknths to scout potential targets and do all the necessary research about said players availability etc. And that budget has gone up 9m as well with the dembele sale, would have been twice that in the summer but that’s great business for you. 2 days to stay out the way Daniel, not long now

  • Tappaspur April 10, 2019 at 6:43 pm

    Who remembers crying over TOTTENHAM as a youngster. Ill only cry again over TOTTENHAM when we are champions of Europe. TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR champions of Europe” I’m getting emotional now. Hurry up TOTTENHAM ive only got 30 odd seasons left in me. IT WILL HAPPEN. I know it

    • Tappaspur April 11, 2019 at 12:02 am

      Ive been saying to my gooner mates for years “we’ll win the champions league before you” I still believe that 100%

      • East Stand April 11, 2019 at 3:40 am

        That’d be nice.

      • Helooksa lot like Alan Partrid April 11, 2019 at 10:52 pm

        Why would you want to have gooner mates ffs?

        • Tappaspur April 12, 2019 at 2:28 am

          You are joking right? Ffs. This is Haringey!!

      • barney April 11, 2019 at 10:52 pm

        what are you smoking sell some to Levy

        • Tappaspur April 12, 2019 at 2:28 am

          So how much is £600m a week over ten years roughly? 520 weeks X £1mil odd?

          • Tappaspur April 12, 2019 at 9:33 am

            * So how much is £600 mil over 10 years? 520 X £1mil odd?

            • Tappaspur April 12, 2019 at 1:31 pm

              Oops sorry mate wrong question. Its been a long day!

  • John Brady April 10, 2019 at 4:58 pm

    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.

    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    • Only Me April 10, 2019 at 8:01 pm

      I think the point is, its one thing going out of the cups, its a whole other thing saying you don’t care. The teams we put out in the early stages do not suggest we didn’t take it seriously. giving Kane 15mins at Tranmere for what?

    • East Stand April 10, 2019 at 8:01 pm

      The thing is, people don’t think these days, they just say stuff…

    • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac April 10, 2019 at 8:50 pm

      Again with the one or other choice. It’s quite possible to do both you know? That’s if your club is run with a focus on playing staff. If we beat Palace we would have 4 extra matches if we won it. Like thatl derail our entire season?! Point is Levy has put us in a position where we cant cope with the fixtures we’ve got, the manager knows this and has taken the money and played along with the bullocks that by the look of it, some fans lap up.

      • Only Me April 11, 2019 at 12:02 am

        The problem is…without laying the right foundations you cant do both. By right foundations I mean squad depth. Players on the bench that offer something more than numbers. We cant rotate Kane if we want to win as we have no real back up, Son (there is Moura but that is a huge drop in quality), Alli (Lamela..sort of), Eriksen (no alternative), Central midfield…we barely have a starting line up let alone back ups. Defence is the ONLY place on the pitch where we could consider rotation through options with 2 right backs of equal measure (neither good enough, KWP is fast becoming first choice for me and he started season 3rd choice), Left back again, 2 players very dis-similar in skillset but similar in level. CB we are basically 3 deep in the PL’s best, with Foyth able to put a shift in too, and keeper we have an excellent back up.

        I would say though, drawing Palace in the FA cup, and playing 8 London clubs in 9 games at a time when you are without possibly 3 of our most attacking players would trouble any team, even one with depth. – I am not saying we are blamless in those injuries though, if the above issue of depth was addressed, players could hav ebene rested.

        • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac April 12, 2019 at 12:03 am

          We are a club holding itself hostage.

      • barney April 11, 2019 at 4:30 am

        hear hear

    • Nicktheyid April 11, 2019 at 1:15 pm

      What’s the point in getting the champions League windfall if we are not going to use the money to strengthen the squad. The 50 million will just end up in uncle Joe’s back pocket.

      • East Stand April 11, 2019 at 5:20 pm

        This is all true but that doesn’t mean that winning domestic cup is more important than playing in the Champions League.

        ENIC’s behaviour and Cups v Champions league… These are two separate discussions.

  • Fire guy April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    As poch blabbers on about his project, the one thing he is failing to realize is the pieces of that project are getting older and likely to leave, meaning all his cognitive parts will be changing. Time is running out on this project of his and soon he won’t be able to defend his bs any longer. That’s when he parts ways. Spurs have become a business and that’s as deep as it goes, no passion for supporters, just concerned about bottome line. The club should be striving for more than just top four every year but poch wants to play this small club crap. New stadium and world class training grounds aren’t small club options. They won’t help anyway . That’s been proven

  • Shaka "Dee Bawl" Hyslop April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Why not just organise mass protests against ENIC at games/outside new stadium and boycott games. This team will never win anything unless oil money takes over anyway…just how it is.

  • OrganicPaper April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Silly Poch. I do love the man, sometimes its easy to forget / ignore this type of sentiment because he has brought a lot of pride and excitement to our team. But, when we crash out of two cups in a week, he really didn’t need to chose this time to remind us all of that ugly side to this relationship, the one so many of us bury our heads in the sand to avoid – he is ENIC’s poster boy. He is Daniel’s lap dog. He is gloriously blinding the many with his charms, his humour, his wonderful changing hair colours, blinding us form the TRUTH!

    The TRUTH is winning the competitions you are in is the whole, entire, sole reason for existing as a professional sports team. To supersede domestic competitions, like the FA Cup – the oldest club competition on earth, with a new metric of success – net spends, top 4, being “competitive”, is negligent to wards the fans.

    I really do enjoy us under Poch, as a footballing side, but this attitude has to end. We are Arsenal without the trophies right now and that HAS to change.

  • PJ April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Proud

    John Brady
    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.
    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    If I remember correctly it was £61 Million last season for the CL.
    That was well spent wasn’t it?
    Wait, what?

    Its spent on increasing salaries! check out next years accounts

    • Accy April 11, 2019 at 10:52 pm

      Rubbish

      • Accy April 12, 2019 at 2:28 am

        If that were true and we don’t make the CL then we’re stuck with a wage bill we can’t pay. That’s not how Levy does things.

  • East Stand April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Poch; “Daniel, if you want cups as well as top 4 I’m going to need more squad depth”

    Levy; “Ah, only problem is I’ve got this duffel bag and the C.L money needs to go in it for safe keeping”

    Poch; Ok, ok… it’s just that people keep asking me about winning shiny stuff”

    • Only Me April 10, 2019 at 6:17 pm

      I think its more:
      Poch; “Daniel, if you want cups as well as top 4 I’m going to need more squad depth”

      Levy; “Ah, only problem is I’ve got this duffel bag and the C.L money needs to go in it for safe keeping”

      Poch; Ok, ok… I will just keep telling the fans that CL is all we need and everything else is an ego boost…can I get a cut if it doesn’t all fit in the bag?

      • East Stand April 11, 2019 at 3:40 am

        What you have to ask yourself is, if you want Poch to go rogue on Levy and demand this and that to ‘win stuff’ we run the very real risk of losing a great coach.

        Poch is always more likely to go than the owners, if he goes then with ENIC’s shit we win naff all and we also don’t play in the Champions League.

        That’s the straight choice and I know what I prefer…

        • Only Me April 11, 2019 at 4:31 am

          That’s not the choice at all. That is the inferred choice. What I would like is Poch saying something like ” we are gutted to be knocked out, now we must refocus all our efforts onto top 4″. Then behind closed doors call Levy out. If Poch wants to leave for us not winning a cup then he will go regardless of what he says to the press.

          • East Stand April 11, 2019 at 9:25 pm

            He didn’t use the word ‘gutted’ but he was obviously gutted after the semi final loss, you could see that.

            Against Palace we weren’t quite good enough with the resources we had left, so he doesn’t say or phrase things perfectly for some people. I think I can forgive him for that.

            It’s something people can get over…

    • Tappaspur April 10, 2019 at 6:17 pm

      Or. Poch man please take some of this money the duffel bag is getting to full. No its ok boss I like doing things the hard way.

  • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    There’s other elements to this. It’s a social engineering thing. I’m sure we are all aware of how competitive spirit and winning is being bred out of people through the education system. With kids getting prizes for just taking part and everyone is a winner. A top 4 qualification replacing actual winning seems another part of it, and it’s working. People actually are turning toward qualifying for a competition for financial reasons over winning. Danny Murphy was just talking about when he looks back over his career it’s the cups he remembers. They are the days that make it worthwhile, not the time you finish 4th. We are being adjusted. Beware.

  • Billy the yid April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    As I read this blog now I can’t help feeling that we are all at it amongst ourselves as oppose to the real problem. Yes everyone is entitled to an opinion, and quite right. Some like poch some don’t and that’s also acceptable. But the real crux of it is this. Due to a total lack of ambition, and investment we are now in a similar position to a pensioner deciding if they can eat or stay warm this week. That situation has occurred due to chronic mis management of a once great football club. Why the hell should a champs league side for the last few years, and 10th richest in the world have to choose between cups and leagues??? Because we have been left with a squad that showed itself in its true colours on Sunday. Piss poor. But cheap. Therein lies the problem

  • John Brady April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Harry Hotspur

    John Brady
    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.
    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    John, peddle your propaganda somewhere else mate.
    As Arsenal proved, fans don’t want to support a spreadsheet.
    Fans want to win trophies.
    Kindly refer to the Venn Diagram above and ask yourself which segment you would wish to be seen occupying.
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    I&#039ve been supporting Spurs for 38 years and this is the best time I&#039ve had watching them since the mid 80&#039s. For me getting in the Top 4, getting out of CL group are far more important than winning the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup. Once we are in a position that we do this year in year out and are in our own stadium then we can start looking to win some small trophies.

    Arsenal went from winning the title and being in Europe every year to missing Europe and trying to win cups…….If you think we are in the same state as them then you are seriously deluded.

    • Harry Hotspur April 11, 2019 at 10:52 pm

      John, your wretched justification bores me, if I was you I would kill myself.

      • Harry Hotspur April 12, 2019 at 2:28 am

        I’m not listening to this guano any more and people insist upon posting it, then it will not be on here.

        Already cleared out one shower of losers, I am not looking to replace them.

        We’ve had all the debates, and if you’re pro ENIC then you’re wrong.

  • Proud April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    John Brady
    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.
    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    If I remember correctly it was £61 Million last season for the CL.
    That was well spent wasn’t it?
    Wait, what?

  • Billy the yid April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Only me has stolen my thunder a little, but his points are valid. If the champs league is the be all and end all, surely it means your gojng to attract a better level of player? Due to the increase in your revenues you can afford them so that’s not an argument as to why you don’t get them. This is the best we ever had it is banded about quite alot as well. We’ll if trippier, nocluedo, lamela, skipp and llorente are as good as we ever had it, we done fucking well in the past to win anything at all. And the other beauty of winning something, anything is that things like naming rights deals, sponsorship deals are easier to negotiate, as people want to be associated with winners, not mediocrity.

  • Limerick AL April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Botch is a Moron .

    • East Stand April 10, 2019 at 12:47 pm

      So are people that take his comments out of context…

      • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac April 10, 2019 at 10:37 pm

        Then there’s a problem, cos the context of his comments are moronical

        • East Stand April 11, 2019 at 3:40 am

          No they aren’t, he’s just said that he feels that top four is paramount for us at this time. At no point has he said that he doesn’t care or doesn’t want to win a pot.

          We were a crossbar away from the final with depleted team in the week, but yeah, I guess he’s just not trying hard enough and doesn’t care…

          • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac April 11, 2019 at 6:32 pm

            Not suggesting he doesn’t care or doesn’t want to win. It’s not about the manager, but hes made a choice all the same to speak for the project and not the fans. 2+2 is not 5.

            • East Stand April 12, 2019 at 9:33 am

              Possibly, but I’d rather he stay and be a Levy stooge and we grow in stature as a club. With ENIC as owners, only an exceptional coach prioritising our league position make that possible.

              I won’t cut off my nose to spite my face and neither should Poch. ENIC are the problem and this bloke takes all the flack. Love Poch, fuck ENIC…

      • Only Me April 10, 2019 at 10:37 pm

        I think your issue is the “context” you are choosing is too narrow. Take the comments in context of ones like “We cant find anyone to improve the club”, and not buying anyone in the window. Plus the potential loss of 3 of our best players. The context is we are doing the bare minimum to get top 4. The club, and poch, is showing no interest in improving beyond top 4 to ever win anything. If we are at risk of losing top 4 we may buy someone./

  • Mike Potts April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Silly thing for Poch to say.If it had come from levy ,you wouldnt have been suprised (or any greedy chairman) It shows how much Football has become a business to everyone accept the people those who should matter “The Fans”. However if you want to buy 50 million pound players and win things ,you do need Champions League money.
    Just a shame that fact came from the manager.

    • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac April 10, 2019 at 3:32 pm

      Spot on. It’s Levy words out of a managers mouth. Wengeresque. Coming from a manager those comments sound insane.

  • old spursy fan April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Would rather champion’s league, but we must use the money we make to invest in new players. Let the money earned from the American games pay for the stadium

    • Tappaspur April 10, 2019 at 12:47 pm

      Nfl and 16 concerts will pay the little £mil odd a month for the stadium. I’m not worried about that at all. The debt AINT a problem according to my guy. Glory ambition is the real worry. We’ll see .

      • Tappaspur April 10, 2019 at 10:37 pm

        A week sorry

  • Only Me April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    I said yesterday, these words for me mean that either he is a loser, he is ultimately useless and not good enough…or he is a company stooge at the expense of his own self. I am would prefer to think he is the first as then at least you know he is doing what he thinks is best.

    As of Solskjaer, I have met him, a couple of times, each time I spent close to an hour with him pretty much 1 on 1, once with his wife and him many years ago (he was still a player). I can categorically say that he is one of the most genuine, nicest person I have ever met (I don’t just mean nicest famous, I mean in any walk of life). This makes me think if he said this comment (which from meeting him years ago is possible as he is a winner) it was to answer a direct question, not an attack on another person. The likelihood is he was asked directly how seriously he is taking the cup considering Man United league position.

    • Harry Hotspur April 10, 2019 at 12:47 pm

      Sadly, I think you’ve nailed it.

      We all knew it what he was thinking, but why in the name of god he said it out loud is anyone’s guess.

    • East Stand April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

      ‘These words’ did not appear in isolation, take them in the context in which he said it and as you watch the presser you can see clearly what he meant. All he’s saying is that the priority is top 4, that’s it. Winning cups is good for your ‘ego’.

      At what point did he say he didn’t want to win a cup?

      • Only Me April 10, 2019 at 8:50 pm

        “People wish we could win some trophies. But being realistic, we are doing so well.”
        “Again we’re going to have the debate whether a trophy will take the club to the next level. I don’t agree with it. It only builds your ego. The most important thing for Tottenham right now is to always be in the top four.”

        He is not saying he doesn’t want to win a cup, but basically he would rather be in the top 4…I am asking to what end? Why is it important if you are not going to use it to improve the club? What does top 4 give the fans at all if you are not improving the squad. The reason why “these words” have brought me to my conclusion is because in the context of 2 windows with no purchases despite arguably the most unbalanced side in Europe (in terms of first 11 vs cover players). Poch is basically saying if we get in to top 4, then its job done each year. On that regard we will only buy players if that starts to feel like a risk.

        • East Stand April 10, 2019 at 10:37 pm

          I share Poch’s opinion. For us Champions League participation is more important than domestic cups.

          If you don’t agree I respect that too but I think the majority of fans would rather be in the Champions League every year. No need to murder Poch for having a quite reasonable stance on it…

          • Only Me April 11, 2019 at 3:40 am

            My point is not what is more important…my issue is WHY is it more important if we are not going to use the perceived benefits to improve the squad to win anything. If CL qualification is it (we will not invest beyond what it takes to get there) I would rather win a trophy. If we got into the CL and invested in improving then top 4 all the time. Sadly its been 4yrs and still no CL quality players bought, we have developed a few though, and about to sell most of them this summer.

  • Harry Hotspur April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Jon spur
    Poch is the ENIC mouthpiece. Do you for one second believe that poch believes what he is saying?

    We shall soon find out.

  • BrightonSpur April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    I have supported Spurs for 50+ years and am disgusted by the ENIC model. No passion or love there other than for the balance sheet! Fair play to Solskjaer for showing what a dick his main rival was for spouting his bosses mantra.

    By the way, what position did Spurs end up in for the 1948/49 season? Was it 4th and who gives a fuck!?

    • East Stand April 10, 2019 at 11:28 am

      We won the League Cup over 10 years ago under these clowns and almost got relegated the following season. So you’d rather us go back to that?

  • Only Me April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    For those asking “what would you prefer, a cup or top 4” my answer is simple and 2 fold…
    1) lets see if we beat Watford considering we sacrificed the cup
    2) What is the point in going to the CL each season if you don’t use it to buy better players. The prestige and money seem to have led to us not improving our squad at all. One could argue we saw greater squad improvements not being in it.

    • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac April 10, 2019 at 12:47 pm

      Il take a trophy. Problem is thanks to Levy we are a club with a giant albatross around our neck and no CL qualification will leave us with a giant empty NFL stadium v dynamo plovdiv. Then again, it’s beyond our core support anyway so the whole thing is one giant clusterFuck. I agree with what you said below sacrificing everything for a competition you can never win for financial profit for the owners and we may as well close doors.

  • East Stand April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Certainly ill advised, but as usual the media and assorted bods are jumping on the first available opportunity to slag of Spurs (via Poch’s comments).

    Firstly, there is nothing wrong with what Poch has said and I agree with him, because I take them within the context they were made.

    Spurs have won one trophy under ENIC, the League Cup in 08, does anyone care? Did anyone care a couple of months after we won it? Could you tell me (without Google) the recent winners of the Spanish, Italian or any of the continental domestic cups for that matter?

    I bet the spread of knowledge across the world about who played in the Champions League and certainly who reached quarter final stage would be far greater, in fact most people that follow football to any degree would probably know.

    ‘Top four’ might not have shiny tin pot to stick in the cabinet attached to it but sadly the world has changed and it bloody well should have. The prestige, the raise in profile of the club globally and the prestige and financial rewards from Champions League participation outstrip compared to the League Cup and FA Cup by an indisputable degree.

    Poch is adamant that for a club like Spurs, with the level of spending on the team that Champions League football is paramount and of course he is absolutely right. Then we hear his detractors cry “you can finish in the top four AND win a pot”. Really? At club where we only have about 10 players of the required quality and compete when 5 of those are missing or returning injury ?

    People are talking complete bollocks and so is the Norwegian ‘Manc’.

    Our mate Ole, has also, I might remind everyone won nothing apart from something out on the frozen tundra involving all weather pitches and crowds of about 8,000. He has son far been an abject failure in English football management. However, the press set him up with a’response’ to Poch’s ego comment, the rest is played as to be expected by the usual suspects that make a living via a’presence’ on social media.

    Now it’s a given that Manure will surely overtake Spurs into 3rd place, however, quite clearly Ole isn’t as convinced and he’s talking up the cups as a lift to a Utd season that was at one point dead in the water. Does anyone actually believe that Manure would prefer to win the ONE domestic cup on offer to them and play in the Ropey League next season?

    If no ‘cups’ meant a place at Europe’s top table next season, Ole and Manure would take that all day long. He’s lying.

    • Only Me April 10, 2019 at 12:47 pm

      I very much doubt Ole aimed these comments at Poch. the press may well angle it that way.

      As for the rest of your comments…being in a competition you have no intention of winning, why not just rebrand THFC as a charity and donate money to them as they are no longer a sports club.

    • Harry Hotspur April 10, 2019 at 5:36 pm

      Easty,

      The top table line doesn’t hold any water.

      If it did, then why are Verts, Toby (and probably Eriksen) all off next summer?

      Why did Bonzo leave, why does Rose want out?

      The only club to pursue this business model to date are Arsenal and their fans ending up boycotting games.

      Additionally, Ole will be aware that MUFC’s sponsorships are heavily dependent upon trophies.

      Ask Jose for further details!

      He’s not lying.

      • East Stand April 10, 2019 at 8:51 pm

        I’m sure their sponsors would much rather like them to be playing the big global box office fixtures against the Barca’s, Juve’s and Madrid’s. Sure, the cups too but the C.L is the big cheese.

        I can’t stand ENIC either, but they don’t influence my opinion on what’s more important. If what I think happens to fall into their business model than so be it, I’m not a refusenik. I’d rather my nose stayed on my face.

        • Only Me April 10, 2019 at 10:28 pm

          Ok – Order of priority in terms of long term benefits:
          1) win the league or the CL
          2) get in the CL
          3) get out the group stages of the CL
          4) win the Europa
          5) Domestic cup

          Thing is, why should you only get to choose one of the above? The point of point 1-3 is that they generate prestige and income for the club to improve their squad to then make it possible ot do all of above where possible. We have been in the CL for 4 yrs now? (or is it 3?) name 1 player we have bought that we couldn’t have got as a Europa side?

        • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crac April 11, 2019 at 11:05 am

          That’s it, it’s Arsenal. We qualify, lose 10 nil on aggregate To Bayern every year but the sponsors are happy. Glory Glory.

        • East Stand April 11, 2019 at 11:05 am

          Poch is getting us to the ‘top table’ on shirt buttons.

  • Fire guy January 29, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    As poch blabbers on about his project, the one thing he is failing to realize is the pieces of that project are getting older and likely to leave, meaning all his cognitive parts will be changing. Time is running out on this project of his and soon he won’t be able to defend his bs any longer. That’s when he parts ways. Spurs have become a business and that’s as deep as it goes, no passion for supporters, just concerned about bottome line. The club should be striving for more than just top four every year but poch wants to play this small club crap. New stadium and world class training grounds aren’t small club options. They won’t help anyway . That’s been proven

  • Shaka "Dee Bawl" Hyslop January 29, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    Why not just organise mass protests against ENIC at games/outside new stadium and boycott games. This team will never win anything unless oil money takes over anyway…just how it is.

  • Spursed January 29, 2019 at 11:40 am

    Some teams have done doubles and trebles…..

    We get a choice between one thing or another…… And one of those things isn’t even winning something!

  • Billy the yid January 29, 2019 at 11:17 am

    As I read this blog now I can’t help feeling that we are all at it amongst ourselves as oppose to the real problem. Yes everyone is entitled to an opinion, and quite right. Some like poch some don’t and that’s also acceptable. But the real crux of it is this. Due to a total lack of ambition, and investment we are now in a similar position to a pensioner deciding if they can eat or stay warm this week. That situation has occurred due to chronic mis management of a once great football club. Why the hell should a champs league side for the last few years, and 10th richest in the world have to choose between cups and leagues??? Because we have been left with a squad that showed itself in its true colours on Sunday. Piss poor. But cheap. Therein lies the problem

  • OrganicPaper January 29, 2019 at 11:04 am

    Silly Poch. I do love the man, sometimes its easy to forget / ignore this type of sentiment because he has brought a lot of pride and excitement to our team. But, when we crash out of two cups in a week, he really didn’t need to chose this time to remind us all of that ugly side to this relationship, the one so many of us bury our heads in the sand to avoid – he is ENIC’s poster boy. He is Daniel’s lap dog. He is gloriously blinding the many with his charms, his humour, his wonderful changing hair colours, blinding us form the TRUTH!

    The TRUTH is winning the competitions you are in is the whole, entire, sole reason for existing as a professional sports team. To supersede domestic competitions, like the FA Cup – the oldest club competition on earth, with a new metric of success – net spends, top 4, being “competitive”, is negligent to wards the fans.

    I really do enjoy us under Poch, as a footballing side, but this attitude has to end. We are Arsenal without the trophies right now and that HAS to change.

  • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 29, 2019 at 10:53 am

    There’s other elements to this. It’s a social engineering thing. I’m sure we are all aware of how competitive spirit and winning is being bred out of people through the education system. With kids getting prizes for just taking part and everyone is a winner. A top 4 qualification replacing actual winning seems another part of it, and it’s working. People actually are turning toward qualifying for a competition for financial reasons over winning. Danny Murphy was just talking about when he looks back over his career it’s the cups he remembers. They are the days that make it worthwhile, not the time you finish 4th. We are being adjusted. Beware.

  • PJ January 29, 2019 at 10:41 am

    Proud

    John Brady
    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.
    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    If I remember correctly it was £61 Million last season for the CL.
    That was well spent wasn’t it?
    Wait, what?

    Its spent on increasing salaries! check out next years accounts

    • Accy January 29, 2019 at 10:56 am

      Rubbish

      • Accy January 29, 2019 at 10:57 am

        If that were true and we don’t make the CL then we’re stuck with a wage bill we can’t pay. That’s not how Levy does things.

  • Proud January 29, 2019 at 10:29 am

    John Brady
    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.
    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    If I remember correctly it was £61 Million last season for the CL.
    That was well spent wasn’t it?
    Wait, what?

  • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 10:10 am

    Poch; “Daniel, if you want cups as well as top 4 I’m going to need more squad depth”

    Levy; “Ah, only problem is I’ve got this duffel bag and the C.L money needs to go in it for safe keeping”

    Poch; Ok, ok… it’s just that people keep asking me about winning shiny stuff”

    • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 10:12 am

      Or. Poch man please take some of this money the duffel bag is getting to full. No its ok boss I like doing things the hard way.

    • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 10:17 am

      I think its more:
      Poch; “Daniel, if you want cups as well as top 4 I’m going to need more squad depth”

      Levy; “Ah, only problem is I’ve got this duffel bag and the C.L money needs to go in it for safe keeping”

      Poch; Ok, ok… I will just keep telling the fans that CL is all we need and everything else is an ego boost…can I get a cut if it doesn’t all fit in the bag?

      • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 10:28 am

        What you have to ask yourself is, if you want Poch to go rogue on Levy and demand this and that to ‘win stuff’ we run the very real risk of losing a great coach.

        Poch is always more likely to go than the owners, if he goes then with ENIC’s shit we win naff all and we also don’t play in the Champions League.

        That’s the straight choice and I know what I prefer…

        • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 10:36 am

          That’s not the choice at all. That is the inferred choice. What I would like is Poch saying something like ” we are gutted to be knocked out, now we must refocus all our efforts onto top 4″. Then behind closed doors call Levy out. If Poch wants to leave for us not winning a cup then he will go regardless of what he says to the press.

          • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 2:12 pm

            He didn’t use the word ‘gutted’ but he was obviously gutted after the semi final loss, you could see that.

            Against Palace we weren’t quite good enough with the resources we had left, so he doesn’t say or phrase things perfectly for some people. I think I can forgive him for that.

            It’s something people can get over…

  • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 10:04 am

    Who remembers crying over TOTTENHAM as a youngster. Ill only cry again over TOTTENHAM when we are champions of Europe. TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR champions of Europe” I’m getting emotional now. Hurry up TOTTENHAM ive only got 30 odd seasons left in me. IT WILL HAPPEN. I know it

    • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 10:09 am

      Ive been saying to my gooner mates for years “we’ll win the champions league before you” I still believe that 100%

      • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 10:10 am

        That’d be nice.

      • barney January 29, 2019 at 11:51 am

        what are you smoking sell some to Levy

        • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 4:39 pm

          So how much is £600m a week over ten years roughly? 520 weeks X £1mil odd?

          • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 4:41 pm

            * So how much is £600 mil over 10 years? 520 X £1mil odd?

            • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 4:44 pm

              Oops sorry mate wrong question. Its been a long day!

      • Helooksa lot like Alan Partridge January 29, 2019 at 1:07 pm

        Why would you want to have gooner mates ffs?

        • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 4:36 pm

          You are joking right? Ffs. This is Haringey!!

  • John Brady January 29, 2019 at 10:03 am

    Harry Hotspur

    John Brady
    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.
    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    John, peddle your propaganda somewhere else mate.
    As Arsenal proved, fans don’t want to support a spreadsheet.
    Fans want to win trophies.
    Kindly refer to the Venn Diagram above and ask yourself which segment you would wish to be seen occupying.
    </blockquote

    I've been supporting Spurs for 38 years and this is the best time I've had watching them since the mid 80's. For me getting in the Top 4, getting out of CL group are far more important than winning the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup. Once we are in a position that we do this year in year out and are in our own stadium then we can start looking to win some small trophies.

    Arsenal went from winning the title and being in Europe every year to missing Europe and trying to win cups…….If you think we are in the same state as them then you are seriously deluded.

    • Harry Hotspur January 29, 2019 at 10:45 am

      John, your wretched justification bores me, if I was you I would kill myself.

      • Harry Hotspur January 29, 2019 at 10:48 am

        I’m not listening to this guano any more and people insist upon posting it, then it will not be on here.

        Already cleared out one shower of losers, I am not looking to replace them.

        We’ve had all the debates, and if you’re pro ENIC then you’re wrong.

  • Billy the yid January 29, 2019 at 10:01 am

    Did I dream it or did our very own Donna Cullen announce in the summer that there’s a transfer budget totally separate from the ground budget? I’m pretty sure she did, and so I ask where is it. I know they forgot there was a world cup on this summer and people may be knackered, but I can’t believe they forgot the window opened 29 days ago. Given they have had an extra few mknths to scout potential targets and do all the necessary research about said players availability etc. And that budget has gone up 9m as well with the dembele sale, would have been twice that in the summer but that’s great business for you. 2 days to stay out the way Daniel, not long now

  • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:51 am

    POCH NEVER SAID HE DIDN’T WANT TO WIN A CUP.

    • Limerick AL January 29, 2019 at 9:53 am

      No . But he did say that he felt like a “winner “ , maybe he meant “Werner “ .

      • Limerick AL January 29, 2019 at 9:55 am

        “Weener “,

        • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:57 am

          He ‘wins’ enough matches to get into the Champions League with sod all resources. Does that make him a winner or a Weener? Discuss…

          • Limerick AL January 29, 2019 at 10:01 am

            If, getting in to the CL is “all That “, then why is Botch being castigated ?

            • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 10:05 am

              Not by me he isn’t, and you ask a very good question…

  • Limerick AL January 29, 2019 at 9:49 am

    Botch is a Moron .

    • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:52 am

      So are people that take his comments out of context…

      • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 29, 2019 at 9:57 am

        Then there’s a problem, cos the context of his comments are moronical

        • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 10:00 am

          No they aren’t, he’s just said that he feels that top four is paramount for us at this time. At no point has he said that he doesn’t care or doesn’t want to win a pot.

          We were a crossbar away from the final with depleted team in the week, but yeah, I guess he’s just not trying hard enough and doesn’t care…

          • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 29, 2019 at 10:07 am

            Not suggesting he doesn’t care or doesn’t want to win. It’s not about the manager, but hes made a choice all the same to speak for the project and not the fans. 2+2 is not 5.

            • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 10:14 am

              Possibly, but I’d rather he stay and be a Levy stooge and we grow in stature as a club. With ENIC as owners, only an exceptional coach prioritising our league position make that possible.

              I won’t cut off my nose to spite my face and neither should Poch. ENIC are the problem and this bloke takes all the flack. Love Poch, fuck ENIC…

      • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 10:01 am

        I think your issue is the “context” you are choosing is too narrow. Take the comments in context of ones like “We cant find anyone to improve the club”, and not buying anyone in the window. Plus the potential loss of 3 of our best players. The context is we are doing the bare minimum to get top 4. The club, and poch, is showing no interest in improving beyond top 4 to ever win anything. If we are at risk of losing top 4 we may buy someone./

  • Billy the yid January 29, 2019 at 9:49 am

    Only me has stolen my thunder a little, but his points are valid. If the champs league is the be all and end all, surely it means your gojng to attract a better level of player? Due to the increase in your revenues you can afford them so that’s not an argument as to why you don’t get them. This is the best we ever had it is banded about quite alot as well. We’ll if trippier, nocluedo, lamela, skipp and llorente are as good as we ever had it, we done fucking well in the past to win anything at all. And the other beauty of winning something, anything is that things like naming rights deals, sponsorship deals are easier to negotiate, as people want to be associated with winners, not mediocrity.

  • Mike Potts January 29, 2019 at 9:41 am

    Silly thing for Poch to say.If it had come from levy ,you wouldnt have been suprised (or any greedy chairman) It shows how much Football has become a business to everyone accept the people those who should matter “The Fans”. However if you want to buy 50 million pound players and win things ,you do need Champions League money.
    Just a shame that fact came from the manager.

    • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 29, 2019 at 10:24 am

      Spot on. It’s Levy words out of a managers mouth. Wengeresque. Coming from a manager those comments sound insane.

  • old spursy fan January 29, 2019 at 9:40 am

    Would rather champion’s league, but we must use the money we make to invest in new players. Let the money earned from the American games pay for the stadium

    • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 9:54 am

      Nfl and 16 concerts will pay the little £mil odd a month for the stadium. I’m not worried about that at all. The debt AINT a problem according to my guy. Glory ambition is the real worry. We’ll see .

      • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 9:56 am

        A week sorry

  • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 9:35 am

    For those asking “what would you prefer, a cup or top 4” my answer is simple and 2 fold…
    1) lets see if we beat Watford considering we sacrificed the cup
    2) What is the point in going to the CL each season if you don’t use it to buy better players. The prestige and money seem to have led to us not improving our squad at all. One could argue we saw greater squad improvements not being in it.

    • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 29, 2019 at 9:43 am

      Il take a trophy. Problem is thanks to Levy we are a club with a giant albatross around our neck and no CL qualification will leave us with a giant empty NFL stadium v dynamo plovdiv. Then again, it’s beyond our core support anyway so the whole thing is one giant clusterFuck. I agree with what you said below sacrificing everything for a competition you can never win for financial profit for the owners and we may as well close doors.

  • Harry Hotspur January 29, 2019 at 9:33 am

    Jon spur

    Poch is the ENIC mouthpiece. Do you for one second believe that poch believes what he is saying?

    We shall soon find out.

  • Harry Hotspur January 29, 2019 at 9:25 am

    John Brady

    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.

    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    John, peddle your propaganda somewhere else mate.

    As Arsenal proved, fans don’t want to support a spreadsheet.

    Fans want to win trophies.

    Kindly refer to the Venn Diagram above and ask yourself which segment you would wish to be seen occupying.

    • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 9:46 am

      Anything that brings the electric open top bus please. To Untie the community and the fans.

      • Tappaspur January 29, 2019 at 9:50 am

        Wonder if Haringey borough (after winning the league) would be allowed to share the bus with them. Tom would say f u c k them we’ll hire our own!!

  • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 9:23 am

    I said yesterday, these words for me mean that either he is a loser, he is ultimately useless and not good enough…or he is a company stooge at the expense of his own self. I am would prefer to think he is the first as then at least you know he is doing what he thinks is best.

    As of Solskjaer, I have met him, a couple of times, each time I spent close to an hour with him pretty much 1 on 1, once with his wife and him many years ago (he was still a player). I can categorically say that he is one of the most genuine, nicest person I have ever met (I don’t just mean nicest famous, I mean in any walk of life). This makes me think if he said this comment (which from meeting him years ago is possible as he is a winner) it was to answer a direct question, not an attack on another person. The likelihood is he was asked directly how seriously he is taking the cup considering Man United league position.

    • Harry Hotspur January 29, 2019 at 9:32 am

      Sadly, I think you’ve nailed it.

      We all knew it what he was thinking, but why in the name of god he said it out loud is anyone’s guess.

    • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:50 am

      ‘These words’ did not appear in isolation, take them in the context in which he said it and as you watch the presser you can see clearly what he meant. All he’s saying is that the priority is top 4, that’s it. Winning cups is good for your ‘ego’.

      At what point did he say he didn’t want to win a cup?

      • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 9:58 am

        “People wish we could win some trophies. But being realistic, we are doing so well.”
        “Again we’re going to have the debate whether a trophy will take the club to the next level. I don’t agree with it. It only builds your ego. The most important thing for Tottenham right now is to always be in the top four.”

        He is not saying he doesn’t want to win a cup, but basically he would rather be in the top 4…I am asking to what end? Why is it important if you are not going to use it to improve the club? What does top 4 give the fans at all if you are not improving the squad. The reason why “these words” have brought me to my conclusion is because in the context of 2 windows with no purchases despite arguably the most unbalanced side in Europe (in terms of first 11 vs cover players). Poch is basically saying if we get in to top 4, then its job done each year. On that regard we will only buy players if that starts to feel like a risk.

        • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 10:04 am

          I share Poch’s opinion. For us Champions League participation is more important than domestic cups.

          If you don’t agree I respect that too but I think the majority of fans would rather be in the Champions League every year. No need to murder Poch for having a quite reasonable stance on it…

          • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 10:14 am

            My point is not what is more important…my issue is WHY is it more important if we are not going to use the perceived benefits to improve the squad to win anything. If CL qualification is it (we will not invest beyond what it takes to get there) I would rather win a trophy. If we got into the CL and invested in improving then top 4 all the time. Sadly its been 4yrs and still no CL quality players bought, we have developed a few though, and about to sell most of them this summer.

  • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:23 am

    Certainly ill advised, but as usual the media and assorted bods are jumping on the first available opportunity to slag of Spurs (via Poch’s comments).

    Firstly, there is nothing wrong with what Poch has said and I agree with him, because I take them within the context they were made.

    Spurs have won one trophy under ENIC, the League Cup in 08, does anyone care? Did anyone care a couple of months after we won it? Could you tell me (without Google) the recent winners of the Spanish, Italian or any of the continental domestic cups for that matter?

    I bet the spread of knowledge across the world about who played in the Champions League and certainly who reached quarter final stage would be far greater, in fact most people that follow football to any degree would probably know.

    ‘Top four’ might not have shiny tin pot to stick in the cabinet attached to it but sadly the world has changed and it bloody well should have. The prestige, the raise in profile of the club globally and the prestige and financial rewards from Champions League participation outstrip compared to the League Cup and FA Cup by an indisputable degree.

    Poch is adamant that for a club like Spurs, with the level of spending on the team that Champions League football is paramount and of course he is absolutely right. Then we hear his detractors cry “you can finish in the top four AND win a pot”. Really? At club where we only have about 10 players of the required quality and compete when 5 of those are missing or returning injury ?

    People are talking complete bollocks and so is the Norwegian ‘Manc’.

    Our mate Ole, has also, I might remind everyone won nothing apart from something out on the frozen tundra involving all weather pitches and crowds of about 8,000. He has son far been an abject failure in English football management. However, the press set him up with a’response’ to Poch’s ego comment, the rest is played as to be expected by the usual suspects that make a living via a’presence’ on social media.

    Now it’s a given that Manure will surely overtake Spurs into 3rd place, however, quite clearly Ole isn’t as convinced and he’s talking up the cups as a lift to a Utd season that was at one point dead in the water. Does anyone actually believe that Manure would prefer to win the ONE domestic cup on offer to them and play in the Ropey League next season?

    If no ‘cups’ meant a place at Europe’s top table next season, Ole and Manure would take that all day long. He’s lying.

    • Harry Hotspur January 29, 2019 at 9:28 am

      Easty,

      The top table line doesn’t hold any water.

      If it did, then why are Verts, Toby (and probably Eriksen) all off next summer?

      Why did Bonzo leave, why does Rose want out?

      The only club to pursue this business model to date are Arsenal and their fans ending up boycotting games.

      Additionally, Ole will be aware that MUFC’s sponsorships are heavily dependent upon trophies.

      Ask Jose for further details!

      He’s not lying.

      • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:37 am

        I’m sure their sponsors would much rather like them to be playing the big global box office fixtures against the Barca’s, Juve’s and Madrid’s. Sure, the cups too but the C.L is the big cheese.

        I can’t stand ENIC either, but they don’t influence my opinion on what’s more important. If what I think happens to fall into their business model than so be it, I’m not a refusenik. I’d rather my nose stayed on my face.

        • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 9:44 am

          Ok – Order of priority in terms of long term benefits:
          1) win the league or the CL
          2) get in the CL
          3) get out the group stages of the CL
          4) win the Europa
          5) Domestic cup

          Thing is, why should you only get to choose one of the above? The point of point 1-3 is that they generate prestige and income for the club to improve their squad to then make it possible ot do all of above where possible. We have been in the CL for 4 yrs now? (or is it 3?) name 1 player we have bought that we couldn’t have got as a Europa side?

        • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 29, 2019 at 9:51 am

          That’s it, it’s Arsenal. We qualify, lose 10 nil on aggregate To Bayern every year but the sponsors are happy. Glory Glory.

        • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:55 am

          Poch is getting us to the ‘top table’ on shirt buttons.

    • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 9:30 am

      I very much doubt Ole aimed these comments at Poch. the press may well angle it that way.

      As for the rest of your comments…being in a competition you have no intention of winning, why not just rebrand THFC as a charity and donate money to them as they are no longer a sports club.

  • John Brady January 29, 2019 at 9:22 am

    Seriously would anyone here be happy if we won the Caraboa Cup/FA Cup and missed out on the Top 4 and Champions League? Klopp managed to get out of both cups to concentrate on the league and Europe and no-one seems to care.

    If we miss out on Top 4 it costs us 50m+ and gives that money to our direct competitors and people think this is ok????

    • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:24 am

      The thing is, people don’t think these days, they just say stuff…

    • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 9:24 am

      I think the point is, its one thing going out of the cups, its a whole other thing saying you don’t care. The teams we put out in the early stages do not suggest we didn’t take it seriously. giving Kane 15mins at Tranmere for what?

    • Nicktheyid January 29, 2019 at 9:25 am

      What’s the point in getting the champions League windfall if we are not going to use the money to strengthen the squad. The 50 million will just end up in uncle Joe’s back pocket.

      • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:29 am

        This is all true but that doesn’t mean that winning domestic cup is more important than playing in the Champions League.

        ENIC’s behaviour and Cups v Champions league… These are two separate discussions.

    • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 29, 2019 at 9:32 am

      Again with the one or other choice. It’s quite possible to do both you know? That’s if your club is run with a focus on playing staff. If we beat Palace we would have 4 extra matches if we won it. Like thatl derail our entire season?! Point is Levy has put us in a position where we cant cope with the fixtures we’ve got, the manager knows this and has taken the money and played along with the bullocks that by the look of it, some fans lap up.

      • barney January 29, 2019 at 9:34 am

        hear hear

      • Only Me January 29, 2019 at 9:40 am

        The problem is…without laying the right foundations you cant do both. By right foundations I mean squad depth. Players on the bench that offer something more than numbers. We cant rotate Kane if we want to win as we have no real back up, Son (there is Moura but that is a huge drop in quality), Alli (Lamela..sort of), Eriksen (no alternative), Central midfield…we barely have a starting line up let alone back ups. Defence is the ONLY place on the pitch where we could consider rotation through options with 2 right backs of equal measure (neither good enough, KWP is fast becoming first choice for me and he started season 3rd choice), Left back again, 2 players very dis-similar in skillset but similar in level. CB we are basically 3 deep in the PL’s best, with Foyth able to put a shift in too, and keeper we have an excellent back up.

        I would say though, drawing Palace in the FA cup, and playing 8 London clubs in 9 games at a time when you are without possibly 3 of our most attacking players would trouble any team, even one with depth. – I am not saying we are blamless in those injuries though, if the above issue of depth was addressed, players could hav ebene rested.

        • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 29, 2019 at 9:45 am

          We are a club holding itself hostage.

  • Proud January 29, 2019 at 9:15 am

    I’m hoping this is Pochs way of saying “Daniel, I can’t compete with this squad, spend some fkin money”. I fear I’m wrong though & we’ve got more years of watching free kicks, corners etc being passed back to Lloris

  • BrightonSpur January 29, 2019 at 9:12 am

    I have supported Spurs for 50+ years and am disgusted by the ENIC model. No passion or love there other than for the balance sheet! Fair play to Solskjaer for showing what a dick his main rival was for spouting his bosses mantra.

    By the way, what position did Spurs end up in for the 1948/49 season? Was it 4th and who gives a fuck!?

    • East Stand January 29, 2019 at 9:26 am

      We won the League Cup over 10 years ago under these clowns and almost got relegated the following season. So you’d rather us go back to that?

  • James Smith January 29, 2019 at 8:43 am

    Absolutely embarrassing that ole had the nerve to comment on pochs goals and expectations for the season. Unfortunately unlike this united side poch hasn’t had 500 million to a assemble a squad that’s going to be able to compete on all fronts. Poch is having to prioritise what’s most important to the long term future of Tottenham Hotspur and unfortunately as frustrating as it is to be knocked out of both cups this week the league has to take priority. When we Casually throw 500 million into our squad then I expect us to be able to get in to the top 4 and actually have a good enough squad to compete and win domestic cups.

    • Jon spur January 29, 2019 at 8:49 am

      Poch is the ENIC mouthpiece. Do you for one second believe that poch believes what he is saying?

      • WitTank January 29, 2019 at 8:52 am

        EXACTLY.
        And Solsjkaer has shown the ruthlessness required by destroying his main rival

  • East Stand April 10, 2019 at 10:42 am

    POCH NEVER SAID HE DIDN’T WANT TO WIN A CUP.

    • Limerick AL April 10, 2019 at 12:47 pm

      No . But he did say that he felt like a “winner ” , maybe he meant “Werner ” .

      • Limerick AL April 11, 2019 at 11:05 am

        “Weener “,

        • East Stand April 11, 2019 at 11:05 am

          He ‘wins’ enough matches to get into the Champions League with sod all resources. Does that make him a winner or a Weener? Discuss…

          • Limerick AL April 11, 2019 at 6:32 pm

            If, getting in to the CL is “all That “, then why is Botch being castigated ?

            • East Stand April 11, 2019 at 9:25 pm

              Not by me he isn’t, and you ask a very good question…