As some will be aware, I have a dog or two in this particular race, as I had Covid-19 or strain thereof, a couple of years ago – just before it hit the mainstream media; and it was only when the business about the loss of taste and smell broke, I realized my several weeks of continuous coughing actually had a name. Last week, I managed to catch another strain, again from ‘er indoors, who by now has been the proud owner of two jabs for very many months. This time around, the symptoms have been heavy flu-like, but getting marginally better day by day.
I’d been disinclined to get involved in any jab, ever since a close relative of mine won a major prize, namely Guillain-Barré syndrome, from a routine flu vaccine, and lost the use of his legs for a few years as a consequence. As it’s already in the public domain, I’ll share again, that this was all against a personal health backdrop of a now treated but once chronic case of pulmonary sarcoidosis.
Given my understanding, I’d suggest that the footballing authorities wash their faces (as if to freshen up their minds) and call time on any half-baked plans to carry on regardless and push Tottenham’s games through.
To force Spurs’ schedule ahead, as if the club needs to be punished, would be tragically wide off the mark.
When the virus first broke, we were told that handwashing and masks would aid the cause. And then, once vaccines began to roll out, they would also improve everyone’s chances of keeping negative. The reality is that nothing is absolute. Therefore, Spurs players (in this instance) are not protocol-breaking loons. There’s very little in truth in believing that one can actively stay in the negative zone.
Both UEFA and the Premier League need to review their respective positions and start rescheduling matches before the situation deteriorates further into farce.
As I’m currently basking in it, I can confirm it is indeed just a dose of flu.
That’s far too logical mate.
Omnicron is emerging as mainly asymptomatic from statistics in India, yet there’s all the “well, we just don’t know what impact it will have”.
Early evidence suggests it’s actually less virulent than the Delta variant and the suggestion that its more ‘transmissible’ is not backed up by any solid evidence so far.
That didn’t stop our serial bullsh*t peddler of a PM making the claim that it is, so he could bring back in mandatory mask wearing in all inside spaces. Yet you can go night clubbing in a hot sweaty room so long as you have your vaccine pass!
More nonsensical rubbish, and it keeps coming…
Sorry to hear this Son.
I am still unsure about all this as it is too early to know facts of the after effects of the vax but what I do know is how badly non Covid patients are being treated due to Covid taking up all the resources of the medical situation.
Totally agree. These boosters are a nonsense as well. Nobody has passed away, that they know about, of this Omicron variant either. It is a fear induced religion based on dodgy science much like the man made climate change movement.
The information is out there – but you WON’T find it in the news or search for it on Google or Youtube.
FYI;
Of the 50,335 deaths that occurred in March to June 2020 involving COVID-19 in England and Wales, 45,859 (91.1%) had at least one pre-existing condition, while 4,476 (8.9%) had none.
Add the fact they’re STILL recording deaths of any cause within 28 days of a positive PCR as a ‘Covid death’, you start to see the reality of the situation.
For the first nine months of the pandemic, they were recording deaths as Covid within THREE months of a positive Covid test. This was also pre vaccine.
How about helping prevent obesity, type 2 diabetes and all manner of other conditions with public education?
I’ve got a better idea, we’ll blow billions on vaccine, give two thirds of it to the non vulnerable and create a 10 year patient backlog in the NHS instead, based on shit*y information gathering… 🤔
not to mention taking the vaccine away from poor countries who can’t even Vaccinate their vulnerable.
I’m not anti-vax but jabbing people under 50 (unless they have underlying issues) seems largely pointless. There needs to be balance, and teenagers?
They need to weigh up the benefits of sticking vaccines into everyone regardless. The people getting sick are the un-jabbed elderly, obese and vulnerable.
Comparing this to things like TB and Polio is unhelpful…
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Indoctrination is a key component in religion so is it any surprise? I think people will just zone out in the end, there’s only so long they can keep spreading fear and guilt to intimidate people into doing the things they want.
We have a vaccine, and effective treatments, sadly some people will still die. Sadly far more people will have died from everything else as a result of the cock ups trying to manage this problem. Governments have spent billions buying up vaccine, don’t expect the bullsh*t to stop yet.
Time to use the auxiliary hospitals they spend billions on to take the pressure off A&E rather than spend further billions jabbing people over and over to little or no effect. They don’t know what they’re doing, that’s the reality. Like you say, many people are now Covid cultists…
Those will all become side effects of covid.
Try Duck Duck Go search engine. Google will try to conceal it.
Including an increased number of professional footballers.
Covid has become a religion and I’m not sure how we get out of it.
For sure HH. Last count 106 – FIFA registered players and coaches dying. After Aguero’s condition (and subsequent retirement) the media said it was due to increased pressures on footballers in the modern game!!!
Add to that incidents in the crowds (was it two last Wednesday) and you would think there might be something unusual going on but hey – ‘nothing to see here’ from the media. Trevor Sinclair dared to mention the ‘V’ word on Talk Sport the other week and the whole program was shut down before he finished the sentence…………. go figure.
The question you have to ask yourself is “In all my years watching live sport – how many times have I seen elite athletes collapse like they have been shot ? How many times have there been incidents in the crowd that cause the game to stop” – and ” what has changed in the last year?”.
The information is out there – but you find it in the news or search for it on Google or Youtube.
Who are the general population who are not vulnerable to serious illness from COVID? How do you identify them before they get COVID, at which time it is too late for those for whom it will be serious? There are, for example, numerous examples of fit young people severely affected by COVID, including long COVID. Some would say prevention is better than cure.
And while there may be issues with vaccines, many older folk will remember back to a time when diseases like polio were common and yet now, due to vaccination, polio is almost unheard of.
We are going to get to a point where the deaths from Covid are at the same levels as seasonal flu, which kills a significant number every winter. We might even be close to that now we have a vaccine and the medication they can give to reduce serious symptoms.
However, fat chance of getting any accurate figures on it when they’re still counting ALL deaths as Covid within 28 days of a positive test. Fall off a ladder? Throw yourself under a train and it’s obviously Covid because of that positive PCR three weeks back! Would they do that with flu? 🤔 It’s bloody outrageous.
So do we close things down for flu? No, people are off with flu and you get on with it. Vaccines, effective treatments, far less people dying as a result yet we carry on with this ineffective nonsense…
Plus I suspect they’ve all been jabbed too.
Including broken bones, bunions and hair loss.
Let’s hope so, so let’s get back to mowing about our beloved football team and its nefarious ownership! 👍 😃
Indeed. I’ve also seen links to endocarditis and other unpleasant things. It’s likely we won’t know the full extent until a few years down the line.
Sorry you had a bug.
Agreed and I hope your family get through these truly awful times. Feel your pain, my friend, and it sadly makes the football nonsense we talk about pale into insignificance. Here’s to a great 2022.
I’m really sorry to hear that and I completely hear you, I hope your Dad will get the treatment and help he needs mate.
I haven’t really got the will to go into details about how the focus on Covid over all else by the NHS has impacted on my family, it’s been, well I’ll just leave it there. It’s boarding on disgraceful, wilful negligence by the people that run the organisation. Not so much the people on the front line, the compassionate people.
The c*nts upstairs have willingly allowed loss of life in the name of Covid, on an enormous scale. It will all come out in the end, the true cost of their decisions, Just wait and see, might take years but it will. Truly disgraceful.
Absolutely.
Flu is gone mate, and colds. Unless it’s Covid it’s been cancelled…
We also don’t know how useful the vaccine is to the general population who are not vulnerable to serious illness from Covid.
They say it reduces it’s spread, yet despite the huge vaccine roll out we had/have increasing cases of all variants as restrictions were lifted (well before this recent Omnicron strain).
Like I said before, I have two pals who got Covid around the same time, both the same age, one double jabbed the other never jabbed yet identical symptoms, duration, severity and lingering after effects (smell taste etc).
How can that be if the vaccine is effective for all? It seems it very much helps stop people getting seriously ill, so those vulnerable.
There seems to be growing evidence that there is little benefit to the rest of the population, both in terms of spread and reduction in symptoms if you get it. I’m no expert, don’t claim to be, I’m just going on what I’ve seen with people I know and myself.
I also know two un-vaxed people who had the antigen test who had Covid antibodies and they hadn’t realised they’d contracted Covid at all, pretty much asymptomatic.
By the way, the latest on the Omnicron strain is that it’s largely asymptomatic, despite our muppet PM rushing in measures like the total dick he is. The more the thing mutates and spreads the less virulent it will became, so it spreads more easily but has less and less symptoms.
You can’t hold back nature, even less so with largely ineffective face masks and neglecting the hand to face hygiene thing. The people in charge don’t know what they’re doing I’m afraid. They’re just good at pretending they do…
Well Spurs are obviously going to play along anyway with their ownership being members of ‘the big club’ but somebody needs to take a stand and do so without fear especially of the whore media. They don’t exactly get much respect from the people anyway. If you look at comments the majority don’t buy into it all now and the media is seen as being fear mongers and if they go after, and point at the people not wearing masks for example it’s not like they have the people all saying how bad that is.
They don’t hold that much influence over many people and if they tried to scorn spurs for not taking it deadly seriously they wouldn’t have everyone marching down the high road with torches of fire looking to burn down the stadium.
What could theoretically happen is Spurs say “look the players are fine, we play as scheduled.
People are not being hospitalised by the variant so what’s the problem?”
Someone will need to do this eventually (Sooner rather than later I hope) or we just carry on in this farce.
I know it seems hard to snap out of something that has dominated everything for nearly two years, but they are banking on you growing attached and used to COVID so they can keep imposing things off the back of it.
Let go of it and I don’t just mean YOU, I mean anyone here. The measures around it are far more damaging than the thing itself and will only get worse. It only goes on if we let it.
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Lost an uncle.
Again I agree. Just not sure the club could risk the media backdraft if it all came out. Oh and FYI – no one gets the flu anymore apparently 😂😂😂
Depends how seriously you take the situation I suppose.
I don’t really buy into the term super spreader event to begin with so it’s only if you, THFC or ANYONE actually buys into this being a real crisis to begin with.
I ignore all of the measures personally and have done from the start.
If the club said we have two players who are unwell and can’t play and a few more have had some flu like symptoms but are fine to play nobody would care. But have it under the COVID nonsense and ooooh nooooo! Call off the game, close the training ground, nobody sneeze within 100ft of anyone else!!! It’s pathetic.
It’s a ruling class project, we need to start ignoring the project and living normally or they will constantly abuse us with restrictions and implant terminology into our heads like ‘anti-vaxxer’, ‘super spreader event’, etc… etc…
L I love an uncle to cancer recently having tried to unsuccessfully see a doctor about a sore throat for over 12 months. My dad has a lump on his body that was wrongly diagnosed during a zoom call with his doctor and now also has found out it’s cancer. Assuming Covid is the only thing the NHS needed to focus on has been gross mismanagement on the part of the government. Career politicians are far more slanderous than any disease IMO.
Can the club actually take that action? The politics around super spreader events are far bigger than THFC. Don’t disagree with your sentiment but you aren’t promoting action that is practical. .
Hope you get better soon. Enjoy seeing the opinions on the site – thanks.
People who don’t want to take this are not generally anti vax per se so you have been brainwashed by that term. You also put words in their mouths to make your claim.
If it wasn’t being tantamount forced then there would be nobody bothered enough to pass comment, and the issue is more nuanced than some are anti and some are pro.
The science may be presented by the ‘majority’ but that’s only because of the people that are put up in front of you pushing them ie. People in the pockets of the pharma companies that produce the vaccines who as you even mention can not present the science adequately anyway since there is no long term data.
What we do know is that the virus appears to have mutated to a state of being more transmissible but milder in strength which is actually good news and means that we have no need for vaccination, and now would be the time to stop hiding under the bed and take it for what it is without any big concern. But hey there are vaccines to use and as we have given up our rights anyway, and there is plenty of power to wield over the weak minded people.
About the game: What I say is this, are they too ill to play? More ill than the players were after lasagnagate?
If not then we play the game, the players who are well enough pull on their shirts and we all just stop pretending that EVERYONE has the likelihood of severe illness as an 85 year old obese diabetic.
Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery m8! And thanks again for your work here – always enjoy the banter.
As for Spurs, I’d just as soon field 11 healthy U23s, play at a covid-free venue and exit this senseless competition once and for all rather than adding another game to an already crowded fixture,
For me, I’m more than a little perturbed by what I perceive to be an increase in people ‘collapsing’
The entire business is a mess.
Can’t say I know much about Covid (then again, few can), so I can’t answer the questions you pose, but I wholeheartedly agree with the last paragraph. Some politicians are so incredibly inept that their actions seem like wilful sabotage.
I think the only thing we can really take away from this is that we need to be careful with any absolute claims. Hardened antivaxxers and hardened…”vaxxers” are both wrong. Antivaxxers because they think that their versions of “common sense” can outweigh majority science, vaxxers because we really don’t know if there are serious long-term effects to getting jabbed.
They might not be particularly sick at all, young fit lads? Mild cold mate…
I find it slightly troubling, that the mantra at the beginning of all of this was washing of hands and not touching your face. Walking into most places now, you really see hand sanitiser, usually an empty bottle. Even less do you see people actually using it. taking a piece of crappy material on and off all day long just encourages you to touch the exact part of your body that is most susceptible to picking up an infection.
Face masks are useful at very close quarters to help reduce the chance of someone spreading it to someone else, but they offer almost zero protection. The other settings that we are required to wear them, is doing nothing but encouraging more touching of the face. Completely counter-productive.
We very rarely hear about hand to face touching or hand hygiene anymore. It’s obviously because it would debunk the mask myth. Clean hands don’t virtue signal like masks do, so politically of little use to governments. “Lets stop talking about hands and faces now shall we? it’ll only encourage the suspicion that we have no control of this thing whatsoever.”
Yet face masks are all the rage, for governments all over the world as a visual signal that they are doing something useful in all this. No wonder you get conspiracy theories, the levels of incompetence leave some people looking for answers in other places…
8 players and 5 staff now, thats pretty serious. Calling off UEFA game surely sets a precedent the league cant ignore.
Thats us done til Liverpool now I’d say, problem is the sick lads wont have much recovery time if any so fitness wont be great even if they’re well in 10 days.
Hopefully not much worse (if that’s possible) then a dose of man flu. Get well soon HH.
Hurrah
Rennes game is postponed
Agreed! Hope you get better soon!