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I’m Bewildered As To How Utterly Abysmal Tottenham’s Big Money Signings Have Been

By Harry Hotspur -

There was a scene in the Spurs All or Nothing documentary where Donna Marie Cullen, Daniel Levy, and the man himself Steve Hitchen were gathered, and the point was made that the club have actually spent significant sums on players, and how little commentary there was on this.

My complaints against ENIC are more nuanced than simply wanting the board to splurge cash like an unhinged lottery winner. For me, it’s always been a question of spending on the right players and at the right time. Again, leaving Mauricio Pochettino swinging in the transfer breeze for over 500 days was contemptible behaviour; but beyond this, we have the frankly haphazard manner in which money is spent when it is eventually prized from the coffers.

Whilst I fully appreciate that not every transfer pans out to be a historic success, how is it that Tottenham’s ability to pick a winner is so very poor?

Look at the graphic above and provide us all with a compelling argument that supports the notion that ‘one out of ten’ isn’t bad. Kindly bear in mind that emotional nonsense isn’t welcome here. This is OUR money we’re talking about. A passing fondness for Erik Lamela’s rabona will be in the mists of time, only mildly more significant than David Bentley’s ball into a waste skip routine. Moussa Sissoko was referred to as a ‘GOAT’ out of charity.

It is a testament to the chaotic manner with which ENIC has operated in the markets that one of the best players to have found himself in a Tottenham shirt in recent years was the not-so-Magnificent Seven’s 8th man, Heung Min Son.

The rest of the list is a hall of shame, nice guys that didn’t work, and the extraordinary cherry on the past it’s best before date cake is Tanguy Ndombele, about whom it appears that no due diligence was undertaken as all the problems encountered with him at Spurs had surfaced long before he arrived in N17.

Now Richarlison is the next one set to grace us with his presence, a player Everton broke the bank for 4 seasons ago, who has failed to perform sufficiently for them. In his entire career, the now 25-year-old has never been a prolific striker, no matter how some might seek to skew the stats.

We are told that all the Brazilian needs is to be in the right team, with the right coach. I can’t argue against Spurs being a superior side, or Conte being a superior coach. Yet I remain beyond sceptical as to the valuation.

I genuinely hope this guy does the business in the Lilywhite, like all of us, I’m desperate for meaningful success, tangible success. but the evidence is stacked up against the likelihood of that outcome.

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Kosher Kid
Kosher Kid
1 month ago

Is it me or is there the slightest chance that this 60 million for Richarlison is somehow linked to the deal Everton struck for Dele that could rise to 40 million?

Two under achieving players who had previously shown potential and sustained periods of form but had both lost their way, to varying degrees, at their respective clubs?

Is this essentially a swap deal of sorts; brokered in January but the Richarlison to Spurs can was kicked down the road until the summer?

To Everton’s credit they avoided Winks in favour of some cash on top to sweeten it a little more.

We’ve paid 20 million for Richarlison, generated expectation and hyperbole, and given Everton Dele.

Say it isn’t so.

Kosher Kid
Kosher Kid
1 month ago
Reply to  Kosher Kid

How much is Winks being touted for?

Is it 20 million?

I see a pattern emerging………

Urbane Sturgeon
Urbane Sturgeon
1 month ago

When was the last time our record signing turned out to be our best player? Arguably Paul Gascoigne in 1988. It certainly wasn’t Darren Bent, or Rebrov, or Paulinho, or Soldado, or Sanchez, or N’belly. The list isn’t quite endless, it just feels like it is. The 1980s was the last time our club’s due diligencers knew what they were doing in that regard.

A truly shocking state of affairs.

Ned
Ned
1 month ago

Berbatov

Ned
Ned
1 month ago
Reply to  Ned

Not record but close to our top dollar for a player at the time. 15mil?

Urbane Sturgeon
Urbane Sturgeon
1 month ago

My hope, given that I don’t like Mr Tumble’s stroppy character, is that he turns out, under Conte, to be able to do for us what the ever charming and easy to warm to Diego Costa did for chelski (can’t really call them that any more can I); being an aggressive, bullying, moaning, drama queen who knew how to disrupt a well-organised defence. If our version turns out to be nearly as useful, it’ll be – can’t believe I’m saying this – 60 million well spent.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago

Lol.. Apart from Sonny, and it was unfortunate that Coco picked up so many injuries, that list is terrible…Inflation and money in the game means they’re all in recent years and shows how shocking we’ve been. Our scouts and transfer system needed to be sorted out years ago.. It was a slow but steady decline ever since Mitchell left.. Maureen steadied the ship for a year or two.
I’m well happy with business so far this summer though. Our churn is well and truly under way and there is still over a month left.. I predicted 6 or 7 or more to come in.. 5 or 6 or more to move on.. Looking about right at this stage..

Not a fan of the new 5 sub rule… They have to keep messing with the rules don’t they.

at large
at large
1 month ago

The other thing about Richarlison is that apparently Everton needed to come up with some money before July 1 to avoid FFP sanctions so the overpay for Richarlison might be mitigated somewhat in a future transaction, like if we were able to foist Winky on them for 15-20m or in exchange for a useful player like Gordon.

StuSpur
StuSpur
1 month ago

The stat’s aren’t great but what are stat’s without context?
As far as I’m concerned there is one man I want to be entrusted with deciding who is worth buying and that is Conte. If conte wanted Richarlison then in conte I trust

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Paul
Paul
1 month ago

What, nothing in the loan has change for performances or buy/not buy clause. It has been dissected by Romano who I trust, we would only be wasting capital to consummate an all out purchase now. He is not the same as Romero options becoming due, but get I it. Levy, Levy Levy some dark room conspiracy going.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago

Just a thought but as we haven’t exercised the option to buy Kulu which I understand will cost us more next season, why haven’t we done so? Is it at all possible that Levy has bought Richarlison to effectively replace Kulu if the option is not compulsory? On another question, I see that some sites are linking us with Lingard, particularly as we need to increase our home grown contingent. He’s 29 and a free.

Andrew
Andrew
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Not sure why Kulu hasn’t been signed on a permanent deal yet but no I don’t agree. He’s proven far too valuable and at 22 has his best years ahead.

at large
at large
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Unless he regresses I can’t think of any reason why we won’t buy Kulu when it needs to get done. Lingard on a free would be great business but I think he really wants to go back to West Ham god bless him.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  at large

It will cost more to exercise the option next season if I have understood it correctly. Unlike Levy to waste money like this.

Paddio
Paddio
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

in the cost of buying footballers its not alot only 5 million euros more,
Better to have the cash to spend on other players this window first.
Levy is the accountant as well, so it depends on repayment structure of the deal as well, is it better to wait for 5 million Euros?

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

The Koolio transfer has been booted down a year I’m pretty sure because of finances. We won’t have to declare him this year so this will probably release more funds to spend right now.. We will still be buying him.. The lad loves it here.

at large
at large
1 month ago

Also, one thing we can all agree on is that the banter here is the best. Happy 4th of July weekend comrades!

Markp
Markp
1 month ago
Reply to  at large

to you as well

at large
at large
1 month ago

As an unabashed Levy basher, I’m naturally skeptical of every transaction. But we all have to admit that something changed in the last year. Never in a million years did I ever think Conte would sign to coach at Spurs. If he sat out the whole year he could’ve had his pick of jobs – PSG, Juve, maybe even Barca. And yet he chose Spurs. He’s not an idiot, clearly he was promised signings and money to spend for his choice players. So far Levy appears to have delivered. I still think this is part of ENIC’s endgame ploy whereby they open the alleged “war chest” to establish market valuation thereby avoiding massive taxes on a club sale, but whatever the motivation, Levy is spending money on proven players. Prem players.

Is Richarlison the right signing? Of the 4 rumoured Brazilians on the move, I’d rank them best to worst: Rafinha, Richarlison, Paqueta, Jesus. But as for fit, Rafinha is more a winger/CAM and Richarlison is a better fit as a forward/backup striker in Conte’s system, where he can start up front with Harry and Sonny, and back the 2 up as well. He’s basically another Sonny. I don’t have a problem with that. Jesus is similar, more of a striker, but has trouble finishing as we’ve seen many many times at City. Paqueta is more of a CAM with no prem experience.

Is the price right for Richarlison? Probably an overpay, but that’s balanced with Bissouma’s underpay. Net net 80m for the pair I’d say is fair business.

The last time we signed a proven prem player not including Joe Hart – PEH – has worked out pretty well. And Romero, Kulu and Bentancur have each proven to be good signings. Conte too. So, let’s see what happens but I am encouraged by recent business, although I still wouldn’t trust Levy to walk my dog across the street to paraphrase a great American athlete’s sentiment once.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  at large

Great summation Largey.

at large
at large
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Thanks Easty! Cautiously optimistic is my current sentiment.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago

I said previously, our forays into Brazilian players rarely ends well. This latest signing doesn’t suggest any different. He left Watford with great expectations for Everton. It didn’t come. He’s not even managed to be their stand out player in a mediocre squad.

The point about our missed transfer windows will forever be valid. We won’t ever recover from that IMO. Levy shoulders the majority of the blame but he’s magic you know was complicit. He said he was berry happy with his lot.

As a long standing Spurs fan 50 + years.I’ve not been excited about a transfer window in 20+ years. Thanks Daniel 👍

Abram
Abram
1 month ago

The signings are good decent players, and the coach knows his job. BUT, with ENIC/Levy in-charge? I know most of you do not want to hear negative talk right now. The team will win 3/4 games & then it’s back to square one. No momentum to push on. It has to be said that the problems of Spurs are structural. The team qualifies but never wins anything. Therefore, the culture of winning doesn’t take root. Why? Because of the leadership.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago
Reply to  Abram

Welcome to sanity. Nobody in This forum is an ENIC or Levy fan. Anything negative about these charlatans is positively encouraged. You’re on sticky ground if you are a fan.

Paddio
Paddio
1 month ago

Richarlison is for the Conte plan B, I see more a Martinez style player and Kane plays a full on 9 role (as per Lukaku).
The recruitment historically been poor but January was a little different. kulusevski you could argue was better than Diaz.
Its about getting the side better. Our recruitment so far are improvements on what they replace.

Sonificent
Sonificent
1 month ago
Reply to  Paddio

I agree January was decent but Kulu better than Diaz? That’s hard to make a case for, as much as I would love it to be true. Kulu is a good signing though and improved us greatly over Berg/Moura/etc

Paddio
Paddio
1 month ago
Reply to  Sonificent

Premier league goals and assists, both joined similar times.
it is more if we are working to something as a club, recruitment may seem a little off, but like saying someone was a Juve cast off.
Personally the club needs to follow a style of play at all levels and get Conte on a longer deal.

Sonificent
Sonificent
1 month ago
Reply to  Paddio

Yes- Conte extending his deal would be a huge positive. Anyway, love Kulu!

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

With what’s been done to the club under the pretences that have been wheeled out, with the set up and all the bullsh%t “compete” narratives, if a striker is what Levy was going for then the only name which would have made me take them seriously as really changing would have been Haarland.

Unrealistic? Why the stadium and all the trumpets then?

Its all cock and bull.

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SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

You are upset because we didn’t get Haaland? Us and the other twenty clubs who missed out. His dad and City had that wrapped up for about two seasons, dream on.

Back on earth, this is a good window as were the previous signings of Bentancur, Kulu and Romero in the last two windows. The hit rate is improving, have to acknowledge that at least?

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

I’m not upset. It’s an example of quality that a team with the fountain of narratives about competing should be going for….if they were not just empty pr.

Thats exactly the problem. Dream on. ENIC have trained the fan base to think like that. Anything of real world class merit is dream material.

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SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

Not getting Haaland is a terrible example to use as evidence of a lack of ambition or foresight is my point.

We used to sell our world class players – now we’re refusing to, which is a massive step to begin with. I believe we’re attemptin to go to the net step – buying world class players, potentially world class or those close to world class.

We attempted to sign Martinez and Bastoni, they refused. It’s not as simple as you are making it sound.

Who were the five last truly world class signings to a PL club? So few I wouldn’t be surprised if Pogba to United is still on that list. Think you’ll find they are quite rare, usually it’s close to world class or potentially world class like nearly every Liverpool signing. The PL clubs don’t buy Neymar, City getting Haaland is the exception that proves the rule.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Maybe world class isn’t the right term. But top players that the stadium was supposed to bring. Also Haarland was know for a while, it was clear even after a few months at Dortmund he was extraordinary. So it’s not an impossible notion. Makes me wonder why these players are refusing if that’s the case…. stadium… facilities….CL football isn’t an excuse anymore….that leaves one thing….or one chairman.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

We were gazumped for the Liverpool lad which shows the position we’re in – willing to pay the salary and fee but they had the full package at that time.

Bastoni, even with the backing of his club, wouldn’t shift – he doesn’t fancy the club, league or even the country maybe.

Martinez we’re trying similar to City with Haaalnd, been sounding him out for seasons now, City waited two for Haaland, even the mighty City were kept waiting, Same with Liverpool with Bellingham. If we drop out of the CL qualification we might miss out on Martinez in a future window but we are definitely trying for him and apparently we either readied a bid or verbally presented an offer to Inter.

Chelsea have tried the same gazumping trick as Liverpool only now with Richarlison but Chelsea aren’t quite such a bigger draw and we have been working with Everton all window and saw it coming.

Romero was the best defender in Italy that year, not a bad attempt at signing a top class player. I fully expected Bissouma to go to Liverpool so again a very strong signing.

What I will say is I’d like to see us sign a big player after the six deal we’ve seemingly tied up already, so the window isn’t perfect by any means. There’s an element of frustration still but I’m looking at the business of other clubs in the league and we’re doing well.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Bellingham was another one. That’s a statement.

Sonificent
Sonificent
1 month ago

Pamela and Sissoko were what? 😂😂😂😂😂 You should stop there…..

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
1 month ago
Reply to  Sonificent

Successful in filling their bank accounts.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
1 month ago

Lamela and Sissoko successful. Successful in what sense!

Snow Patrol
Snow Patrol
1 month ago

I would rather we overpaid for this proven Premier League talent than waste the same amount on two French Ligue punts.
There are not many strikers who would bet on themselves to get in ahead of our front three but this boy obviously has belief in his own ability. He an upgrade on Moura and should mean the end of Bergy.
if he’s good enough for Brazil who are we to complain.

Bring on the new season – it can’t come soon enough for me.

Very impressed with the transfer business so far and if it finished like this I’d still be happy.
Yes I’d like us to get rid of a few but at least with Conte at the wheel I don’t think the wage thieves will be tolerated and they can train on their own. Levy will soon get fed up with their wages and will take any offers he can get.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
1 month ago
Reply to  Snow Patrol

Paulinho was good enough for Brazil. And Moura.

Snow Patrol
Snow Patrol
1 month ago

And both improved the Spurs squad at the time of their purchase. They may not have set the world alight but they certainly were not like some of the duds on our Top Ten list

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

Yes, different game out there and Brazil spend most of their time playing Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
1 month ago

They don’t have some of the dross we have round them.

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
1 month ago

The only way I can make any sense of Richarlison is that he is a replacement for Harry Kane.

At the end of the season Harry will have one year left on his contract and unless he signs an extension he’ll almost certainly be sold.

Hallenbeck
Hallenbeck
1 month ago

A common thread among those are that they were big signings from other leagues (apart from Sissoko). Bringing in well established players from other leagues is clearly, evidently risky. The difference with Richarlison is that he has a lot of Premier League experience. He has also done quite well in a poor team unlike, say, Jesus who has done quite well in a magnificent team. Therefore, all things considered, he is less risky and more likely to do well than any of these others.

I’d also wager that Conte intends to fully exploit his capability to wind up the opposition (as we did so well in the NLD) as a tactical advantage.

We only have £150m. It’s not much considered how much we need. We need a versatile, ready to go forward with PL experience. I’m not sure who else would fit the bill for the price without it being a big risk. This seems like reasonable business to me. A risk, yes, but a considered one.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  Hallenbeck

As close to a risk free signing would be to purchase any player in the PL who’s been in the club’s top three performers for two or three consecutive seasons.

Bissouma and Richarlison definitely qualify, as did maybe Hojbjerg I’d imagine.

Not totally without risk as Doherty maybe proves (not sure he was quite top three player consistent at Wolves) and other moves like United signing Alexis Sanchez etc

Still, I’d say about as risk free a strategy as you get and I have no problem with these two signings. They may not work out but they’re logical and aggressively competitive in the market against our rivals.

KiwiJonno
KiwiJonno
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

And we have for once acted quite quickly, instead of the ridiculous brinkmanship from Dr Evil..
They might even get a chance to play together before the start of the season how about that..

dembeleshapedhole
dembeleshapedhole
1 month ago

Happy Clappers….Feel free to see ENIC for what it is

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Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

Groundhog. It’s a couple of years ago again with the Ndombele deal.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

the only similarity in the players or nature of the deal is the potential fee? we can’t ever sign another record signing out of principle?

dembeleshapedhole
dembeleshapedhole
1 month ago

I stopped reading when sissoko and lamela were mooted as successes. thanks for putting a smile on my face

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

It’s cunning stuff. ENIC have convinced a large percentage of the fan base that they are “different” and the coffers are empty, they can easily chuck 60/80 mill every few years for a mercy flirt. That’s what they’ve done. There’s no ambition and there never will be otherwise Poch would’ve been backed.
They’re focus remains off the pitch and with alternative income like NFL/events. A perpetual tight rope act of PR and misdirection so fans will be always thinking they are on the cusp of something big…just enough to keep the punters from doing a runner…

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Dirk
Dirk
1 month ago

Will you admit that you are wrong when spurs end up having a successful season?

I have been so frustrated over recent years and on top of the lack of investment in the squad at a crucial time, we have let key players go and brought in expensive flimflam.

But if you can’t see change or progress in what’s been happening since Conte’s arrival, you need to pop some rose tinted glasses on & rest your eyes for a bit.

Richarlison is a fighter who happens to also be a very good footballer. Lets stop whining about stats, numbers etc.. and just give it a season to see what these very professional coaches, managers, scouts, sports psych, physios etc etc can put together on the pitch. By all means whinge, but give it until at least until March next year, to see if there’s new life or if it still is all about ENIC & the devil.

Scott McKenna
Scott McKenna
1 month ago

***Everton fan here*** (this article was linked on BBC Sport website)

Oh my god, the levels of disrespect in this article are quite frightening. Brazil’s Number 9. Our best player. Only 25 years old. We sold him too cheaply and should have held out for more….

Scott McKenna
Scott McKenna
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

I don’t quite get the relevance. Are you saying you can’t have good players in 5h1t teams?

Snow Patrol
Snow Patrol
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

That’s like stating raphinha and kalvin phillips aren’t good players because Leeds were nearly relegated.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

How about those 2 centre half’s clough got in 1978??

Paddio
Paddio
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

you mean like
Trippier
Parker
Roy Keane went down with forest is probably the best lol

Paddio
Paddio
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Though a lot of dross we moved on have blossomed abroad ha ha ha

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Everton got in top 4 year after Rooney left. That ain’t free fall.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

You’re an Everton fan ain’t u.?

Kosher Kid
Kosher Kid
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Ronnie Rosenthal, Micky Hazard (from Swindon), and who can forget Andy Booth.

What a trio.

ForzaSpurs
ForzaSpurs
1 month ago
Reply to  Kosher Kid

Andy Robertson hull city is one I can only think of in the last decade lol

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Dirk
Dirk
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott McKenna

I hear you mate. People have been fuming for so long they find it hard to accept that things might be changing. I hope you have a good season & a lot of us, happy-clappers apparently are happy that Richarlison has come to spurs.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

It’s tactical fan appeasement. Heard Shill Jim White open his show with “do Tottenham fans owe Mr Levy an apology?” He actually said ” 60 million…oOoOO, it’s alot of money isn’t it?”. Effin embarrassing.

Its alot of money for that player yes, but not in the scheme of things.

A club turned into a corporate monster with no resemblance to what we loved, 1 league cup in 20 plus years, countless destroyed local businesses and lost homes from the continued gentrification of the area around the new eye sore……so No. No apology off the back of an average player the team doesn’t even need.

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Dirk
Dirk
1 month ago

I defer to your experience. I’m happy that the football team seems to be heading in the right direction but yeah, not a fan of corporations acting with impunity, gentrification & breaking down of communities. If I lived in the area I would find it a difficult to accept. I don’t know much about ENIC but we see similar faceless profiteering, rent seeking all over the world. People have the power to effect change but not many will when they are making money.

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
1 month ago

I think it’s fair to say that most clubs, particularly the bigger ones have had their fair share of poor investments if you want to describe players as such but they are commodities at the end of the day. Like most things in life, the buck stops at the top. It is Levy who should shoulder the blame for our disastrous actions in the transfer market over twenty three years. I use Liverpool as an example who until FSG took over, had had a pretty ropey track record in the transfer market. They initiated a root and branch reform of their entire scouting, analysis and recruitment teams having identified them as weaknesses. Pointedly ,they recruited Michael Edwards from Spurs who was responsible for many of their successful signings and who is currently on the market. The result is there for all to see. Levy, on the other hand, has flipflopped from having a DoF for several seasons and then not having one when to all extents and purposes, he was always the one making the recruitment decisions. Paul Mitchell is a good example who was recruited from Southampton to oversee our transfer strategy, , one imagines on the back of a Poch recommendation, only to be placed put on gardening leave without any discernible reason. He has gone on to being very successful at RB Leipzig and currently Monaco. Hitchen was a yes man and subsequently a patsy for Levy who never addressed the real nuts and bolts of recruitment as he was too busy building up the property portfolio. To sum up, our transfer strategy has been appalling for many years and it is not only who we signed but just as importantly whom we didn’t sign because Levy haggled and prevaricated and then lost out to other clubs. Only time will tell if Richarlison will be a good signing. On the face of it he looks expensive but I think it fair to say that we have a much stronger squad now with some strong characters like Perisic and Bissouma signed and we should be much more competitive than last season.

Tangangry
Tangangry
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

I don’t often agree with most of your comments, but this lot is indisputable!

Dirk
Dirk
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

This comment fills some gaps for me. It also fits what I have seen over the years. It looks like this season might be a good one and that Mr Levy has learned some important lessons on running a football club. Lets hope it continues from here & doesn’t implode. I don’t think it works but (for sure) am still baffled by the transfer decisions of previous years. I almost have to pinch myself that we got Conte and he’s still with us and that he & the DoF have been allowed to work without apparent interference.

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East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

Good stuff Marbs.

SimonSpur
SimonSpur
1 month ago

Was Steve Hitchen part of the problem?

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  SimonSpur

He looked useless in the doc, I’m saying he was definitely partly culpable

Tangangry
Tangangry
1 month ago

So many posts on here over the years moaning about how Levy never does business early in the window, loses us a month, player didn’t have preseason, other clubs just pay the asking price and get it done, back the manager etc etc.

Now we have just done precisely all of those things the moaners complain we overpaid and that the player isn’t any good! Would you rather have signed Jesus? No thanks. Neymar said to be available, maybe we should have signed him?

Personally I’d rather have it this way around. How overpriced was he? £10m? £15m? What does it matter? We got the player the manager wanted and a player that wanted to come and it’s not even July yet!

Andrew
Andrew
1 month ago
Reply to  Tangangry

Well said. Bearing in mind all players under Conte improve, even Dier and Davies, so a 20% improvement from Richarlisson means a decent addition.

ForzaSpurs
ForzaSpurs
1 month ago
Reply to  Andrew

If Richarlisom scores 2 more goals than last season for Everton he will have had more goals than Mahrez.it will be difficult to get the entire front 3 banging in over 20 goals each. Remember that goals are shared between the front 3

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  Tangangry

The incomings have been shat.

Paddio
Paddio
1 month ago

But I struggle to see they are not better than the ones they replace.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  Paddio

Maybe. Like for slightly less bad like.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

If you believe Perisic and Bissouma are ‘shat’ then I give up!

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Perisic is 97

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago

And bissouma sounds like a doozy. Banned from driving in UK for repeated speeding and was only cleared of sexual assault in a club after the big move to ENIC FC….wonder who made that go away?

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

Grealish was equally as much of a playboy and always crashing his motor, so what?

We bemoan a lack of leaders and experience…and then fans poo poo a signing like Perisic? Again, don’t get it.

Which Premier League signings are you envious of so far within the window? Other than Haaland for reasons previously discussed! Who should we be following as a realistic example?

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Realistic. That means , not top quality then.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

It means attainable. As in, teams have purchased players already this window…who’s done the smart business you think we’re lagging behind on

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

It’s not even specifically this summer. I’ve commented on many targets in the past that have gone to other clubs and succeeded. I don’t watch football anymore but I know Fraser Forster, past it perisic and richarlison isn’t a fair exchange for the soul of a football club.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

I get the sentiment but putting these particular signings up against the expectations of justifying the stadium is a stretch. I don’t know what the achieves. Anyway, good chat 🙂

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

You sound aggravated we can’t be PSG within the Premier League when even City struggle to be that

Tangangry
Tangangry
1 month ago

Shouldn’t Kulu and Romero make the top half of this list – I thought they were “obligation to buy” loans?

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
1 month ago
Reply to  Tangangry

There’s an even longer list of flops that weren’t even mentioned, N’Koudou, N’jie and on and on.

VincentianMagic
VincentianMagic
1 month ago

Indeed, our purchasing has been flawed for many a year. Of that list, only Son stands out as value for money.

Richarlison may come good – he has a 1:3 scoring record in average teams. However, he is the sort of player that you hate when playing. He works hard, can play across the front line, including as CF, and offers that little bit of needle that is sometimes needed.

Is he worth £50M+, probably not. However, he is better than previous options employed and I’d rather him than someone like Jesus, who is IMHO just a smaller, less aggressive version.

My main concerns are with the CB area: Lenglet is OK, but I think we should be striving for better. Barcelona cast-offs are not usually worth taking up. If Bremer can play on the left (I know he’s right-footed), then either him or the more naturally positioned Torres would be much better.

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Tangangry
Tangangry
1 month ago

I can’t argue with that sentiment when you look at the list, but I think Richarlson is a great signing. Especially when you consider the usual recruitment policy for strikers in previous years.

One of Everton’s best players, bags of Prem experience, a regular up from for BRAZIL ffs. The man has the right attitude, he’s a fighter and a grafter and gives us versatility and genuine competition for places up front.

I don’t care how much he cost, we supposedly have £150m to spend – and we’re now only half way through it!

A goal behind in the Champions League quarter final with half hour to go, I for one will be delighted to see his number come up.

Charles Crawford
Charles Crawford
1 month ago

Pogba. Lukaku. Osil. This piece is a classic example of confirmation bias 😏😏

SimonSpur
SimonSpur
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Indeed. Is he saying all those players listed were successful buys? I don’t think anyone can, the exception being Son of course.

paxtonyid
paxtonyid
1 month ago

What have they all got in common? All signed under our previous inept scouting set up. Levy had entrusted Hitchen et al with a decent amount of money. Only Son out of players signed under Hitchen’s tenure have performed.

We’ve brought in 2 players under the new lot- both have fit in effortlessly.

V V
V V
1 month ago

Your continued pessimism is utterly tedious

Vic
Vic
1 month ago
Reply to  Harry Hotspur

Your thoughts and comments are depressing. I keep blocking your posts but you pop up again like a floating turd. Why not comment after we have seen him play for a season?

James McKevitt.
James McKevitt.
1 month ago
Reply to  Vic

We have seen him play, for several seasons

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

Just noticed Reggie in there, more expensive than I realised, ouch

VincentianMagic
VincentianMagic
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

When he first played, it seemed like a bargain…

…now, not so much I guess.

I’d sell and purchase someone else/use the monies elsewhere – like a world-class CB and AM.

Cabspur
Cabspur
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Yeah I thought he was 21mil or something ,, gutted…

Mr wag
Mr wag
1 month ago

Would not be happy with Richarlson if Conte wasn’t the coach so fingers crossed. Doubt we paid 60m. More like 40 with add ons. Levy and co prevented Poch from winning stuff with their short sighted attitude. Now they’re trying to play catch up.so they can stay in the top 4 each year. Agree they don’t care about winning. Lenglet on loan is ok but still hope we sign another decent centre back too and bin off Sanchez. I wonder where Ndombellend will end up on loan? And Lo Noshow?

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
1 month ago

HH points re transfers to a degree based on short term reaction rather than long term proactive scouting and a realisation what we will need rather than what we need right now.
Of course much of this hinged on the famous ‘ sell before you buy routine’ which either leaves us searching the bins or getting overcharged for misfits.
How Gonna Cullen Steve Hitchenaride and Levy got away with it is incredible , unless they were taking the p#ss all along.
I notice the transfers stop at 30 mil ..good job ..the lower value acquisitions and the placing of square pegs into round holes at Spurs has been another hilarious facet of the incompetence of the transfer committee..unless your a Spurs fan of course.
NDembele too fat to play ..get him in..farcical.
Lets hope Paratici and Conte can keep the lunacy at bay for a couple more years.

Last edited 1 month ago by Billy Tonsils
East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

Finally we have a some kind of backup for Kane, it’s taken about five years to get here…

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

This is why I’m parking my reservations, he can’t be as bad as having Llorente, Janssen or A. Kid on the bench

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Yeah true, although I quite liked Llorente as a backup option. We obviously needed more than him but he was the best of a bad bunch for me…

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

I hated Llorente as a backup option! I mean he was a ‘cult figure’ like ‘The Pav’ and who have you but so so limited.

It played into the whole Spursy thing – a loveable mostly useless player scoring off his arse or elbow in the Champions League but smiles all round. Until he just lets you down and you exit the competition one round later.

Richarlison is just a competent ‘cog in the machine’ signing like Chelsea and City snap up. Spurs fans maybe have that mentality that he has to be a Berbatov or something like that to justify the fee.

You don’t overthink it if you’re Chelsea or City…you just keep going and keep signing others if he’s not the perfect fit so be it you move on.

Paul
Paul
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

We over paid for a position that needed to be filled for 6 years. It is easy on Monday morning to give the answers than it is Sunday. Look at the market and maybe someone can tell be who is out there ready in the Premier League that fits the bill right now for Spurs. Look at Chelsea last big acquisitions and yet they won a champions League without these players delivering on the amount paid in fee individually Ziyech, Pulisic, Werner, and Lukaku. That is a lot of money, but they won. When we start winning all this too will be fodder. You win you bone the prom queen, you loose you hang with the boys and a few pints in your sorrows. Great move. Now let’s sign Lenglet and a creative mid then get on with moving the winkies out. They don’t even need to be replaced and that is our reality like it or not, we are fishing in knee high waters right now.

Archibald&Crooks (SC)
Archibald&Crooks (SC)
1 month ago
  1. I have never before hated a Spurs player. I remember watching John Pratt get slated for being an honest toiler and thought the people slagging him off gobshites. But that has changed with NDonkey I hate the piece of shiz and want him to disappear.

2.Sissoko – this was a signing (and yes I remember it well) – that by far the majority of fans either didnt want or didnt understand – just goes to show how worthless the views of supporters are.

3.Lamela – not bought as a Bale replacement but really bought as a Bale replacement. Had a great record in Italy the season before he signed but turned out to be Anderton MkII.

dembeleshapedhole
dembeleshapedhole
1 month ago

Anderton Mk1 was a very good player with an end product – ask Teddy

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago

True, no one can deny we aren’t very good at targeting the big signings, but this is similar for a lot of clubs – F365 had a feature on the most wasteful spends in Premier league windows and yes, we feature once with the Bale money but Liverpool, Chelsea and United (especially United) have had some absolute shockers. Liverpool had the worst ever window according to the article and once you look at it you’ll find it hard not to agree. United feature five times I think.

In fact some of these shockers resemble the list above…all accumulated in one window. £200-£250 million ALL on high priced flops, five or six of them.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath
T M
T M
1 month ago

He’s scored goals in a Watford and Everton team with average players around him. Imagine what he will do with Son, Kane Bissouma, Kulu

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  T M

I think he’ll do well, it will help pave the way to cash in on Sonny to Madrid next summer…

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

We didn’t cash in on Kane and (whisper it) I think Levy might value Sonny even higher than Kane.

Why? Where are we on pre season again? He’s going absolutely nowhere!

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Not yet, but we’ll see…

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

I see Kane and Son as cash cows for us at the club so selling them for anything less than a ridiculous offer makes little sense.

Those two are basically the face of the ‘football side’ of the club and hard to replace, and Son has probably turned a quarter of a million Koreans into Spurs fans.

Kane is Mr England and will be getting loads of kids in this country choosing Spurs and generally being a good egg.

TomSpur
TomSpur
1 month ago

Think Levy has been persuaded to allow some extra grease to ensure we didn’t get gazumped on Richarlison. Seem to have got a bargain with Bissouma. Gives them a bit of margin to overspend on Richarlison.

As for the player, I think he is a proven, versatile PL forward who should provide solid competition and make rotation a lot easier to keep Kane/Son/Kulu fresher.

Much less enamoured with our next two prospective signings. Lenglet is a defensive liability and not much better than Davies (thankfully we’re not buying him permanently). We also desperately need an athletic RWB who can also cross – not sure Spence fits the bill in that regard, although he seems an upgrade on Royale.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  TomSpur

What ‘extra’ grease? What’s the ‘margin’ even? We are making assumptions about ENIC’s spending power based on what? The fact we went 12 months without signing anyone not so long ago? We accept that our margins and budgets are well below most other teams in the top 10 based on what?

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SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

We’re spending too much or too little? – I need to know which to be angry about

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Ha ha.

Well, the bit to be angry about is what it’s spent on…

Cali
Cali
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Or not spending at all😂😂

TomSpur
TomSpur
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

I just mean for once we’ve probably gone significantly above our valuation of Richarlison to ensure we get him for Conte, as a trade-off for getting a bargain on Bissouma. Just an idea.

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  TomSpur

Chelsea would have taken him previous years yes, we had to pay top rate to get it dome and done in time

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
1 month ago
Reply to  SpursGoliath

Pre season will have most of our acquisitions available I assume this is important as commentators and pundits place so much on it .
This is good news .
Are we buying Spence ?

TomSpur
TomSpur
1 month ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Almost certainly, Levy just doesn’t want to get bent over for a youngster with no PL experience. But he’ll have to take a risk if he’s to have Spence in time for pre-season.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
1 month ago
Reply to  TomSpur

Im not sure Richarlison is overpriced ..you could argue Jesus is more of a gamble scoring in goals in a team which creates a huge number of chances .and now playing at AFC.
The proof is in the pudding of course but I just hope Richarlison gets a couple in early doors.

TomSpur
TomSpur
1 month ago
Reply to  Billy Tonsils

Agree with you re Jesus.

Interesting to see how Charlie fits in. Not an exact swap for Son on the left, as he plays v differently.

Billy Tonsils
Billy Tonsils
1 month ago
Reply to  TomSpur

Can play across play CL CF and CR ( I didn’t this someone posted that he played CR at Watford)..so can keep all our central forwards on their toes.

Urbane Sturgeon
Urbane Sturgeon
1 month ago

Conte is the man. Ricky the Tumbler will be improved beyond belief.

Gulp!

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

And they gave Jurgen grief for diving!! How the world has changed…

Adam
Adam
1 month ago

History shows us that buying players is nothing more than a lottery. John Lacey, Don McAllister (who I truly could not bear to watch) Nicola Berti, Helder Postiga and, worst of all, Alan Brazil have all flattered to deceive. Diamonds unearthed in Weymouth are very few and far between. I have never understood why a player can shine for one club but die a metaphorical death at another (yes I mean you Roberto Soldado) but such is football. I always take comfort in thinking that no matter how bad are purchases may be, there’s always Man U to laugh at.

Paul
Paul
1 month ago
Reply to  Adam

System! We have 2 right backs playing left wingback in a 343 system. You think that might help. Liverpool and City plays in a 433 system and their wingbacks still contribute to the offense. You will never see those 2 clubs left or right wingbacks playing ahead or as the term go provide the width because he play with wingers we don’t.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago

Great piece, this ‘weaponising’ of the debate on how the club spends money is beyond tiresome. No, we don’t expect the club to spend like Citeh, or even Liverpool and Utd for that matter. After all, we are nice little, well conditioned Spurs fans that know their place in the Premier League food-chain…

Levy has managed everyone’s expectations expertly, with the one League Cup win 14 years ago being the sky-scraping pinnacle of ENIC’s achievements on the pitch, at least trophy wise. The club have spent abysmally since their undermining of Pochettino, over two years before he left. Just money wasted on directionless and poorly scouted signings, Stevie B was probably the last example of this.

Richarlison has been confirmed, and with Conte and his pal Paratici working together we can at least hope that the manager has a cohesive plan of how to utilise the boy. This is Levy being prepared to help the ‘fixer’ manager, draughted in (under a probable level of duress) to repair all the wilful neglect and damage carried out. Just like Arry, after Ramos was given Bent and Pav to replace the most potent strike pairing in the league in Keane and Berbatov after he’s won the League Cup in 2008.

The most frustrating aspect to all this is that as soon as the team are operating at a level that has improved match day, sponsorship and marketing benefits then a version of the previous chaos will return. After 23 years, I am tired of being ‘played’ by ENIC, tired of the endless false dawns….

Happy that we have a quality manager in Conte, happy that he’s prepared to stick around and happy that he’s getting some players that should help him do his job better. However, there is a depressing familiarity about all of this being yet another fairly short ‘cycle’ that will inevitably end once Levy has achieved his aims. Which before anyone says it, does not include winning trophies. If it happens, then he’ll take it but it’s not his aim, because it was then he’s been an absolutely terrible shot, for 23 years…

Last edited 1 month ago by Easty
Paul
Paul
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Always read and admire your take. Am not sure Levy do not want to win trophies doing it his way. We have been to 3 or 4 finals, finish as high as third. Bluntly, had we have better quality our chances would have been greater. Not sure I agree with Levy’s intent, but certainly cannot argue the fact we have not won.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  Paul

Cheers Paul. Levy will of course take a trophy but if it’s his aim, are we suggesting that he’s just been ‘unlucky’ for 22 years?

Dirk
Dirk
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Great comment. I do hope it isn’t still groundhog day but this season will reveal if it’s part of the cycle.

coys1882
coys1882
1 month ago

There is little doubt H that our recruitment under the hapless Hitchin was abysmal. However now, after a mixed opening stanza from Paratici, the success of Romero and the outstanding acquisitions of Bentancur and Kulu have added a real sheen to his burgeoning reputation.

Perisic (on a free) and Bissouma are really top draw additions and despite over-paying for Richarlison, I believe it is an astute purchase in a position of need. Finally a real back-up for Kane, but this boy can cover all 3 forward positions, so brings essential depth of a high calibre.

Finally, I feel like we have a plan and a vision for the future. Paratici being the architect of the plan, in conjunction with Conte and Levy, for once, ‘stepping up to the plate’ and funding it. This is how a well run football club should operate and the palpable sense of optimism, ahead of the season, for once I don’t believe is misplaced.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  coys1882

Somebody explain why Hitchen was head of scouting for so long, did he demand less salary than someone better? The mind boggles…

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  coys1882

Yes, we certainly can be more optimistic than last summer!

However, this is a short term display of something cohesive taking place after the embarrassment of last summer. Let’s face it, things could not have gotten any worse and it was damaging to the club’s image. The blocking of Fonseca, Gatusso then Nuno out of desperation… and let’s not forget that this was after Paratici was in place.

I’m not as convinced by the whole ‘Don Paratici’ thing as some are. Perhaps he does his job better with someone like Antonio holding his hand? Because before Conte arrived he looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights to me…

Sure he signed Romero who he knew from Juventus, but Gollini, Royal etc?

Last edited 1 month ago by Easty
coys1882
coys1882
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

One has to hope, ES, it is not short-term, but rather the start of a new era of professionalism on the scouting and recruitment front. Certainly Paratici’s initial acquisitions were a mixed bag, but once he appeared to come to terms with the type of player required to be successful in the EPL, his success rate soared.

Obviously having worked with Antonio before is a great help, with regards to being on the same page. There is genuinely a chance, if we can end this window right, that this could go down as a defining transfer window in the history of the club, so let us hope we can finish the job.

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  coys1882

My feeling is that Paratici without Conte, is like a sat-nav with no gps signal…

SpursGoliath
SpursGoliath
1 month ago
Reply to  East Stand

Buying players without a manager in place was insanity

judge
judge
1 month ago

Why does it feel that your words are generally laced with a reluctance to accept “times they are a changin” .
They’re appears to be an obvious movement , to try to find success , in the hands of a Manager who seems to have the confidence of the board
Who knows , they may get it wrong and the signings we make may fail miserably ……. but I believe strongly in Conte’s strategy and I wish him well in his quest for success , I think you want the same despite your declared distrust of Levy . Ultimately everybody who uses this platform is a Spurs supporter , so lets support’em [ even when they sometimes get it wrong! ]

East Stand
East Stand
1 month ago
Reply to  judge

They’ve been getting it wrong for 23 years, it’s not really ‘sometimes’ is it….

Dancing barber
Dancing barber
1 month ago

Quite right Harry. Never knew who actually wanted some of the signings. Suppose we hopefully had gotten rid of a culprit.
But Richarlison I assume is agreed by Conte. Not his first choice but acceptable to ensure early availability.
I’m hopeful he can turn him into a top player. As for the price? It’s all crazy to me.

Sandro
Sandro
1 month ago

Recruitment, whilst never easy, has been poor, especially for a club that has been required to more carefully manage its money due to a stadium build. Having said that, I am sure we could trawl through the transfers of most clubs and find a lot of expensive duds.
The one thing I would like to think about the current transfer policy is that no one comes in without Conte’s approval, and I trust he knows what he wants.

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