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From What Ornstein Suggests, Levy And Kane Are On A Collision Course This Summer
By Harry Hotspur -

David Ornstein looks to be the only occasional Tottenham Hotspur commentator worth reading at The Athletic [£], whose offering elsewhere has deteriorated into a competition to see who can most out-Daily Mail the Daily Mail.

The latest titbit from Ornstein is that Manchester United feels that Tottenham’s valuation of Harry Kane is way off beam given the current downturn in football’s degenerate microclimate. This was something I alluded to in a recent piece on the current state of the market, and what clubs may want for a player is hardly the issue…

If Daniel Levy is braced not to sell to a domestic rival, that to me that is about as compelling as an angry 6-year-old telling their mother that they will never speak to them again and storming off to their room. I’ve no wish to see Harry leave Spurs, let alone be playing for another Premier League side, but the odds of Levy ‘ordering’ Kane to stay are nil, and the odds of Levy being able to control who Kane is sold to are only marginally higher.

What goes on behind closed doors, is one thing, but I would be stunned to see Kane with us next term if we are without Champions League football. Plus, for the record, I do not believe another freakish win of the League Cup will hold much sway with the 27-year-old.

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Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago

If he goes then go abroad.. Levys right not to sell him to a rival in the interest of the club.. Man City won the league in only 2nd or 3rd gear.. Giving them Kane would be disastrous. Giving Kane to any premier league club diminishes our chance of winning anything. I hope Baldy sticks to his guns.. Seriously weaken us while strengthening the competition.

Dan
Dan
9 months ago

I think our chances are already diminished but I get your point. Other clubs refuse to sell their stars to PL rivals for the same reason. Levy will take sentiment out of it I think. He won’t care if Kane wants to stay in the PL.

Last edited 9 months ago by danbram1
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Sir Alex repeatedly refused to sell to rivals.. Its a no brainer… He was happy to take Van Persie though wasn’t he… Buy from a rival, but never sell… Selling our best player to a rival diminishes our chances of all titles without a doubt.

Dan
Dan
9 months ago

According to Transfermarkt Kane is valued at £108m (Levy will want more) and Son is valued at £76.50m (Levy will want more). Who can afford these players?

PSG – Not with Neymar and Mbappe on the books (selling one is a solution but who can afford them?) I’d also argue that PSG’s problems lie at the other end of the pitch. Poch is sensible enough to know that.

Bayern – No. Bayern have said for years that they will not compete or enter bidding wars with other European Clubs. Hence why they have already wrapped up Upamecano and got him on a pre contract.

Real Madrid – Skint. Need Bale off their books so how can they bankroll a Kane transfer?

Barcelona – Also skint. Are haggling with Eric Garcia over his contract (free agent) so again, how can they bankroll Kane? Plus if Messi stays that’s a gargantuan contract to continue paying for a club that is heavily reliant on tourism, which has been non existent for over a year.

Any Italian Club – Don’t usually make blockbuster moves unless the player is passed their prime.

Man City – I think the only club who could possibly sign him but nobody knows if there is genuine interest and Levy isn’t keen to sell to a rival.

Any other suggestions?

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Top clubs will still spend money for players. Many would be interested in Kane. Everyone was saying Barca were skint before the last window yet they still spent 125 million odd.

Dan
Dan
9 months ago

Wrong.

Barcelona’s net spend last season was -£13m They sold a lot of players.

I think Haaland will be the only proper blockbuster transfer of the summer.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago
Reply to  Dan

I’m not wrong.. I know they sold a few, but they also brought a few in… They spent 107 mil, they sold 120 mil… They bough Pjanic from Juventus plus more.. Year before they bought Griezzman and De Jong… Their squad is 740 million worth… They are a top club and will continue to churn as always.. If you think that top clubs like Barca Real Bayern are suddenly going to stop trading, or start buying cheaper half price strikers like Vinicius then you’re wrong..

Dan
Dan
9 months ago

You can’t just say they’ll carry on buying. These clubs are not bottomless pits of money. They will need to sell to buy.

They bought Pjanic for less than they sold Arthur to Juve for. Yes. They spent 107, and sold 120…leaving -13m which is what I just said?

And Bayern have never bought big. They do one Leroy Sane type transfer every few years. That’s it.

Barcelona’s squad value is irrelevant. A lot of that is made up by players that came through the academy.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago
Reply to  Dan

There is no financial fair play.. Look at the Man City saga….. Look at Chelsea beginning of this season they were leading the way in the debt league owing a whopping 1.3 billion.. We were (only) 650 million down at the time… What did Abromovich do when 1.3billion in debt? He goes and spends hundreds of millions on the likes of Werner and Havarz and whoever else……. Most clubs generally sell to buy.. Barcas squad isn’t irrelevent when its worth 740mil. The top clubs are still top of the food chain.

Dan
Dan
9 months ago

Chelsea spent after a 2 window embargo so had funds to spare. (Which shows FFP is a thing because they enforced the embargo).

A value of £740m doesn’t mean they have any of that in the bank? Its not fluid. Its tied in assets, assets they wouldn’t likely sell.

My whole point is yes, clubs will have to sell to buy, my argument is that we aren’t going to see huge transfers – to fund Kane any club would need to sell 3 or 4 players – you then need other clubs to be able to buy those players and so on.

It is unlikely. Especially when Haaland is available and will be cheaper than Kane – in my opinion EITHER Kane or Haaland moves this summer.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Chelsea were 1.3 billion in debt. They didn’t have funds to spare, but like I said FFP doesn’t exist… Man City appealing their ban and succeeding proved this…… And of course Bayern are a top club they have always spent money on marquee signings year in year out…. Of course squads worth 750mil plus are assets. Of course they can sell to buy.. Of course clubs borrow money to ramp up more debt. Of course top players will still go to top clubs… You’re waffling horse💩.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
9 months ago

HK & Son both off this summer. Anyone who thinks otherwise. I’d like you to give me one plausible reason for them to stay. Because they love the club isn’t a reason….

Dan
Dan
9 months ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Who can buy them at the prices Levy wants?

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Watch Steven Gerrards interviews… When you win a title at your own club it means 100 times more…

Burgin
Burgin
9 months ago

Got to win one first though, not going to happen in kanes time at the club
Don’t mind being wrong though

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago
Reply to  Burgin

We have a final next month.. No easy task though.

Dan
Dan
9 months ago

But he didn’t?

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Wtf are you waffling now? Gerrard won multiple titles at Liverpool including the Champions league and a treble… Enough now,,, i cant keep replying to a dipstick.

he's got no left foot
he's got no left foot
9 months ago
denzil
denzil
9 months ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

they will only stay if Jose is sacked A.S.A P

Spursnutd
Spursnutd
9 months ago

It is obvious where this is going levy won’t deal with a rival the rest can’t afford him. Either madbid will get him at a knock down price or he will go to a rival at the end of the window leaving just enough time to sign heskey as a replacement.

Burgin
Burgin
9 months ago
Reply to  Spursnutd

Nice one
Don’t forget Fellani

Cabspur
Cabspur
9 months ago

Spot on .
I wish him luck wherever he goes .
Levy will never replace him with like for like ,so midtable for us next year regardless of manager .

BaleUsOut
BaleUsOut
9 months ago
Reply to  Cabspur

If Mourinho is still in charge and Kane leaves, we will be in a relegation battle.

Watch this space!

East Stand
East Stand
9 months ago

It’s hard to see where we’re headed right now. The last manager had his faults but for the first four seasons st the very least it felt like we had direction and purpose.

The fact a manager was actually able to cultivate this in the environment of ENIC’s penny pinching made it even more remarkable.

East Stand
East Stand
9 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

Kane definitely off this summer, Levy has probably lied to him about his ambitions on the pitch to keep him sweet for the last several years. By the age of 27 he’s probably run out of faith…

Dan
Dan
9 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

Agree with the lack of direction. I just can’t see Kane leaving, not because he doesn’t want to or because I don’t think he deserves to. I just can’t see where he goes?

No club has made any noises about signing him, Levy is notoriously difficult to deal with and he won’t sell a player with 3 years left on his deal for anything less than what he believes he is worth. Add to that the shrinking number of clubs that can afford him and I think the boy is stuck.

I expect a silent summer from Kane (in the background his agent will be scurrying to find a buyer) and then in later August when all hope of a move looks lost he will publicly come out and see he loves the club and is staying.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
9 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Wrong… If Kane wants out then there will be no shortage of takers… England Captain, world class striker… This isn’t Tintin we’re talking about here.

Dan
Dan
9 months ago

As with all things. Time will tell.

I personally don’t think he will leave – not based on emotion because I think he deserves to go to be honest. I just logically can’t see where he will go and aside from people on here saying “yeah, someone will buy him” nobody has offered any logical or financial evidence to back up that anyone can afford him.

Limerick AL.
Limerick AL.
9 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Dan, other clubs don’t make noises they just do it. Spurs on the other hand………..

Dan
Dan
9 months ago
Reply to  Limerick AL.

Other clubs do make noises. They all make noises.

Haaland’s agent very publicly went to Barca and Madrid last weekend? Is that not making noises?

Chelsea make huge noises. City do as well, Utd.

You NEVER see a transfer go through and think “I had no idea that was going to happen”

Nobody is talking about signing Kane.

Limerick AL.
Limerick AL.
9 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Citeh will sign him, they do their talking on the Pitch. Clubs are using the Poor Mouth Mantra, it will keep Harry’s price down. Spurs couldn’t sign Alfie Noakes without it turning into an Act Of Parliament.

Burgin
Burgin
9 months ago
Reply to  East Stand

Absolutely
It is now really coming to light what a fantastic job he did with limited funds, backing and nearly 2 seasons at Wembley

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