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‘Daniel Levy is doing a good job and that should be recognized’ – Rebuttal

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Our man Finn nails it

I have long noted that Daniel Levy’s performance as a businessman is pretty top-notch and as a businessman, he is indeed doing a good job. However, as a Football Club chairman, I don’t think so.

He might be able to barbecue a decent burger or paint his bathroom to a seriously good standard, but that is not what we are looking at when we say the Chairman/Board are doing a good job – what we are concerned about is that he is doing a good job as a football club chairman.

He’s not!

To illustrate with a metaphor, he’s like a restaurant owner whose bought into a premise at the top end of town, the furniture, décor, menus, wait staff are all great – you can even buy merchandise to show you are a patron of this uptown establishment. However, the more of a patron you are the more you see what goes on in the kitchen and the less satisfied with the dining experience you become.

This restaurant, let call it THFC, has turned over so many chefs its embarrassing and a major part of the problem is that the chef is asked to meet cordon bleu standards but the meat and fish and vegetables are always bought on the cheap. Supplies are quick sale items or just about to pass their use-by date, fruit with blemishes, fish with cloudy eyes, and meat with too much of a sheen.

Add to this that on occasions no new fresh food is bought and the chef has to labour on with yesterdays or last week’s leftovers, which have to be used first.

Luckily the Restaurateur has a very loyal clientele: not to him but to the THFC brand. The eating experience deteriorates and eventually, the regulars grumble loudly so the restaurateur sacks the chef as if it was the chef to blame – not his skinflint penny-pinching attitude.

Is he a good businessman? He minimizes outgoing and keeps the prices on the menu high and is profitable, cleverly managing the overheads including the cost of the premises….so Yes.

Is he a good restaurateur? He has all the trimmings, but a restaurant is about the food and chefs can only do so much to present poor food as gourmet…. So No.

The fact that his benefactor is a lesser multi-billionaire means what? Lewis can’t be that far from a trip to the celestial plane and he can’t take it with him. However, there are seldom calls for Lewis to dip into his own trousers, just be prepared to underwrite what should be/should have been, predominantly good pieces of business providing our current and last manager with the people (fresh produce) they need to meet their objectives.

Levy has been serially at fault – what other common denominator can you suggest for so much failure. We change the managers, we (too infrequently) change the players, we change the scouts, we change the ground, we change the training facilities – but we don’t change the chairman –anyone else seeing a pattern emerge here?

As noted at the start, Levy has set the business side of the club up very well – I am not worried about the debt; it is a structured debt on a capital overhead, well within our reach to service and tax-deductible methinks. But he has not extended that business verve to the pitch.

No matter how close we get, we end up having failed and many think myself included, that this is due to Levy’s parsimony and inability to prioritise the ends over the means – haggling for better prices over 2 months trumps getting what we want and need to succeed.

Levy is doing a good job? Yes in some spheres but NO not in a football club.

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Tappaspur
Tappaspur
3 years ago
Reply to  East Stand

I don’t expect my comments to make sense to you or people like you. Focusing on the pasts negatives is not healthy. I choose to look to the positive future. (Better for ya.

Last edited 3 years ago by Tappaspur
Tappaspur
Tappaspur
3 years ago
Reply to  East Stand

Carrying resentments are not good for ones mental health. Grudge holders become bitter when old. Look what’s happened to you. ENIC have proper done a job on ya.

East Stand
East Stand
3 years ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Rather than action-less and happy with over 22 years of failure…

East Stand
East Stand
3 years ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

i have no idea what point you are trying to make. Nobody’s not supporting the club because they aren’t happy with the way it’s being run.

You’re just making stuff up, yeah support the club but not support the owners. What’s so hard to understand about that for you. Embarrassing and weak? What is? None of your comment makes any sense whatsoever.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
3 years ago

YIDZ

Sandro
Sandro
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

It’s a good analogy bar one thing – a restaurant you visit isn’t in your blood, your DNA, your heart. If you don’t like the one you just visited you can always go to another a few doors away next week, you can’t do that when a team is part of you. Levy knows that he will have plenty of customers for years to come.

Sandro
Sandro
3 years ago
Reply to  Marbella Spur

1981-2001 (February ENIC took over) 7 Cup Finals & No League Titles

2001-2021 6 Cup Finals & No League Titles + World class training ground and stadium built.

Were the 20 years pre ENIC as wonderful as we like to make out?

Not defending them, just presenting the facts.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
3 years ago
Reply to  Ginger doc

And the action-less moaners are still moaning

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
3 years ago

We’re gonna wolf down a burger later mate🌚

Slacky
Slacky
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Agreed, compared to our situation now, I’d have some of that again! Imagine though if he’d decided at that time, right, I am going to give Poch 3 or 4 players that will genuinely make us contenders for the league. Who knows where we might be now?!

eddie
eddie
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Absolutely.
The downside is the ar*e beat us into 3rd when it was ours to throw away.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 years ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

This is one cup I would be well happy to win.. We can save our season by lifting the ropey.

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 years ago
Reply to  Kevin

Our squad is no way good enough.. We have a handful of players good enough, and had injuries and had to rest some of them and look what’s happened..

Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
Steve 'Killer Cushion' Williams
3 years ago

Levy needs to sort Hitchen out. Our scouting and transfers is the reason the quality of football is poor. Get a proper sporting director in…. I thought it’s Botch who can cook a decent burger with his magic barbie, has Levy got one too?

Ginger doc
Ginger doc
3 years ago
Reply to  John

Joe Lewis due to meet Joe Black this year

Alex
Alex
3 years ago
Reply to  eddie

I remember that season. God at least we competed and played great football. Third was actually our highest placing for around thirty years so even that was an improvement. Agreed we should have kicked on but I’d swap that season for this in a heartbeat. You?

Ginger doc
Ginger doc
3 years ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

The duped fan projecting his programming again

Alex
Alex
3 years ago

It is a good analogy. You can have the a beautiful restaurant with great decor but if the food is rubbish and expensive you won’t get customers

Elevenstonedidiots
Elevenstonedidiots
3 years ago

Love the restaurant analogy. The Spurs squad does have prime aged rib eye steak but unfortunately it gets served with frozen peas and oven chips

England Mike
England Mike
3 years ago
Reply to  CowSpurs

The winning of trophies for the football club will be as elusive as ever, the qualification of CL is the ultimate achievement each season purely based on revenue gained, there is simply no other agenda.

eddie
eddie
3 years ago
Reply to  Slacky

Finishing third,would that be when we finished third in a two horse race?

Marbella Spur
Marbella Spur
3 years ago

I am amazed that any Spurs fan thinks that Levy has done a good job for the club. He has enriched himself and JL at the expense of the club’s onfield success. Every year, he spouts the same bullsh** about how we have to operate in a different way to other clubs, how we have to buy before we sell, that we cannot compete with the other clubs but that there will be money available for the manager and then doesn’t buy a player for two transfer windows. Due to his cretinous insistence on interfering in our transfer market dealings by not only never providing the manager with the players he wants but by buying the ones he feels might have a good sell on value which seldom materialises, the club is hamstrung from really going forward. Until either Enic sells up, which looks unlikely in the current atmosphere or Lewis sacks him, we will continue to flatline.

England Mike
England Mike
3 years ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

Double cheese with mine.

Sandro
Sandro
3 years ago

Levy’s plan for THFC was a long term one, put the infrastructure in place that will enable us to compete financially with the big boys, and it has not had a chance to play out due to the pandemic. Time will tell if it plays out as he has led us to believe.
The transfer strategy during the infrastructure rebuild is where he has failed miserably. Buying players based on profile / price rather than the ones the manager actually wants is the mistake. Getting the guy who is number 4 or 5 on the list because the ‘deal’ is better and losing out due to last minute penny pinching has cost us dearly. Imagine if we had bought Bruno Fernandes instead of GLC.

Selsey Bill
Selsey Bill
3 years ago
Reply to  Dexter

Have we missed the boat Dex?

Dexter
Dexter
3 years ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

It’s all well and good talking about ENIC selling up to rich new owners, and I’d love to see it. If only it were that simple.
Ask Mike Ashley.

Kevin
Kevin
3 years ago
Reply to  LIMERICK AL

Mourinho needs to earn his coin and prove his worth . We have good enough players – use them wisely

LIMERICK AL
LIMERICK AL
3 years ago
Reply to  CowSpurs

And The Arsenal!!!!!!

CowSpurs
CowSpurs
3 years ago
Reply to  Kevin

Only AC Milan, Roma, Napoli, Man Utd and Leicester, to name a few who are in our way!

Kevin
Kevin
3 years ago

Only levy’s boss knows if he is doing a good job .
objectives/ targets etc….

on the field , if we don’t win a trophy this season – I would imagine it’s a fail .
we have a very expensive Coach who needs to deliver.

he faces another ‘winner’ on the weekend in David Moyes . Hope he can ‘ out wit’ questionable the worse run club in the premier league.

Or not.

COYS – I think we will win the Europa league .

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
3 years ago

And you have? All you know is the crap you read on the internet. I talk to people (you’d be surprised who you meet in HMP who do have a “clue.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 years ago
Reply to  Tappaspur

You haven’t a clue

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
3 years ago

Yep. Boris loves no money coming in. Struth

Last edited 3 years ago by Tappaspur
JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
3 years ago
Reply to  John

When Nagelsmann comes in then back on the Merry go round

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
3 years ago
Reply to  East Stand

Get behind the club. Joe levy and José ain’t bigger than TOTTENHAM. Stop trying to make out that they are. It’s embarrassing and weak.

CowSpurs
CowSpurs
3 years ago

Very well put, but there was no debate to be had. He is an awful ‘football’ chairman and for me, the jury is still out to see whether he is a good businessman.

I genuinely believe Levy wants us to be like an American sporting franchise. All the glitz, glamour and razzmatazz without a ‘need’ for success. The biggest, most profitable sports brand in the world is the Dallas Cowboys, yet they haven’t seen a Superbowl this century. The caveat is the Cowboys will always have a seat at the top table, they are guaranteed 15 high profile games a season. We do not have this luxury.

We will struggle to get into the top 4 for the foreseeable future, harming the Spurs brand because it really is Champions League or bust to an extent. How can a brand consistently grow without playing the top European teams? The EPL will continue to turn over massive revenue streams, but all it takes is Utd, Liverpool, City and Chelsea to form their own deals or move in to a European Super League and Spurs are doomed if they are not on their coat tails. Who in the globalised football community cares about Man City v Spurs if we are fifth, let alone ninth?

Levy has gambled here, he put £100m into the NFL pitch alone, but it could hit him right in his face if the EPL finance model changes. We as fans will be the losers though, not him.

Tappaspur
Tappaspur
3 years ago

Wolfsberger. Tottenham coming for you. YID ARRRRRRRMY.

Slacky
Slacky
3 years ago

Absolutely agree. Poch and Jose hamstrung by the same misguided approach from the chairman to the football club’s success. Levy seems to define the “success” of THFC very differently to 99% of the fanbase.
What really grates to me, is those fans who say we’ve never had it so good (“the stadium”, “consistent CL participation”, “CL final”) and that we should be grateful to Levy! WTF! Can you see City, Utd or Liverpool fans being content with those things.
The bottom line when you are a football club, is to win trophies. If that is not your aim then what’s the point?! And as has been said before, success on the pitch surely breeds success reputationally and commercially, all of which leads to £££.
I read some twaddle online yesterday where some season ticket holders had been surveyed and quotes like “I don’t blame Levy but the squad has been left to drift.” So who the f*** do you blame then?!
When we took that next step (finishing 3rd a few seasons back and then 2nd), we should have bought players to consolidate and solidify our budding success. Instead, we did no business. Even now when we need a Dias, a Skriniar, a statement defence signing, we are being linked to Villa youngsters. FFS. And the cycle continues.
No, Daniel Levy is NOT a good FC chairman, not at all and the proof is in the trophy cabinet. Spare me the “Levy masterclass”, “Don Levy” crap spouted by 5 year olds on social media.

Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 years ago

So I see the predictability factor has shown to be the same. Johnson wants under 1000 cases a day to end lockdown, which with PCR is never happening(which he knows), and apparently he talked about “moving through the tiers”. Exactly what I expected, back to tiers. So there you go…..either people stop consenting en masse or this is it now. Most of the north of England and Midlands have been shut for a year now, except that brief may to June break. Old Pub at the end of my road gone bust. It’s a wonder anyone’s survived.

Last edited 3 years ago by Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
3 years ago
Reply to  Limerick AL

Ain’t that the truth.

Limerick AL
Limerick AL
3 years ago

“Its far easier to fool someone, then to convince them that they have been fooled”. Dan The Man Levy 2018.

East Stand
East Stand
3 years ago

Levy’s business model cannot function without duping the fans. There had to be a constant promise of future success to excuse the lack of it in the present.

This has been going on for 22 years, if the penny hasn’t dropped yet then you must have left part of your brain in your bottom filling pint glass. You are a mug.

CzechSpur
CzechSpur
3 years ago

Indeed. We have had poor player recruitment and a flaky loser mentality for years, with the only current upside being “not doing a Leeds”, while even in my short time as a Spurs fan, Fulham made it to the EL final, Wigan, Birmingham and Swansea won a cup, and Leicester won the league.

At the same time, we’re saddled with outstanding debt, haven’t won a thing since 2008, and the squad has been neglected to the point it will probably take another two summers just to make it competitive in any way.

And make no mistake – that time when we didn’t sign anyone wasn’t just stagnation, it was regression. We voluntarily took backwards steps while other teams caught up and passed us by. So now it’s us who’s playing catch up, but I don’t imagine City, Chelsea etc. will be as accommodating as we were then. The word “sabotage” springs to mind.

But the worst thing of all is that we have stumbled upon a generational talent in Harry Kane but we never pushed on, taking a risk and surrounding him with more top talent. If supported with proper players, Kane would be the catalyst for a decadeful of trophies. Instead, we never bought a viable alternative and continue to overplay him to the point where he always gets injured and wins nothing for his troubles.

Has the penny dropped for Levy and will he do what must be done come the summer? Maybe. I certainly hope so. But the damage, in many ways, has already been done.

John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  JimmyGrievance

Agreed but here is where we are: Nothing is going to change whilst JL & DL are at the club. Therefore we need to wait for either the club to be sold or JL to die. I do wonder what JL’s motive is – to make money from the sale of the club or does he have a genuine interest in a successful team? If he’s as rich as they say he is, he’s got that kind of money by not spending it.

Where that leaves DL when that happens, is anybody’s guess. Presumably, the club will be sold to the highest bidder & we’ll get a new Chairman. New owners, probably Saudi-based, new Chairman & hopefully a lot more cash input for the team.

Continued progress/success will attract the better players (City/L’pool) but you still need someone to make them gel as a team, which is where Jose came in. He’s won at least one trophy at every club he’s been at (maybe even sacked by every club he’s been at?!) & I think he’ll be gone even if we win something this season & Nagelsmann will arrive.

JimmyGrievance
JimmyGrievance
3 years ago

Sums up nicely where we are with these charlatans

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