Date: 13th November 2017 at 10:57am
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The boy Dier is a real puzzler for me. Whilst he’s happy to be either in defence or midfield, I’d have to ask the question ‘who cares, where does he play best?’

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Is Dier going ever going to keep a fit player out of the backline or the midfield? The answer is not just ‘no’, but the question answers what Doer does – something I’ve been struggling with for some time.

He’s an understudy. Having made that mental breakthrough ladies and gentlemen, I’m going to view him in this new light. Is Dier winning friends on the international stage? Dunno, don’t care. But he seems happy enough.

 
Comments
  • LingLongMan 🚯 November 13, 2017 at 10:59 pm

    He’s better in the backline, as the last couple of game showed. Well, after the Utd game anyway.

  • ronwol196061πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ November 13, 2017 at 5:43 pm

    Yiddo
    As I said, I’m a fan. He is very important to our team.
    I do however maintain that he could have been one of the best players in the world, but has not done enough to be seen as such.
    A wonderful player who has failed to live up to my admittedly high expectations

    There are three main ingredients to be great st footie.

    1. Talent and Discipline (self and learned)

    2. Creativity. Think in the moment and react. Create.

    3. Desire

    Number 2 is interesting as Dembele can create in the small picture but seeing the big picture is huge for a CM but Dembele hss never shown that.He has everything else though!

    • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 5:51 pm

      Hey Ron, you sure he has number 3? He openly admits that he is not a fan of the beautiful game…
      I love him and I can’t help but imagine how ice cool a love child of him and Berbatov’s would be, but I think he’s one of the most overrated “he’s so underrated” footballers in the PL.
      Still think he’s by far our best cm and is currently indispensable.
      I’d love to see our win ratio with and without him.

      • ronwol196061πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ November 13, 2017 at 5:54 pm

        Absolutely,he may not think beautiful like some other visionary midfielders but you can see he puts every ounce of desire into his play…I would say as much as Kane and maybe Son…that play with their heart and soul

    • ronwol196061πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ November 13, 2017 at 5:58 pm

      Overated only in vision and even in that he can see space but mostly in tbe area.
      We have very fee players though that have the big vision to create from nothing and so it creates something tangable. Eriksen may have but his fear,not feet,get in the way

  • OrganicPaper November 13, 2017 at 5:04 pm

    Dier is a fantastic asset to our team. Some level the criticism that he is a jack of all trades, master of none. However to do so misses the point of Dier completely. He is very assured in a number of positions. This versatility alone makes him a very valuable bloke to have around. He has a good head on his shoulders, a good attitude and work ethic. Fair enough he has had some off games but lets not forget he is still only 23.
    As someone who plays in defensive positions, he still has a heck of a lot of maturing to do and if he keeps up this level, he will be a world class player

    • caveman November 13, 2017 at 5:17 pm

      100%

    • Urbane Sturgeon November 13, 2017 at 11:33 pm

      Not sure about world class but aside from that; +1

  • Ufluckinplic November 13, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    Personally a big fan of Dier. Having a player that can play multiple positions is a huge plus and a great attitude.

  • Hartley November 13, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    I would pick Wanyama ahead of Dier every day of the week except the days the first team are playing

    • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 1:49 pm

      The voice of reason. Thanks Hartley

      • UnkleTaff November 13, 2017 at 1:50 pm

        Er, have another read of that, mate…

  • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 1:31 pm

    UnkleTaff
    Ross Barkley reminds me a lot of Paul Gascoigne in the way he plays. I’m not saying he’s as good, obviously, but under Pochettino I think Barkley could be a world class player.
    I can’t wait to see him in a Lilywhite shirt.

    Agreed. If you mean Gascoigne 2017.

    • Hartley November 13, 2017 at 1:44 pm

      I see him more as a thick, Bamber Gascoigne.

  • Horndog πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ November 13, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    Dier is integral to Spurs. We pulled off a coup when we signed him from Sporting. Not only versatile but rarely injured. Hard nosed.

  • mattspurs November 13, 2017 at 1:11 pm

    Dier allowed us to develop the use of alternate 2 and 3 centre back systems – freeing up our fullbacks to become the best in the league.
    He’s always fit – that’s why he plays. 99 games over the last 2 seasons. He’s missed 3 PL games over two seasons.

    Dembele is only good for 75% of games in a season and is generally the first player to be subbed off if he starts.
    Toby missed 10 PL games last season
    Wanyama has missed 10 PL games this season
    Jan has missed 15 games over the last 2 seasons

    Despite those injuries we’ve done OK thanks to Dier’s adaptability – some might even say we’ve done well.

  • Superspoz πŸ† November 13, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    Players like Dier are like gold dust. Just needs to sort out couple of vertebraes out in his neck. He’s always looking down.

    • Caspurs♿️ November 13, 2017 at 1:13 pm

      He duzzit because he suffers from vertigo.

      • Superspoz πŸ† November 13, 2017 at 1:30 pm

        More proof that being short is better than being tall. Facts are facts.

        • Caspurs♿️ November 13, 2017 at 1:44 pm

          I think 5′ 10″ is just about right.

        • MysteriousStranger November 13, 2017 at 1:47 pm

          Yeah, agreed. Hurts my deck looking down at people. I need Horndog to come over to blighty more often just so I can do more looking up.

          • Horndog πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ November 13, 2017 at 2:06 pm

            Anxious to make that happen, MS. Next season.

            • MysteriousStranger November 13, 2017 at 2:19 pm

              Sweet! πŸ‘πŸ»

        • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 1:48 pm
          • Superspoz πŸ† November 13, 2017 at 2:05 pm

  • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹ November 13, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    Dammit. Is there a game tonight and is Nilly going along with his kids?

    I s’pose *that* was back in August, too.

  • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹ November 13, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    gloster1861
    I think HD and the Gav had their birthdays just after mine at the beginning of August.

    Jeepers. What about Dilly? It must be his birthday then.

  • SpurAndy πŸ’Ο€ November 13, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    Dier, Dembele, Afit Lamela, Rose, Hugo, Llorente, Eriksen, Son are all assets to the club and are all to a lesser or greater degree responsible for our improvement over the last few years. I wouldn’t get rid of any if them at the moment

    • VincentianMagic November 13, 2017 at 12:41 pm

      Agreed, but I’d sell Llorente the moment a better player comes along and – more importantly – I suited to our system.

      • VincentianMagic November 13, 2017 at 12:42 pm

        is suited*

    • Panama Paul November 13, 2017 at 2:25 pm

      Afit Lamela?

      So his “conversion” was actually to Islam?

  • Andrew November 13, 2017 at 12:35 pm

    No one seems to notice the recent change in systems and trends. (Except Poch!) A few years ago, particularly after Makelele, a holding midfielder became integral to a team’s success. Before that, remember we used to do things like stick Gerrard and Lampard in the middle together.

    Even when Poch first joined, we were held back by a lack of a DM – neither Bentaleb nor Mason were really holding midfielders. Nor were they really good enough footballers! But moving Dier to midfield marked a huge upward curve for us. And signing Wanyama really took us to the next level.

    But in some of our biggest games this season, Poch has bucked the DM trend, opting to play Dier at CB where I (and he) believe he plays best. I think he has the ability to be England’s best CB – and he’ll hopefully be playing for Spurs with Sanchez, Foyth and CCV for years to come.

    In recent weeks we’ve had Winks and Sissoko in the middle – and beaten Madrid and Liverpool. I’m really looking forward to a midfield pairing of Winks and Dembele – I think we’d be unstoppable. Winks and Dembele both get stuck in enough to not need a typical holding midfielder who blunts our creativity breaking down smaller sides.

    I’ve been really impressed with Davinson since he arrived, but such is my belief in Dier as a CB that I’d opt for Toby, Verts and Dier as the three at the back and Winks/Demb ahead of them.

    • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:40 pm

      Dier ahead of Sanchez?!! You’re deluded mate. I say that with the greatest of non respect.

      • Andrew November 13, 2017 at 1:21 pm

        Dier is streets ahead in terms of composure and ability on the ball. We all like to get excited about expensive new imports – and Sanchez has played well and will probably be immense in years to come…but he’s also been noticeably shaky on the ball, as has been noticed by many pundits and Jose Mourinho (the man who so admires Dier)!

        • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 1:29 pm

          Let’s trust Mourinho, he did sign Lindeloff after all.

          • Andrew November 13, 2017 at 1:43 pm

            I’m just saying I’m not the only one able to look beyond the excitement, the price tag, the big foreign name…to see that yes he has been good at defending – but no, he is not yet at the level of Dier and certainly not Toby or Jan. He’s been shielded by the two best CBs in our recent history and has still managed to fluff his lines once or twice per game – but he’s got better with every game, so I have every faith he’ll be a top player by next season.

            • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 1:53 pm

              The first person to rate Dier as “streets ahead of Sanchez that I’ve come across. If everyone around you seems crazy, maybe you’re the crazy one

    • mattspurs November 13, 2017 at 1:00 pm

      Think Sanchez has been rested rather than dropped

  • Christopher November 13, 2017 at 12:30 pm

    Dier is an unbelievable player. Amazing on the ball. Uses it well and plays with it well. He can also play several different positions and is worth his weight in gold. Poch k owns it and England know it. Anyone who says sell him really is an a**e.
    Yeah, let’s sell an England international that plays in several different positions. That will help the squad. He was also the standout player in the United match and played brilliantly against Real.

    • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:32 pm

      Guess I’m a fucking a**e

      • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹ November 13, 2017 at 12:46 pm

        That was unecessary.

        • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:50 pm

          Vitriol does what vitriol does best

          • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹ November 13, 2017 at 12:55 pm

            No. I meant you didn’t have to tell us you were a f*cking a*se – we knew already … πŸ’₯BoomπŸ’₯

            • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 1:10 pm

              Hoisted by my own petard!

              • Aussie in Switzerland November 13, 2017 at 2:09 pm

                Jean Luc Petard

    • UnkleTaff November 13, 2017 at 12:32 pm

      Yeah, but apart from all that, what has Eric Dier actually done for us?

    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹ November 13, 2017 at 12:46 pm

      πŸ‘

  • VincentianMagic November 13, 2017 at 12:27 pm

    IMO Dier is an important squad member. When everyone is fit he isn’t a first choice CB or DM – however, he is more than useful in either position.

    If we buy Barkley (or similar) he will no doubt have to make do as a CB as Dembele, Wanyama and Winks are ahead of him at the mo.

    If fit, and on his game, Barkely is a better CM for sure.

    My concern is why we purchased Llorente? Nothing against him but he’s going the way of Soldado and Jansen. He just doesn’t suit our style of play.

    If we can tinker a little with the squad in the next two windows I’d like to see Jansen and N’Koundo moved on and replaced with (for example) Dembele and Saha. Add Barkley (maybe on a free at the end of the season) and our squad is pretty strong.

    I know, I’ve digressed….

    • UnkleTaff November 13, 2017 at 12:30 pm

      According to The Telegraph Pochettino is looking to pair Dier with Barkley in the centre of our midfield.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/04/tottenham-plan-january-move-ross-barkley-transfer-could-do/

      I’d certainly welcome that approach if true.

      • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:31 pm

        I wouldn’t…

      • ronwol196061πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ November 13, 2017 at 12:35 pm

        Nothng wrong with that. I tjink we lack a flow through to the last third and Barkley could give us that
        Dembele doesnt have that creative gene.
        Barkley may well have but I think he usnt on par with some of the Euros

        • UnkleTaff November 13, 2017 at 12:37 pm

          Ross Barkley reminds me a lot of Paul Gascoigne in the way he plays. I’m not saying he’s as good, obviously, but under Pochettino I think Barkley could be a world class player.

          I can’t wait to see him in a Lilywhite shirt.

          • VincentianMagic November 13, 2017 at 12:39 pm

            I think if he gets back playing and is fully fit, and wants to join us, it’s a no-brainer. He’ll give us options in CM, more creativity, and will cots peanuts/nothing.

          • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹ November 13, 2017 at 12:48 pm

            … and nothing else …

            • UnkleTaff November 13, 2017 at 12:57 pm

    • VincentianMagic November 13, 2017 at 12:34 pm

      I’ve mentioned Celtic’s Dembele and Saha as, although not world class, they are both very good players and would not need any time to bed in to the PL conditions.

      Both are quick and can stretch defences which I believe is something we are not very good at; only Kane and Son seem to run the channels.

      Similarly, Barkley has good pace and can beat a man and create – something that we lack when Eriksen is absent/off-colour.

      I also believe that we could afford them and they are realistic targets.

      In another world I’d have Isco, De Bruyne and Aguero, but that ain’t gonna happen.

      • mattspurs November 13, 2017 at 1:01 pm

        Saha was too old when he joined us the first time

  • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    I’m a fan of Dembele. However. He doesn’t do nearly enough to warrant the praise he receives. Every player who has played with him or against him has lauded him as the very best.
    For me he has failed to live up to expectations.

    • UnkleTaff November 13, 2017 at 12:26 pm

      Ron, mate … you’re not going to let him get away with this, are you?

      πŸ˜‰

      • ronwol196061πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ November 13, 2017 at 12:28 pm

        You are!!!

    • UnkleTaff November 13, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      Dembele should be inducted into the THFC Hall of Fame simply for kicking the odious Sergio Ramos all over the park the other night.

      • Horndog πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ November 13, 2017 at 12:33 pm

        Ka-pow πŸ’₯

      • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:34 pm

        It was lovely to watch, but for me a player needs to do more than that to receive awards. He is often suspect of slowing down our play, and with the incredible technical skill and strength he has, he should be capable of so much more.

    • ronwol196061πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ November 13, 2017 at 12:32 pm

      Yiddo,Dembeles vision is not big picture but he is an outstanding CM for his power,his ball control and his fight. We do need the next level CM but your fucking disrespect for this player who has been a fantastic source of control for us us astounding.

      • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:37 pm

        As I said, I’m a fan. He is very important to our team.
        I do however maintain that he could have been one of the best players in the world, but has not done enough to be seen as such.
        A wonderful player who has failed to live up to my admittedly high expectations

        • Spiderneil November 13, 2017 at 3:31 pm

          Dembele is our magic man ❀️

  • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:14 pm

    Nothing wrong with Dier. He’s only the weakest player in our first eleven and a defensive liability.
    He works hard but we should have taken United’s money and run.
    His status amongst the pundits and fans defies belief.

    • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 12:16 pm

      Yiddo he is a weaker CB but he is a very good DM.Has an eye for a pass too

      • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:20 pm

        *Thinks he has an eye for a pass. Someone needs to gently tell him that he isn’t Pirlo.
        He’s a good defensive midfielder… if you pit him against an injured BDV.

        • ronwol196061πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ November 13, 2017 at 12:27 pm

          I can assure uou he doesnt think he is Pirlo

    • caveman November 13, 2017 at 12:20 pm

      Disagree. He will be our captain and no mistake.

      • Yiddo November 13, 2017 at 12:23 pm

        Thank goodness our manager makes the decisions and not a troglodyte…

    • Limerick AL. November 13, 2017 at 12:21 pm

      Spot On.

  • Sid Trotter November 13, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    Dier is our engine, and makes up for a lack of guile with tenacity. If he’s fit he should play

    • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 12:11 pm

      He will Sid because his competitor for the role is Wanyama and I think he is still injured

  • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 12:06 pm

    As much as Id like to see a next generation CM,someone who can directly create and who is looking to win the game,I still like Dembele a lot. The guy takes the weight of the team on his back sometimes and gets stuck in. This with nimble footwork too. I just feel he doesnt have a bigger vision but what he has is great especially for the Arse game where it might get a bit edgy and where passion rules.And Dembele has both of those things along with his talent and his presence in midfield.

    • caveman November 13, 2017 at 12:21 pm

      And a knack of gouging out an eye or two!

  • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:50 am

    There is a lot of nuance in football,this is where Ronglish comes in. He is a great utility player in as he comprehends things that other people cant comprehend. His only problem is when someone is totally coherent,then he finds it a bit more challenging. Still full marks for effort what?

  • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:46 am

    The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹
    Just spent the last 20 mins posting comments on a blog from Aug 5. Don’t know the year. Spuds were playing Juventus. Was that this summer?

    YOu have moved into a time warp Spurts,take 2 teaspoons of tumeric and come back tommorow..er I mean yesterday

    • Spiderneil November 13, 2017 at 3:33 pm

      Probably is for people from Denmark

  • mattspurs November 13, 2017 at 11:29 am

    Given the constant injuries we’ve had over the past two seasons Spurs are very lucky to have someone who can step in and cover a number of positions – Dier’s best asset is allowing everybody else to carry on playing in their favourite position not only for a starting eleven but mid game.

    • UnkleTaff November 13, 2017 at 11:36 am

      He’s the most under-appreciated player in our entire squad. His excellent sense of positional awareness means that a lot of opposition attacks are nullified before they’ve even started. He’s also a very good passer of the ball.

      If it were up to me I’d make him captain.

      • UnkleTaff November 13, 2017 at 11:44 am

        …added to which both Mourinho and Guardiola are reported to be interested in him. That should be enough, in itself, to explain how important he is to our team.

      • mattspurs November 13, 2017 at 11:47 am

        I’d agree on the captaincy – think GK and Strikers aren’t the best candidates for captain.

  • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:21 am

    Nothing wrong with Dier and a lot right with him.
    Dier is not a centre back,not a wing back,not a striker and not a brother
    but he is a fine DM just in front of the back 3 or 4 or 5
    His competitor for the role is Wanyama who has been injured since the wheel but one thing I thing its safe to say…ok two things…is that as much as Wanyama is a fantastic DM…he also at times is a bit of a liability in terms of cards. Now you can fact check if you like but I would guess that per capita and fiscal rounding out aside I would say that Wanyama gets a lot more cards or at least look like he does (per Diem)

    • gloster1861 November 13, 2017 at 11:25 am

      Like Steve Perryman, Dier can play in midfield or defensively. A useful lad to have in the squad, and I’m sure Poch knows his value.

      • mattspurs November 13, 2017 at 11:29 am

        That’s exactly who I’d compare him to

      • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:30 am

        Dier is more than useful. When people say ‘useful’ ‘young’ ‘utility’ they usually mean mediocre. He actually does well at DM and has the ability to get up to the box at times and make something happen. Being a utility man doesnt hurt,or young or useful

  • gloster1861 November 13, 2017 at 11:20 am

    Every good team needs a quality utility player. And Eric is a very decent utility player. With our injury list, he’ll get plenty of game time.

    • Syd 😎 November 13, 2017 at 11:21 am

      Exactly. He’s a terrific defensive midfielder and he plays a great utility role

  • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹ November 13, 2017 at 11:14 am

    Happy birthday to the lads HD DD GV! Now there’s three faces only a mother could love.

    Have a great day y’all.

    • gloster1861 November 13, 2017 at 11:21 am

      I think HD and the Gav had their birthdays just after mine at the beginning of August.

      • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:23 am

        ffs what about me..I have mine in early July ffs

        • Syd 😎 November 13, 2017 at 11:23 am

          Mines in three weeks you bastard you better say Happy Birthday

          • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:27 am

            There is mines in Canada too….look do me a favour Syd…can you let me know a day in advance

            • Syd 😎 November 13, 2017 at 11:27 am

              Will do buddy

              • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:31 am

                ok what day is it?

                • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:33 am

                  Dont worry I found out,its Monday

                  • Syd 😎 November 13, 2017 at 11:36 am

                    3/12 let’s see if you remember my good man

                    • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:39 am

                      remember what,you havent told me yet

  • Spurs est_1882 November 13, 2017 at 11:12 am

    He is a great utility player – no utility player is ever first choice in any role, but play just about every week due to injuries. He will not be more unless he becomes selfish, picks a role and insists on playing there. I think he thinks he is a midfielder.

  • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹ November 13, 2017 at 11:08 am

    Just spent the last 20 mins posting comments on a blog from Aug 5. Don’t know the year. Spuds were playing Juventus. Was that this summer?

    • Syd 😎 November 13, 2017 at 11:09 am

      Maybe

    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty πŸ’‹ November 13, 2017 at 11:14 am

      *Spurs

    • Horndog πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ November 13, 2017 at 12:29 pm

      You were just reliving my birthday. Good job.

  • Syd 😎 November 13, 2017 at 11:08 am

    I must say and I’ve always said it I am worried when he plays in a Back 3. I think he is a good holding midfielder or defensive midfielder

  • Syd 😎 November 13, 2017 at 11:06 am

    A little bit of ronglish there

    • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:15 am

      Syd sorry mate but we have ruels. You cant even aettmpt Ronglish with out playing your $19.95

      • Syd 😎 November 13, 2017 at 11:22 am

        I wasn’t talking about me I was talking about the blog not actually written by me lol

        • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:25 am

          I gave Harry the carporate rate mate. He paid on volume. It was a good deal for em..I mean me but unfortunately the mail in England must be held up….I sent him the invoice in 2009

          • Syd 😎 November 13, 2017 at 11:27 am

            I’m sure I also paid. I’ll check my bank account

            • ronwol196061 November 13, 2017 at 11:32 am

              Thats great Syd Ill check my accounting team and see if I received anything that I didnt know about