Date: 14th September 2017 at 1:57pm
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The Guardian‘s Barney Ronay thinks we nicked it last night.

Spurs were ‘either lucky or vibrantly opportunistic’ as they beat the visitors by a margin of two goals. According to Mr Ronay, Harry Kane dragged us kicking and screaming to (a lucky) victory.

As an occasionally vehement critic of Spurs I really am struggling with the faint praise this game has induced in certain quarters.

I tell you what is vibrantly opportunistic Barney, anyone responding to your begging bowl at the footer of your piece.

You can’t use not having a pay wall as a means to demand loose change from your ever decreasing readership.

You think journalists ought to be paid by their readers? There isn’t a business model in the world based upon the word ‘ought’.

Another man who doesn’t understand what he’s looking at with Kane is the one time Everton deadbeat Phil Neville.

“He could have to leave Spurs to become that top, top, world-class Robert Lewandowski-type player. He needs to be challenging for Ballons d’Or. He needs to be challenging for Champions Leagues and if Spurs are always going to be that ‘nearly team’, eventually he will want to leave and join a Real Madrid or a Barcelona.

“There will always be a doubt about Harry Kane until he gets to that level.”

Quite how Phil whose career highlights you could fit on the back of a postage stamp with room to spare is in a position to assess Kane’s career is anyone’s guess.

Kane is improving all the time. To suggest otherwise is just plain daft.

 
Comments
  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?

  • Elevenstonedidiots September 14, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    Phil Neveille is a dickhead. I wanted to put my foot thro myTV the other week when he was on MOTD agreeing with the refs decision for giving Sterling a 2nd yellow card for celebrating his last kick of the game winner with the City fans. What a company man.

  • Harry Hotspur September 14, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    StuSpur

    In other news AVB has been making accusations that a rival team in China orchestrated car crashes to delay his team bus enroute to a game. Maybe Timmy was the sanest choice after all

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  • Hartley September 14, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    lazy first.

  • richspurs September 14, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    All ze naysayers can go lick zemselves clean. Pocho out tacticked zem. Kane said it well, whatever plan we started with didna work as we wanted to, so we sat back, absorbed ze press and hit on the counter attack, exploiting ze spaces behind ze defence.
    Zem Krauts thought we would do the same second half, but we surprised zem by attacking from the outset. Poor befuddled buggers couldna adjust, we didna allow zem to.
    Shallow pundits cannot believe this team is capable of adjusting in situ. MORE of the same pleeezzz.

  • oneday September 14, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    the ugly one

  • oneday September 14, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    the ugly one’s at the door darling, which one?

    • Horndog September 14, 2017 at 3:34 pm

      Spurts, as a pilot I can confirm the earth is not flat. There are lots of mountains and other nasty terrain features that disprove his theory. 😬

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      This is bollox. Everybody knows we live on the back of a giant turtle. What are these people like?

  • RecaroN17 September 14, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    A nice copper told me last night the Green Man will be for away fans for rest of the season though it was Spurs for Chelscum and Burnley.

    • Still Nil Nil September 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm

      It’s because it’s it’s the largest pub for a group of fans and end is closest to it.

      It’s easier to shop in foreign fans from the stations to that pub and thecaway end with minimum disruption.

      Fans from abroad follow more or less one route in and out.
      Fans from the prem will travel and arrive via numerous routes such as driving, rail and coach.

      • RecaroN17 September 14, 2017 at 3:14 pm

        Cheers Nilly was it you I spoke to?

        • 💋 September 14, 2017 at 3:35 pm

          Did the police officer you spoke to look like this?:

          • richspurs September 14, 2017 at 3:41 pm

            Nah. Thr officer was fully dressed.

            • RecaroN17 September 14, 2017 at 3:51 pm

              Are they wpc’s?

  • Moniker Levynsky September 14, 2017 at 2:49 pm

    Though there was a decent crowd out, why were there so many empty seats for this one?

    • Freund or Foe September 14, 2017 at 2:53 pm

      That was disappointing. Speshley as I tried to get better tickets, but finding 4 together wasn`t possible.
      I spent the first half in the wrong seat, my original order confirmation stated one seat, but then a follow up stated a different row and number.

  • StuSpur September 14, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    In other news AVB has been making accusations that a rival team in China orchestrated car crashes to delay his team bus enroute to a game. Maybe Timmy was the sanest choice after all

    • Frontwheel 2 September 14, 2017 at 2:47 pm

      You’re banned.

    • caveman September 14, 2017 at 2:47 pm

      Looks like he has a point there though. The crazy world of Chinese football.

      • StuSpur September 14, 2017 at 2:48 pm

        Part of me hopes it’s true

  • Frontwheel 2 September 14, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    They don’t like the idea of us becoming a footballing force,do they.T’will make it all the sweeter

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:44 pm

      ✔✔

  • caveman September 14, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    Perhaps Kane takes August off every year to give everyone else a chance?
    Hilarious!

  • StuSpur September 14, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    Sissoko through on goal at the end was a sight to behold. He looked legless, as though he was making a run after being on the pitch for 115mins

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:49 pm

      The header at Everton was a close 2nd. Classic off the shoulder number. What a waste of time and money.

  • Devonshirespur September 14, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    I was there last night and we were not lucky.

    As good going forwards as DB were, they were much worse at the back. In fact the reason they were so good up front is because their formation resembled a 3-0-6 formation. We struggled to cope with their mass ranks of attackers as many teams would but realised (especially after the break when Poch tinkered a bit) that if we stayed solid and were more quick and clinical with our breaks we would expose them and we did, time and time again.

    We won that game due to our tactics. Theirs were quite frankly crazy. I have never seen a team with so many players so far forward. At times their last man was 15 yards inside our half and the GK in the centre circle. Sons goal he was clean through in our own half!. Kane got put clean through from a throwing in our own half. They were so far up the pitch it was staggering.
    Bonkers tactics and if Poch had done this we would have been sat their in total disbelief.

    I thought once we got to grips with their tactics (2nd half) were put in a really good performance. Excellent defence in the face of full on attack from DB, and used the ball well to break. A different sort of tactic than we usually deploy but good to see we have it in our locker…probably useful vs Real & DB away.

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:34 pm

      Mikespurs made a comment about them yesterday. The way they were set up. Its a mystery why they would leave themselves so open. I think I know why but I won’t dampen the mood!😓

      • Frontwheel 2 September 14, 2017 at 2:38 pm

        You must have had an each team to score bet up last night,surely ?

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:41 pm

          Oh yes. Got 13 out of 14 for the 6th time this month. Fc utd of Manchester cost mebtge win. I have another gypsy curse on me. I’m about to take a bath in lemon juice, doc leaf and rose hip!

          • Frontwheel 2 September 14, 2017 at 2:44 pm

            Fakinel,they had a player sent off,I think.

            • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:47 pm

              Both teams ended with ten. Utd had a man advantage for about 15 mins. Horrid business.

          • Freund or Foe September 14, 2017 at 2:48 pm

            Maybe you should consider a 12 way accumulator?

            • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:51 pm

              I’ve tried it. I get 1 goal short even if I do 10 at the moment! Where’s that amulet?

              • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:55 pm

                You know you got problems when Bayern Munich are the team that don’t score and cost ya 300 quid. Lost 2-0 Saturday. Unreal.

              • Freund or Foe September 14, 2017 at 2:55 pm

                That`s the way to do it though. I`m not wasting £10 for the chance to get £30, I want at least 250k from a £2 bet.

                • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:57 pm

                  👍💰💰💰

                • Still Nil Nil September 14, 2017 at 3:11 pm

                  You know who to ask to achieve that!

              • Camus September 14, 2017 at 2:58 pm

                Last night, I just lumped on City to win at 2/5.
                It was a dead cert so I got my stake back plus 40% of it in winnings on top.

                • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 3:01 pm

                  Worth it if you a bit to stake. Woulda done besiktas last night. They were a cert.

                  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 3:01 pm

                    *got

                • Freund or Foe September 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm

                  Not done anything like that in years. Always do a 12 way accumulator, try to pick mostly away wins if I can, staking £2. Then I do 2 x lucky 15`s, each choosing 4 PL scorecasts, one with scores that I consider possible, the other with leftfield results. 10p bets on the Lucky 15`s, so a £3 stake overall. That`s a fiver every weekend. Not ever going to hurt, but with a chance of a biggy. I`ve get a few doubles on the Lucky 15`s, netting me between £50- £250 every now and again. That kinda covers what I`m doing for a while. Just a bit of fun, innit.

                  • Camus September 14, 2017 at 3:13 pm

                    Wow, nice. Sounds like it’s working for you. Always good to have a strategy. Yeah, just a bit of fun as long as you’re not losing every time. I’m about £30-40 up overall at the mo which is nothing special but I like to stay in the black!

                    • Freund or Foe September 14, 2017 at 3:20 pm

                      I do lose nearly every time!

                    • Camus September 14, 2017 at 3:24 pm

                      Ha, I know the feeling. I won 4 times on the trot the other weekend and banked £30, then lost it all again on the next 4 or 5 stakes! 😭

                  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 3:24 pm

                    Aim for the moon! 12 matcher would be a nice earner!

                    • Freund or Foe September 14, 2017 at 3:27 pm

                      The scorecast Lucky 15`s are far more lucrative. Sometimes to Lotto levels! But with good reason.

                    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 3:40 pm

                      I’ve never done one of them. I might start…. Its time to break the spell!

            • Camus September 14, 2017 at 2:54 pm

              Freund or Foe
              Maybe you should consider a 12 way accumulator?

              Or just a humble ‘double’ or treble’, Gaz?
              A 14-match accumulator is gonna win once in a blue moon.
              It’s madness!

              • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:56 pm

                Its not too bad on both to score. I can hit em fairly regular. Just lately its been frightening.

              • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:58 pm

                Sorry, its 14 teams. 7 matches.

                • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:59 pm

                  No wonder! That would be a bit ambitious!

                • Camus September 14, 2017 at 3:00 pm

                  Oh, ok. Still though – all the stars have got to align for that to come in.
                  If I do a BTTS one, I do 4 matches maximum.

                  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 3:03 pm

                    I’m a greedy pig🐷

                    • Camus September 14, 2017 at 3:06 pm

                      Ha, I know the feeling. I’ve had some near-misses myself too. 1 team letting me down on a big win (for me) a few times.

                    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 3:12 pm

                      Its the stuff of nightmares….

    • caveman September 14, 2017 at 2:38 pm

      When your at the game you can see the complete picture. Watching on TV ypo don’t appreciate how far forward they were until you pointed that out.

    • Covspur September 14, 2017 at 3:20 pm

      +1… the only other team I would include is Liverpool in the league .. they attack with pace and last year at anfield we tried to play the high line and got found out

  • WitTank September 14, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    Thought we countered brilliantly at times against a superior side. Rode our luck with their disallowed goal but jeez, weve had enough go wrong at Wembley so it balances out.

    As for Neville, He left ManU for Everton to become truly world class!!!! Another prik of a pundit spouting il-informed crap to keep a job. Shearer is another one who says stuff for effect only

  • Harry Hotspur September 14, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    Still Nil Nil

    If Kane goes it will be when he chooses.
    If Spurs continue notbyo win something over the next 2 seasons, he will reluctantly I believe decide to go.
    If Spurs win something significant in that time, he’ll be content to stay.
    Just my opinion.

    Levy needs to match the boy’s ambition.

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      Certainly does. This coming period is going to be one of the most vital in the clubs history I feel. Levy can still make history if he shows he wants it. If its played wrong and he welches and continues to prioritise cheese rooms, NFL deals etc, things can go the other way rapidly. We have to go into the new build as a champions league side and next summer has to be ambitious in the window. Players won’t want away if he plays it right.

    • Still Nil Nil September 14, 2017 at 2:31 pm

      I think deep down he wants to, but the devil on his shoulder with the key to his wallet has the louder voice.
      All the time poch stays and defies all the hurdles placed in front of him by levy and continues to improve the team, levy has to reluctantly back him.
      As long as poch stays so will the players.
      Kane is slightly different tonyiis as he is a Spurs boy and would give his best years to Spurs.
      But as you say H, levy has to back his ambition.
      I think he will.

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    We will be looking at a record bid for Kane soon. Next summer probably. I can see 250 mill or some such being thrown at Levy. No matter, he CANNOT sell. Kane is the talisman. Some players are priceless. We’ll see where our chairman stands when the inevitable vultures emerge on the horizon.

    • Still Nil Nil September 14, 2017 at 2:19 pm

      If Kane goes it will be when he chooses.
      If Spurs continue notbyo win something over the next 2 seasons, he will reluctantly I believe decide to go.
      If Spurs win something significant in that time, he’ll be content to stay.
      Just my opinion.

      • Bruxie September 14, 2017 at 2:21 pm

        And in my opinion, it’s a good opinion.

        Kane is a Spurs man.

        His agent knows he is.

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:22 pm

        I hope he does a Le Tissier!

        • Still Nil Nil September 14, 2017 at 2:27 pm

          What? Ends up bitter and twisted?!

          • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:30 pm

            Maybe we should just win a title then…..😏

    • StuSpur September 14, 2017 at 2:21 pm

      Player value has become almost meaningless. It’s like when hyperinflation hit Germany in the 1920s. Suddenly money has not value. You can’t replace Kane because someone as good as him just cost how much you sold him for.

      • Al September 14, 2017 at 2:30 pm

        A false economy, like

  • SkySportsJews September 14, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    Yeah I read this article and had similar thoughts. He says about four times that there should have been a foul in the build up to Kane’s first, which there wasn’t – Kane was just stronger. Rubbish article. Oh well I quite like getting this kind of coverage. Just makes it all the sweeter when we inevitability prove them wrong

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 14, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    That’s the general rhetoric. Spurs will have to lose their stars. The media have been quick to undermine last night. ITV highlights had it first but pretty much skimmed over it rapidly as possible with a closing, “harsh on Dortmund”, and then on to Liverpool. They seemed to spend more time and a more comprehensive coverage of the others. They don’t like it when we are threatening the status quo.

  • SeattleSpursGuy September 14, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    From Football365’s Champions League winners and losers:

    Winners

    Tottenham
    I could have included a section about English clubs in general had Liverpool held onto their lead against Sevilla, but it is probably fitting that Tottenham top the winners list alone. While Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City all triumphed without even conceding a goal, they were first or second seed teams facing third or fourth seeds. As the early loser piece on competition tried to explain, these were expected victories. That doesn’t dampen the enjoyment, but none can exactly be lauded.

    Yet for Tottenham, victory was markedly different. Their Premier League progress over the last two years may be striking, but it means little in Europe. Knocked out at the first stage of both competitions last season, Spurs were placed in pot three for the group stage draw and promptly received the worst possible outcome. Defending champions and perennial dark horses in the same group? Cheers, guys.

    That draw made Tottenham’s home fixture against Dortmund the most important in their group stage, and therefore one of the most important in their season. If Tottenham again fall at the first hurdle then serious questions will be asked about their ability to compete on multiple fronts.

    If we reasonably assume that APOEL will take no points in this group and Real Madrid will qualify, Tottenham and Dortmund faced a straight fight for second place. In both the football and boxing sense, Spurs are ahead on points.

    Mauricio Pochettino’s side required enough fortune to finally banish the ludicrous notion of a Wembley curse, of course. Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang’s equalising goal should have stood, and less than 30 seconds later Tottenham had their crowning third goal. Dortmund were fluent and adventurous in midfield and caused their hosts headaches before, in between and after their goals, but this was a night on which only the result mattered.

    Avoid defeat in Germany in November and one of Tottenham’s principal aims for the season will have been realised, barring any bizarre results in other matches in this group. That would represent not only a significant step forward for a club required to re-prove the doubters wrong every season, but also a sizeable achievement given the draw they were handed. Now to win at this stadium in the Premier League…

    Harry Kane
    Two goals on Saturday with his right foot, two on Wednesday with his left. Perhaps Kane takes August off every year to give everyone else a chance?

    Since the beginning of 2014/15, Kane has now scored 98 times in 144 games for Tottenham. That is an astonishing record for someone so young, someone so English and someone not at a truly elite club. It’s also incredible given Kane’s multipurpose role in Mauricio Pochettino’s attacking system.

    They are different types of players, but that goal record is also almost identical to Wayne Rooney’s at his Manchester United peak in the three seasons from 2009/10 onward when Rooney scored 80 goals in 121 club games, 0.68 goals per game (Kane) vs 0.66 (Rooney). The comparison is far from ideal, but still striking. Rooney started that golden period at the age of 24; Kane has only just turned the same age.

    “Kane was fantastic,” Pochettino said after Kane’s latest two goals. “You can see today, scoring goals in the Champions League. He receives the credit he deserves. For me he’s one of the best strikers in the world. In the Champions League, the most important competition in the world, scoring will give him the credit he deserves.”

    You won’t find me disagreeing. It is probably Kane’s Englishness that stops us ever truly believing that he is a superstar of the world game, but the reasons for doubt are diminishing by the week. The boy’s a bloody gem.

  • StuSpur September 14, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    Phil Neville – Sarah Jessica Parker without makeup