Date: 13th December 2012 at 11:53am
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Good morning.

Arsenal’s supposed implosion rings the Division Bell around the Emptycrates and it’s dull tone is carried in the cold night air to N17. This really ought to produce soul searching among our lot too. Aunty Wenger seems not to have a friend in the world, word from the Daily Mail this morning is that he and Steve Bould are experiencing ‘growing tensions’ – I had no idea they were into that sort of thing, to be honest.

Are Arsenal really in trouble? The short answer is that they certainly could be. Sure, it’s easy to mock the absence of trophies but they have been busy pumping cash into the coffers and never more so than in the last few years. Failing abysmally to do the contract deals and then the inevitable flogging off of Nasri, Van Persie and Fabregas has not only been an out and out disaster but is beginning to look premeditated.

Yes they have some good players, but they are large outnumbered by guys they can’t rely upon. They don’t look like a Champions League side. Just as we don’t – by the way.

It’s a tired phrase to wheel out but nevertheless a truth that ‘the game has changed’. Sure, if a young player comes along who has talent he’s always championed warmly but nobody or very very few have either the patience or tolerance anymore for ‘works in progress.’ Everyone wants a banquet in the time it takes to make a Pot Noodle. That’s cold but it’s true. If it weren’t the case then both the Emptycrates and The Lane would constantly vibrant places, rocking with expectant fans.

Instead everyone sits in silence – and I’ve made this analogy before and I’ll make it again – like an audience at a Bond movie. Opening titles yeah yeah yeah. Team sheet yeah yeah yeah. Opening sequence yeah yeah yeah. Initial bit of passing yeah yeah yeah. Heart pumping escape/chase magnificent multiple explosions. Wow, this is good! No goal. Look at watch. ‘So and so looks like he doesn’t care. I always said he was sh*t.’

We sit on the brink of a stadium redevelopment and genuinely risk following in Arsenal’s footsteps but without the Champions League successes. So the question is, how do we avert this fate? You could argue that we’ve already been asset stripped player wise so we’re well on course. Bale going would be our very own Van Persie sale.

Well this may shock a few, but Levy & Co. need to spend. I don’t mean go shopping like Mark Hughes, like a dog chasing cars. But we need to make sure that Jan Vertonghen, Sandro, Lloris, Bale and Adebayor aren’t simply marking time in the Lilywhite.

We need to bring in a shiny new right back opposed to waste any more of lives saying, ‘He’s ever so quick, though isn’t he?’  a midfield general so Parker’s 50th birthday and retirement party doesn’t suddenly take us by surprise and a winger. I don’t care much for which wing he can play best on, we just need another option than hoping that Bale and or Azza Blud decide to join in every game, because mostly they don’t.

I have no understanding of the innermost machinations of the way Arsenal are run, so I don’t know if they have used the cash from the player sales to pay for the stadium or spent it all on dwarf porn. What I do know is that we can’t hope to progress on a firm footing working on the basis that ‘we should just about get away with it.’

  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?

  • ronwol196061 December 15, 2012 at 2:53 am

    :Geek: :Elvis: :Afraid:

    ODM,Harry and their world famous gues,Jason Bourne in next weeks HHH

    • ronwol196061 December 15, 2012 at 2:54 am

      Good Gues

  • ronwol196061 December 15, 2012 at 2:50 am


    Jason Bourne some 12 hours later looking at the possibility of playing a team full of Swans

    • Boy Charioteer December 15, 2012 at 2:36 pm

      :Bye: Jason Bourne at Fenchurch Street

  • cookiebun December 15, 2012 at 12:59 am

    All good and wholesome from Levy, but unfortunately unless there is investment , not alone will we not qualify for the ECL but we will lose our best players. That’s a real fucking problem and no matter how well ‘AVB ‘ organises things we need to invest in decent players that are going to be able to play in his system. I’m beginning to think that Siggy will come good though and establish himself. I’m trying hard to shed my Victor Mildrew attitude towards AVB and believe, but it’s hard for an ‘old codger’ to get away from my belief that David Moyes should have been appointed.

    • Essexian76 December 15, 2012 at 9:31 am

      Here’s a ‘what if’ scenario for you…if there was any truth in the rumour Madrid want to pay 56m fro Bale. What would you do if you were Levy?

      • cookiebun December 15, 2012 at 3:00 pm

        Don’t know as I’m not ITK with what is going on in the finance department or if there is another winger that is available to purchase. I wouldn’t sell him and not replace him like we did with Modric. We had 15 months notice that he was going and did ‘diddly squit’ about it and the same happened when Berbatov left. If Levy is to be admired for his buying/selling tactics, it’s always at the expense of leaving a massive gap in the team. If he could correct that, or at least look as though ‘he gave a curse’ I would have more faith in him, but the way his sales and purchases have gone in the last five years doesn’t help the team.

        • Essexian76 December 15, 2012 at 3:05 pm

          Got to disagree once again-Modric’s replacement is Dembele, and although he may not have the class on the ball, he certainly has the impact, perhaps more.

  • SpursGator December 14, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    The Daniel Levy plan to reach the promised land:

    1. Show a willingness to spend money, over several windows, that sets the club apart from other mid-table clubs. Spend 8-16 million each on players like Dmitar Berbatov and Luka Modric, but also Didier Zakora, David Bentley, David Bent, Wilson Palacios, Robbie Keane the second time when he’d alreayd proven to be over the hill at Anfield, Alan Hutton, Pascal Chimbonda the second time (ok less than 8 mil but still), and lots of others. Make it clear we are a buying club with resources even if it’s hard holding onto our very best players like Carrick and Berbatov.

    2. Find the right manager to wake up the group of sullen veterans. Get them integrated with a group of promising young players like Modric, Bale, Huddlestone, Walker, Assou-Ekotto and Lennon. Finish fourth and make your fans hysterical with joy.

    3. Reach the Champions League, make a big splash, get the young guys playing with confidence, and qualify for the knockout stage despite having only Peter Crouch to play the striker position. Bring the club to within 7 matches or so from the European Cup.

    4. Enter a January transfer window in which almost every pundit (and the manager) thinks that the team is one decent striker away from being world-class.

    5. Suddenly refuse to spend money and buy no one of value. Crash out of Champions League and fail to qualify the following year.

    6. Follow this up, by some miracle, by bringing back the entire team with no defections, and somehow find a decent striker on loan. Play brilliantly, enter January transfer window a few points off first place, but with a worrying trend of being unable to score, and with said striker visibly tiring.

    7. Once again refuse to invest in the club. Get a striker on a free who was last good in 2005. Fall to fourth, then miss the CL due to the twin racist evils of Chelsea and UEFA.

    8. Buy some promising young players, then hire a new coach, promising to invest in the club by signing certain players. Instead, sign different players, then sell two of the three best players overseas. Say you tried to sign the players the new manager wants, but blow at least one of deals by running into paperwork complications since you waited until the night of the deadline to start working on it.

    9. When the club plays better than expected, leak to the press that our top targets are Moutinho, Willian, and Lloriete, and also leak to your fans that the club is ‘in for’ none other than Wesley Snejder, despite the fact that the club would have a better chance of signing Mary Whitehouse’s corpse as the new team hooker.

    Whilst I am slowly coming round on AVB, success could be a mixed blessing. If he’s successful, other clubs will come calling where he does not have to put up with this kind of shit.

    And yes, I realise that ‘someone has to be the arsehole around here’ and that Levy has no problem with that role. But that’s because he’s a fucking arsehole. Yes?

    • Frontwheel 2 December 14, 2012 at 6:09 pm

      So it was Levy’s fault we finished 4th and Chelsea won the CL,and while Harry was Sticking,FOR SALE signs on ratboys forehead Levy stood his ground(and has since replaced the rat with Dembele,I’m happy with that)until there was no other option but to sell.As for VDV,when was the last good game he played?
      Like David Dein over Arsenal,some people really don’t know how good they have it until its gone,I would hate us to make the same mistake as the Arse.

    • calebray December 14, 2012 at 9:03 pm

      behave yourself mate.
      a sense of self awareness is needed.
      i suppose you would like us to work on the same model as city and chelsea then?
      any success would mean fuck all.
      or is this just a pissing contest for you?

      if we don’t do this honestly, it means nothing.
      unfortunately, the honest way is a slow one with mistakes along the way.

      coys and coygfg

      • Essexian76 December 14, 2012 at 9:18 pm

        What him above said but with huge baubles attached and electrified

      • SpursGator December 15, 2012 at 11:59 am

        So if we had managed to sign a top striker in January two years ago to replace Crouch – due to Levy’s genius or in spite of it – and pulled off a shocking victory over Real and went on to lift the European Cup. Would that have been doing it too fast and thus, meant nothing to you?

        And of course then we would have qualified for the next CL – with a striker we likely would have done that even without winning Europe. Then we get the TV money and additional gate which pays for the big January investment. To me that is the right way to do it – it has nothing to do with how City and Chelsea do it.

        This argument about how the slow way is the honest way is not only weak, it’s just wrong. The slow way won’t work at a smaller club because over time is where richer clubs have the most consistent advantage – just as casinos can smile when you get the big win, because over time, they’ve got the advantage. Over time our best players will look for bigger contracts and leave.

        My rant against Levy is fueled by my growing understanding of this fact. Over time we will finish lower, consistently, than richer clubs – the data is out there for all to see. But in an individual season, the players on the pitch have more influence than the statistics. It’s another way of saying that winning a stacked race isn’t impossible for Tottenham, but that the opportunity might only come along once in a long while, when everything is right.

        I am faced with a growing realisation that we may have just had one of those generational opportunities – admittedly created by Levy’s work. But just when that tiny window opened, for whatever reasons, he didn’t go for it. It’s not just sad for us as fans, it was a bad investment decision. A couple of years in the CL, combined with the worldwide TV popularity of the club at a critical juncture in the consumption of media globally – it could have maybe pushed us into that elite, or more realistically, at least pushed through the stadium more quickly by boosting the naming rights, etc.

        So maybe I’m wrong and we are still climbing this bump and not past it. But we can’t sign players good enough or quickly enough to replace the annual exits of Modric, Bale, or whomever. Lyon tried this ‘Moneyball’ approach and it worked, for awhile. But who has their star keeper now? What is their current league position?

        Nothing more haunting than a missed opportunity.

  • Boy Charioteer December 14, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    Jason Bourne 10 minutes later. :Felon:

  • ronwol196061 December 14, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Jason Bourne 5 minutes later…


    • Billy Legit December 14, 2012 at 11:11 pm

      Me and me old mucker Joey Barton are having a lads night out tomorrow, Ronnie. Fancy tagging along you gorgeous sonofabitch you?

      • ronwol196061 December 15, 2012 at 12:05 am

        Who’s Joey Barton?

        Is he with Treadstone?

        What side is he on,ours or theirs?

        I heard that Jon Terry has joined Treadstone too and they are all complaining about Harry Boy Hotspur who has somehow found a gravatar company with only white gravatars

        • Billy Legit December 15, 2012 at 5:39 am

          I’ll take that as a ‘no’.

  • ronwol196061 December 14, 2012 at 11:15 am


    Jason Bourne

  • ronwol196061 December 14, 2012 at 11:14 am


    :Geek: :Geek-Girl: :Geek: :Geek-Girl: :Geek: :Geek-Girl: :Geek: :Geek-Girl: :Geek: :Geek-Girl:

  • ronwol196061 December 14, 2012 at 3:56 am

    :Thinking: Wenger

    :Devil: Fergie

    :Wink: Redknapp

    :Worry: Mancini

    :Superman: AVB

    :Tired: Brendan Rogers

    :Distort: Rafa Benitez

    • Boy Charioteer December 14, 2012 at 9:56 am

      :In-pain: Where’s Mark Hughes?

  • ronwol196061 December 14, 2012 at 3:45 am

    I understand that you ‘ave a gravatar ‘ere that could belong to Ronnie Wolman.’ave you seen him????
    That wouldnt be ‘im over there to the left would it??????


    :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police: :Police:

  • ronwol196061 December 14, 2012 at 3:00 am

    where is my Gravatar?

  • johns December 14, 2012 at 1:57 am

    So what are we supposed call you now H ,Boy!

  • Gestie December 13, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    :The-Incredible-Hulk: i am not sure what the answer is to get us to the next level of performance, what has impressed me the most this this year was the everton celebrations by Jelavic and the backroom staff after he was substituted – seems the closest thing to real team spirit, guts, determination, togetherness, pride, belief, tenacity, courage, will, strength, and above all a wish to play his heart out for the club he represents. all of these qualities we could do more with at WHL and/or/if the new stadium, the two players that demonstrate this the most are sandro and vertonghen, sadly two does not make a team and does not make a team that is greater than the sum of its parts. until the rest of the squad unites in the passion i saw in that game we are all going to continue to take some schadenfreude pleasure from the boys at WHL.


  • Hartley December 13, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Just a striker who knows where the goal is, stays onside, is not of a nationality that plays in the ANC, and gives his all every minute of every game……that’s not too much to ask for….is it?

    • Frontwheel 2 December 13, 2012 at 10:54 pm

      80,000 Euros fine for Serbia,that’ll teach em :I-see-stars:

  • Bukkake-breath December 13, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Don’t think we need to spend loads of money we obviously need a creative CM Moutinho or Erikson look most likely and are both class if we can ome of them and get llorente we should finish first in London BTW nice shiny weblog

  • Bobbles December 13, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Harry, seeing the following issues with the new site:

    1. Massive emoticons
    2. Big non-loading image at the top of each post
    3. “you can create menus with WP menu builder” text at top of hoe page

    Hope this helps.

    • onedavemackay December 13, 2012 at 11:54 pm

      You need to think of this as a work in progress

      Strangely I’ve never known a woman tp complain about massive emoticons

  • Bobbles December 13, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    I read in the standard the other day that if games ended after 80 mins then we’d be top of the league – thats something to ponder isn’t it?

  • Frontwheel 2 December 13, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Any bold HH,I just simply could not cope without it

    • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 10:19 pm

      Back off you LLLophile!

  • Frontwheel 2 December 13, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    I think we are dreaming if we think Arsenal are in trouble,they are still years ahead of us.In a few years time when their debt is paid and they get a bit of sense in the transfer market they could be a real Goliath.
    We need to punch above our weight as we have been doing get the stadium built and paid for and with Levy holding the purse strings I feel confident that he will be able to set up a great future for Tottenham.I don’t want us to take a gamble like Leeds United did.

    • DAVID December 13, 2012 at 6:29 pm

      That is also my fear regarding Arsenal, just a matter of time before they find themselves with billions to spend and in the right hands they could become a major force.

    • spursgoliath December 14, 2012 at 5:04 pm

      there’s only one goliath :Who-s-the-man: there’s only one goliath

  • Alspur December 13, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Anyone spending Xmas with Gooner friends / relatives?

    If so, why not treat them to something special, this year…

    Bradford City FC Shop
    Coral Windows Stadium
    Valley Parade
    BD8 7DY
    Tel: 01274 309945

    Item Name CLUB CRESTED TIE 2012, £48.00

    :Overjoy: :Overjoy: :Overjoy:

    • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 4:28 pm

      Why spend 48 quid on a tie, give them a six foot piece of rope-it’s cheaper and does the same job

    • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 7:28 pm

      Nice work, madam!

  • Boy Charioteer December 13, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Is anyone else feeling a sense of trepidation over the Swans match on Sunday?

    • Billy Legit December 13, 2012 at 5:04 pm

      A little bit, but i think we’ll squeeze one out.

  • Alspur December 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Sorry, H – I don’t think a RB is a priority in this window, the Kyle(s) Show has potential and will come good, I’ve no doubt of it (you don’t go from Hero (Player of the Year) to Zero quite that easily…)

    Creativity is what we lack – a player who can play wide or behind the front players would be my priority… I think Willian is probably the front runner for that berth.

    In addition, a passer of the ball, in the mould of a Moutinho/Ericksen would be brilliant – Carroll has bags of potential, but we need more depth in that area.

    Finally, I still don’t really like that idea of only have 2 out & out strikers on the books…

    So, that’d be my top three Xmas wishes…

  • richspurs December 13, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    not the boyhotspur
    the unclehotspur!!!

  • LLL December 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Don’t really care about Arsenal. Are they imploding? Not really, it’s been a very slow decline which has been given the illusion of stability by continual CL qualification. In other words, they are what this club strives to be, sadly. A team who can consistently make up the numbers in the top 4 and go through the motions in the CL, meaning they turn a nice profit and give off an impersonation of a competitive, ambitious football club. Until they hit rocky patches, but you would have to be foolish to write them and / or Wenger off. Look at last season. Wenger isn’t the problem, much as I loathe him, or perhaps if he is now the problem it’s because he’s lost his touch for identifying good, cheap talent that they can get a few years out of. Whoever would replace him would have to do a same same job of trying to finish in the one spot that is open to them – 1-3 are taken by Utd and the other two. Arsenal, with much higher turnover and profit than any team outside the top 3 are overwhelming favourites to finish 4th but that is winning the league for them nowadays – good as it gets.

    As for us needing new players… 100% we won’t buy a right back, though I think that given our completely vulnerable left side since Benny got injured, a LB may well come in. No idea why Rose went on loan really. Well, I guess AVB thought Jan would be good cover, but that he certainly hasn’t been.

    We need to shed a goal keeper and send Gallas off to Arry.

    We need to sign a midfielder who is an all rounder. At the moment we have a good tackler (Sandro), a good passer (Huddlestone) and a good dribbler / runner (Dembele), but more or less all of them come up short in their non-specialized departments. Sandro can’t pass for toffee (can pass to toffee though, as the game the other day proved), Huddlestone looks like he is moving around in toffee and I can’t think of a toffee based analogy for Dembele but he doesn’t have the passing vision or ability to open defences. Carroll looks like he may have that vision, but he needs developing.

    We also need a striker but I can’t see it happening.

    A winger? Maybe, but can’t see that happening either. I think HH is a complete nincompoop that he can’t see that Lennon is one of our hades workers btw.

    Lastly, the squad has issues, but so does the coach. If the team continue to show a lack of fight and passion, and lack the energy to last the distance, some of that comes down to the coach, you can’t blame it all on ipods and tattoos or whatever.

    • LLL December 13, 2012 at 3:31 pm

      ‘Hades workers’ Freudian slip of some kind perhaps? :Devil:

    • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 5:00 pm

      I blame the lack of energy on continually having to play two games a week every week in search of useless, pointless and profitless cup-If we had the squad to compete-fair enough, but we’ve got players who’ve not had a weeks rest until now, not forgetting their International appearances as well.
      And please don’t tell me playing in the CL would be the same?, it’s not and neither is the EL worth putting CL qualification at risk for, as our squad is diminished compared to last season.

      • LLL December 13, 2012 at 5:32 pm

        I agree that we should have rotated more in the ropa, even though the first team managed to make very hard work of qualifying. But that is 100% on the coach anyway, he wants to compete and win in the ropa. His call.

        But of course it would be the same as playing in the CL effort wise. In fact, I’d rather think we’d see a bit more effort and work rate if the first team had been involved in the more glamorous ties the CL group stage might throw up…

        • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 5:52 pm

          What I mean by not the same-I’m referring to the competition itself-The CL is the chance to compete against the best-whereas the EL is competing against an awful lot of crap and if you get through that-you then meet those not deemed worthy of playing in ‘proper’ competition. Judging by the players performances in the EL it would seem I’m not the only one who feels like this.

    • hoofing December 13, 2012 at 8:04 pm

      Don’t really care about Arsenal. Are they imploding? Not really, it’s been a very slow decline which has been given the illusion of stability by continual CL qualification.

      That is it, its all an illusion, a slow decline from regular EPL winnersand regular qualfiers to just regular CL qualifiers. What a shit decline. The Blue Racist owner would have sacked Auntie years ago.

  • HarryAbbots December 13, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Hi H, site looking good, just wondered about a couple of things please. I was born to be a technophobe and am sure I’m looking with my eyes closed, but where is the “upload your gravatar here” section please. Jealous that some feel the force and I don’t. Also, some of your ads don’t open in a new window and take all the good looking guys away from your site. Maybe you knew that and I didn’t tho’. Cheers me dear….

    • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 3:24 pm

      Now here’s a long time reader. Hello sir.
      You just need to go to and it links the image of your choice withe the email address off your choice.

      I’ll look into the ad biz. Nice to see you again.

      • HarryAbbots December 13, 2012 at 3:44 pm

        Hopefully all gravatared up now. Many thanks

        • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 3:46 pm

          It can take a few hours, sometimes only 20 minutes.

          • HarryAbbots December 13, 2012 at 3:49 pm

            20 minutes for most people. A case of operator error methinks…..

            • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 6:42 pm

              Heh, there she goes! Class.

  • BrizzleSpur December 13, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    Nothing lasts forever. There are 3 Clubs in the EPL that will stop at nothing to achieve what they want and the football on the pitch is largely an afterthought.
    Winning the EPL must be an incredible feeling, it’s hard to imagine. Whats harder to imagine is winning it through hard work, determination and guile.

    Arsenal will go the way of Liverpool. After seasons of spending what money the coach was trusted with on players that fail in comparison to their predecessors, the board will become alienated and turn on their beloved Manager.
    Alienating players and fans along their way the losses pile up and bad decisions will be made.

    Any club can cope with winning, it’s coping with loss that requires tact and spirit. Manure have had their share of downs over the years but combine experience with fortune to consistently put out a strong squad season after season.

    You can draw comparisons between Arsenal and Spurs, I’ve felt that way for a few years now as I’ve watched not only their best players, but some of the best players in the EPL move on to bigger contracts.

    Now I actually don’t give a toss what happens to Arse. I’d like to see them liquified in brilliant blue and white flames. But what I find most tragic is the concept of a loyal sheep dog being take round the back and shot because the farmer bought retarded sheep.

    Whatever is going wrong, I don’t think it’s the fault of one of the best managers the EPL has ever seen.

  • push and run December 13, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Thank God you are back – thought you had turned
    and were wearing a red shirt now

    • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm

      I just had some launderette issues, mate.

  • S_P December 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    He is a bit one dimesnional, the lad, but, very effective at what he does! Given the unrest at the (IFF)Emerates, now is probably the best time for Spurs to go for Schadenfreude.

  • Ronnie Wolman December 13, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Can somebody please explain to me how this blog goes upside down occasionally.
    Is it the webmaster? or my inner ear problem?

    In wither case its better then the last message is on top as its easier to see from your phone

    so if I can do anything about this please let me know!


    • Bruxie December 13, 2012 at 1:33 pm

      Latest post at the bottom, please!

      Don’t pander to phonists!



      • Ronnie Wolman December 13, 2012 at 1:36 pm

        Have to call you Paul Scrolls

      • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm

        It’s fixed you looper!

    • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 1:38 pm

      Harry’s new site is now in India following the likes of the big banks and business’ in the UK, hence the upside down mode of communication-but for heavens sake don’t phone his help line-it’ll cost you a mint and you’ll still be none the wiser

      • Ronnie Wolman December 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm

        Bought a Dell computer once.It was really good.Service was excellent.
        When the time to get a new one came,I phoned Dell and was met with “Master Card or Visa?”
        I said I would like to know about a psrticular model
        again the person said “master card or Visa?

        • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 3:05 pm

          Was it a Charles Babbage original Ronnie? :Happy-Grin:

          • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 3:30 pm

            If I had known any of you had credit cards I would’ve so much politer in the past.

            • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 4:24 pm

              I’ve a few discredited cards and testimonials to prove it

      • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm

        Habib has only got one pair of hands. That what she said.

  • Ronnie Wolman December 13, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    Levy is working within a system of business that is for the most part conservative and relatively clever.He is obviously about the bottom line,not the forward line.
    Thiis is how he is working right now because it has worked for the business model he has.
    Small stadium/buy value and try to do the best with what is available that works. The company makes money.
    He keeps the fans cooking too. We do buy players. We do have a good team thats not quite the best. But for the business it works.
    He has us all believing in the Tottenham brand.That eventually we will get back to the garden.
    The stadium will get built and we will up the anti and in between Levy will get creative and it seems much more creative so far than the manager.
    Good or bad he did buy the two D’s for a song. Vert was a good buy and I think Sigg has tremendous talent and is a good one going forward. Lloris is too (booooooo?) and getting AVB was a gutsy move and not neccessarily a dumb one.

    No Levy is ok.The club is on solid financial footing and with less are doing more and have more potrential than most clubs in the league.

    Me? I’ll be honest because of my age,Im running out of time but Im in there for the long haul no matter what. I might just start supporting Man U to get some extra time added on.

    • cincinnatiyid December 13, 2012 at 2:16 pm

      Ronnie, Please don’t slip and fall down on the stairs. Sir Alex will surely be awarded a penalty. :Wink: :Approve:

  • Aidy-J December 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    I agree that we could do with a couple of new faces but I don’t think we need to spend really big actually who am I kidding quality costs money. We definitely need cover for the wings this would be my priority, will-I-an could be an option but I think we may see an up and comer from far away lands to act as back-up, I wouldn’t be dropping Bale or Lennon. As for a general I believe we are OK for now with Sandro/Parker/LiverJenas what we need is a centre mid too unlock defences, I fear moutinho is a no go, we really f***ked that one up, the latest name linked Eriksson would be more up Levy’s street with sell on value which unfortunately seems to be how our best players are viewed. Right back I think with Walker/Naughton/Smith we have plenty of cover Kaboom can play there too, I think Walker will improve in a steady 4 of him kaboom verts and benny instead of old man gallas. Striker well thats never going to happen I think AVB is probably satisfied with his options until the summer. I think we may see one big name but it could be any position Lllorente?Eriksson?Willian we may see a couple of young players for cover roles left/right back, wing but I think it will be quiet, because if we don’t get Champs league or even if we do Levy will see the money from a Bale sale as the way to afford bigger names. Unfortunately that’s how he rolls, rather than take a gamble in January to try and cement champs league. I predict little movement but improvement when we get the full squad back

  • 'Ang on... December 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    I completely agree with your point about fans having no patience for players who are a work in progress. But then I’m a little confused by your contradiction when you so desperately seek a replacement for the 22-year-old, 4-cap right back we have who is certainly a work in progress. Played a blinder against Liverpool (“yeah, but that was like, two weeks ago!”), is, as you say, “ever so quick”, and is only going to improve over the next ten years.

    It’s all very well hoping the likes of Bale and Adebayor stay, but who would want to stick around where anything but immediate and consistent excellence is treated with contempt? Sure, it should be the aim, but it’ll never be the reality. (Bale himself, by the way, is a 23-year-old “work in progress”, which is exactly why he sometimes seems to not “join in every game”).

    Are you in favour of patience or aren’t you?

    • BrizzleSpur December 13, 2012 at 1:59 pm

      Walker has been first choice RB for a while now. I’m definitely losing patience with the guy as he’s demonstrating a complete ineptitude for his position. Tom Carrol shows promise without the urgency to be excellent for 90 mins as he’s a squad player coming through. Walker however is currently 1st choice for his position and looks below par this season.

    • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 3:28 pm

      I might be. Are you a policeman? :Be-Happy:

      No look, I think we need to field players that the fans will get behind, hence my dismay and the contradiction.

      • Bobbles December 13, 2012 at 10:17 pm

        Why are these emoticons so massive? There’s just no need for it!

  • CincinnatiYid December 13, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    It would be interesting to know what. Messrs. Lewis and Levy’s projected target profit margin is. They are entitled to a profit if they can make it, but there should be a comparison between what they take out and what is left in to run a solvent and winning team. It would also be interesting to see a comparison between all PL teams revenues and number of pots taken home. Could be illuminating.

    So far, Daniel=11 years (12?)=1 pot. How much per pot?

    Oh, and BTW:

    1. Find a good manager and stick with him

    2. Enter the transfer window before 10 pm on the last night.

    • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm

      Apart from Utd (wealthiest club in England), Chelsea (limitless funding) City (Ditto) and Arsenal (8 years and counting), who else has won anything of note since the EPLwas formed, you could put Blackburn in the Chelsea-City band, but in all honesty-how were ever going to compete on such an uneven playing field?

      • hoofing December 13, 2012 at 7:51 pm

        how were ever going to compete on such an uneven playing field?

        4th place now is like winning the league, you get to kick about in europes elite if you qualify. Ask a Reading fan that question, whats their belief of attaining 5,6,7,8,9 even 10th place postion, in my dreams………. THFC will never win the EPL in my life. Levy and Lewis know it. Why dish out the wonger based on sound economics where as the blue racists use wonger grow in the fields of Siberia. Last season was so close, and huess what happened, the sky top four media put one over on droopy chops.

        We just the fans, we oil the wheels but dont run the engine.

        • hoofing December 13, 2012 at 7:55 pm

          We need a spell and grammer checker, maybe not just a little bit of time to let the words sink in.

          • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 8:16 pm

            I think you’re right, but we were never in hunt apart from 84-5 and 86-7 in my lifetime, and it was relativity easy to win compared to now.As I said earlier, I never chose Spurs for winning things, they just happened to be my local side and played bloody good football.

  • Ronnie Wolman December 13, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    Arsene Wenger is a good manager who had a good plan.
    He developed players at young ages into a team and some of them became great stars along the way.
    He had success.They played great football often.

    Thats what a good manager can do.
    A great manager has the ability to change and develop himself not just the players.
    That is the difference between a Wenger and a Ferguson or Mourinho. They will adapt.
    Wenger didnt want to spend.Wanted to keep his idea and was forced to buy and now is lost.

    I think that after Ferguson made the mistake of relegating Tevez and Berbatov to bit parts,and marginalized Rooney to the wing when Ronaldo was around he came back strongly when he lost all of them and giot to the players heads in what has been the last two years a masterfuljob of outwitting the opposition. He may own the refs and the clocks but look you cant take away what he has done.

    Our lacking so far has been the manager. Its not that AVB is not good.He may well be.But watching some of the weaker teams this season play much better that us it puts up a question mark about AVB’s ability to be clever with what he has.
    We have had our fair share of injuries for sure. But still it hasnt been impressive of our part.Our caving in could be blamed on the players.But would Ferguson ever allow that? I mean Im sure its happened before with them but not for long has it?
    When our players go to other teams they immediately look better. Again Im not sure in every case but often it is like that and thats not about AVB as much but maybe about our club.

    The key for me is for AVB to grow.If he is a thinker,then think. You have a plan like Wenger is one thing but when left with less opportunities thats when the thinking comes in. If you are the type of manager who can boost the players confidence to get the job done its one thing but if you cant you better have a plan B which is different from the ideological plan that you started off with that isnt working.

    Im not saying AVB’s plan is not working. Im saying I have doubts about his ability to change for this league.

    The jury is still out.

    It will only come back after Kaboul,Parker and Benny return.

    So I hope for the best.I hope that AVB can figure out what works and what doesnt. But Im not sure.

    The results so far havent been different than Harrys.Not better and not worse. We flow when we flow and dont when we dont.

    • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 12:43 pm

      The one thing that’s kept me going all these years is the football, not the results (obviously), and the football so far has been less the palatable to be honest.We’re in transition make no mistake, and AVB’s role is to assertain who stays and who goes over this coming season, that’s a gimme. I’ll wait, no problem, to see how this begins to take shape, and if for instance Bale departs for say 50m?, then if those funds are spent by AVB and spent wisely, then I’m good because that’s where we are right now-but it’s the football, I’m most concerned about right now, and it’s frankly piss poor in my opinion.

    • C.O.T.I December 13, 2012 at 12:43 pm

      what he said ^^^ :Approve:

  • Mitchell Thomas December 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Dwarf Pron you say? Ding Dong the witch is dead, which old witch, the Wenger witch.

    He’ll be gone before season end. Guarantee it.

    • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 1:40 pm

      Should that be Dinky Dong?

  • Bruxie December 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Upside down blogging hurts.


  • Bruxie December 13, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Building on stable foundations and not getting ourselves embroiled in wage wars will, in the long run, do us good.

    The lack of patience is the main obstacle and danger for both fans and the board. We really need to stick to a plan – and DL will have that plan.

    Arse are missing David Dein. He was their strategist on wages and signings and gave confidence to Wenger in the choice of talent. The lack of contract acumen has cost Arse dear. And it is this and a lack of risk in spending their gate receipts that is giving their fans the platform to criticise.

    They use the UCL as an income source – not as a competition. Time is running out with their parking ticket – and if they don’t do something in January they will not qualify. Wenger will then be perilously close to becoming Director of Football and their Russian will be invited to participate in the funding of a new epoch.

    Slowly, slowly…catchee monkey. Stability for us and an adventurous spirit with the proceeds of our caution.

    2015 might be a very good year. I can wait – provided we do things properly.

  • Bruxie December 13, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    Are arse fans stupid?

    I’d be very pleased to see him go.

    Who would get the job?


    • theboyhotspur December 13, 2012 at 12:17 pm

      Is Owen Coyle no longer their first choice? :Movie-Time:

    • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 12:36 pm

      I’ve a feeling they’ll go for David Moyes (although I reckon he’s bound for Utd) or even Jose-provided Jose uses his own money for transfers

      • Billy Legit December 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm

        Iain Dowie.

        Hang on, is Don Howe still alive?

        • Essexian76 December 14, 2012 at 2:13 am

          I love you Mom

          • Billy Legit December 14, 2012 at 10:38 pm

            I hope you’ve washed behind the ears and brushed your teeth before beddy bye bye time young man!

            If not, it’s the slipper for you!

            • Essexian76 December 15, 2012 at 9:35 am

              Oooh, yes please=I used to love it when our PE teacher took a long run up before unleashing his whack with a Dunlop Green Flash-Ha, the idiot thought he was administering a punishment!

              • Billy Legit December 15, 2012 at 1:03 pm

                Tease! :Devilish:

  • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    All well and good, but any idea’s as to how we’re supposed to get the money to buy these players?. I know and understand fully the myth about Joe Lewis being a fairy godfather and how Daniel Levy has a billion pound stuffed down his sofa, but the reality is simple, we either live within our means or go bust trying to chase a dream, a dream we may not attain, as our rivals have a bottomless pit-and we don’t.
    If you take Chelsea and Man City out of the equation, where are we?, Where are Arsenal?, they’re only there because of someone’s desire to buy success, not because their football clubs are either viable or better supported than us-so why should either of us try to emulate a blueprint that cannot be replicated by good business practice? I believe the club have a vision and a plan, and that may involve us being sold off to an oligarch if the price is right, but I also think that Levy has his own idea, that we can restructure and build foundations that can elevate us into a new age without compromising the clubs future. That’s why we’ve built Bulls Cross, that’s why we’ve got rid of a dinosaur, and that’s why we’ll succeed in the long run.

    • cookiebun December 13, 2012 at 12:40 pm

      @Essexian: Good comments. Hope your right and somehow I think you are, especially about Levy’s handling of the situation. I also think he has a plan and I think he cares. On top of that he’s no mean business man. Just hope Joe Lewis lasts the distance.

      • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 12:50 pm

        You see, that’s the curveball the media roll out to justify how Spurs have been knocking on the door for the past few seasons.
        Joe Lewis hasn’t invested a penny, and has no intention of ever doing so as I read it. He doesn’t even like the game, let alone Spurs, he just happens to be the chairman of the company that owns us, and that’s about it. If the media were to give Levy any credit, then they in turn would look pretty stupid as he doesn’t like or give them anything other than scraps or contempt-but believe me, if they had any dirt on the bloke, we’d have known by now-that’s for sure

      • cookiebun December 13, 2012 at 7:21 pm

        I think your facts are a bit wishy washy here Essexian. Joe Lewis owns a percentage share of 70% of ENIC. I would therefore feel that a lot of Joe Lewis’s money has gone into ENIC and by the virtue of the fact that ENIC own 85% of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, it follows that he has, more than a ‘passing interest’ in the club. The fact that Levy’s family have a 30% interest in ENIC would demonstrate the percentage of interest Levy has personally in the club. Now he seems to make a lot of the decisions on the development of the club and I’m very happy that that is the case as I know he is a Spurs supporter and that he’s also a shrewd businesman. My point was that if ‘old Joe’ pegged it, would that upset the apple cart as D Levy seems to have the authority to run the club without interferrence from ‘on high’ and I wouldn’t like that to change should different people become involved.

        • Essexian76 December 13, 2012 at 8:11 pm

          No, With respect you’re confusing ENIC the holding company as opposed to THFC,of whom Daniel Levy is chairman. It’s no secret that Lewis has said we as a club have to make our own way and live within our means-in other words he’s not a philanthropist or even a fan, and to be fair, Levy’s done exactly that with innovation and speculation.If you can show me any evidence of Lewis’s involvement with Spurs either financial or otherwise then I’ll eat a Chik-King special

          • melcyid December 13, 2012 at 9:24 pm

            1 CHIK-KING TO GO.I have this on very good authourity through a friend contact and in general conversation and not tittle tattle .Joe Lewis had absolutely no interest in football ,zilch ,upto the the time that he purchased Spurs. As he had multiple interests in a few other teams a certain government board put it to him that he could not own so many clubs at once.He owned the clubs purely for the real estate around the said clubs being an asset in the future. Levy being a Spurs fan and board member put it to him that he should sell them all and keep Tottenham.This nefarious plot was hatched in the world famous Cricket club in Nassau Bahamas and was spoken of in the presence of a fellow Yid friend of mine.
            Having said that Levy has converted Joe Lewis into a Spurs fan and he does not miss watching a game either live or on his boat.His business model is not to pay anymore than the going rate for any commodity be it bricks and mortar,stocks and shares or peeps and their services.That is what is behind Levys transfer dealings etc.
            I meet a lot of different people out here who do business with him and his company in all different fields and all of this is totally consistent with his close friends as well.
            And just to kick off the ITKFA season ,Spurs will be playing in the Nassau new stadium at the end of the season,Last year there was too much internal turmoil going on so the timing wasnt right.this year it is more organized and will be tied up with promoting sales at the Albany golf estate. Levy already has a home being built there.
            Chik-king :Who-s-the-man:

          • cookiebun December 14, 2012 at 1:11 am

            Well Essexian, there you are. I do hope you do the honourable thing and eat the damded Chik-King. Do you know what’s happening re: the new stadium.

            • cookiebun December 14, 2012 at 1:17 am

              Extract from ‘Tottenham’s own shares page’
              Ultimate ownership of the Club.

              Of the total issued share capital of Tottenham Hotspur Limited, ENIC International Limited own 85.0%.

              Mr D Levy and certain members of his family are potential beneficiaries of a discretionary trust which ultimately owns 29.4% of the share capital of ENIC International Limited.

              Mr J Lewis has an interest of 70.6% of ENIC International Limited

            • Essexian76 December 14, 2012 at 2:08 am

              Well I would provided it’s Kosher, but surely Melc has only reiterated what I’ve said earlier? As regards to the new stadium, as I understand it, the Sainsbury part of the deal is done and dusted, but there’s still no funding in place for the rest-which I take to be the infrastructure and transport links-which is the biggest bugbear, and the key to the projects success.