BREAKING LIKE THE WIND
Spurs Fans Attacked In Lyon This Evening

Spurs Fans Attacked In Lyon This Evening

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Deeply unpleasant news breaking on Twitter initially anyway that Spurs fans drinking in The Smoking Dog public house in Lyon have been attacked, Lyon fans identified.

At this stage the extent of the situation is unknown but numerous on the scene eyewitnesses are confirming that chairs were thrown through a window of the bar. Unconfirmed reports of bottles and chairs being thrown at fans. Ambulances are now in attendance.

A french woman @Lestartelettes who describes herself as a Community Manager has just Tweeted that ’100 masked hooligans’ were under her window at Lyon St Paul at The Smoking Dog.

Comments
  • theboyhotspur February 20, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    The French lady is now saying that firemen have arrived…

  • ronwol196061 February 20, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Jesus!

  • minionas February 20, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    Hope the Spurs can look after themselves. Must be a back door!

    • minionas February 20, 2013 at 9:49 pm

      Happens a lot abroad lately. Strange how they don’t get banned from european competitions. I didn’t use a capital “E” for european on purpose.

    • melcyid February 21, 2013 at 4:25 am

      yids dont do back door

  • ronwol196061 February 20, 2013 at 9:48 pm
  • theboyhotspur February 20, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Mixed reports coming in that those responsible may be a mob with a far right leaning/ Lazio part flippin’ 2. Scum.

  • ronwol196061 February 20, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    scum we need some defence for future games

  • koko61 February 20, 2013 at 9:59 pm

    OMG! My cousin is over there with his mates.
    What is going on lately with fans from other countries out to hurt us.
    The game against Panathiakos ,my cousing and 4 of his mates were set on by 20 of them. with Paul his mate having his arm fractured, but still managed to see the game after having his arm set in plaster.
    Just text them, and hoping they will get back to me that they are all ok.

    • minionas February 20, 2013 at 10:03 pm

      Happened to me mate. Back doors are a fucking godsend.

      • koko61 February 20, 2013 at 10:14 pm

        Thank god lads are alright. They are drinking in the hotel and staying overnight there.

        • Spurstacus February 20, 2013 at 10:15 pm

          :Approve:

        • Frontwheel 2 February 21, 2013 at 12:08 am

          :Approve:

      • TMWNN February 21, 2013 at 3:11 am

        Said the Bishop to the actress.

      • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 3:12 am

        He he. Did you ever ‘smash em in’?

  • minionas February 20, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    I gather police at the scene

  • Luke February 20, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Hope the lads are ok.

  • Rob February 20, 2013 at 10:20 pm

    I suppose payback for the havoc some of us old uns caused back in the 70s/80s

    • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:45 am

      I think you’re closer to the truth there Old Chap :Thinking:

  • 164spur February 20, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    :Approve: hope the chaps are ok

    • ronwol196061 February 20, 2013 at 10:39 pm

      some pics of inside the pub etc

      • Hartley February 21, 2013 at 12:20 am

        That’s most definitely not THFC Ron, a forum whose members think we are called Tottenham Hotspurs…….now there’s a set of cnuts!

  • ronwol196061 February 20, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    In the south of France there is a hub of anti semitism I think especially in Lyon and Montpelier

    • Billy Legit February 20, 2013 at 11:04 pm

      Along with anti-immigration, anti-muslim, anti-anyone-with-a-tan……………

      • Essexian76 February 20, 2013 at 11:19 pm

        I can assure you it’s nothing to do with antisemitism-It’s anti English, same as everywhere else around Europe. We had it in Spain (police) and a little in Eindhoven and both times in Milan in recent times..mind you, it’s small beer compared to the eighties to be honest

        • Billy Legit February 20, 2013 at 11:28 pm

          The vast majority of football hooligan firms on the continent are run/made up of far right wing knuckleheads. If you’re English and in France then you’re a dirty foreigner and fair game, just as if you were jewish, black, brown, gay, muslim, buddhist…………

        • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:43 am

          Just to give you some perspective on the subject.I put into Google search
          ‘British fans attacked in Europe’
          I looked through 10 pages of Google results and there was 2 or so about Lyon and the rest apart from one about Poland/Russian fans clashing then went to the 14th page there was one about Heysel.

          • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:44 am

            sorry meant to say the rest were about Lazio apart from the Polish/Russian and heysel etc

        • Razspur February 21, 2013 at 7:50 am

          Loads of them giving Nazi salutes was a bit of a giveaway though.

  • seattlespursguy February 20, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    This from twitter

    @Chris Radnedge: A dozen masked men attack pub Spurs fans drinking in in Lyon. Am in it now. There are a couple of guys with minor injuries
    : Spurs fans threw tables and chairs back through pub windows to get the masked attackers away who were trying to get into the packed pub : Pub bow boarded up. We’re now just waiting inside for police to come and make it safe

    • Vinnie Jones February 20, 2013 at 11:29 pm

      Hey bro,
      You are not Matthew from Seattle by any chance, are you?
      Just wondering.

      I am also a Spurs supporter here in Seattle, btw.

      Thanks for posting the Tweet from Lyon!

      Take care.

      • seattlespursguy February 20, 2013 at 11:31 pm

        Nope. I’m not Matt. Where do you watch games? I’m often at Fado, downtown.

        • Vinnie Jones February 20, 2013 at 11:51 pm

          I’ve heard of Fado from a buddy of mine (who watches games there quite often). I haven’t been there yet.
          I occasionally go to the George (George & Dragon pub) in Fremont. And sometimes to “Atlantic Crossing” pub maybe? Don’t recall the exact name. I heard the “Market Arms” pub is pretty decent. You ever been?

          • seattlespursguy February 21, 2013 at 12:09 am

            Never been to “Market Arms” but the George is a good place and Atlantic Crossing is good for Sounders games. Give a shout if you ever head to Fado.

            • Vinnie Jones February 21, 2013 at 12:24 am

              OK, how will I get a hold of you? Just post on here?

              • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 1:08 am

                The name coupled with the gravatar is somewhat incongruous, however welcome to the blog!

                Oh! Unless your name actually is V***** J****!

                :Approve:

                • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:12 am

                  Its Vinnie JonesI saw him in a movie.
                  Are you looking at me?
                  No not that one
                  something about smoking barrells or was that Kyle Walker looking like Vinnie Jones?

                  • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 1:20 am

                    I have seen most/ all of Vinnie Jones films, and although he may never win an Oscar, one has to admire the fact that he has managed to carve out a reasonably successful 2nd career.
                    Like Dyer, and in fact, like his former footballing self he is pretty one dimensional, although I would argue that his acting career is what he will ultimately be remembered for. If you exclude him reminding Gazza that he had cojones!

                    • seattlespursguy February 21, 2013 at 3:29 am

                      Sure, post on here. I browse through a couple times a day.

                • Vinnie Jones February 21, 2013 at 7:43 pm

                  @Spurstacus – Actually, they are perfectly congruous you see, because Vinnie Jones among other things is a lifelong Spurs supporter.
                  And thanks for the welcome, btw!

              • Exchange & Mart February 21, 2013 at 1:08 pm

                For Sale: A room…sounds like you might need one.

  • Razspur February 20, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    Far Right extremists who think it’s fine to attack a club with a Jewish connection, this is the 21st Century, what will Blatter do to cover up this savage attack, ban Spurs from European Competition to stop the attacks ?

    • seattlespursguy February 20, 2013 at 10:54 pm

      Of course. It’s for our own good, after all.

    • rob February 20, 2013 at 10:59 pm

      Dock us league points. It’s the only way we’ll learn!

  • Hartley February 20, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    I can’t help but guess that Peter Herbert’s push on his own self publicity, highlighting Spurs as a Jewish club to the not so bright has once again put our supporters in immediate danger……

    • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 10:40 am

      Interesting angle….

  • Kevtheyid February 20, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    Pure anti Semitic scum,Just one of the reasons a country that size surrendered so easy to nazi hitler!

    • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 12:11 am

      Half the country didn’t surrender, they collaborated. Look up ‘Vichy France’.

      • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:41 am

        If and when I get to know you better I can give you some insight into life in Vichy during that period, as I’ve got lot’s of rellies from my mums side who lived around Lyon during that period, pretty eye opening stuff.
        As a little kid, I recall asking my mum about Churchill for a school project, and she flew into a proper hissy fit-whereas my dad, thought him OK. Found out years later that her cousin was killed by the British Navy when Churchill ordered the French fleet to be destroyed rather than it fall into Nazi hands. Nothing was black and white then anymore than it is now.

        • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 3:01 am

          You are amongst the most darkest of horses aren’t you?

          • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 11:32 am

            Me? neigh lad, neigh!

        • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 3:04 am

          Churchill has form, take Dresden for example.

          I think you know me well enough from previous posts that i rarely look at anything in plain and simple black and white, especially historical ‘facts’. The collaboration mentioned above for example can be countered by the thousands of French who were in the Resistance, a fact a lot of people who use terms like ‘cheese eating surrender monkeys’ choose to forget.

          If i’ve hit a nerve then i apologise. That wasn’t my intention.

          • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 3:06 am

            Who me? :Sad:

            • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 3:11 am

              No, not you yer plank :Wink:

          • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 3:15 am

            wellm it wasnt as bad as Hiroshima was it but Hiroshima did end the war and maybe Dresden also helped as bad as it was

            • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 3:33 am

              The ‘War’ was all but over. The people behind the decisions to fire bomb Dresden and annihilate Hiroshima and Nagasaki knew that.

              • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:15 pm

                From what Ive read about Hiroshima the bomb was thrown because the Japanese never would have surendered if it happened and it ended up saving more lives than if not

          • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 11:14 am

            Not at all Billy, I just know the area quite well and it’s history through real life and circumstances-My Dad who for all intents and purposes was Irish,fought in the last war with the RCAF, yet his old man was a fervent nationalist. All I’m saying it’s a strange world and many merely go with the flow for fear of retribution.

          • the man from room five February 21, 2013 at 2:34 pm

            + the 3 divisions of french troops who held off 10 wehrmacht divisions while the entire BEF was offloading at Dunkirk, + the French action in north Africa (Bir haakim) which saved Monty’s bacon and guaranteed success at El Alamein.

            Churchill was a a great orator but casually murdered thousands at Gallipoli at Mers el Kebir by his orders.

            • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:43 pm

              And Sydney Street- a very small incident that spoke volumes about his personality and character

              • the man from room five February 21, 2013 at 3:32 pm

                Thanks Essexian-A piece of History that showed him up as the chancer he was-
                There was a brilliant documentary recently on BBC on how he conned the Americans that the war in North Africa be kept on so that British interests there would survive. He also insisted that the invasion of Europe should go through Sicily rather than (the most logical choice) through France. Again countless people died needlessly as a result. Even the Germans when they eventually surrendered said that it was ridiculous planning!

          • chiversmetimbers February 21, 2013 at 4:11 pm

            ask a cossack about SWC….or maybe don’t

            • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 9:20 pm

              ask a morris dancer about SWC…..definitely don’t

        • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 3:06 am

          Essex are you saying that the french were allies and Churchill had the fleet blown up?

          • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 3:08 am

            You know what they say about War and the truth.What DO they say???????

            Because I heard it was going to the infirmary

          • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 3:10 am

            Not the first time such a tactic was employed by any means.

            • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 3:14 am

              Are we getting into conspiracy theories now?

              The Oscar case has 2 things,not more and thats difficult enough

              • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 3:29 am

                2 things?…………what, his plastic legs?

                • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 3:31 am

                  Still can’t understand what would drive someone to commit such a crime. Especially someone who had the world at his feet.

                  • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 3:39 am

                    Well now his ‘feet’ better get used to a 10ft by 6ft prison cell floor.

                    • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 3:50 am

                      On a serious note. The world was his oyster wasn’t it? No doubting that he has suffered in ways that most may never, but still he was the golden boy of athletics. A status reflected in every possible way.

                    • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 4:01 am

                      Yurp, i concur, and the MSM are are going to rinse this story for all it’s worth- until another major scandal breaks like the British Government putting Lithium into the water supply, or something……………

                    • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 4:09 am

                      Lithium in the water supply you say?
                      I’m in two minds as to whether that’s a good idea.

                    • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 4:22 am

                      Anti-depressants for children?
                      Drugging an entire population (without their consent) with an antipsychotic agent?
                      Then again, i’m on the tube most days during rush hour and when you look at the carriage full of miserable zombies………then again overtly cheerful happy people freak me out more……………i’m confused (too much lithium- or not enough?).

                    • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 4:26 am

                      I need a lie down :Zzzzzz:

          • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 11:15 am

            Absolutely Ron…didn’t you know that?

            • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:09 pm

              No I didnt.Ill have a read about it.

          • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 11:19 am

            @RonWol look up Mers-al-Kebir over 1,500 French sailors were killed in the incident. The Vichy had many other such battles against Allied troops during WW2

            • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm

              will definately take a look
              Is it openly written?

              • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

                Oh yes,not sure of the spelling but it was where the French fleet was anchored and Churchill ordered it’s destruction when the Vichy under Petain refused to scuttle it.

                • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:43 pm

                  Ill have a read

            • minionas February 21, 2013 at 1:12 pm

              WC asked them to come out of harbour and join us or we would render the fleet useless. They didn’t, we did.

              • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:18 pm

                They would see it was an incitement to mutiny JimLad, as Petain had told them to remain in port and not cede to WC demands-so they were obeying orders as they saw it? flipside maybe?

                • minionas February 21, 2013 at 2:25 pm

                  I agree with your previous comment…nothing is black and white. But the victors write the history.

                  • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:32 pm

                    That was my original point JimLad, I only knew about years after-actually there’s a brilliant book I’ve got called ‘England’s last wars against the French’ fascinated read if that’s your thing

                    • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:34 pm

                      England’s Last War Against France: Fighting Vichy 1940-42 [Paperback]
                      Colin Smith (Author)

  • dixta February 20, 2013 at 11:57 pm

    disgraceful. antisemetic scum. they prob all vote Lib Dem as well.
    if we get to the final i pray it aint lazio or their ilk.

  • Kevtheyid February 21, 2013 at 12:00 am

    Like most catholic country’s they are completely anti Semitic it’s a plague in Europe.

    • dixta February 21, 2013 at 12:04 am

      dont worry the next pope will sort it out

      • melcyid February 21, 2013 at 12:40 am

        wot the black one?

        • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:45 am

          why there is going to be a jewish one?

          We are in enough trouble.According to reports coming out of Lazio and Lyon,Jimmy Saville was jewish

          • Hartley February 21, 2013 at 12:49 am

            ??? :Thinking: you a ringer Ron?

            • Hartley February 21, 2013 at 12:54 am

              Ignore……partly my fault, partly yours…..a space after a full stop works for me :Tired:

              • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:09 am

                Hartley please explain tommorow

                • Hartley February 21, 2013 at 8:47 am

                  Apologies, I misread your post and the sarcasm passed me by…. :Felon: I’m going to give myself a long hard talking to……

            • melcyid February 21, 2013 at 1:16 am

              When I was growing up we used to call men who had a predilection for other men ringers,I dont think ronwol has given any cause on these blogs to be asked if hes a ringer ,if thats what you mean?say no more nudge nudge wink wink

              • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 1:21 am

                Ringers or rimmers?

                • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 1:34 am

                  William Hague?

                  • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 2:59 am

                    I know that he liked to give naked piggy back rides to Seb Coe in the gym changing rooms, but a rimmer?

                    • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 3:07 am

                      Tory Trimmer?

                    • melcyid February 21, 2013 at 4:27 am

                      turd burglars?

                    • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 4:39 am

                      Chocolate Starfish Brigade?

                    • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 4:51 am

                      Chocolate Starfish Brigade?

                      Didn’t they fight at the battle of Stamford Bridge?

                      Or were they immortalised in Tennysons poem ‘The Charge of the Chocolate Starfish Brigade’?

                  • mystic arnold February 21, 2013 at 8:26 am

                    His one saving grace is apparantley he s a spurs fan had a season ticket apparantley

                • melcyid February 21, 2013 at 1:39 am

                  jimmy rimmer

                  • melcyid February 21, 2013 at 2:19 am

                    guess who he was in goal for then

              • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 3:02 am

                I am totally confused.One day there is a language we all use and its all pretty well the same even though sometimes our views are not and the next everyone makes up their own words,made up in the last 24 hours. Ringers were always:

                a) What we starts goorbells going

                b) Someone inserted into a team that looks and plays like Messi even though he has the name Smith on his back

                B) something that makes your clothers drier than they were

                • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 3:08 am

                  What about campanologists?

                  • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 3:19 am

                    People who owned/own a VW Camper Van?

                    • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 3:29 am

                      People that study Liverpudlians?

                    • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 3:40 am

                      Calm down.

                  • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:20 pm

                    That rings a bell!

          • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:42 am

            And Kevin from Corrie don’t forget!

            • Spurstacus February 21, 2013 at 3:00 am

              He thought he’d got away with it. I know, I know innocent until proved guilty…

              • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 3:09 am

                He’s going daaaan…………..like QPRhahaha.

    • White Hart Pain February 21, 2013 at 1:55 pm

      The Catholic Church blamed the Jews for the death of Christ and recinded/apologised for this only in 1964. It is very likely that this contributed significantly to their (jews) attempted destruction. The Catholic church stood by and watched the slaughter without saying boo, even honouring Hitler on his birthday every year. It is not disputed that Hiltler was a Catholic and Mein Kampf is littered with religious terminology.

      The Catholic influence in Spain, Italy, Germany and France over the last 200 years has wrought strife across Europe, as well as raping our children they have brought their religious genocide to our doors time and time again.

  • PatJenningsGloves February 21, 2013 at 1:27 am

    My Great Grand Father was in the trenches in WW1 and he told my Mother that when he was firing his rifle at the German lines, he kept looking over his shoulder to see where the French were…………………

  • Gibbo February 21, 2013 at 7:14 am

    Makes people not want to travel abroad to watch games. Big sanctions are needed, will they happen NO chance

    • Razspur February 21, 2013 at 9:31 am

      It would be wrong to hold Lyon FC responsible for Right Wing Anti Semetic Groupings who have been active in the area. They are not Football Fans just deluded but dangerous Anarchists, Society must deal with them robustly and swiftly.
      To sanction Lyon FC for last nights events would be like sanctioning Tottenham Hotspur for the London Riots of 2011.

      • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm

        I agree with that,but also they have a responsibility if there is any trouble on thoer property

  • Razspur February 21, 2013 at 8:19 am

    Clearly from this mornings reports of Nazi salutes and chants this is an Antisemetic group, hard to believe that 70 years after the WW2 atrocities such a group can still exist, and in France. UEFA/FIFA can’t do anything about such groups but warn visiting supporters of their existance and to avoid certain areas. Sad to think Tottenham supporters are deemed as viable targets due to their Jewish connections. Another sad day for Sport.

  • mystic arnold February 21, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Just looked at the comments page on Yahoo about the attack, quite scary the number of anti semetic comments that have been excepted on it and have been given thumbs up.

  • Razspur February 21, 2013 at 9:01 am

    It seems the Front National have been very active in the Lyon area for Decades, Lyon has a Jewish population of approx 35,000 and suffers many forms of attack from personal to property.
    This begs the question as to why Tottenham Supporters were not given intellegence as to the areas to avoid and the areas deemed safe around the City of Lyon.
    Can’t see it doing tourism in the area any favours.

    • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:20 pm

      Le Pen is from Montpelier I believe and the Lyon area and the south seem to be strongholds.

  • borisjohnsonstonsils February 21, 2013 at 10:36 am

    I’m not trying to justify this type of behavior at all as it’s sickening to see. But i do think that our idiotic fans known as the ‘yid army’, invite these types of incidents to occur. That’s twice now that we’ve been attacked the night before a euro game, co incidence ? :Angry:

    • onedavemackay February 21, 2013 at 10:45 am

      You are justifying the behaviour by describing our fans as idiotic and if you think quietly having a drink in a bar is idiotic you need to sit down and have a quiet chat with yourself.

      I am trying to remember the last time any Spurs fans were accused of inciting violent behaviour unless you think calling ourselves Yids is an invitation for lower excrements of humanity to attack us

      • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 10:53 am

        Yes, ODM.
        :Approve:

        • borisjohnsonstonsils February 21, 2013 at 11:05 am

          A section of our fans called the yid army, not the majority. I’m just saying that reputations proceed teams & we have a known naughty element. Do you not find it weird that we’ve been done over twice this season alone ? As for the have a chat with yourself, well this is a blog isn’t it chirpy, what makes you the be all ?

          • Hartley February 21, 2013 at 11:17 am

            We’ve been known as the Yid Army for over 30 years, in recent months a certain Peter Herbert has been for whatever reason, making threats in the media and highlighting the fact we have a large jewish following. Right wing groups are to blame for both attacks on our supporters, and both attacks were pre planned. Coincidence?

            • borisjohnsonstonsils February 21, 2013 at 11:30 am

              Yeah, i know our history J R. I also couldn’t give a rats ass about that Herbert spouting off about what we call ourselves, he’s a nobody. I have no doubt that the attacks we’re planned, that is plainly obvious. What i’m saying is that our firm (the yid army) have a big reputation in the UK & abroad. My point is that reputations proceed & this might be the cause of these 2 incidents. Not everything comes down to religion. :Tired:

            • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 11:47 am

              Harts, the single biggest cause for this is David Baddiel, anyone else is merely a wagon jumper mate-Baddiel’s desire for publicity is a disgrace, but unfortunately this has now made us a target across Europe for any right wing loon as they just don’t get it?

              • Hartley February 21, 2013 at 12:05 pm

                Baddiel or Herbert, it doesn’t really matter, they have both used the YID campaign for their own self publicity. It is as you say, these publicity campaigns that has once again made our fans a target to the far right and each and every attack strengthens their hatred and awareness through the media.

              • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 12:07 pm

                :Thinking:
                Does this situation warrant a scapegoat though?

                For me, this is a social issue that spans decades. And whenever we visit these areas in Europe with a fascist undercurrent that goes undeterred our fans are attacked. This is a massive problem in Europe. How long until someone is killed?

                • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 12:54 pm

                  Well,someone has been killed during a bar fight in 1984-there were numerous brawls,fights etc in the 70′s and 80′s-and never once was the term Yid or anything like that the cause-it was football fans having a ruck-nothing else.

                  • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:30 pm

                    Communication has changed Essex. The political thing will stay marginalized for the most part.But if the economies of the more southern part of Europe get worse than extremes will come in more as they have always done.Thats when these things matter and sometimes its too late.
                    But for now yes,its a fringe lot with a few hangers on only

                    • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 1:42 pm

                      Early 80′s RonWol, how much more of a depression could you want? It’s a new fashion-the in vogue thing to do, much like Jenas-everyone needs to someone or something to hate-It’s really strange for me, having a complete hatred of any organized religion, getting battered and having to defend myself and my club for it’s ‘supposed’ religious connections-Fcking Hell The Arsenal and Chelsea are far more Jewish than Spurs , No?

                    • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:48 pm

                      Just like we are supposed to be Bolsheviks or leaders of business etc all of us we are also candle stick makers and fish friiers (not me)
                      Yes there are many Arse and Chelsea Jewish fans. But somehowm it stuck to us.

                    • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:00 pm

                      I was referring to th likes of Abramovic,Dein, and many of the Goon hierarchy-which is funny hearing the Chelsea and Goon fans having a pop at us for being Jewish-for without Jews running their clubs they’d be nothing-they’ve benefited considerably-whereas we’ve just taken all the crap

                    • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 2:42 pm

                      I dont think its to do with that its more that Tottenham supporters started calling ourselves the yids where Chelsea and Arsenal never attached itself that way

          • onedavemackay February 21, 2013 at 2:05 pm

            You are implying that by calling ourselves Yids we are bringing such attacks upon ourselves. You also claim that we have some sort of reputation as a club with violent supporters which is untrue.

            In making such statements you are making excuses for fascist thugs

      • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:25 pm

        ODM thats right!!!!!!!!!

    • Hartley February 21, 2013 at 10:59 am

      Really?

    • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:22 pm

      I totally disagree.We invite it?????????
      Just by going to an away game and going to a pub?????

      • borisjohnsonstonsils February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

        No Ron, I’m not saying we invite it at all, just that reputations proceed sometimes. The British are known to love a scrap & most of the big clubs have firms that travel to European away games. Not implying that those poor buggers in that pub were looking for trouble, just that they were English.

        • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:19 pm

          We all have our experiences.There are the firms and by their nature they invite (and at times get invited) the national front type oraganizations to join them. Violence works for them.
          In general maybe most are kids looking for some fun but that only is part of the story.
          For every Jew and anyone else that has know this in the political sense and has suffered at any level from this would know what it can lead to. Our experiences add into the pot of the way we see it.
          So yes it can be just a bunch of yobs going out for a fight for the purpose of it or it can be more structured with political fascist intentions.

        • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:23 pm

          On the quation of them being targeted because they are English.
          When was the last time that football supporters were attacked because they are English?
          Yes this could be but in both cases they were using anti semetic language.
          They knew what the word Yids meant.
          In Rome they were not just from Lazio,they were from Roma too.Fascist elements.Thats political,not football

    • nobby nobbs February 21, 2013 at 1:48 pm

      sit down shut up you limp dick.

      • borisjohnsonstonsils February 21, 2013 at 1:52 pm

        who :P ondering:

  • onedavemackay February 21, 2013 at 10:40 am

    France has a much bigger Jewish population than the UK and to my knowledge there have been well over 100 arson attacks on Jewish buildings in France in the last 10-12 years

  • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Yesterday I didn’t care about tonights game. Now, I want blood.
    Lets dump these f*ck pigs out of the cup so no-one else has to go there and suffer this pathetic behaviour.

  • melcyid February 21, 2013 at 11:33 am

    I expect after this incident
    last night, the ordere will come down to make sure we are knocked out tonight, 2 pens for them and a red card for us.

    • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:26 pm

      That are not Le Pens are they?

  • WT February 21, 2013 at 11:47 am

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-fans-attacked-lyon-video-1721914?

    ‘You’re Tottenham don’t run’

    It would seem that we are entering a new age of Fascist exstreamisum – some time back, a mate in counter terrorism told me that one day soon, it is believed that a serious attempt will be made to seriously harm fans at the Lane. Think about it. The outside world beleive that THFC is a Jewish enclave! Soon, I beleive, we at the lane will face a ban on the use of the word Yid. They’ll dress it up as provocation or, in its self, racist. We’ll be asked to shrink away into the shadows, like we never existed, forced to live under the anti semantics rock,, hoping that one day, everybody forgets about us ever uttering the name YID.

    I’m not Jewish, and I believe, that if that day comes, and it will – we can do one of two things

    1. agree not to call ourselves Yids, and in turn bow to anti semantic behaviour. ‘ Sorry mr storm trooper,(tap, tap, tap,) but no nasty little yids here, (tap, tap, tap) promise, if I see one though, I’ll be straight on the blower (tap)’

    2 . Fight tooth & nail, and stand, side by side with those Yids who are Yids, and who are once a again being targeted by Nazis.

    ‘You’re Tottenham don’t run’

    • Hartley February 21, 2013 at 11:59 am

      I’m all for option number 2….

    • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 12:00 pm

      It’s painful not running, but well worth it in the end

    • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 12:11 pm

      You cannot fight these people. If we share the violence we share the responsibility and we’re better than that.

      • WT February 21, 2013 at 12:39 pm

        Errr, snivelspur.

        We fight Cancer in different ways. Some of us partake in fun runs. Others wear ribbons and shave our heads, wheras, some study mutations daily and others use scaples. There you go. The word fight, explored just for you snivelspur.

        • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:11 pm

          God do you want to be our manager?
          You’d have that high line working in no time

        • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 1:29 pm

          Not one Spurs supporter was arrested last night. We incited no violence the end result being that we are innocent of any wrong doing. This leaves a very clear-cut case for law enforcement.

          I’m not saying that if some1 is punching you in the face you should smile and thank them. You should defend yourself of course!

          But to insight hatred acknowledges that there is a war in the first place. There is no argument to be had here. We did no wrong. They did. End of story.

          • WT February 21, 2013 at 2:22 pm

            Read the post again -

      • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm

        I have to disagree with that Brizz, pacifism get’s you nowhere-If you can think of any example where doing bugger all ever worked-let me know?

        • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 1:33 pm

          I’m no pacifist.

          One extreme to the other with you is it?

          There is no immediate danger, there was an incident that should be handled delicately. To storm in guns blazing would only instigate further attacks on our supporters. Some of which are vulnerable people.

          • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 1:47 pm

            One extreme or another? Have you ever traveled abroad with Spurs? Clearly not, most times it’s a laugh, other’s it’s an on edge, strange feeling of waiting for it all to kick off and you really need your wits about you-it’s not a simple case of dealing with a few idiots-as in Seville, it was the police and authorities who caused the problem as it was in Milan-and these had nothing to do with our Yid connections-it was the simple fact we were English and Londoners-nothing else!

            • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 1:58 pm

              You called me a pacifist in light of my non-violent alternative. I’d say that was going form one extreme to another. FYI I have traveled abroad for Spurs just not in a mob. I take my nephew to games and my priority is to return him home safely. Not rise to obnoxious piss-heads who think football is a good reason to smack each-other about.

              • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:06 pm

                I was referring to pacifism historically Brizz, and it doesn’t work-If you research any social history, eventually it always comes down to a pitched battle-Cable Street being a good example or more recently the NF marches as already mentioned.

                • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 2:18 pm

                  Ghandi and Martin Luther King spring to mind but thats without really looking.
                  Anyway this is getting off topic I’m not trying to promote unrelenting pacifism. I’m just saying that any retaliation towards last nights mob would only fuel the fire. these guys obviously have nothing worthwhile in their lives otherwise they’d be spending their time doing something else. If we get dragged down with them we risk marring our season with violence and I just don’t see the point. Their idiots, we’re not. More fool them. Lets play football.

                  • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:25 pm

                    There’s the problem, they’ll see it as worthwhile Brizz, they’ll see themselves as protectors of their race, their way of life, avengers of past ignominious defeats etc, all of which is a by-product of idle hands and a poor education-sad yet true

                    • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 2:34 pm

                      I just feel that the only real victim last night was the poor bar owner trying to make a living. This is a problem for Lyon and it’s police. Not us. When they come banging on the doors in North London then we can have our say. But otherwise there is no immediate danger. And we have very little recourse other than to move on and concentrate on our own affairs.

        • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 1:46 pm

          In fact, essex. Last night was the perfect example of doing nothing worked.
          They wanted a fight, they didn’t get one and now they just look like an idiot mob.

          • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 1:52 pm

            3 hurt though, all I’m saying is if someone is trying to give me a hiding, I’m not going to wait for the police to turn up before hitting back-there was no back door in that cafe-nowhere to go-so what else can you do but to stand your ground?

            • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 2:04 pm

              Of course you should stand your ground. I have never nor will ever insinuate that you should weep like a girl and beg for mercy.

              “Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.”

              When people go abroad and involve themselves willingly in violence it puts everyone else in danger of retribution.

              • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:07 pm

                So, you’re not a fan of Gomes then :Cry:

      • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:08 pm

        Essex,its time for you to lead the troops into battle

        • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 1:17 pm

          This is the first season I’ve not traveled abroad watching the lads play,part of me is missing it all-but I have no belief in this league nor really care too much about the outcome to be honest RonWol-It’s a hinderance and will become even more so should we progress tonight

          • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:27 pm

            I think its pretty exciting.Like to see us win it.
            Want to see us for sure 4th as well.
            Think that this cupo (if we dont get more injuries) could put power in our legs not take it away

            • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 1:37 pm

              There’s the rub-If you could assure me they’ll be no injuries and back log of fixtures. That the club will be financially rewarded for their efforts and the football reward would be more than just a repeat performance next season-I too would be up for it-the fact of the matter is it won’t

              • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:41 pm

                Lets put this one away and discuss again.We could always use the people of this site to fill in
                AVB I think is using Brad tonite and so its not beyond him to mix in some of the kids too
                so far we are ok.
                I wouldnt play Bale all night by the way

                • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 1:54 pm

                  nor me, I wouldn’t play Ade, Parker or Dembele either, as Defoe looks like a longer term injury and the other’s are vital for our league games

                  • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 2:45 pm

                    sorry I didnt mean nit use Bale at all this game.I meant not use Bale the whole game.Still I think there is a line we should be careful of not crossing and that is wearing our players out.
                    Still would like to go forward though

      • nobby nobbs February 21, 2013 at 1:51 pm

        Listen pal i remember the NF in the late 70′s and early eighties. It is precisely because people would front em up that their guff was blustered. Do em.

        • Billy Legit February 21, 2013 at 9:33 pm

          :Approve:

    • Jupitus. February 21, 2013 at 12:20 pm

      Football is a sport. With it comes unconciousness wrapped with ignorance. The use of the word Jew is misleading as it does not represent certain parts of Judeism. Its the Ashkenazi Jews one has to watch out for. Their domination of the planet continues through their programming of mankind. The Red Symphony is at work.

      2-1 to the Lillywhites, because they play in the colour white sometimes, or Lillygreys tonight.

      • Hartley February 21, 2013 at 12:26 pm

        We are in White tonight……just so you know.

        • Jupitus. February 21, 2013 at 12:31 pm

          Even better!

      • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:38 pm

        Diabolical crap!Jews have been blamed for being poor,rich,candlestick makers and bakers and cab drivers and owners of corporations and leaders of the Bolshevik revolution.From all over the political spectrum left right and centre.
        Yes we were prominient in civil rights in South Africa and Misssissipi and look now we got shit from the Peter Herberts of this world and on the business strong we are reltively strong not becaiuse of collusion but because of competition.
        I take great offence to that remark.
        Tell me is Abramovich and Levy in collusion and are they communists?

        • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:42 pm

          Is Ronnie Rosenthal a Bolshevik or simply a striker?

          Ok so he wasnt a striker.

          • WT February 21, 2013 at 12:45 pm

            Herotic!!! Try telling Southampton that!

            • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:06 pm

              a Herotic or a heretic. Are you an anti-semantic?

              • WT February 21, 2013 at 2:16 pm

                Herotic, defiantly herotic. The thought of Ronnie in his fur coat, football boots and machine gun at St Mary’s…. Bring it on

                • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 2:38 pm

                  LOL!

      • WT February 21, 2013 at 12:51 pm

        Thanks for the heads up.

        Tell you what, next time there’s 50 or so balaclava’d neo nazis attacking us, we should draw straws and send the shortest out to face them with that information. I reckon, that’ll sort it.

        • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 1:41 pm

          Their intent was to terrorise and provoke. Fortunately the chaps in the bar knew better than to run out into the street where they would of not only had their heads caved in, but the headlines would look a lot different. The whole world wouldn’t be looking at innocent supporters being bullied. they’d see two tribes brawling in the streets.

          I understand that the ordeal has made you angry. It’s made us all angry.
          But an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. There is a bigger picture, if you chose to see it.

          • WT February 21, 2013 at 2:17 pm

            Read my post again and this time take notes. Idiot

            • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 2:27 pm

              :Thinking:

              OK! Here are my notes.

              WT is a small minded little cretin who doesn’t deal with differing points of view well. Upon having his ideas challenged he resorts to name calling and has all the warmth of a dead hookers flange.

              • WT February 21, 2013 at 2:43 pm

                My post was about the word Yid – and it’s role in anti Semitic abuse and violence and how I beleived that on day soon we will be told to drop it!
                1. You do
                2. You don’t

                What’s it to be numb nuts? All very well stating that I will not look at differing points of view – when you clearly haven’t got a fucking clue what I’m talking about in the first place.

                • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 2:50 pm

                  Ok lets cool it guys.No point in briging tribalism to this site.The West Stand vrs the East Stand or the Shelf against the rest.
                  We all come from different experiences.Lets try and have a better understanding of whats happing and then ATTACK!

                  • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 3:56 pm

                    He’s been continuously abusive and condescending from the word go. Insisting that the information that he has is gospel and we simply must act. My only point was that we don’t have a clear and concise understanding of the situation. To me, it’s football and all the ugly that come with it. If we start sounding off as supporters we’ll only facilitate the drama even more.

              • WT February 21, 2013 at 2:47 pm

                Will you fight to keep the word Yid? Or will you pull up your skirt and run…… Twat

                • BrizzleSpur February 21, 2013 at 3:25 pm

                  Strong and bitter words are the sign of a weak cause.
                  You’re so full of hatred that the prospect of having a civilised discussion with you seems impossible. However….
                  I don’t agree that there is any fight to be had wether it’s fist fighting neo-nazis in the street or standing for the word Yid. All I see is people getting riled up about a bunch of idiots smashing up a pub And some black lawyer trying to gain publicity out of the word Yid. There is no immediate threat to our supporters, our club or anything. It’s hysteria. Nothing else. To clarify, my comments as a whole reflect the sentiments of your original post and I perceive you to be ‘making a mountain out of a mole hill’. A paranoid delusional who provides 2 equally pathetic solutions to a non-existent dilemma.
                  I’ll leave it to the Jewish community to decide wether the word ‘Yid’ is acceptable;e. And I shall leave it to the authorities to deal with the yobs in Europe.

  • Frontwheel 2 February 21, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Could this just be a case of some idiot hooligans doing what idiot hooligans do?It would barely have got a mention 30 years ago.

    • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 12:56 pm

      :Who-s-the-man:

    • WT February 21, 2013 at 12:58 pm

      Nah, the nazi salutes and balaclava’s smack of change, but who knows.

      • Jupitus. February 21, 2013 at 1:20 pm

        The salutes were a copy of the Roman salutes used during a touch of empire building.

        • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 1:25 pm

          Yes Hitlers goose steps were just life imitating geese

          • Barry February 21, 2013 at 1:49 pm

            Yea, bankrolled by IBM and Ford just to name a few.

        • WT February 21, 2013 at 2:20 pm

          Yeah, and the swastika was only for good luck, I know. The nazis adopted it from Sesame St.

    • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 12:59 pm

      Yes that could be true.
      No doubt.
      and it also could not.

      I guess its all according to your experience

  • Bruxie February 21, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Thought I’d share the goodies from Darlington 1883 (their new name since administration etc.)

    They are now in the Northern EBAC League – a demotion of five divisions – but still have crowds big enough to set records in the non-league era.

    Darlington Football Club
    Saturday Morning From 10 am Breakfast in a Bun will be available from the catering units and inside the bar area. All will consist of 2 slices of bacon, 2 sausages, egg, black pudding, mushrooms, beans or tomatoes and a scoop of home made chips all served in a tray for £5! Lunch time special in the bar area will be sweet and sour Chicken and chips.

    Don’t you just love it.

    Here’s the link to the league. We just beat Spennymoor who are in more cup competitions than you can shake a stick at.
    Games in hand?
    Pah.

    Only one goes up.

    http://www.northernleague.org/view_div1_tables.php

    • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 12:58 pm

      Someone post this to Enfield Town please

      • Bruxie February 21, 2013 at 2:07 pm

        See you in the Conference!

        • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:11 pm

          Enfield breaks my heart-as a little kid, I just about recall them and Spurs both winning their respetive cups in 1967 and proudly parading them-also went to see ETFC at the lane playing Barnsley in front of a massive crowd although they lost great night and support from the Spurs for their little neighbours

          • minionas February 21, 2013 at 2:28 pm

            Whats the difference between Oscar Pistorius and Real Madrid?

            Pistorius will definately get Bail.

            Plagiarised from Swedespur.

            • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:46 pm

              I think that’s got legs JimLad

              • minionas February 21, 2013 at 4:38 pm

                Wallop!!!

  • Frontwheel 2 February 21, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    About 4 years ago I was caught short for a place to watch a Tottenham game,The game had already started and I had to settle for the nearest pub in Kings Cross.When I got in the whole pub was full of EDL members,crosses of St George everywhere,I got a shock but settled down to watch the game with one ear listening to the chat around me.I left that pub happy with a Spurs victory,but even happier at standard of idiot who joined these things.
    These people should not be Feared or built up in any way,they are thugs who want to belong,even if its a cause they haven’t got a clue about.I would love it if some yids gave them a good hiding,but then again I am a bit of a dinosaur.

    • Django February 21, 2013 at 1:28 pm

      Last night I watch a wild film about the Capuchin monkey’s that had worked out how to open nuts using the force and weight of stones. Incomparison to the EDL types ,I could watch nut cracking all day long.

  • Bruxie February 21, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Could it be the San Siro again for the Boy Bale?

    Inter v Cluj tonight.

    • Bruxie February 21, 2013 at 2:26 pm

      Cluj at home.

      • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 2:27 pm

        Cluj at home?…. only if we win and she’s not got a headache

        • Frontwheel 2 February 21, 2013 at 2:32 pm

          :Happy-Grin:

  • ronwol196061 February 21, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    I have to go to work.Im recording the game.Will also try to check in hereb occasionally.
    Lets keep the killings down especially between our lot.Who needs the other clubs or countries when we cant even talk civilly.

    Wot you want to smash my fucking head in??? WOT????? Fuck you!! Take that for a start mate…and he had the auudacity to say…

    …AGGGGGHHHH IM DYING…..

    • Frontwheel 2 February 21, 2013 at 3:07 pm

      Take an aspirin

  • LLL February 21, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    I see Harry Kane has just joined Leicester on loan. Given the scant numbers in attack, I can only assume this means AVB has very little confidence in him. Although he has signed a new 4 year deal, though that may be to protect his value when we sell him to a championship club. Still, it would seem that there would be some possibility of him getting some minutes between now and the end of the season so it is a bit of an odd one.

    • Frontwheel 2 February 21, 2013 at 4:13 pm

      If I knew you were coming I’d have baked a cake
      baked a cake
      and shared it with PC plod

      • LLL February 21, 2013 at 4:26 pm

        I’m going to bake you a f****** cake and then shove it right up your arse! How’s that for playfully gay? :Happy-Birthday1:

        • Frontwheel 2 February 21, 2013 at 4:31 pm

          :In-Love:

  • TMWNN February 21, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Sounds like a mountain out of a molehill. I bet some will use it for a reason to stop the ‘Yid’ chants, though.

    Thank fuck the Ronny and Baboon show has ended and the football’s up next. This must go down as one of the dullest threads ever.

    BIOYFC!

    • Essexian76 February 21, 2013 at 7:21 pm

      It is now your on here- Raving Queen Canute!

  • WT February 21, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Yeah, totally agree, we have 50, or so, hooded attackers besiege Weatherspoons every lunchtime, screaming ‘kill the Jews’ . Just heard AD, say, on TalkSport, we should show respect when playing in Europe and not sing the Y word. Respect? To who?

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