Date: 30th April 2018 at 10:15am
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Mauricio Pochettino appears hell bent of continuing with his Jose Mourinho ‘pity me’ impressions.

‘It is a new era,’ he told The Daily Mail, ‘We are moving to a different venue and you have to know the expectations because it won’t change everything and rain millions of pounds. I am never going to ask to improve my salary or extend my contract. I decide only the starting XI, I am not Wenger or Ferguson who decide their own future.’

‘In my first meeting with (chairman) Daniel Levy, the target was to arrive in the new stadium and create a team to fight for the top four and play Champions League. The easy thing to do is to give up and say we need to change everything but, no, we must keep going, pushing hard and try again.”

For those of you still in denial, what we have here is some pretty extraordinary framing going on here.

Let’s get a few preliminary issues agreed, before proceeding.

Most of the fanbase understand that the whole point of flattening The Lane and building a 61,000 arena was to put Spurs on the same revenue plane as the established top tier clubs. 

Correct? Correct.

Match day revenues have somewhat become ‘yesterday’s bananas’.

This was proved in the starkest manner during our last season at White Hart Lane, when ticket sales were severely hampered by impinging building works, yet operating profits soared.

So if the turnstiles are playing a decreasing role in the club’s finances, the aim is clearly to amplify margins elsewhere, such as hospitality, catering etc.

Managing the fans expectations is one thing, but this is beyond vague.

The man in row 33 doesn’t care about the uplift in Craft Beer sales, his primary concern is that his seat now costs him £200 more than it did last season, and can he get a good view of us parading a cup from it?

In fact, I get the distinct impression from this and previous comments from Poch that he wants everyone to keep their eye firmly on the ‘building’ birdie and for nobody to get distracted and start asking awkward questions about where they money is going. 

Lord Sugar (he of the phonetic Tweeting fame) didn’t invent the phrase, but is fond of slamming competitors in his grippingly awful TV show The Apprentice by saying ‘You took your eye off the money’.

I submit that Tottenham fans aren’t going to suffer from that particular sight defect, and no matter how plumped and beautifully appointed the seats are in the New Destination™, supporters are going to expect significantly more than watching the Lilywhites ‘compete’.

Poch has frequently let his guard slip to a point whereby he is quite fond of telling fans ‘don’t compare’. 

We now have this new aspect in his quotes where he is distancing himself from impatience.

Last week it was ‘or with another manager’ and this it is ‘I am never going to ask for more money or an extension’.

Not me guv, I just work here.

Whilst THFC is a private business, and there is understandably a limit to what say or influence can be brought to bare by the public, unfortunately for the current owners of the marketing rights, it is also a football club.

Football fans are simple creatures.

We expect simple things.

  1. The team to do its very best.
  2. The owners to do their very best to facilitate 1.

Competing under an unambitious rule of austerity is as dull as it reads, and it is to the gaffer’s eternal credit that despite the restraints he has done this well.

Fans are emotional investors and they can see that we really aren’t that far from doing more than being ‘nearly men’.

This is especially in light of the fact that their eye wateringly prices seats are making less and less of an impact on the business overall.

THFC can’t tax the fans and not improve the product.

The product by the way, is the football.

Does Pochettino sense an almost inevitable fall out?

The Argentinian didn’t enjoy the FA cup at all.

Mauricio was incredibly frustrated at having to play extra games against Rochdale and Newport, and ultimately it was all for nought as his character and his integrity were questioned after the loss to Manchester United.

How will this season be any better? 

Will Spurs spend? No.

Will Spurs retain? No.

If the manager isn’t convinced, why on earth would anyone else be?

 
Comments
  • legoverlass April 30, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/317619/response/771910/attach/4/KPMGviabilityreport.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1(courtesy of Freund or Foe)

    Fascinating read. Information may already be out of date however, in summary, the IRR is 1.2% and 2% if residential development profit receipts are factored in.(no affordable housing as unviable)These are both far lower than the investment market looks for at 10% for debt funding for stadia builds. There is a funding gap between the cost of construction and the secured funding to date which the owners (ENIC) are not prepared to underwrite. The funding gap is dependant on stadium naming and cornerstone rights yet to be agreed and at the date the letter was written did not include the NFL deal which I suspect was a lot smaller than Levy had hoped for. 45% of incremental stadium revenues calculated at £30 million (£13million) to be used to support increased squad salaries. HOWEVER…. if funding shortfalls exist then transfer budgets,salaries will be restrained to assist in the payment of the funding gap. Bottom line is that the owners are property developers using a football club to develop land assets and who are restricting the growth of the football business to sustain the growth of the property business. This is the real meaning of what Pooch is saying when he says we are in a different project. Our main competitors are football business-centric focused and we are not. That is why we fold in important games because everyone at the club players included knows this and so the business of football is not the single-minded be all and end all that creates winning clubs and teams.

  • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 1:31 pm
  • Accy April 30, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    I’ve a very bad feeling that SIssoko and Aurier will still be here come 1st Septmber.

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 1:40 pm

      Someone needs to want them.

  • East Stand April 30, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    A spot on appraisal.

    Several posters turned on me last night for suggesting exactly the same outlook after moving into the new place and for expressing how unimpressed I was at whole idea.

    Glad you’ve spelt it out clearly HH. There are many amongst us in denial about the true levels of ambition ENIC have for the team on the pitch.

    No Poch and we’re 7th pure and simples, regardless of the cheese shop and brewery…

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 30, 2018 at 1:22 pm

      Yes, and its created a division in the support. I’ve noticed begginings of it an itl esculate. Fans always argue about team selection, players etc but these are fundamental issues in the football club. Arsenal have had it, and its happening here curtiousy of the owners.

    • ronwol96061 April 30, 2018 at 1:25 pm

      Putz.

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 1:31 pm

      Kick ’em in the nuts and run, next time

  • DAVID April 30, 2018 at 12:47 pm

    Interesting dynamic between Poch and Levy,if Poch walks can he get a better job, if Levy sacks him can he find a better manager ?
    Who blinks first ?

    • SpurAndy 🍒π April 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm

      Interesting dynamic. Poch and Levy clearly get on well together, as far as we can tell anyway. I’d imagine levy would be
      sorry to see him go and would try and persuade him to stay. In that regard Poch has a bit of leverage as Ron is often saying, but imo only a bit. If Poch makes an ultimatum then levy will probably pull the trigger before Poch can close the door. Levy is the boss and any danger to his authority would be quickly stamped on. As good as Poch has been there’s always good managers out there who would be tempted by a team regularly in the CL.

      • Horndog April 30, 2018 at 1:15 pm

        Could another manager get this group into the CL? That is a real question.

        • East Stand April 30, 2018 at 1:32 pm

          Not many Horny.

        • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 1:32 pm

          Highly debatable.

          • East Stand April 30, 2018 at 1:34 pm

            Perhaps but the nursery school environment is suited to Poch, to be fair.

      • East Stand April 30, 2018 at 1:15 pm

        Poch is going along with it but he’s keen to let people know about the financial constraints he’s working under. That means he enriches his reputation and does god job.

        I don’t see him making excuses for ENIC, he’s just saying this is the environment in which me and my staff work and we are doing better than expected. He’s not a yes man, only a man of integrity.

        Anyone saying he should “stand up to Levy” is a deluded fool…

        • SpurAndy 🍒π April 30, 2018 at 1:22 pm

          Agree with that East.

        • Gus April 30, 2018 at 1:23 pm

          +2.

        • DAVID April 30, 2018 at 1:25 pm

          Just because someone has a different viewpoint to yours doesn’t make them an idiot or deluded fool.
          Thinking your always right and actually being always right are very different things.

          • ronwol96061 April 30, 2018 at 1:27 pm

            Well said David.

            • East Stand April 30, 2018 at 1:31 pm

              Please explain how you think ‘standing up to Levy and ENIC would pan out?

              If you think it would end in anything other than either a souring of their relationship or a parting of ways, then yes you’re deluded…

              • ronwol96061 April 30, 2018 at 1:54 pm

                Dont be a schmuck!!!

                • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 2:03 pm

                  We’re on the new blog Ron

        • ronwol96061 April 30, 2018 at 1:30 pm

          Are you with the communist government where everybody and nobody has a say?
          Poch is in the only position who has the power who can move this situation.

          • East Stand April 30, 2018 at 1:32 pm

            No he isn’t Ron. That’s my point.

            • East Stand April 30, 2018 at 1:47 pm

              And my opinion, despite what you accuse me of you are entitled to yours. We are all entitled to that but, really, is Levy man to change course? Not for me.

  • Gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 12:42 pm

    Ronwol196061
    Poch has the leverage because if Poch left where would that leave us???
    What would Levy do?
    Who will he get as a replacement and what would they want.
    Here with this lot he is getting into the CL (it seems) change is and thats a lot of extra dough down the drain so why not invest it now. Levy want until he is pushed. You wouldnt think Levy was a poker player would you?
    Poch has the cards. Maybe not all of them but he thinks Levy has a full house. Poch is sitting there with two pair and Levy has a King high

    Poch behaves as if he hasn’t got a pair swinging between his legs.

    • Horndog 🇺🇸 April 30, 2018 at 12:43 pm

      perhaps Poch should follow my lead.

    • Camus April 30, 2018 at 12:43 pm

      What would Levy do?
      Blink, hire Spalletti / Klinsmann / Eddie Howe / Dyche and take the lead role in ‘Carry On Up Profit Mountain’…

      • Gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 12:49 pm

        Howe would be likely. Cheap, grateful, young, that sort of thing.

        • Camus April 30, 2018 at 12:53 pm

          Yes, a good shout.
          My money would be on Klinsmann though – the old ‘club hero’ card.
          He’s applauding every new stadium video etc a little too enthusiastically…

    • East Stand April 30, 2018 at 1:11 pm

      Poch is sticking to his job description decided with Levy and Lewis a few years ago.

      He’s delivered over and above what they expected, he gets on with his job and doesn’t want to be a trouble maker and derail the good he has done. He has to accept it, they are his bosses.

      I would remind people that they aren’t our bosses, WE pay THEM.

      We are the equivalent of the tax payer expecting better public services with ever rising duty and taxes, ENIC are the government trying to explain where it’s all going.

      It’s not going on the team, the team is a (self sustaining) trading floor, the squad has value as an asset and bits are bought and sold so they don’t need funding from elsewhere. It’s the zero net spend model and the new stadium changes nothing.

      As a result, the new stadium was indeed built for non-footballing reasons…

      • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 1:42 pm

        In this analogy the money isn’t being spent on better services, but bigger shiny new offices, and a larger waiting room.

  • Caspurs♿️ April 30, 2018 at 12:33 pm

    Horndog 🇺🇸
    Gadzooks, I wanted to wake up smiling about a pending dismantling of Watford. Instead I am reading about the end off the world as I know it. I think I will have a wank.

    Harry Hotspur
    For chrissakes don’t wank in that sink…

    MysteriousStranger
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    Too late….

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 12:34 pm

      That’s the boy…

      • Horndog 🇺🇸 April 30, 2018 at 12:39 pm

        😂

  • Gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 12:32 pm

    More political ghastliness.

    Will people be fooled?

    Rudd goes, and May surprises all commentators by appointing Sajid Javid to become Home Secretary. The first BAME politician to hold one of the great offices of government.

    When May became Prime Minister she demoted Javid to Housing minister from Business Secretary. But suddenly, in the middle of the Windrush scandal he is the best thing since sliced bread.

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 12:35 pm

      Another bald weirdo

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 12:39 pm

      State of him

      • Gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 12:42 pm

        Man at C&A.

        • Gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 12:43 pm

          (one for the kids) 😁

          • Camus April 30, 2018 at 12:51 pm

            Safe to say the appointment is going down *well* with everyone on social media… 😆

      • Tappaspur April 30, 2018 at 12:55 pm

        Give him a chance to do nothing man

      • MysteriousStranger April 30, 2018 at 2:04 pm

        Why’s he got his legs splayed out like that?

  • Horndog 🇺🇸 April 30, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    Gadzooks, I wanted to wake up smiling about a pending dismantling of Watford. Instead I am reading about the end off the world as I know it. I think I will have a wank.

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 12:31 pm

      For chrissakes don’t wank in that sink…

      • DAVID April 30, 2018 at 12:32 pm

        Too late! Get the baby wipes.

        • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 12:34 pm

          😄

  • TyredMan 🚯 April 30, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    COYFS!!

  • ronwol96061 April 30, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    Unsuccessful football team

    Manager leaves

    Stars leave

    Less fans

    White Elephant

    • Freund or Foe April 30, 2018 at 12:12 pm

      Don’t forget the sink hole ;-D

      • Caspurs♿️ April 30, 2018 at 12:19 pm

        • MysteriousStranger April 30, 2018 at 12:25 pm

  • Scott April 30, 2018 at 11:58 am

    Agree totally H
    We are in such a strong position to move forward and everyone appears to be able to see it other than Levy.

    I doubt the man in row 33 will see any cups until this mob have sold up.

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 12:33 pm

      The man in row 33 should get home in time to see his wife hurling the last of possessions out of a window – as she has just found out how much he is spending on ‘just nipping out to the football’.

  • Tappaspur April 30, 2018 at 11:58 am

    How much do hotels cost? Oh and fuck mace.

  • Ronwol196061 April 30, 2018 at 11:47 am

    Poch has the leverage because if Poch left where would that leave us???
    What would Levy do?
    Who will he get as a replacement and what would they want.
    Here with this lot he is getting into the CL (it seems) change is and thats a lot of extra dough down the drain so why not invest it now. Levy want until he is pushed. You wouldnt think Levy was a poker player would you?
    Poch has the cards. Maybe not all of them but he thinks Levy has a full house. Poch is sitting there with two pair and Levy has a King high

  • Tappaspur April 30, 2018 at 11:45 am

    C’mon THFT (TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR FOOTBALL TEAM) win a game of FOOTBALL later. Fuck the rest of it. THFT.

    • Tappaspur April 30, 2018 at 11:47 am

      THFT” bit too close to THeFT

  • caveman April 30, 2018 at 11:44 am

    There is ABSOLUTELY no way a building project that was priced at £450m could end up at £900m. With today’s pricing ‘cross checks’ and constant comparing prices with suppliers that’s impossible. There’s no way MACE would have estimated a build of £450m over a two year period, factoring in all eventualities plus contingencies and drop that big of a bollock. They would have been responsible for extras not attributed to the client.
    So all these unexplained extras don’t wash. There’s no fall out between Mace and ENIC appearing in any construction magazines (not a chirp) so there’s a duffel bag somewhere that is full of money and Levy knows all about it or it is earmarked to build residential or other additions. Why no one is shouting from the rafters (from the building industry media) is beyond me. Levy is telling lies. I don’t believe their account reporting. It’s just no possible for the stadium cost to double no matter what changes Levy is making.

    • Caspurs♿️ April 30, 2018 at 11:58 am

      It was priced at £450m 10 years ago Cavey, which was the original 56k KSS designed stadium. If you factor in inflation, a new larger stadium design, and Brexit, then there was no way that it was ever going to cost £450m.

      • ronwol96061 April 30, 2018 at 12:02 pm

        So what is another 100 mil.

      • caveman April 30, 2018 at 12:06 pm

        I read that the Popoulas design was to cost £450m. That was towards the end of 2015.

        • caveman April 30, 2018 at 12:08 pm

          In fact I’m sure MACE signed a £450m contract.

          • Caspurs♿️ April 30, 2018 at 12:16 pm

            Mace didn’t sign anything like that, they weren’t prepared to take on the risk (no company would) of a fixed construction price considering the logistics of a build such as this.

        • Freund or Foe April 30, 2018 at 12:10 pm
          • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 12:20 pm

            Here we go, some facts. Thank you madam.

            • Freund or Foe April 30, 2018 at 12:23 pm

        • Caspurs♿️ April 30, 2018 at 12:13 pm

          I can’t remember the breakdown of the build cost , but as I understand it the final figures being bandied around are by the press are misleading. The costs we are being told about also include the ground works (hotel) and additional buildings. I cannot remember if the figures being suggested include the construction of phase 3.
          I will see if I can find out.

          • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 12:19 pm

            This is spot on. The press didn’t nuance the breakdown and we kept being given the same out of date info.

  • Accy April 30, 2018 at 11:32 am

    Maybe in 4 years’ time we can stop recycling the Bale money. That’s when we will know the project has been a success.

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:33 am

      That’s when we start recycling the Kane money?

  • VincentianMagic April 30, 2018 at 11:31 am

    If Toby goes, who do we bring in? I like the young kid at Ajax and he will be a very good player – but at £40M or so represents a risk as the PL is a step up.

    Lascalles is decent and Tarkowski at Burnley has performed very well. Mawson fits the ‘ball-playing’ CB that Poch likes, but sometimes seems to switch off.

    As for Rose replacements I think Bertrand is a solid LB and actually better suited than Sessegnon, who may end up being world-class but is nowhere near good enough defensively at the moment.

    Further up the field, Zaha is playing well and when on form is a handful, but is he consistent enough? Dembele at Celtic hasn’t played as much this season but could offer us a mobile CF who knows where the net is.

    All of the above have their merits but are not the very top level players that we ideally should be looking at to take us to the next level…

    …so expect us to sign a couple then.

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:36 am

      Sessegnon is turning into Bale Mk 2. I’d suggest he wouldn’t consider himself restricted to defensive duties, so maybe you’re correct, but I never like buying players from relegated teams. Sissoko syndrome.

  • Ronwol196061 April 30, 2018 at 11:28 am

    The only one I though who had leverage on Levy would have been Poch but it seems its the other way around. But look he could be like a battered wife who takes it till he doesnt.

    Is Poch bright? Thats another question. I mean he did read the Book of Bielsa once and he did come up with some kind of plan. So maybe he is.

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:31 am

      If he’s bright Ronwol, he’ll have other plans up his sleeve.

      Fergie’s business card.

      • ronwol96061 April 30, 2018 at 11:58 am

        What to be Mourinhos assistant?

  • Ronwol196061 April 30, 2018 at 11:25 am

    Harry Hotspur
    “>
    It’s not your future mate, it’s your wedding vegetables 😂

    This tells the whole story. Poch should be demanding what he needs.

    But look maybe he has. And maybe he has what he needs.

    • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:29 am

      Or maybe he made his demands and Daniel told him what he had to work with. The man had to make a decision and he has

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:30 am

      Poch is demanding, and Daniel is telling him he’s spend the lot for the next 20 years.

      • Ronwol196061 April 30, 2018 at 11:36 am

        Gus and Gloster while Poch may have sported a great big bandana at one time and a gladiator spirit, has he succumbed to the little bald mans resistance?
        The fact is he is the only one that can wield his power as we are on the edge of the new stadium and Levy has to sell tickets.
        Just like Poch tells ever opposing team how great they are before a game and how difficult our task will be,here he is handing the keys to Levy.

        Fergie,Mourinho,Pep…what would they have done?

        • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:38 am

          It could be the money isn’t there and Levy has shown Poch the bank overdraft to prove it. We’re in big debt now.

          • Ronwol196061 April 30, 2018 at 11:42 am

            It doesnt matter.This is Levys game not Pochs. Poch could force this issue.He got a house right near Joe’s in the Bahamas the rumour goes. Maybe he wants to tell them to shove it if he doesnt get what he needs to be successful. Infact he can tell Joe to his face.
            Its a critical time in a lot of ways but Joe has the money if it gets tight and Poch has the power that he doenst know he has (and nor do most of you)

  • Accy April 30, 2018 at 11:21 am

    Poch made some reference or other to being 4 years ahead of schedule in ‘the project.’ And that we should arrive in a good place in another 4 years.

    So exactly what happens in 4 years’ time, then? eh?

    What will signify the culmination of ‘the project?’

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:24 am

      The aliens take over Earth.

      • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:24 am

        The stadium is their landing site.

        • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:25 am

          The stadium is the ship!

          • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:29 am

            It’s the Ark.
            You booked your place of salvation?

    • Ronwol196061 April 30, 2018 at 11:29 am

      Where does Klopps timing come into all of this???

  • Aussie in Switzerland April 30, 2018 at 11:13 am

    Any news on Salah getting a ban, seems worse than Dele’s 6 week ban, so expect no action from FA

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:20 am

      Harry Kane was last seen texting Azza Blud asking him if he could recommend any good motorways to walk along side of…

  • TrentSpur April 30, 2018 at 11:12 am

    Poch is sounding like and has the demeanour of someone that’s had a conversation with DL about transfers, and been told the awful truth.

    I expect him to walk during the summer.

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:18 am

      Koch told us that Jan was quiet because deals took forever and it was this summer was the one.

      I agree with you and he’s been told he can sell 3 players, but the stadium costs will need whatever whatever Toby goes for, and he can spend the rest.

      Expect a lot more game time for Sissoko next season.

      • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:23 am

        Thinking back, the lending institutions already have a financial charge on future income from areas such as sponsorship deals and wasn’t it also on season ticket income? I don’t think Levy has much if any room for manoeuvre with these increased costs. He’s already hocked to the eyeballs. No wonder he doesn’t sleep, fire sale territory.

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:19 am

      When Levy gently informs Pochettino they’ll have to work hard on Llorente’s game because we desperately need to sell Harry Kane on the bank’s instructions…

      • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:20 am

        🍻

  • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:10 am

    It’s not your future mate, it’s your wedding vegetables 😂

    • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:12 am

      Eunuchs R us

  • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:04 am

    No one break it to Ronwol that his business hero Daniel is actually a fraud. Someone who just got lucky at his timing in taking over Spurs. Anyone seriously think Alan Sugar would have sold them club if he had known how massively TV revenues were going to shoot up? No.

    Levy’s success is built on something outside of his control. His scattergun approach to hiring managers and pot shot transfer history indicates that this isn’t someone in control of his business.

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:06 am

      And the horrendous stadium costs are a disaster waiting to happen and may yet require a fire sale of player assets.

      Anyone mention Leeds yet?

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:06 am

      He’s a fucking competition winner.

      • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:09 am

        Spent on a shiny stadium that could sink us.

        • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:11 am

          Scrap Audere Est Facere…

          ‘All Fur Coat And no Knickers’

    • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:10 am

      I don’t know which is worse, the false idea that Levy hasn’t spent money, or the fact that he spunked the Bale money and bought a whole bunch of other dross like Sissy and the French kids when a real football man like Mitchell could have done some business that might have taken us over the hump these last few years 🙁

  • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:01 am

    Tappaspur
    I’m sure davies aint on much more. And we wanna win things 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 you win nothing with shit players

    If you pay peanuts you get a team full of monkeys

    • Sexy Beast April 30, 2018 at 11:16 am

      🙈

      • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:18 am

        I see Hugo, where are the others?

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:18 am

      Not sure you can say that on the BBC

      • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:20 am

        Not without someone getting triggered

  • Still Nil Nil April 30, 2018 at 11:00 am

    At a press conference, do you expect any manager to come out and rant about all the negatives surrounding their club?

    Or project some kind of spin?

    Poch isn’t alone in this.

    And any manager that has decided to opt for that option wasn’t sitting in the managers seat at the next press conference, at least not for that club anyway.

    Poch needs spurs as much as spurs need poch at this particular moment in time

    • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:03 am

      ‘Arry used to try and make Daniel look bad, look what happened to him….

      • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:04 am

        Arry always sounded as if Daniel wasn;t returning his calls – which was true 😂

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:03 am

      This latest presser is more about a distinct change in his tone.

      This managing expectations thing should come from Levy, not the football manager. Koch has zero control over money etc.

      He sounds a bit jaded.

      • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:07 am

        Banging your head against a wall will do that to you. Didn’t he leave Espanyol once they sold off all his best players? Not saying he will but…..

        • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 11:11 am

          He might.

          • gus April 30, 2018 at 11:13 am

            Exactement

      • SpurAndy 🍒π April 30, 2018 at 11:42 am

        I think there’s a lot of peeps on here who sound a bit jaded. What we need is a but of ☀ and warmth and a hatfull of goals tonight to improve the vibe.

  • VincentianMagic April 30, 2018 at 10:57 am

    I’m also becoming increasingly concerned that Poch is bracing himself for a fall-out as well. I like Poch but he just comes across as spinning a PR line about continuing to try and make the top four and bed-in to the new WHL.

    The crazy member prices allied to the monies from the CL and finishing in the top four needs to be spent on the squad, and ideally on quality players for the first XI.

    If the build costs, etc, have really risen that much then someone has got their maths extremely wrong, and perhaps Levy ain’t all that after all – particularly as finance is the main area that everyone states he is great at.

    I can understand Rose, Llorente, N’cluedo andJansen departing as they are either wanting out or not good enough IMO. I believe we should cut our losses on Aurier also as he is too much of a liability.

    Toby should be offered a new contract (3-4 years min) and made Vice-Capt. Verts should be made captain. If this upsets Lloris then get rid

    Our youth team is ok, but very little progress seems to happen with respect to players stepping up, so I would seriously question what is occurring as we have great facilities designed to produce genuine home-grown talent. Perhaps we need a revamp regarding the set-up in this area. The only player I see as being capable and having the right cahones is Walker-Peters, who I personally believe is already no worse than Aurier. I actually think Foyth would be ok at RB also.

    Anyway, I digress – ENIC need to reinforce the squad this summer and show some ambition. If they don not, they will continue to loose fans, to be the nearly men, the chokers and in 12 months time, will probably be shorn of their best assets on the pitch.

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:02 am

      The ST prices are the first round of machine gun fire.

      Wait until we’ve been pounded by ENICs heavy artillery – the Generak Admission Prices…

      • VincentianMagic April 30, 2018 at 11:09 am

        For a club that has made considerable strides the last couple of years, I still have a sinking feeling. Guess that’s what being a Spurs supporter is all about.

        I’ll be honest, the prices and a relocation mean that I do not and probably will not be attending home games. I’ve found myself wandering further and further into Rugby League, which is cheap as chips in comparison and a cracking evening out with most fans good as gold.

        The world of football seems tarnished in recent years by the sheer gluttony of cash thrown at it – it’s just lost its soul IMO. The goings on at Spurs have done nothing to convince me that this is going to change anytime soon; but at least the City’s and Utd’s of this world spend big and go for it.

        I’ve digressed again dagnammit!

  • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 10:54 am

    Pochettino seems much calmer dealing with league fixtures where not everything hinges on the outcome of a single match. The marathon, not the sprint. He doesn’t seem to like these one off games where he can be defeated by an opposing manager with superior tactics or a more flexible approach.

    Some managers relish the ‘do or die’ of a cup tie. Poch clearly hates them.

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:56 am

      He doesn’t sound particularly enamoured with having to play Watford!

  • Camus April 30, 2018 at 10:53 am

    We can’t even get excited about someone like Zaha arriving, lads.
    He earns more than our lot at Crystal Palace! 😆

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 30, 2018 at 10:49 am

    Its the way he talks about the CL targets like we’ve broken new ground. Redknapp had us top 4 2 out of 3 and but for a dodgy batch of lasagne JOL would av had us top 4 too.

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:54 am

      The value of CL ‘achievements’ like ours is what ultimately lost Wenger his job.

      Seriously, this ‘look how far we’ve come’ guano is tedious and only the virgins are applauding it.

      My dog could run Spurs as successfully as Levy has. The money sloshing about is surreal.

      And this clown has just pissed a billion up the wall.

      • Camus April 30, 2018 at 10:55 am

        Who is it all for?
        I still don’t know.
        A shiny monument for the tourists?

        • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:58 am

          I couldn’t tell you.

          I knew that turnstile cash was less important these days, but not until the numbers came out was it obvious that they should let people in for buttons.

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 30, 2018 at 12:28 pm

          Alot of people are genuinely enamoured by the ugly great thing. The words “immense” and “shiney” are common on footage I’ve seen. This is another thing that owners like ENIC create…..division in the fan base. See Arsenal again for a taster.

  • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:48 am

    gloster1861

    How did the cost shoot up so much?

    Did the quantity surveyor get it wrong? Wasn’t the land bought and paid for in advance? Were we paying massive amounts of overtime to get it finished in time? I hadn’t noticed particularly bad weather causing undue delays?

    It seems the project manager must have screwed up badly. Isn’t that Daniel Levy? Why is he getting a big increase in salary for bringing in the stadium massively over budget?

    These projects always spiral out of control. Unless there’s a confession forthcoming it probably isn’t any one person’s fault.

    Mind you, Levy has been project managing it 😂

  • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 10:47 am

    How did the cost shoot up so much?

    Did the quantity surveyor get it wrong? Wasn’t the land bought and paid for in advance? Were we paying massive amounts of overtime to get it finished in time? I hadn’t noticed particularly bad weather causing undue delays?

    It seems the project manager must have screwed up badly. Isn’t that Daniel Levy? Why is he getting a big increase in salary for bringing in the stadium massively over budget?

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 10:48 am

      Could it force an early sale of the stadium? Please.

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 10:49 am

      Of course, making costly provision for whatsoever far is only 20 NFL games must have made this an expensive gamble.

      • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:51 am

        And, at the time that bone was snatched by Dicko, there was no mention of Wembers being sold to a ravenous capitalist billionaire who will turn it into an NFL hub.

        Levy’s lost his USP, overcharged his customers and is also a bald weirdo.

        It’s a great time to be alive 😆😆😆

        • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 10:59 am

          Add to that the Telegraph scoop that Khan started negotiating over buying Wembley in 2015, and it would be obvious that the NFL would have been aware of that development, and yet Levy was lured on in thinking he would have the only show in town.

          • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 11:06 am

            If Levy knew (he 100% did not) then he would’ve never got on the plane to New York, and he would never have listened to whatever schmuck showed him the Retractible Pitch brochure.

  • Tappaspur April 30, 2018 at 10:34 am

    Our first choice right back is on £30k a week 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    • Tappaspur April 30, 2018 at 10:35 am

      I’m sure davies aint on much more. And we wanna win things 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 you win nothing with shit players

      • Caspurs♿️ April 30, 2018 at 10:39 am

        So Wigan didn’t win the FA Cup against citeh, and nor did Portsmouth against the arse?

        • Tappaspur April 30, 2018 at 10:40 am

          So. I’m talking premier league. We all know cup games can be nicked.

  • Camus April 30, 2018 at 10:29 am

    I’m a bit confused by Poch’s last line.
    “Try again” – for what?
    He’s essentially saying he’s delivered the objectives he was given.

    On a side note, I notice he makes no mention of wanting to win trophies.
    What happened to the ‘I am a winner’ spiel from earlier in the season?
    Now it’s just “I try”, “we try”…

    I don’t like Star Wars but didn’t that little green goblin say something like
    “Do or do not. There is no try…”?

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:40 am

      To Dare Is To…

      1. Watch the bottom line
      2. Realise the FA cup won’t change your life
      3. Charge more
      4. Know all the players are so happy
      5. All of the above

      • Camus April 30, 2018 at 10:50 am

        There’s a snappy t-shirt design in there somewhere!

        • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:54 am

          he he he he he

    • gloster1861 April 30, 2018 at 10:43 am

      Yes, that confused me.

      I reckon he’s off in the not too distant future.

      • Camus April 30, 2018 at 10:47 am

        Wouldn’t surprise me, Glos.

        • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:55 am

          He doesn’t sound like the bloke that said a week ago, ‘all my projects I think I stay forever’

  • Ronan April 30, 2018 at 10:28 am

    Tottenham facing up to reality check as stadium costs escalate

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/30/tottenham-reality-check-stadium-costs-escalate-mauricio-pochettino

    “. . . In December Mauricio Pochettino expressed a belief that when Tottenham move into their new stadium next season, “It would be time to say: ‘Now, we will win the title.’” The theory was that increased revenues would help the club to attract and keep the A-list players.

    But when he addressed the press before Monday’s game against Watford, there was a shift in his stance. Stadium construction costs have risen from £400m to £850m, and nobody would be surprised at a final figure of a billion. Tottenham have taken out £400m in bank loans, which are repayable over a five-year period. Whichever way you dress it up, there is a lot of money to find. No wonder the chairman Daniel Levy * “struggles to sleep at night” * , according to Pochettino.

    “The move to the new stadium is not suddenly going to change everything,” Pochettino said. “You have to manage and know exactly the expectations.”

    Any incoming signings this summer will need to fit into Levy’s wage structure, which is capped at a basic £100,000 a week. Although not for the chairman himself. He earns an annual £6m or £115,000 a week.

    It will be difficult to find too many players who would improve Pochettino’s best XI and be happy to sign for, say, £60,000 to £70,000 a week, which is the threshold for many of his starters. One example is Wilfried Zaha, who earns more than £120,000 a week at Crystal Palace.

    . . . Have Tottenham been stronger this season without Walker or, indeed, Alderweireld, who has been marginalised? One thing that can be said for certain is that the club’s players will have noted how Walker has trebled his salary at City and won the title. Could they do one or both at Tottenham? For Pochettino, the balancing act does not get any easier. . . “

    • Camus April 30, 2018 at 10:33 am

      Those last 2 paragraphs are a real vibe killer for Levy.
      Thanks for sharing, Ronan.

      • Ronan April 30, 2018 at 10:50 am

        👍

      • caveman April 30, 2018 at 11:23 am

        He didn’t share. That was a cut and paste from the Guardian!

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:37 am

      It will deffo be over a billion.

      These are the final furlongs were the awkward conversations about ‘unexpected’ this and ‘regrettable’ that will start getting flagged up.

      We’re not spending and not retaining.

      So in short, we’re dicking about.

    • Harry Hotspur April 30, 2018 at 10:46 am

      This will make tough reading for anyone still confused about ‘market rate’.

      Levy’s painted himself into a corner here and it won’t endear him to Levy that he’s playing the ‘I just work here’ card.

      Old Daniel thought he’d got someone to share the abuse with for a few months there. That didn’t last ling, did it?!

      • Ronan April 30, 2018 at 10:48 am

        To know Levy’s now struggling to sleep at night be testing Poch’s inner calm about the future of the project.

        • Ronan April 30, 2018 at 12:05 pm

          *must be

  • Tappaspur April 30, 2018 at 10:25 am

    Got me FREE Newcastle ticket. Up yours levy! 🙂

  • Camus April 30, 2018 at 10:24 am

    Winner