Date: 15th February 2018 at 1:02pm
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The VAR system has been met with a fair amount or rumbling and grumbling. So I felt that the view of a professional might be worth throwing into the mix…

Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho feels the Video Assistant Referee system needs “adjustments” but likes the idea of it yielding “fair” decisions.

Asked for his views on VAR, Mourinho told MUTV: “When people ask us if we like it, if we don’t like it, if we agree with it or don’t agree with it, I think honestly it’s a question for the referees.

“They want to perform the best they can, they don’t like to make mistakes. And sometimes they make mistakes because it’s a human mistake and you cannot go over it unless you have some technological support.

“So if the referees are happy with that technological support, then yes, let’s go for the VAR. I think, from my perspective, I like the feeling.”

“Of course they need adjustments. They need to make sure that they don’t change the dynamic of the game too much, the emotion of the game too much – people waiting a couple of minutes to know if they can jump (and celebrate) because it was a goal.

“But from my professional perspective, I like the feeling of a right decision is coming. It’s a penalty or not a penalty, it’s handball or not handball, it’s a red card or not a red card. I think a fair decision is a feeling that I like.”

The VAR system took centre-stage during the Liverpool-West Brom clash on January 27, with it being used three times in the first half, including the first time in English football that a referee used a pitchside television replay.

Although it eventually led to correct decisions being made, questions were asked about the process, particularly the amount of time it took.

PA Sport
 
Comments
  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?

  • TyredMan 🚯 February 15, 2018 at 7:55 pm

    I like it.

  • David Dillenberg February 15, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    One of the panelists is Harvard Law School, David Lammy MP for Tottenham is on QT this eve from Yeovil (author of the Lammy Review into the treatment and outcomes of BAME offenders in the justice system)

    Other panelists are the Conservatve’s Theresa Villiers MP, former secretary of state for Northern Ireland,

    Richard Walker, managing director, Iceland Foods,

    Faiza Shaheen, director of CLASS (Centre for Labour and Social Studies)

    and Camilla Cavendish, former head of policy for David Cameron.

    • SpurAndy 🍒π February 15, 2018 at 4:59 pm

      Thanks for that DD, I look forward to missing it.

    • Harry Hotspur February 15, 2018 at 5:09 pm

      DD why do you actually watch QT, mate?

    • Mad Carew February 15, 2018 at 5:10 pm

      Sir Malcolm Walker (Richards Dad) said 5 years ago he wouldn’t eat cheap food because there’s little meat in them and god knows what else, then 2 years later Horse was found in Iceland Burgers. Dick must be pushing the Plastic Pledge.

  • Mad Carew February 15, 2018 at 4:45 pm
  • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    Still waiting for Barca to join the PL.

    What happened to Catalonian independence?

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 4:10 pm

    Topic on talk sport: Should PSG join Premier League? Underhanded drip feeding euro super league type ideas into public conscienceness.

    • OrganicPaper February 15, 2018 at 4:22 pm

      FFS….seriously!?
      Under what justification can any one argue that!

      The Euro Super League with robot refs and mandatory haircuts is but a step away.

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 4:27 pm

        Its actually insane what I’m hearing. Its trffic City winning 5-0 every week. I know?! Let’s put PSG in then they can win 5-0 every week too. That makes the league healthier and more appealing!??😲😲😲

        • OrganicPaper February 15, 2018 at 4:33 pm

          The EPL is the most exciting league in the world. The TV revenue alone tells us this, let alone the competitiveness of the league where Leicester can win a title and Swansea can beat Liverpool etc etc…
          So I do not understand why people are so hell bent on changing the formula that created this situation. Madness.
          TalkShite is at its peak of shitness at 4pm. Worth remembering that!

          • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 4:37 pm

            The reason he’s giving is the money is down and the product is on the wane. But that ain’t even close to an answer. I think the Prem is getting more like La Liga etc more and more. We need the likes of Leeds Utd, Sheff Wed, Nottm Forest etc healthy and thriving I think. That’l bring it to the boil. It seems every big club outside the elite has been ridiculously mismanaged and kept impotent.

    • David Dillenberg February 15, 2018 at 4:23 pm

      IMO both Celtic and Glasgow Rangers should join the PL.

      • OrganicPaper February 15, 2018 at 4:26 pm

        I can see justification due to the Welsh teams that compete in English leagues.

        However –
        1 – would destroy Scottish football
        2- Why Rangers and not anyone else (Celtic are the top dogs so I can see why them)
        3 – Where in the pyramid do the enter..?

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 4:31 pm

          I blame Jimmy Hill for all of this.

          • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 4:33 pm

            I blame William Hill

            • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 4:38 pm

              😀

            • Melcyid February 15, 2018 at 4:50 pm

              Benny hill

          • DAVID February 15, 2018 at 4:33 pm

            Simple answer stop listening to Talk Sport it’s a WUM station.

            • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 4:41 pm

              This subject has done the rounds and will continue. Its bound to happen. A breakaway.

              • DAVID February 15, 2018 at 5:49 pm

                Been doing the rounds and yet nothing happened.
                Talk shite must be running out of stuff to talk about if they’ve dredged this one up again.

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 4:43 pm

        In which case look forward to a GB football team as FIFA would use that to end the fourvhome nations Dilly!

        And this team would have zero Scots and northern Irish players and a couple of Welsh. But that wouldn’t be permitted on PC grounds so we’d end up with quotas…

  • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    Boring? F1.

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:52 pm

      ✔✔

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:54 pm

        Give me TT races any day.

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:56 pm

          Kickstart.

  • Accy February 15, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    Sports in order of boringness

    1.Snooker
    2.Cricket
    3.NFL

    Sports in order of interestingness

    1.Football
    2.Curling

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:37 pm

      Oh I like #1 and #3 on the boring list. There on my fun list. Only major snooker tournaments usually though.

      • Accy February 15, 2018 at 3:40 pm

        I used to watch Ronnie the Rocket many years ago and my grandad was well into golf and snooker. Uncle is into Cricket massively. Ah, forgot to add golf to the number 1 spot.

        I went to the MCG in 2010 or 2011 or something and watched England beat the Aussies – got them all out for 92 runs or something. I was so bored I went a little grey that day.

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:43 pm

          Yes, Ronnie transcends the sport.

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:38 pm

      Curling team is advertising supermarkets. What next?

    • OrganicPaper February 15, 2018 at 3:39 pm

      I’d add number 3 to interesting sports – figure skating – so long as it is the luverly sort in the yellow I saw earlier with her pert rear end fully on show.Phworr

    • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:39 pm

      Snooker is a pastime. If you can’t get out of breath doing it, it isn’t a sport. And I don’t count chain smoking Rothmans.

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:40 pm

        You do get exhausted playing it though. Its mentally taxing.

        • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:41 pm

          So is Sudoko.

          • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:44 pm

            That’l be in the Olympics before long.

            • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:47 pm

              Well poetry was once.

              • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:52 pm

                No?! Poetry’s a mission not a competition.😡

                • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:53 pm

                  Yep. The bloke who started the modern Olympics got gold for his poem.

                  Funny that.

                  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:56 pm

                    Its a sick place we live in.

    • David Dillenberg February 15, 2018 at 4:10 pm

      Cricket boring – Never – as this England classic win by 3 runs over the Aussie (2005) lives long in the memory of wild celebrations at Edgbaston. Richy Benaud supreme.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr-4F_SFWxA

      • Accy February 15, 2018 at 4:13 pm

        Yes, the celebrations were probably more interestingly than the preceding 5 days of paint drying.

        • David Dillenberg February 15, 2018 at 4:16 pm

          Wrong. Classic closely contested Test match ending in the most extraordinary fashion epitomised by Flintoff’s sportsmanship at the end of a remarkable encounter.

          • David Dillenberg February 15, 2018 at 4:16 pm

            10,000 on a Monday morning were there to see it.

            • Accy February 15, 2018 at 4:18 pm

              That settles it, then.

          • Accy February 15, 2018 at 4:17 pm

            No, you’re wrong. 😂

            • David Dillenberg February 15, 2018 at 4:21 pm

              Snooker finals had it’s classic moments illustrated by those world champtionship finals decided in the early hours of the morning staying up to 2 am in the morning watching Joe Johnson win on the last shot?

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    What else have we demanded of Rochdale for this weekend? A makeshift miniature cheese room…..? Hot water bottle cushions for the bench….?

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:34 pm

      A fluffer for Dele Ali?

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:35 pm

        Heh!

  • paul February 15, 2018 at 3:19 pm

    I digress..

    So here is my top 10 of TV series i have watched in the last 12 months.

    And yours??

    1. Game of Thrones S7
    2. Westworld
    3. True detective S1
    4. Godless
    5. True detective S2
    6. The Leftovers
    7. Ozark
    8. Ray Donovan
    9. Altered Carbon
    10. Fargo S3

    Honourable mention to Stranger Things, even though it was the rape child of all my favourite 70’s/80’s/90’s films

    • Harry Hotspur February 15, 2018 at 3:22 pm

      No ‘Love Thy Neighbour’, ‘Rising Damp’ or ‘Dad’s Army’.

      Get out. Just go…

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:29 pm

        Don’t tell him Pike!

      • paul February 15, 2018 at 3:30 pm

        You dirtee old man

    • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:33 pm

      Had to be Peaky Blinders. Watched all four series back to back in January.

      • paul February 15, 2018 at 3:35 pm

        Series 1-3 agreed, series 4 they’d been at the focus groups.

  • Bruxie February 15, 2018 at 3:18 pm
  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:16 pm

    I like the way its printed as fact that the Liverpool v West Brom decision were correct in the end. I didn’t think they were clear cut at all. Selah it was I think for the penalty, he threw himself down, the hall was nowhere near. Its ALWAYS interpretation no matter how many times you look at a decision. That’s why everybpissing week on the highlights the panal mostly disagree and can’t decide what decision was right and wrong…..after watching them 12 times from all angles. Leave the game alone.

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:18 pm

      *ball. Why correct a word that was correct

      • Accy February 15, 2018 at 3:20 pm

        autocorrect was invented to increase people’s general dissatisfaction with life. When people are dissatisfied they buy more. Basically it’s good for the economy.

        • Accy February 15, 2018 at 3:20 pm

          Ronglixjh is similar but w e make exceptions

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:21 pm

          Ha! Seems so…

  • Accy February 15, 2018 at 3:05 pm

    Any ref even acting as though they’ve taken a bung (even if they haven’t) particularly where Tottenham playing in Europe is concerned, should be put down like a rabid race horse, in front of the dugout. Members of the crowd should then be asked over the PA to come forward and kick the corpse at half time or full time.

    • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:10 pm

      Like Howard ‘two penalties’ Webb at Old Trafford, 2009?

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:10 pm

        ?w=465&q=20&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&dpr=2&s=2560c4b8d070f739034ffda8c5c17fdf

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:11 pm

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? February 15, 2018 at 3:26 pm

          Webb now the in house BT sports ref expert. A natural progression.

  • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:53 pm

    Bard i like the idea of shots from the 18 yard line but i’d use this as a ‘penalty light’ type option as i think we’re at the point where the game needs a couple of options in and around the penalty area.

    • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:56 pm

      Players clear through on goal but cynically hacked down just outside the box for instance.

      Persistent holding inside the box on corners

      and so on..

    • Accy February 15, 2018 at 2:58 pm

      I’d like to see sin bins. 5 and 10 minute punishments.

      • paul February 15, 2018 at 3:01 pm

        Also a good call

  • mattspurs February 15, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    I’m pretty anti the idea as there’s still so much interpretation that has to happen for so many decisions – If you take two of our games this season away to the Gooners and Liverpool loads of marginal decisions. Even after multiple reviews things aren’t cut and dried in terms of the two offsides for the Gooner goals or contact for our penalties against Liverpool – a human would still have to make a choice.

    I’m also not sure where the playback starts – how far back does the referral go or not? Bad tackle leading to possession of turnover, leading to pass to ‘onside’? player, leading to goal. VAR shows that player is onside but that it was a foul – does the VAR only apply to the offside/onside or does the blatant foul come into play?

    Personally with offside I think it should be possible to ‘Hawkeye’ the whole thing – sensor in ball, sensors in one stud of every player’s boot.

    • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:49 pm

      Very good call on the hawkeye idea

      • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:50 pm

        How can offsides be called correctly without it?

    • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:51 pm

      Playback should start in 1962, Benfica v Spurs.

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:52 pm

        I imagine Ronwol got the whole match on cine tape.

        • Accy February 15, 2018 at 2:54 pm

          it would have been pinhole camera technology back then.

          • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:56 pm

            Rare picture of Ronwol recording the 1901 cup final.

            • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:57 pm

              ~c200

              • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:57 pm

                Nope. Not working!

            • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 3:00 pm

    • Accy February 15, 2018 at 2:53 pm

      For offsides I’m sure they could do it with motion capture these days.

      Linesmen still needed for other things tho I guess.

      • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:54 pm

        Focal point for random anger

  • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    Vaseline Assisted Romance.

  • Freund or Foe February 15, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    Vegans Are Ridiculous.

    • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:49 pm

      Skinny fucks….kill them first I say, evil I tells ya

  • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:46 pm

    Supposed to have something to do with the actual system itself chaps!

  • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:45 pm

    Virtual Anal Reflux

  • 💋 February 15, 2018 at 2:42 pm

    Virtual Auto ‘Roticism.

  • BARD February 15, 2018 at 2:42 pm

    Viciously Amber Ringpiece.

    • 💋 February 15, 2018 at 2:45 pm

      Vicious Angry Rimmer

      • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:46 pm

        What did Lister do this time?

  • BARD February 15, 2018 at 2:40 pm

    I like the 2 challenge per game system so its up to the captain/manager to choose which incidents they want reviewed. I also like the idea of penalty shootouts being replaced by shots from the 18 yard line instead of the pen spot. Favours the keeper but makes each goal scored worth celebrating and rewards skill more than a 12 yard shot.

    • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:43 pm

      Decided by who? The coach, the captain (cricket) or the plant in he crowd with a better view?

      • BARD February 15, 2018 at 2:43 pm

        Me.

        • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:46 pm

          Spurs run VAR , now we’re talking

    • Accy February 15, 2018 at 2:48 pm

      A handicap system should be introduced dependent upon a club’s net spend. ie., if you’ve spent £500m on your team over the past 3 seasons, the other club you’re playing gets a 3 goal headstart.

      If you are caught diving for a penalty the defending team gets an automatic penalty up the other end.

      Any team fielding Cesc Fabregas or Jack Wilshere should be automatically deducted 18 points in the league. For cup competitions, these teams are only allowed to play 5 players.

      • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:53 pm

        While we are at it, let’s have race quota’s in all sports……I want more white sprinters and more black swimmers…..

  • Mad Carew February 15, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    If it stops this I’ll be happy

  • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    System like cricket has works ok, but they have to add on he time to stop cheating fairy fucks from wasting game time

  • Ufluckinplic February 15, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    Bigger goals, 4 quarters and additional body armour and breaks dictated by the TV commercials. Get that in place and the sky’s the limit for football.

    • Accy February 15, 2018 at 2:35 pm

      I was going to say it does seem as though VAR is more an opportunity to add sponsorship while they discuss decisions rather than increase the fairness of the game.

    • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:36 pm

      Or rename it basketball and have manufactured close 100-101 games every day ……fuck that

  • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:31 pm

    Vexatious Auto Reconciler

    • Harry Hotspur February 15, 2018 at 2:39 pm

      Oooh I say…

      • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:50 pm

        fancy

  • Mad Carew February 15, 2018 at 2:30 pm

    Spurs playing on the Beach

    Whole new pitch laid

  • 💋 February 15, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    Virile and Randy.

  • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    Vanquish All Rascals

    I haven’t kept up with how it is being rolled out so forgive me if some or all of this is already happening but it strikes me that to preserve the flow of the game it should only be called upon for penalty shouts, offside/goal shouts and serious foul play. For transaprency and organic drama I would also like to see the refs explain the decisions over the PA . Could also have the additional positive knock on effect of stopping the players haranging/cussing the officials once they realise they are exposed for all the world to see and now hear.

  • OrganicPaper February 15, 2018 at 2:20 pm

    gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:00 pm
    Sky will be calling the decisions from the studio…

    I agree. This raises an ethical issue too. Currently a single human person is responsible for the decisions and is accountable to them.
    The use of VAR introduces an organisation, with no one responsible and accountable person. No system is infallible to abuse but this seems to open the floor up to corruption from commercial stakeholders

    • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:29 pm

      I think the replays being studied should be played back on the big screen and the decision broadcat over the PA. Nothing like a bit of public scrutiny to keep everyone honest (majoritively)

    • Accy February 15, 2018 at 2:32 pm

      I remember re-watching the Europa game we got knocked out (Dele sent off) – against Gent, I believe. With 10 men we played very well. We had 15 incorrect reffing decisions go against us. Most of them niggly fouls on our players. I came to the conclusion that we were never destined to progress in Europe due to corrupt refs.

      • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:33 pm

        Thankfully the Krauts did right by us on Tuesday evening

        • Accy February 15, 2018 at 2:36 pm

          Good old Krauts.

        • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:38 pm

          50/50

        • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:46 pm

          Apart from Higuain being offside for the first goal.

          • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:48 pm

            And the no contact dive free kick by their ancient fuck late on

  • Mad Carew February 15, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    The thing I found strange about the article is that Mourinho talked some sense for a change, his after match interviews are completely nuts.

    • East Stand February 15, 2018 at 2:17 pm

      He’s a child in a mans body, that’s why he always looks like someone’s stolen his Tonka toy post match when his team don’t win.

      • paul February 15, 2018 at 2:29 pm

        Gone by the end of next season Easty, so too Pogba and Sanchez

  • Gus February 15, 2018 at 2:08 pm

    For me the most important role of VAR should be to check penalty decisions as the game has stopped anyway. That and goal line technology is fine with me

    • Accy February 15, 2018 at 2:29 pm

      And Red Cards.

  • Mad Carew February 15, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    Even with VAR it is not Black and White, individual interpretation will continue to cause debate. Getting the correct decisions is paramount so it’s a good step in the right direction but must not be allowed to seriously detract from the flow of the game.

    • Horndog 🇺🇸 February 15, 2018 at 2:05 pm

      It will.

      • Mad Carew February 15, 2018 at 2:06 pm

        As long as it’s no worse than say, a 2 minute injury for example and only for the decisions mentioned.

    • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:07 pm

      If referees become emasculated over the big decisions it will change the game.

      • Mad Carew February 15, 2018 at 2:08 pm

        It should be seen as an aid rather than a replacement

  • Hartley February 15, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    VAR will kill football.
    It’s fine in Rugby and Cricket as they are stop/start games, football isn’t but will end up that way.

    • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:04 pm

      My sentiments. And then it will progress to having time outs and managers having two challenge reviews to decisions…

    • Horndog 🇺🇸 February 15, 2018 at 2:04 pm

      I tend to agree Harts. The NFL, over here, has it and adds to the delays of an already drawn out start/stop game. I don’t think my view is popular here but then I have lost interest in our brand of football.

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:05 pm

        Your game seems more like a progression of set plays, than any kind of fluidity.

        • Horndog 🇺🇸 February 15, 2018 at 2:10 pm

          Correct and generally boring as hell. The added delays, while decisions are determined, adds to that. Again, I am in the minority.

          • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:14 pm

            Plenty of time to go and get more corn dogs, and weiners; whatever they are.

  • OrganicPaper February 15, 2018 at 1:58 pm

    Once VAR is established im sure there will be a clamor to extend its scope to include other offences / decisions.
    Im left wondering if in a few years we will just have a man in black running around relaying the decisions of the VAR team. Nothing more than a mouth piece.

    At the moment I dont really like VAR, not that i dont want decisions to be correct, more that its another thing that separates the game played in the Prem and top leagues from the game being played at lower league level.
    That said, I also know sport needs to evolve I just hope it maintains what we all enjoy about football – some of that is the jeopardy of refereeing decisions.

    • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:00 pm

      Sky will be calling the decisions from the studio…

  • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    GB ladies curling team are tied with China. Deciding end to be played.

    • Freund or Foe February 15, 2018 at 1:50 pm

      You seem ready for the climax, Glos. Well done for holding out so long.

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 1:58 pm

        Can the ladies pull it off! Getting close now.

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 1:59 pm

        I have to say the Chinese ladies have got on top now.

      • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:01 pm

        Last stone… 😓

        • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 2:02 pm

          YES. 😂

    • Aussie in Switzerland February 15, 2018 at 2:44 pm

      Scintillating stuff

  • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 1:31 pm

    Ostersund (pop 49,000) has an English manager who has turned a frozen wasteland team in the 4th tier into a surprise success.

  • gloster1861 February 15, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    Make the players wear full body stockings with sensors. Then we’ll know if Dele was touched as he collapses in a heap.

  • Freund or Foe February 15, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Voluptuous Assets Rule.

    • Harry Hotspur February 15, 2018 at 1:22 pm

      I like ’em big

  • James147 February 15, 2018 at 1:16 pm

    Virtually Assured Rightness.

    • Harry Hotspur February 15, 2018 at 1:19 pm

      Well played, sir!

      • James147 February 15, 2018 at 1:36 pm

        🙂