Date: 24th April 2018 at 10:36am
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MARMALADE TODAY by Tom, formally of the East Upper

So, Saturday came.. another FA Cup semi final. I can’t get excited about these anymore. Being in my mid thirties I have yet to experience Tottenham reach an FA Cup final. Legend has it we were traditionally a great cup side. I was too young to enjoy the ‘91 Cup run, when Gazza ‘had a crack’, then broke his leg in the final, with it all ending in a blaze of glory with Gary Mabbutt bringing the trophy back home.

History. As is this years cup campaign.

The hard work was done. Just one more win and I’d at last see this thing of legend but once again, it wasn’t to be..

I can’t get excited for these semi finals because I’ve been disappointed so many times. 8 times in total in be exact. My Arsenal supporting mates have seen their team lift the cup as many times as I’ve been left crying into my beer.

EIGHT TIMES! That’s not all down to the manager who has been in charge for just 2 of these, and it’s not all down to luck, either.

Maybe it’s the way the majority of players still perceive us as a football club?

A chance for groups of young footballers who’s careers have barely started to put themselves firmly in the front of the shop window?

Maybe their attitudes are, ‘medal after my big move’?

Maybe the time has come to call ourselves Tottenham Hotspur Shop Window, rather than Tottenham Hotspur Football Club?

Whatever the truth of the matter is, losing these games hurts. It’s a beating that we as supporters have taken regularly over the years, regularly under the watch of one man, Mr Daniel Levy… 6 out of 8 FA Cup semi finals to be accurate.

A man who has rewarded himself this year for such achievements with wheelbarrows full of bits of paper with the Queen’s head on, to the tune of 6 million. He may be adding to the club’s legacy by building the finest outdoor arena ever to be seen on Planet Earth, but also a legacy of failing to win trophies, based on results on the football pitch, rather than actually winning them.

Better leave that bit out of next season’s glossy brochures eh!? Together with the photos of our oh-so-dusty trophy cabinet.

So, Levy is the common factor in all of this. The statistics don’t lie, but I don’t see Pochettino as completely blameless either. Don’t get me wrong, I love Poch, and cannot praise his work to date as anything other than miraculous, he is changing things for the better, but he needs to shoulder some of the responsibility with where we are now.

I personally don’t buy rumours of him being disinterested in winning domestic cups.

What person would manage a club not to win trophies? He regularly juggles the team for cup games as our squad is simply wafer thin. You cannot compare our squad to the likes of Mercenary City and Manure – it’s apples and oranges territory.

Needs must – Premier League, Champions League, FA Cup are the rigours of the day. As we are, something has to give somewhere. His uncharacteristic, enthusiastic celebrations after Dele’s opening goal, the hand to the forehead when United scored their eventual winner, his comments to the press after the game to my eyes tell us all you need to know.

He was devastated.. prickly, but devastated.

I’m hoping that in light of our season so far, he stops pleading public poverty and gives the board an ultimatum – “Pay my players the going rate and buy me players that will turn us into real contenders, or I leave.”

At the moment, Pochettino is giving the impression in public that he’s about to be sold ‘jam tomorrow’, only to discover that his pantry is choc full with marmalade that’s on the turn, and that he’s lost the receipt for the jam!

He must use this situation as leverage to help us make the next step. Failing to do this would be doing a disservice to the football club, the supporters, and himself. Levy will be the next one to plead poverty to the manager, lamenting the cost of the new stadium etc, but in a world of record breaking revenue streams, investment in the actual football team is a mere drop in the ocean. In 4 years, Pochettino has taken us from mid table mediocrity to a team almost riding the crest of a wave, but just recently has plateaued due to the quality of his surfboard. We’re not far away, but far enough. When Dier hit the post just before half time.. it’s fine margins, but it’s these fine margins that matter in the final analysis – winners and losers.

I think the penny may now have finally dropped with him (quick, Daniel might pick it up!) with a sudden thud but he must be brave enough to do something about it, as opposed to spit his dummy out and say that he’ll play the kids next year. Using the ‘philosophy’ in 4 years time butters no parsnips either.. does he really think our other contenders won’t have progressed further in that time? Who will be left then when the other players have looked above their heads to see the Kyle Walker’s of this world’s mixture of medals and money gleaming in the distance beforehand? He’s made mistakes, but he’s a relatively young manager, he’ll make mistakes – verbal, tactical and otherwise.

As I said earlier, I love Pochettino, he’s the best manager I’ve witnessed first hand at the club, but he must be proactive if he is to achieve his ambitious objectives otherwise everyone may as well pack up and go home. A home where winning trophies is a regular thing for future generations of football supporters.. think of that potential profit loss, Mr Levy!

Challenge Daniel, Mauricio!

Take him down like you did Michael Owen!

Make history – glorious history.

MARMALADE TODAY by Tom, formally of the East Upper

 
Comments
  • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    Panama Paul

    Top of my Outs list would be Daniel Levy and Joe Lewis. Preferably Daniel first out of the window.

    My kinda analysis!

    • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 2:51 pm

      And a self cleaning window…

      • Aussie in Switzerland April 24, 2018 at 7:21 pm

        With changeable mood lighting glass panels

  • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 2:50 pm

    SpurAndy 🍒π

    I think what that means is we’re not shit at playing enjoyable, winning, watchable (mostly) football. We’re just not very good at winning silverware…. at the moment.

    The trouble with ‘at the moment’ is that it sound commendable.

    Right up until you’re made aware it’s been nigh on twenty years…

  • Nick April 24, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    If we’d have got to the final here’s the ticket prices
    The following prices have been released: Cat A: £145 Cat B: £115 Cat C: £80 Cat D: £45
    Big price hikes by the FA on last season prices.Its not

  • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 2:47 pm
  • StuSpur April 24, 2018 at 2:45 pm

    There is but one solution. ENIC out. Cut the cancer out at its core

  • aristotle April 24, 2018 at 2:36 pm

    Time for some perspective.
    THFC have lost 6 Premier League games and 3 cup games all season. In all but 3 of those games the defeats were by the odd goal. Spurs were in 6 of the 9 games they have lost until the final whistle blew. That leaves 3 games where Spurs were beaten by more than 1 goal and probably deserved to lose. In truth the only side who have comprehensively beaten Spurs this season are the (deserved) champions Manchester City. City dominated all the statistics against Spurs, in every department, in both games and are the only team apart from Juventus and Leicester City that Spurs have failed to beat so far this season. Woolwich were the only other club to beat Spurs by more than 1 goal and the statistics from that game suggest Spurs matched them in every department apart from goals scored on the day. Spurs dominated the statistics in virtually every department, in every other defeat this season. Remember these are only the games Spurs have lost. The results from all Spurs defeats this season are as follows;
    Spurs 1 Chelsea 2
    (Spurs 68% possession, 18 shots, 6 on target)
    (Chelsea 32% possession, 9 shots, 2 on target)
    Man United 1 Spurs 0
    (Man United 45% possession, 11 shots, 3 on target)
    (Spurs 55% possession, 13 shots, 4 on target)
    Spurs 2 West ham 3
    (Spurs 61% possession, 13 shots, 6 on target)
    (West Ham 39% possession, 10 shots, 7 on target)
    Leicester City 2 Spurs 1
    (Leicester 37% possession, 7 shots, 4 on target)
    (Spurs 63% possession, 18 shots, 6 on target)
    Woolwich Cuckoos 2 Spurs 0
    (Cuckoos 42% possession, 14 shots, 5 on target)
    (Spurs 58% possession, 14 shots, 4 on target)
    Man City 4 Spurs 1
    (Man City 53% possession, 20 shots, 11 on target)
    (Spurs 47% possession, 7 shots, 2 on target)
    Spurs 1 Juventus 2
    (Spurs 54% possession, 23 shots, 6 on target)
    (Juventus 46% possession, 8 shots, 3 on target)
    Spurs 1 Man City 3
    (Spurs 48% possession, 8 shots, 3 on target)
    (Man City 52% possession, 17 shots, 6 on target)
    Man United 2 Spurs 1
    (Man United 36% possession, 12 shots, 5 on target)
    (Spurs 64% possession, 13 shots, 2 on target)

    Don’t believe the hype people.
    He’s magic you know…………..

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 2:41 pm

      That’s a frustrating thing. These last years we’ve had the makings of a real winning team. If our owners hadn’t moved us and concentrated on the team being the best it could be who knows what we could have achieved. They ain’t interested in that though. We’ve reached the apex with Poch now. Its been really messed up and we will regress from here.

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 2:44 pm

        Another reason is the Prem is garbage outside top 5 ish nowadays.

        • SpurAndy 🍒π April 24, 2018 at 2:52 pm

          Hmm, really? So on any given day none of the garbage teams would ever beat the top 5. Not sure that’s actually true, Dippers beaten by some garbage at the beginning of the season, Manure beaten by WBA tother day if I recall. Rascists beaten by Watford, Spammers Palace this season.

          • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 3:40 pm

            You get the odd result. It’s not as competitive as it was.

    • StuSpur April 24, 2018 at 2:41 pm

      So does the above information mean we did actually win something tangible or just come close?

      • SpurAndy 🍒π April 24, 2018 at 2:45 pm

        I think what that means is we’re not shit at playing enjoyable, winning, watchable (mostly) football. We’re just not very good at winning silverware…. at the moment.

      • aristotle April 24, 2018 at 2:49 pm

        It tells me Spurs are very close and that what we are actually doing is venting our frustration at missing out on a second rate prize. If ENIC did actually retain the services of Spurs top players and paid them the going rate and actually strengthened the areas that we need cover in with genuine quality, (centre forward), Spurs would probably have won something under Poch already. There is no doubt about Pochettino’s minerals as far as I can see, based on the tangible evidence of our own eyes, the statistics and the fact Spurs have become CL regulars on his watch. Poch is a top manager. Levy has done a very good job using methods that are not conducive to harmony within the playing squad or the fan base.

    • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:44 pm

      Unless you win dominating possession means nothing!

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 2:46 pm

        Very much so. Wheeling out possession stats is pissing in a hurricane.

        • aristotle April 24, 2018 at 2:58 pm

          These are stats from games Spurs lost. The point is that whatever you think of the stats there is one aspect of football that cannot be removed from the equation. Luck. Had Eric Dier’s deflected shot luckily given Spurs the league would the outcome have been different?

          Spurs are doing all the right things. On Saturday Spurs matched Man United in every department and were unlucky to lose; as they were in most of their other defeats this season. Juventus had a 10 minute spell at Wembley as did West Ham in the League Cup. Spurs are consistently better in most games under Poch. This suggests he needs a bit of help to make us ‘luckier’.

          • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 3:05 pm

            Come on Aris, don’t do it to yourself. Think of your family.

            ‘Luck’ conspired against us????!

            I refuse to believe you until you introduce me to the gipsy that placed the curse!!!

            • aristotle April 24, 2018 at 3:27 pm

              Of course you need luck to win. Belief grows from winning regularly so you can’t argue with the fact that under Pochettino Spurs have become more consistant in terms of goals scored, goals conceded, final league position. To win a cup competition luck has to be considered a factor. You can be unlucky in one off games but over a season in the league the final league position gives a more clear view of how you are performing consistently. Spurs have lost 6 league games this season so far. An average of one in seven. To win the FA Cup you need to win 6 ties from the third round on. Spurs needed to win two games against two teams they have already lost to this season. They were not outplayed and were unlucky that Dier’s deflected shot did not go in. Likewise United were lucky that Herrera’s shot went through the defenders legs and wasn’t deflected wide.

              • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 3:36 pm

                Sadly this is disappearing down the same rabbit hole that Real Fan dived into and never emerged from.

                There are no metrics for luck, hangovers, or ill-winds.

                Spare yourself the pain of bending over backwards to make excuses and simply acknowledge that we have been consistent failures under ENIC.

                The human spine was not evolved to pull off the moves you’re attempting.

                Ricky Villa was a lucky c*nt then was he against City?

                Graham Roberts, Mark Falco, Gary Stevens and Steve Archibald were all lucky when we beat Anderlecht?

                No.

                You would fucking dare mention the word.

                Yet to absolve these greasy ENIC whores you’d post anything on here to absolve them.

                Dear me…

                ‘Luck off’, mate.

                • aristotle April 24, 2018 at 3:48 pm

                  Mate I packed up my season ticket because of Levy’s lies. I don’t like the methods his company have used to exploit the loyalty of decent, ordinary Spurs fans for the duration of their 17 years in charge. I gave upseason ticket as a point of principle at the disgusting treatment of Martin Jol. A man who had served Spurs well and whom I regard as the real catalyst for change. However; what I have to acknowledge is that Levy hired him, fired him and got Spurs to where he suggested ENIC would take us. I would listen to criticism regarding how it took 15 years rather than the 5 ENIC’s David Buchler told us it would take. I think the treatment of supporters regarding not increasing WHL’s capacity for 17 years and ramping up ticket prices year on year was an appalling betrayal. Not to mention Stubhub and the various ‘loyalty’ schemes.

                  However; Levy is delivering success of a sort to Spurs in a very cost effective way. As a businessman Levy has shown the ruthlessness and the lack of conscience that is probably necessary to deliver the long term success we all crave. I didn’t believe in the guy when I packed up my ST but I have to acknowledge that he has got us the increased capacity and the regular CL football that was promised in 5 years but took 15. Now is not the time to complain imho. That ship sailed a decade ago.

                  • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 3:59 pm

                    Cool.

                    I’ll shut down the blog.

                    • aristotle April 24, 2018 at 4:22 pm

                      No need to shut down the blog. I was at the 2001 semi against Woolwich at Old Trafford. It was Hoddle’s first game in charge. The ginger pele put us 1-0 up and from there we were given a lesson. Outclassed, outfought and outthought. Spurs were miles away from where we are now at that point when ENIC had just taken over. Spurs today have made huge progress from then. It’s taken much longer than it should have but Spurs are more consistent now than they have ever been since the early 60’s. I don’t get the hostility to Poch. He has been great for Spurs. Levy is a ball breaker. Fair enough.

    • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 2:48 pm

      Is there a Possession Stats Trophy and do I need to grease up my anus before it is gently shoved up and in?

  • Accy April 24, 2018 at 2:24 pm

    Gloster1861
    That win at the Bridge really was pivotal. Now it looks even more massive.

    I hope the semi final loss doesn’t have the same effect as that draw to chelsea 2 seasons ago when it became mathematically impossible to catch Leicester (the cunts). Our heads went down and we lost to Newcastle 5-1, finishing below the scum.

    The boys need to play for their wage increases next season, now.

    • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:26 pm

      IMO much depends on Kane recapturing his lost form!

      • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 2:27 pm

        No, if he is off form don’t play him. That has been Poch’s criminal folly. We can win without him.

        • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:29 pm

          Brave man to drop him wont happen

        • chrism090861 April 24, 2018 at 2:42 pm

          Yep, this is the one, we won without him, so if he is off and hampering us, then just pop him on the bench.

    • JackDLad April 24, 2018 at 2:36 pm

      Better play for Levys wage increase as well, poor beggar is finding it tough with the money he is on!

  • MM444 April 24, 2018 at 2:22 pm

    Anyone else think that Toby’s non-selection wasn’t the manager’s decision?

    • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 2:29 pm

      Well not me. Poch takes against a player, and that’s it.

      • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:31 pm

        All contract rebels suffer a similar fate. Walker, Toby etc

        • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 2:32 pm

          Yes. I think Poch has had his heart broken by Toby.

          • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:36 pm

            Not surprised if a hushed sale is already agreed in principle!
            Back later this eve.

          • Accy April 24, 2018 at 2:36 pm

            +1

        • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:32 pm

          Correction: Walker simply wanted to leave.

    • Ronan April 24, 2018 at 2:46 pm

      I doubt there was pleasure in the boardroom that Poch reopened the Toby question at Brighton. Whether it was expressed to him before Saturday, who knows.

  • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    All attention must be on beating Watford. Inquests and autopsy can wait, all minds must be focussed on ensuring fourth or even third place.

    • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:54 pm

      I am sure the lads will stroll to a comfortable victory!

    • chrism090861 April 24, 2018 at 2:09 pm

      Totally and 100% agree with this. All the other stuff is a distraction to what would be a disaster if we failed to finish at least 4th. We are 3 points behind Liverpool with a game in hand, and they have to play Chelsea yet, so we need to win our remaining games

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 2:11 pm

        Even we can’t miss out now…..surely?

        • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 2:12 pm

          We can do it! We gave the language ‘Spursy’!

          • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 2:13 pm

            No, I do not want to miss out, but let’s hammer Watford to make sure.

            • Accy April 24, 2018 at 2:15 pm

              Who is the manager at Watford these days? They’re a revolving door at the minute. Started the season strongly but have faded.

              • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 2:19 pm

                Elton’s in charge now I think….

                • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:28 pm

                  That Marcus Silva bloke!

        • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 2:21 pm

          That win at the Bridge really was pivotal. Now it looks even more massive.

  • PlayitagainSamways April 24, 2018 at 1:45 pm

    Jay Rodriguez would be a good buy from West Brom.

    • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:47 pm

      plus Shane Long and Tadic!!

      • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:48 pm

        Triple swoop + Bertrand!

        • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:50 pm

          Why not buy all the relegated squad members? They must be good…

          • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:50 pm

            Crouch again?

            • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:52 pm

              Chris Wood would be a decent signing!

              • MysteriousStranger April 24, 2018 at 1:56 pm

                🤦🏻‍♂️

              • Caspurs♿️ April 24, 2018 at 1:57 pm

                Who else should we sign DD, Ray Wilkins?

                • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:00 pm

                  Yes Shaquiri!

                  • MysteriousStranger April 24, 2018 at 2:02 pm

                    He’s fatter than Shaquille O’Neal. 🙄

                    • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:04 pm

                      Never heard of her!

                  • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:02 pm

                    Ok he is a little shall we say on the tubby side but I am sure we shall prosper from his services!

            • Caspurs♿️ April 24, 2018 at 1:55 pm

              Yay! I’ve never seen us relegated, it’d be brilliant, open top bus, a mass of jubilant fans cheering them on, culminating in songs and cheers at the town hall, fanbloodytastic!!!

              • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 2:25 pm

                I have, and it isn’t nice.

                When we went down last time we had one trump card. The teenage Glenn Hoddle came in, he was superb in getting us promotion at the first effort.

                He scored a goal from a crazy, almost impossible angle between keeper and post that you wouldn’t think anyone would attempt.

    • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:48 pm

      As back up to Kane?

      • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:49 pm

        Isn’t he more of a Son?

  • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    Blame Levy all you like but funds made available to Poch in January were spent on Aurier and Moura who have not exactly set the world alight!!

    • Camus April 24, 2018 at 1:37 pm

      1) Aurier arrived in the summer, not January
      2) Was Moura a Poch choice, considering he never plays him?

      • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:38 pm

        Indeed.

    • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:40 pm

      Tbh, I suspected Moura wasn’t a January signing in the true sense. He wasn’t match fit, I thought he was bought as an early next season signing. Full preseason, bedded in, ready to go in August.

      • Caspurs♿️ April 24, 2018 at 1:43 pm

        Yep.

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 1:49 pm

      Funds made available? Come along DD….?

      • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:54 pm

        To Levy, “funds made available” means flogging players off, and then Pochettino prising open Levy’s fist.

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 2:06 pm

          Our war chest….leftovers from selling 1 part of the best defence in Premier League football.

  • Camus April 24, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    If Llorente does go, and I fully expect him to, do not be surprised if Rondon is his replacement.
    It wouldn’t be like Levy to keep repeating the same mistake, would it…?

    • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:42 pm

      Rondon’s conversion rate is pance!

      • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:43 pm

        Similar the Diof at Stoke excelling at woeful finishing!

        • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:44 pm

          *to

        • MysteriousStranger April 24, 2018 at 1:57 pm

          Jesus, you were talking up Rondon before. 😂

          • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:22 pm

            True but revised my opinion. However surrounded by better players he has loads of potential and scored the equaliser against us at Wembley when he nudged Sanchez out of the way before stroking home!

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 2:08 pm

      I like Kenneth Zahore at Cardiff. Young, strong, cheap. Hear that Mr Chair? Cheap….ish.

      • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:13 pm

        I was there when Zahore scored a belter!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w0n5DG3pZc

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 2:23 pm

          Nice. Think that was his weaker foot too. Sessengon and Zahore. 2 good young players. Zahore bit older though.

          • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 2:24 pm

            Zahore not for me!

            • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 24, 2018 at 2:36 pm

              He’s a bit raw. Could be something if developed properly.

  • caveman April 24, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    We are football team. Not a hedge fund.
    We are football team. Not a hedge fund.
    We are football team. Not a hedge fund.
    We are football team. Not a hedge fund.
    We are football team. Not a hedge fund.
    We are football team. Not a hedge fund.
    We are football team. Not a hedge fund.

    Can you get that into your thick head baldy.

    • Caspurs♿️ April 24, 2018 at 1:34 pm

      I make that 7 ‘a’s you missed there Cavey, very tardy indeed…

      • richspurs April 24, 2018 at 1:36 pm

        Nope. He added 7 extra. But agreed tardy indeed.

    • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:35 pm

      He’s laughing. Levy has achieved the real project, building a spiffing new venue plus shops, offices, and all with funds garnered from suckers. When he sells on he’ll be so rich, and so so calm

  • Camus April 24, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    John Cross is writing articles about Poch’s halo slipping. As Gazza said yesterday, we’ve really invited the wolves in. There’s a real hope amongst our enemies that we implode now and that Poch leaves.
    Don’t give ‘em the satisfaction, Poch 🙏🏻

  • richspurs April 24, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    So. I demand to know. Are we apples or oranges. Go on tell me.

    • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:28 pm

      Lemons.

      • richspurs April 24, 2018 at 1:29 pm

        Close enough. Now make lemonade.

        • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:32 pm

          Sorry. No Sugar. Daddy.

          • richspurs April 24, 2018 at 1:33 pm

            Aspertaime

            • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:37 pm

              Bang on! Daniel and Joe are the artificial sweetener daddies.

              No fecking nutritional value at all, not even calories.

  • MysteriousStranger April 24, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    Whether you think Alli is a luxury or not, whether you think he played well or not, his post match reaction on Saturday was exactly the kind of reaction I’d expect from someone who wants to win trophies. Whoever he plays for. I applaud him for showing that passion at least. It wasn’t him that gave the ball away, it wasn’t him that couldn’t be arsed to track back. He at least made a positive contribution. On the other side of the coin, Poch’s post match reaction was disappointing. In fact his comments leading up to the game were quite disappointing, too. Managing the fans expectations. Thanks for that.

    If Poch ends up in Madrid or Paris next season I wouldn’t be at all surprised. He seems to have talked his way into keeping his options open, to perhaps leave “the project”, for a different one. Maybe he’s decided managing a club that buys the players he wants to take the team to the next level is preferable to managing one hamstrung by countless restrictions from the Chairman. And Levy probably wouldn’t care either way, he’ll just be patting himself on the back for getting another wad of contract buyout cash, so he can give himself another mind boggling, insulting to the fans, vastly disproportionate pay rise. The cunt.

    • Camus April 24, 2018 at 1:26 pm

      Agree with all of that 👍🏻

    • caveman April 24, 2018 at 1:27 pm

      100%

    • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:30 pm

      I’m afraid you’re correct on all points. Especially the last sentence.

  • SeattleSpursGuy April 24, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    Our U18’s just beat Arsenal U18’s…9-0. So, Levy has the academy humming along it seems 🙂

    • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:07 pm

      Another extra large helping of jam tomorrow, sir?

      • SeattleSpursGuy April 24, 2018 at 1:09 pm

        Why not? It’ll help ease the disappointment of not scoring 10.

        • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:20 pm

          To put results into some kind of context, we beat Chelsea u18s 3-0 last week.

          Trouble is, in the u18 cup final, we lost 2-0 to the same team. When it mattered. And we lost in the cup to Chelsea 2-0 the time before.

          There is a pattern emerging of flattering to device.

          • MysteriousStranger April 24, 2018 at 1:25 pm

            Or deceive.

            • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:27 pm

              Ha ha ha! Yes.

    • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 1:11 pm

      This could only be trumped in the good news stakes by hearing that Mrs Levy has won a prize for flower arranging…

      They should shut down all the youth shite and send those lads down the local job centre.

      • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:26 pm

        It’s not that bad. There is hope. But we need more than that.

        I also fear that any really shining talent will be lured away by the reality that the BIG SERIOUS CLUBS use money – in the correct way. To buy success, not shop square footage.

    • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 1:24 pm

      Did Phoenix Patterson score?

      • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:27 pm

        I’m looking… I know Rodel scored.

      • MysteriousStranger April 24, 2018 at 1:27 pm

        Didn’t play.

  • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 12:58 pm

    Freund or Foe

    Or none of the above. Instead, we continue to grow as a club, both financially and on the pitch. Some players might leave, some new ones come in. Some of the new players work out well, some don’t. We reap the financial benefits of CL qualification, increasing sponsorship and increasing match day revenue to pay our best players more and improve the squad, to a point where we can be more competitive with the richer and more successful teams that we are up against.
    I know it’s not quite as dramatic, but I think it’s a good plan. In fact, other than getting our arses out to Barbados and forcing Joe to put some money in, what other options do we have?

    Sadly this ‘we continue to grow as a club, both financially and on the pitch’ is complete and utter fiction.

    We are football team. Not a hedge fund.

    If we were a paper clips business growth would straightforwardly be ‘selling more paper clips.’

    Opening new offices, warehouses, production facilities etc would all be side issues to the core aim, of selling paperclips.

    Football teams ‘grow’ by winning.

    There exists no other credible metric.

    Every big football club that has ever existed has been defined by the size of it’s tangible achievements because this, and only this influences the fanbase, which in turn influences the revenue streams.

    How do I sell more paper clips? Well, clearly I need to scrutinise many elements here, but the first before all others, is my product.

    Do I sell paperclips people want?

    Are they ‘everlasting’, or ridiculously cheap, or do they have a funky USP like bluetooth, or they are edible?!

    What pull do my paperclips have? Do they win ‘Paper Clip Of The Year’ now and again?

    Why do people want to queue round the block to get my paperclips?

    ENIC are selling Spurs based upon an emotional investment that has to be on a diminishing return.

    Can you afford to take your child to a game – and get them hooked?

    Er… not often.

    Do Spurs win stuff?

    Lots of games, but nigh on zero trophies.

    So there are scant opportunities for your child to be enticed in, let alone retained as a customer.

    Spurs are an expensive paperclip with no USP.

    ENIC are selling paperclips that quite frankly are bulk standard, and reliant upon your father telling you what a fabulous brand they were when he was a lad.

    It isn’t e-fucking-nough.

    Fans want trophies and not sob stories and long drawn out excuses about ‘it being a bit difficult’, and assurances about ‘wanting to complete’.

    A club that has won sod all in the entire term of ENIC’s ownership is hocking the family jewels to build a shopping mall so they can make more money. With a vague, I said a VAGUE threat that they might do more than carry out the bare minimum to replenish the football squad – at some unspecified point ion the future.

    There is no growth.

    There is only opportunism and exploitation.

  • Nick April 24, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    This was supposed to be our disaster season,the Wembley curse,every game an away game,a mid table finish with nothing to look forward to except the glimmer of light that emanates from the newly built Death Star.
    We are now distraught that we may blow a top four finish ,we have made a cup semi final & beaten Real Madrid & Dortmund in the Champions League !!! 4 years ago we’d have sold our granny’s right leg for this season.Get some perspective boys FFS.

    • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:00 pm

      Fair point. I thought Wembley would be dodgy. But it’s the hope, the easy draws in the FA cup, the thinking it’s our year!
      Then fade to black…

    • Ronan April 24, 2018 at 1:19 pm

      I doubt anybody’s distraught. But after Saturday there’s a feeling that this team that twice challenged for the title may end up not winning anything at all.
      And the concern with summer approaching that some of the big players may now be seeing it that way too.

  • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:25 pm

    n no particular order players deemed surplus to requirements:

    OUTS
    Aurier
    Toby
    Rose
    Davies
    Trippier
    LLorente
    Sissoko
    Lamela
    Dembele?
    Wanyama?

    INS
    Alli
    Kane
    Son
    Sanchez
    Dier
    Dembele
    Verts
    Moura

    I am thinking!

    • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:25 pm

      *in

    • paul April 24, 2018 at 12:27 pm

      I’d ad coco to the keeps

      • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:28 pm

        For work ethic yes but what else does he do?

        • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:29 pm

          Ins Eriksen

          • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:30 pm

            Outs Jansenn

            • Panama Paul April 24, 2018 at 12:33 pm

              What? No mention of Harry Winks, Josh Onomah, KWP, CCV and Patrick Patterson?

              • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:36 pm

                Sorry!

                Winks in
                Onomah out
                KWP in
                CCCV out
                Patterson in

    • Panama Paul April 24, 2018 at 12:32 pm

      Top of my Outs list would be Daniel Levy and Joe Lewis. Preferably Daniel first out of the window.

      • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:34 pm

        Once the stadium is built I anticipate an imminent takeover bid?

        • paul April 24, 2018 at 12:35 pm

          Don’t hold your breath

          • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:37 pm

            Seems logical?

            • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:38 pm

              Ah the debt!

        • Panama Paul April 24, 2018 at 12:40 pm

          And then what? They would need an indecent sum of money to ‘persuade’ ENIC to sell. After that, then there’s having money to invest in the squad. You don’t think the new owners will be wanting to recoup their outlay sooner rather than later. The CRN cows are gonna get mlked for all they’re worth. Unless the new owners have money coming out of the ground and don’t mind not getting it back in a hurry.

          • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:44 pm

            Surely there must be some megga rich owners in the world willing to invest in THFC!

            • Panama Paul April 24, 2018 at 12:45 pm

              megga – sure you don’t mean mug

    • Nick April 24, 2018 at 12:52 pm

      Left leg In
      Left leg out

  • Sao Paulo Spurs April 24, 2018 at 12:12 pm

    I’ve been trying to work out for years why Spurs never quite get over that line and actually win something. As fans we’ve seen it all from poor playing staff to bad management. I remember Redknapp saying “Spurs fans have never had it so good”. Losing didn’t feel good Harry! It never will. Now Poch (who I rate highly) is trotting out the same excuses his predecessors did.
    My theory is that when a player signs for Spurs he knows he’s made it to a great club with fantastic resources but deep down he knows there are a few rungs on the ladder left to climb. He knows if he plays well for us he may get the chance to sign for a “better” club that is more likely to win trophies. There is no “win at all costs” mentality installed into the player when he first signs. I think I heard that Les Ferdinand once said to Dembele that he could play for Real Madrid one day…even the staff think their players can do better.
    Michael Carrick also said after signing for Man Utd he knew he joined a club where the expectations were much higher to win trophies.
    This is our problem. Until we start acting like a club that wants to win trophies we will never win them. Sure, the wage structure is an issue but that hasn’t stopped us from building a great squad. However, our lack of ambition on the pitch will see a lot of our more ambitious players move on to win trophies elsewhere.
    We were better than Juventus over the 2 legs and should of won. We can beat Utd and should have put up more of a fight last Saturday. What’s the difference between us and them? They are regular winners of trophies and that’s what is expected of them. We are regular also rans and ultimately that is what everyone expects of us.

  • paul April 24, 2018 at 12:04 pm

    I supported Pochettino when he arrived.

    I’ve supported him ever since but with growing reservations that i kept largely schtumm about until the beginning of this season and then let fly after the FA cup debacle which was a turning point in my support.

    There’s no arguing we’ve been a far better and more consistant/resilient side to watch since he arrived and he’s given us many fantastic memories during his reign but..

    Continued tactical inflexibility and downright ineptitude in big games, freezing out Toby, selling Bonzo, continuing with a uselessly mute captain and being party to a gammut of shite signings etc etc

    Yes i know the Levy/Enic axis of evil is the over-arching issue here and Poch has positioned himself within that as he saw fit and it has ‘worked’ up unto a point but in so doing he has become possibly the least transparent/honest manager with the fans i can remember us having and it’s this disconnect coupled with the above which has caused me to lose faith.

    And i’ll bet my left nut some of the players have too.

    So bearing in mind the reality of life under Enic/Levy what are the realistic options?

    Carry on regardless and watch us slo-mo car crash over the Summer and into next season?

    Poch grows a pair and leverages his continuance with Levy against improved contracts for key players, a higher transfer spend and players he actually wants?

    Poch walks with full pay-off and NDA in place?
    Poch walks without pay-off and spills the beans?

    Levy cans him with full pay-off and NDA in place?

    Which is most likely?
    What do you want to see happen?

    Answers on a postcard.

    P.x

    • Freund or Foe April 24, 2018 at 12:17 pm

      Or none of the above. Instead, we continue to grow as a club, both financially and on the pitch. Some players might leave, some new ones come in. Some of the new players work out well, some don’t. We reap the financial benefits of CL qualification, increasing sponsorship and increasing match day revenue to pay our best players more and improve the squad, to a point where we can be more competitive with the richer and more successful teams that we are up against.
      I know it’s not quite as dramatic, but I think it’s a good plan. In fact, other than getting our arses out to Barbados and forcing Joe to put some money in, what other options do we have?

      • paul April 24, 2018 at 12:26 pm

        FoF, that’s a nice picture and it wouldn’t be a bad plan but it assumes years of continued appearance/progression in the CL (still not even in the bag for next season let alone any after that) and that your ‘some players leave/some players arrive’ scenario largely works out in our favour, which has distinctly not been the case. So I don’t see much firm evidence to base this on.

        • Freund or Foe April 24, 2018 at 12:36 pm

          I’d have to disagree. In the last financial year, our revenue and our player wage bill rose percentage wise more than any other team. You can check this if you like, you’ll find its correct. It won’t take years of continued appearance/progression in the CL, we are not too far off Chelsea and Liverpool above us revenue wise, the new stadium should see us very close to them. You may think that this season has not been as successful as last on the pitch, though I can see very little difference. The 8-10 points that we will probably end up with having less than last seasons total in the league is cancelled out in my mind by the improvement in the CL, where we got 16 points this season compared to the 7 we got against much lesser teams last season. We also got the the cup semi final.
          Your opinions are very much based on “what if” scenarios, I’m of the opinion that mine are more calculated.

          • paul April 24, 2018 at 12:41 pm

            The players and the fans are not excited/retained by rising revenues unless seen concretely fed onto the pitch/wages or reflected in cups respectively. You assume all will be will, steady as she goes and i don’t see any more factual basis for your scenarios than mine. I have one word for you FoF – EVENTS dear boy Events

            • Freund or Foe April 24, 2018 at 12:49 pm

              Paul, I’m debating here with you mate, which is what I thought you wanted. You are not excited by what is happening to our club, and nor are others, but please don’t try to pretend that your opinions represent all fans, they don’t, and you have no idea what the players think. You’ve ignored my points completely, and continued with sound bites of little merit. All this nonsense about Poch giving Levy ultimatums, Pay my players as much as richer clubs do, buy players that richer clubs can, it’s not in any way realistic. And I’m no boy, I live in the real world and don’t throw my toys out the pram and sulk like a child becuase I didn’t get the shiny trophy that I wanted.

              • paul April 24, 2018 at 12:58 pm

                This is going around in circles, you offset less points, less goals, less wins etc in the epl with a better performance in the CL and present that as a fact to wipe out the real fact that we will finish lower in the epl. I don’t think i represent all fans at all Fof and no i don’t know what the players are thinking, i’m going on a gut extrapolation of history and events. What will happen will happen, neither of us can do anything to effect that so i guess history will be the judge as to who opinion was closer

                • Freund or Foe April 24, 2018 at 1:13 pm

                  Sounds good, that’s a date. I’ve noted down your options of what is going to happen this summer as follows:

                  Carry on regardless and watch us slo-mo car crash over the Summer and into next season?

                  Poch grows a pair and leverages his continuance with Levy against improved contracts for key players, a higher transfer spend and players he actually wants?

                  Poch walks with full pay-off and NDA in place?
                  Poch walks without pay-off and spills the beans?

                  Please take a good look at mine, note them down if you need to.
                  It hardly seems fair, you have 4 options whereas I only have one, but I’ll take it.

                  • paul April 24, 2018 at 1:20 pm

                    Lolz, FoF i have not the first clue what is GOING to happen, those were some of the options that i though most likely to happen but who knows

                  • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 1:21 pm

                    The answer is he stays until his head explodes like AVB’s did.

                    Then Poch walks with full pay-off and NDA in place

                    • Freund or Foe April 24, 2018 at 1:26 pm

                      That’s what I like to see, commitment to your convictions.

                    • Harry Hotspur April 24, 2018 at 1:45 pm

                      Is that paperclip order or not?!

                      #AlwaysBeClosing

                      😆

      • paul April 24, 2018 at 12:33 pm

        Do you not agree that given the likelihood of Tobes/Rose departures, Bonzos loss, players bought this and last season largely not being up to scratch and a moral sapping 8th straight defeat in an FA cup semi-final, along with Shitty’s success and a resurgent Manure/Pooh that The Project is under threat and Poch/Levy have to offer more than steady as she goes?

        • Freund or Foe April 24, 2018 at 12:39 pm

          I think we will offer more this summer, though I agree that Tobes and Rose will go. I’d rather Tobes stays, he’s one of the best, but this happens in football. I’ll drive Rose to Manchester myself.

  • East Stand April 24, 2018 at 11:55 am

    I’m hoping that in light of our season so far, he stops pleading public poverty and gives the board an ultimatum – “Pay my players the going rate and buy me players that will turn us into real contenders, or I leave.”

    We all hope that will happen but Levy won’t concede the ground Poch would want. The business model is the decider here.

    As with Toby, a whole soap opera would ensue with Poch supposedly being ‘tapped up’ or seen to be wanting out regardless of expenditure.

    Poch is made to look like the villain and he leaves with a gagging order in place, just like Mitchell…

    • Panama Paul April 24, 2018 at 11:58 am

      or in a gimp suit with a ball gag.

    • paul April 24, 2018 at 12:13 pm

      He HAS to try Easty or it will be the death of him. The jig is up with players and fans. Problem is he has aligned himself so closely to Daniel it’s going to be incredibl;y hard for him to rollback from that but i see no other option for him. You’re right that Levy’s first instinct will be not to concede any ground but as i’ve said in earlier posts due to Poch’s relative success, increased revenues and the shiny new place Poch has a better chance than most. He won’t get all he demands but i think he could get some of it. He HAS to try.

      • East Stand April 24, 2018 at 8:47 pm

        Try what though?

  • coogy April 24, 2018 at 11:43 am

    I just picked up a wave of hindsight from future Coogy on Toby:
    He’s wondering how did this happen? How did the club manage to treat the best defender in the league so badly and why did we let him go?
    What would have happened if he had not gotten injured, would he have been gradually eased out of the team anyway?
    Isn’t it a shame that a player we all loved so much and is arguably the best defender we’ve had in the Prem was totally cut out of a team he had given so much to.
    It looks like this is what we’ll all be wondering in a few months time. What a pity.

    • David Dillenberg April 24, 2018 at 12:43 pm

      +1

    • Nick April 24, 2018 at 12:51 pm

      One side of the story,what dod Toby do to be treated like this??? Typical agent led player.why does he deserve city type wages ? What has he won ?

      • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:04 pm

        What has he won? The admiration of other clubs who WILL pay him more.

        • Gloster1861 April 24, 2018 at 1:05 pm

          Oh, and trophies in other countries. Just not with Spurs.

          Prediction: he’ll win stuff when he leaves as well.

  • chrism090861 April 24, 2018 at 11:41 am

    I think that it would be dreadful for Levy not to realise that some good investment now will pay dividends in a big way. I agree with you Harry, it was fine margins, it’s not like Manure played us off the park, and we came away thinking that we were light years away from them, and that their players were better etc etc. Investment in a proper manner would have meant that Toby would have played, Kyle walker would have been at Right back, and someone would have been playing in place of a very tired and out of sorts looking Harry kane, who we could have had some sort of faith would have got us a goal. Nobody is saying that Levy needs to go out and buy a new team, all we are asking is for those ‘Fine Margins’ to be taken up a notch and we will finally get our noses over the line is semi finals and the like..

    • Panama Paul April 24, 2018 at 11:56 am

      The only margins Daniel has any interest in are profit margins.

  • caveman April 24, 2018 at 11:27 am

    We’ve been saying it for a long time now, but Levy has a plan and whatever manager is in the hot seat will play Levy’s game or ‘it’s up the road’.

  • Bruxie April 24, 2018 at 10:42 am

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    • paul April 24, 2018 at 11:19 am

      +1