Date: 21st January 2013 at 11:55am
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Good morning.

Old Slur Alex wants to slow down before he does himself an injury. 71 years old and he’s leaping about like some sort of teddy boy in tea-cosy. Unbecoming is what that is. Quite how he thinks this constitutes a penalty is beyond me. Caulker cleanly takes the ball. You can establish this be watching how the ball changes path after Caulker’s shoe taps it away.

I made the point for the umpteenth time on the last blog about these games being the benchmarks. The points whereby you can take stock. And so we’re getting better. I don’t know the last time we took 4 points off Manchester United in a season but my guess is was probably filmed in black and white.

The complete joy of it was the fact we never gave up and kept pressing until the job was done. A stark contrast to some of the spineless and frankly effeminate dross we’ve served up in the past. Clearly the boss doesn’t do, ‘it was difficult out there, didn’t know if the games was gonna be on until late’ or ‘We battered ’em, but I know one or two of the boys got very cold towards the end.’

It was this focus that we must inflict upon everyone. Manchester United have scored a lot of goals this season. the quality of van Persie’s header reminds us of why. If we can play to this level mentally, against weaker sides then we have something almost quite special on our hands. Might.


The keeper Slur Alex should have bought. A remarkably quiet shift against the league leaders which said more about us than it did about them.


Gormless chimp.


Coped well. A credit to the firm. Penalty? What the gif.


Again, another perhaps unremarkable but assured and mistake free performance.

Sir Les



Really in the mood. Powerful.


They done a job on ‘im.


One of his best performances in the shirt yet. Ever get the impression that a player was actually being nurtured?


As long as no bits fall off him like a leg or a head we have the perfect cover for Sandro.


A bit nothingy.


If we had signed Beckham, Beckham would have scored less, cost more and arguably sold fewer shirts.


On the last day of this season he will know with absolute certainty that ‘Chelsea’ was not the defining moment of his career that some would like to say it was. When you have Slur Alex looking at his watch you are doing good works.


listen now

  • gus January 23, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Like him or loathe him Dempsey has a habit of popping up in the right place at the right time and slotting the ball in the back of the net, and he was very good in general play also

  • PeterTheStoreyTeller January 22, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Clint has earned his Spurs and should start in the future,we should move up a notch as a team with our performance against manure.

    • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 10:11 am

      Agree. The more i see of Clit, the more i like Clit.

      • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 10:14 am

        Clint (f*cking dunce x2)

  • Boy Charioteer January 22, 2013 at 7:01 am

    On the news this morning it says that the FA are serious about SAF. We’ll see.

    • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 10:09 am

      David Gill is vice chairman of the F.A.

      David Gill is also Cheif Executive of Manchester United.

      The worst that SAF can expect is a £10 fine and made to sit in the posh seats for 1-3 games.

      I bet he’s shitting himself!

      • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 10:13 am

        Chief (f*cking dunce).

  • melcyid January 22, 2013 at 1:12 am

    Benny says lol

  • ronwol196061 January 22, 2013 at 12:40 am

    AVB has treated his players with respect.Even though I thought he should have used Lloris earlier,he set a trend that tells players that they have to earn their spurs.More and more players look the business with us and hopefully somehwere along the line he may yet find the keys to Defoe,Ade and Walker.

    and Bentley,what about Bentley?



  • MHSpurs January 22, 2013 at 12:18 am

    I’m really getting sick of people on here slating Walker. Tottenham fans really do play favourites. Fecking group think mentality! Considering age, fee and available options we are very lucky to have a player with his potential. The same type of comments were being bandied around about Lennon over the past few years.

    Naughton (flavour of the month) gave the initial ball away, and was then out of position next to Cauloker when the ball was played out to Cleaverly. A good left full would have filled the zone between center half and wing instead of standing on the center half’s shoulder.

    Dembele (flavour of the month number 2) and Parker failed to track Cleaverly and allowed the move to happen.

    Lennon failed to put a tackle (or any pressure) on Wellbeck.

    RVP was Dawson’s man. Dawson (flavour of the month number 3) didnt mark anyone, leaving Walker with 2 men when the cross came in. Walkers only mistake was being on the wrong side of RVP at the time and this was because they were playing an offside line on the edge of the box. This would not have been an issue if Dawson did his job and pic.

    Loris (flavour of the month number 4) should not have been beaten at his near post.

    So by my reckoning at least 6 players played a part in allowing the goal to be conceded but Walker gets singled out and crucified! Please get some perspective.

    • MHSpurs January 22, 2013 at 12:20 am

      *picked up the center forward.

    • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 1:24 am

      We generally like a good scapegoat down the Lane. Not me though. I’m too busy slagging off northerners, scousers, mancs, geordies, westaaam pikeys, arse goons, blue racists and just for pure comic effect Mr Jermaine Penis (and even he ain’t as bad as some make him out to be, is he?)

    • PeterTheStoreyTeller January 22, 2013 at 8:25 am

      MH :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve: :Approve:

    • Razspur January 22, 2013 at 11:04 am

      MH, you will obtain the right perspective if you base your player ratings on the whole match rather than MOTD highlights, either go to the games or watch the full match on TV then you should be much better informed and capable of making a worthwhile decision on each players contribution or not. There’s no bandwagon here, Walkers mistakes are obvious to all, what about that pass back to Lloris ? Most work Lloris had to do all day. Where was the pressure on RVP for his Headed Goal ? It’s not Rocket Science.

      • MHSpurs January 23, 2013 at 2:17 am

        Thanks for the assumptions. Explains a lot about your views. I was at the game and have also watched the recording a couple of times.
        People like you wont be happy until wed have a tarrico type at full back.

  • Nick Hibbert January 22, 2013 at 12:07 am

    Just to follow up on my earlier post re KW (12.27PM)…
    There is an interesting analysis of the Manu goal here:
    I will leave you to draw your own conclusions.

  • notsohotspurs January 21, 2013 at 11:56 pm

    Regarding the Rooney penalty appeal.

    If that had been Bale he would have been booked for diving. :Sad:

    • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 12:15 am

      If that had been Bale he would have got to the ball first because he’s not a granny shagging fatty boom boom.

    • Essexian76 January 22, 2013 at 12:33 am

      You’re so right, it’s pissing me right off, because that’s no difference to Bales ‘dive’ which had resulted in 4 yellows so far-it’s bollocks!

  • Finn January 21, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    I really am hoping we are being pro-acticve behind the scenes as we head towards the sharp end of the window. Most of the obvious dumb links are starting to peter away leaving only some of the wilder suggestions, but given that those links are dropping away what are we left with?

    Forgetting Holtby for the minute, are we interested in anyone else? The two names that still come to mind are Mouthino and Willian, but given the complexities of the first and the propensity to random explorations of the never-never of the second, are either real prospects; if not who might be?

    Similarly with strikers, Remy’s all but gone, but was there something on the nose that we (the public) didn’t know about this guy, going to the bottom club for fourpence? So Llorente, Negredo or the long shot of Leandro, appear to be the prospects, however wild they may seem……..or are these speculations so wild?

    Surely AVB would not be looking for the odd marked down can of span to pad out the bench; any addition to the squad has to be a genuine addition. Levy must also have spotted that the inaction of last year at this time cost us how many millions in lost revenue for not getting CL. There is also the fact that we(DL) failed to secure players in the summer that we had earmarked and reportedly reached all-but-final agrements with. So could Mouthino still be a genuine punt? If DL was ready to splash 20+ million quid on him is Leandro really too expensive. Sure the bloke that runs Internacional comes over (in all fairness) as a South American Daniel Levy, but is this really too hard to contemplate?

    We appear to have few prospects: of course the pyramid is thinner at the top and we are now (or should be I hope) less interetsed in squad fodder, also there are no nods, winks, twitches, or car window exclusives about “top top players” and “good boys”. So to the observer, we are either doing nothing or are appearing to do nothing whilst negotiating like mad… I tend towards the latter as DL has never been a man to let the grass grow under his feet and seems to genuinely like the “the game”.

    So would Willian, Negredo or Llorente be that hard for him to secure, especially after he’s surely been in touch with the reps before: would contacts there have not leaked more that they have to date? Surely these would be deals that would be capable of being done by now, so are we holding out for harder-to-nail deals before following up on a contingent basis should they fall through? Leandro has been chased and earmarked by us for what 3-4 years now and Mouthino was all but done but missed the lodging deadlines? The silence is almost worse that the cheery cockney banter!

    • Jamie January 22, 2013 at 12:13 am

      Moutinho Porto wont deal – and actually for £25m I’d rather take Holtby, give him more game time and spend on other areas of the team. Wide player, Striker kitty (probably for the summer, though always worth a bid for Damiao – just for old times if nothing else, we’ll probably bid for him every year until he retires).

      Willian is the one player I’d really love this window if we’re dropping some big money. He looked superb against Chelsea and covers so many positions, without freezing any of our gems out of the team game time (Sandro, Dembele, Lennon, Holtby, Bale).

      He’s the only get-able BIG player I can see on our list.

  • Chrispurs January 21, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    Re: Beacher report: Jimmy Grimble posted about 1 hour ago Contributor I

    Ferguson is the biggest hypocrite in world Football.

    He diverted attention away RVP and his violent conduct claiming he could have been killed and now he attempts to do the same from his team being dominated by spurs by referring to them “pumping the ball into the box”.

    In reality Spurs had more possession with 18 shots to Uniteds 4. The biased media gave no attention to Kagawa cynically hauling down Dembele and later Defoe in the box, nor did they choose to replay or comment on Ferdinand blocking a shot with his arm in the box or Lennon being held back while Bale hit the best cross of the match. All the post match attention was on Rooney and how he deserved a penalty for kicking Caulker and falling over as he was running into no mans land.

    If you only caught the highlights you could be forgiven for thinking United were hard done to, such is the quality of their propaganda.

    Ferguson laid into the officials post match despite his team statistically and consistently being favored more than any other team. He is a complete disgrace, other managers are regularly punished for criticizing officials.

    The fool then argued that it was the same linesman at White Hart Lane had ruled a Drogba goal onside in 2010 and that this had a say in the title being “lost”. Deluded United fans often use this 3 years old example as evidence that decisions go against them sometimes. The truth is they are a complete joke in the minds of fair minded football fans, the thing about this example is that it is further evidence of the corruption in football. Chelsea beat United 2-1 with that famous offside goal but Fergie has forgotten that United’s “goal” that day was a clear handball by Macheda.

    This season we saw Chelsea have 2 men sent off v United Torres saw red for being fouled! They then went on to win the game with an offside goal by Hernandez. Didn’t hear slur Alex complain about the officials in that game.

    Roll on his retirement, perhaps then the corruption rooted in the English game will finally be exposed and teams will have decisions awarded on the game itself rather than the reputation of Fergie and the business interests surrounding him among the sycophantic media.

    Great article, I commend you for having the balls to write this. Too many Journalists are running scared from this old tyrant.

    • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 11:54 pm

      Tell me about it. MOTD were all about what went wrong for United rather than what went right for Spurs. Maybe we’re just a good hard working team?

    • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 12:26 am

      Couldn’t agree more but hardly revelatory. Anyone who’s been watching football for more than five minutes knows how Newton Heath & SlurAlex operate. Personally, i’d take it as compliment. The more SlurAlex rants and raves about this and that about an incident in a game that his team hasn’t won only goes to show how well the other team performed- it’s a classic diversion tactic. Focus on an ‘incident’ rather than the fact that his team didn’t pick up three points. As for the poodles in the MSM………..nothing new or surprising there either.

  • Razspur January 21, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Worst Everton performance this season, lost too many balls in mid field, toothless up front ! Very much below par, certainly don’t look like a side challenging for a top 4 spot. No urgency.

    • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 9:57 pm

      Let’s hope both our seasons are the reverse of the last one then?

    • TheCincinnatiYid January 21, 2013 at 10:06 pm

      Mind the gap. . .3 up on Everton, 7 on the Arse. AVB’s theory is to put distance between yourself and those below you. So far it’s working, but we need wins, not ties.

      • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 11:52 pm

        Arsenal’s game in hand is West Ham on Wednesday. If we have got Diame coming in as rumoured, we should leave him be until after this game!

        • Essexian76 January 22, 2013 at 12:27 am

          You and me should share a glass, it’ll never be empty that’s for sure

        • UnkleKev January 22, 2013 at 2:59 am

          Arsenal don’t have a great record against West Ham so I’m more than hopeful they’ll drop points in this one … which would serve to make us a very attractive proposition should anyone wish to come aboard before the end of January.

      • Essexian76 January 22, 2013 at 12:31 am

        Draws CinYid-there called draws-get with the groove man :Who-s-the-man:

        • Essexian76 January 22, 2013 at 12:31 am

          they’re,I meant

        • CincinnatiYid January 22, 2013 at 3:09 am

          Thanks. Knew I had lost something in translation. Perhaps a little precocious imbecility.

      • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 12:39 am


        More of a cravat man myself.

        • Essexian76 January 22, 2013 at 10:50 am

          Don’t mention ties to Ron, he’ll be up the Seven Sisters Road looking for Big Dave’s shop

          • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 11:07 am

            I can see Ron sporting an acid house designed kipper round his neck giving it ‘ooooh sooooper darling’ as he minces up & down the Seven Sisters, which of course would not end well.

            Doing that up & down the King’s Road however :Whistling:

  • SpursSince67 January 21, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    My hope for Holtby being got in this month appears to have been dashed…


    Like the guys vernacular, has some grit like Sandro it seems, he’d be welcome.

    • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 9:33 pm

      Wouldn’t say so – they’re just holding out for more money, usual late window posturing. They want Bastos and want a bit more money from us to limit the hit on net spend.
      For all we know they could have whacked their price up when the saw Sandro was out – Levy would!
      I reckon if we don’t get our attacking targets (as seems likely) it will get done. For all Holtby willing to give his all he’s not going to go throwing himself into 50/50s with a medical to take in at Spurs in June and no long contract at Schalke.
      Makes sense for them to switch for Bastos and do it as cheaply as possible.

      • SpursSince67 January 21, 2013 at 9:53 pm

        I agree, good comments, it’s never over till the…it’s the sort of deal DL would love to play with at the death so it might happen yet so let’s hope.

        Just feel we need a a couple of extra strings to our bow so we finish this season strongly after the last two. With the Toffees firing blanks tonight it all looks very promising. Bearing in mind we are still in two Cups presently so lots of games yet.

      • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 9:53 pm

        i did suggest a while back that if we we’re to get Holtby, it would go to the wire. Simply the longer the windows open, the more Shalke hold the upper hand,as each day get’s nearer to the close, the more Levy expect an 11.59 deal

      • LLL January 21, 2013 at 10:02 pm

        Holtby will join before the window closes 100%. Pure brinkmanship now and I’m sure Levy is enjoying every moment of it.

        Problem is, I don’t really think his signing will address our most urgent need.

        • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 11:43 pm

          I’m convinced it can. The main reason we’ve had to switch to 4-4-2 is because Sigg hasn’t settled.
          AVB has adapted to what he has at his disposal (and full credit to him), though would prefer a 4231 or ideally 433. He talked about it early in the season.
          He’s not had any real incision in the team, so creativity has had to come from team movement, lots of 1-2s, and lots of pace to drag markers around.
          With Holtby he can get more out of his lone striker. He can play 433 with Bale and Dempsey on either side – or say Lennon on the right with Ade in the middle.
          Suddenly we’ll be more balanced and be able to un-pic and just overwhelm teams who try and park the bus.
          Massively important type of player to his preferred system.
          It also mitigates the striker problem as suddenly it’s 5 forward for 3 spots – Bale, Dempsey, Lennon, Ade, Defoe. Impact subs, cover – the lot.
          Sounds all a bit abstract and theoretical but Im convinced it would radically improve us and am pretty excited about it.

          • LLL January 22, 2013 at 12:04 am

            Can’t agree I’m afraid. If he was going to be the player to elevate us instantly and not the player to – say – come in in July and have a pre-season to acclimatize etc – then I think he would already be here.

            I don’t know a whole lot about him and doubt anyone else does either. But if he was going to have such an impact right away, I couldn’t see Levy putting it off for the sake of a million quid, which is about what he’ll cost to come in now.

            • Jamie January 22, 2013 at 10:37 am

              I’m not an expert on him, but I’ve seen him a few times in the Europa last year (once against Bilboa I think, where he was good but not great) then again this year in the Champions League against Arsenal where he was magnificent. Watched him again against Hannover on some dodgy link at the weekend, the man tore it up.
              I don’t think it’s hyping him up to say he looks like the metronomic player to set the tempo we’ve been lacking, and has a really strong mentality and is half English – so I’d expect him to settle quickly.
              Schalke are a big CL club, he won’t have left being a starter there to sit on our bench. Especially mid season whilst they’re still IN the CL, no chance.
              Ideally he’d have pre-season – but he’d get into the team on merit and improve us immediately, 100%. I have no doubt about that. Also he’d be that bit more settled for next year, so why wait?
              We’re haggling over a £1m, worth haggling over at this stage in the window.

        • Essexian76 January 22, 2013 at 12:26 am

          Nor do I LLL,he’s not one or the other, we need a striker, no question about it, but we all know that already-it’s getting the right bloke in that’s the problem

          • Jamie January 22, 2013 at 10:59 am

            There’s more than one way to skin a cat and improve us going forward. We need a great striker, so do most teams in Europe. We’ll keep on working at it – but if there’s no improvement available, just about the worst thing we can do is overspend on a striker who isn’t better than what we have.
            We’ll be stuck with 3 forwards in the summer, and back to the whole Pav, Keane, Crouch debacle when none would go and clubs would only offer us 20p.
            We have 2 1/2 players that can play the no.9 role. How much game time is an average striker going to get? If it’s a loan, that would be smart for cover, but not £6/7m+ eating up wages and not really offering much.
            We can get more goals out of our strikers by creating better chances, and by being able to score 1st more often so teams have to come out.
            Holtby for me, and back to 4231 or 433.

  • Razspur January 21, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Jelavic & 0-2 @ 30/1

    Real Betis to win 2-1

  • DAVID January 21, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    We defended well apart from their goal when we were a shambles.

    They swept the ball out to our right flank and we had nobody at right back.

    Then they switched it to our left flank and we had nobody at left back.

    Then they crossed it and none of our 4 defenders even challenged for it.

    A big worry for me is our inability to get Bale more involved in games.

  • Boy Charioteer January 21, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Touchline ban for SAF mooted. More chance of charging The Queen with loitering with intent.

    • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 11:30 pm

      Shouldn’t that be ‘looting’ with intent?

  • xildnparadise January 21, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    Someone made a point yesterday which I really liked and would think Leeds is a good place for the experiment….

    Start Thud and move Dembele behind Dempsey up front… There’s obvious chemistry between the two, both run at players in the middle which should open things back up for Bale and Lennon….

    Correct me if I am wrong but is that not the way they were used so effectively by BMJ at the Cottage last year???

    Besides Walker, I think Dafoe could use a game or 3 on the bench to try and get his shit back together….

    • onedavemackay January 21, 2013 at 6:15 pm

      With you all the way on all that

    • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 7:26 pm

      I’d be bang up for this if we’re talking the 2010 Thud. The 2013 Thud ain’t been cutting it, refuses to get himself fit, and causes us to get completely over run in midfield. I had sympathy with his issues, and used to be a big fan of his that season he paired with Modric. I think it’s got to the point where he needs to move on and completely re-build himself as a footballer.
      Swap Thudd for Holtby in that, and that line-up could be the business.

    • Urbane Sturgeon January 21, 2013 at 7:29 pm

      I thought that’s why we brought Belly in, to play right behind the striker/s. Hence his being described as a mod replacement. Wikipeed calls him a centre midfielder/playmaker; I’d like to see him make play a little more and as you suggest, further up field.

    • LLL January 21, 2013 at 8:13 pm

      With respect, I don’t think that’s his position. He is best at picking up the ball, holding off and dribbling past his midfield opponents. For that, you need space to run into, which you don’t get playing further up the field. He doesn’t really have the passing vision to play the short through passes from what I’ve seen and his shooting is also a bit lacking so I don’t think playing him behind the striker is an experiment likely to yield much.

      • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 9:10 pm

        Dembele said in an interview he much prefers playing no.8 to no.10. He also said he really enjoys the defensive responsibilities of the no.8 role.
        I think Dembele, Holtby, Parker would be superb with them interchanging roles i.e. collects the ball from deep, who supports the striker etc.
        So much harder to stop than last year when teams sussed out…If you strangle Modric, VDV will drop deep to get the ball and won’t have the engine to get up and support Ade.

  • Urbane Sturgeon January 21, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    In Caulker we saw a touch of what sometimes makes me nervous watching Daws defend in the box namely the propensity to unnecessary put a foot in when just a physical presence will do fine and carries, I would argue, less risk. It’s something which Walker did to great effect all last season and it would be nice to see the two of them master that particular craft asap. That said, I do like that ABV% gave Corker the nod and rested Verty. What confident rotation, what a psychological boost for the lad,what an impressive and imposing lack of safety play by the boss. I do hope that sort of thing makes the difference during March/early April.

    Still haven’t been able to pinpoint why, for their goal, they had 2 (count em) spare players at the far post. This wasn’t a single defender slip, it looks more like a team organisational issue; Walker looked completely caught out but also mighty miffed at someone; sort it out fellas.

    No one had a bad game yesterday, just what was needed. Even Bale’s lack(ish) of form recently invites the notion that we wouldn’t suffer his loss very much if at all.

    Solid and convincing result, more please.

  • MattSP January 21, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    I love the comment about the boss Harry…

    I love the boss!

    COYS!!!!!!! BIOYFC!

  • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    Newton Heath and their granny shagging hero didn’t get awarded a penalty………….boo fackin’ hoo. Good!

    (Hugo would have saved it anyway!).

    • Boy Charioteer January 21, 2013 at 4:43 pm

      Yes, Shreck missed one the other day, didn’t he?

      • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 4:51 pm

        Even if fatty managed to get yesterdays hypothetical penalty (and that’s a big ‘if’) on target, i’d back Hugo.

        • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 5:08 pm

          I’d back Grandad!

  • LLL January 21, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    Found this for you Essex. Don’t shoot the messenger though. :Approve:

    • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 4:30 pm

      LLL,you could speculate that Adam of Burnley or Rhodes or Fletcher or Doyle or Drogba and so on and so on..the fact remains is still you’re posting and commenting on media/agent speculation, which was my intial point-We have no evidence of any firm bids-in fact the only item of substence which actually validates my point was that AVB said we’d spoke to Willian’s club, and we cannot afford him-now that’s pretty clear in my opinion, that players in that bracket are out of our range, so are those of a lesser value any better than what we’ve got?

      • LLL January 21, 2013 at 4:35 pm

        No, you’re right actually Essex. I don’t think there are any strikers out there anymore, and if there are, they are definitely out of our price range. We’ll probably never be able to buy one again.

        • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 4:39 pm

          DJ Campbell’s available…………………

          • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 4:46 pm

            So is Mido……dont be shy give him a pie

            • LLL January 21, 2013 at 4:51 pm

              Funny you should say that, cos when we bought Mido he did a job for us for a while (scored some goals) and didn’t cost much (think we even made a profit selling to Boro). See, I’m not saying we have to sign Messi, but if you think an absent Ade and Defoe is an adequate strike force (or that there is literally nothing we can do to add to it as you keep making out)….????

              • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 5:28 pm

                LLL,I’m not disagreeing with you,I’m simply saying that these day’s we don’t have an open car window policy-nor are we anymore aware of what’s going on than the media have? Levy and the team are aware of our needs, but surely they have to fit the managers plans and the clubs pockets-if there’s no-one avaiable, then you can’t just magic them one can you?

                • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 5:30 pm

                  ‘magic one up’, I meant

              • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 7:43 pm

                Notwithstanding this is wild speculation that they are available, two play in leagues with minimal to 15% tax rates for foreign footballers (deliberately to promote their leagues, Sneijder ain’t joined Galatassary for the prestige) – hence net wage offer has to be over £100k for ok players (who we would then be stuck with).
                The worst thing we could do now is over react to Ade’s fortnight absence and buy another Crouch or Pav who we can’t shift.
                Then you’re into prospects at a reasonable price, who is playing little enough that their fans won’t crucify them for selling them mid season (we’re not the only club with ambitions – or may loose out on revenue by not having a goalscorer) – but enough games that we know they’re worth the money.
                Not easy…

                • LLL January 21, 2013 at 8:17 pm

                  A fair bit of assumption and guess work there. I don’t know the prices nor the wages and don’t pretend to.

                  I don’t think it’s over reacting to Adebayor’s absence. I don’t think two strikers is enough to see us til the end of the season, especially seeing as Ade has only scored 1 goal so far and Defoe is limited at the best of times and seems to have gone off the boil anyway.

                  • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 9:00 pm

                    I feel very let down by Ade this season. He dicked about at the beginning of the season, lost his place then (allegedly) sulked at not playing. Then all these silly quotes about AVB. We showed a lot of faith in him, the least he could do is shut up and keep his head down and get his form back.
                    I think he’ll realise when he gets back that he can’t bitch about our new manager and get sympathy from the fans, as after a shaky start we are now firmly behind him.
                    Therefore I have faith we can get him back to his best last season (and in brief flashes this year). Between them we have enough goals, I just don’t see the point of getting someone only equal to them just based on dips on form.
                    They have to be immediately better, or potentially better. Otherwise we’ll just tie up funds and stagnate or go backwards.

                    • LLL January 21, 2013 at 9:37 pm

                      But as I said, quite aside from the fact that either or both of our strikers are misfiring, we only have two, which isn’t enough. An injury to one would be pretty bad. As AVB himself said, it’s a risk to go on with only 2 strikers.

                • nobby nobbs January 21, 2013 at 11:04 pm

                  i thought we sold Crouch and Pav. Didnt lose much money either. Try selling a 3yr old car for the price of a new one.

                  • LLL January 22, 2013 at 12:06 am

                    We did – even spun a small profit on Crouchy too. Problem is, we didn’t even replace those 2 turkey’s yet.

            • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 4:54 pm

              Never did Gazza any harm.

              • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 5:05 pm

                Well…………….not THAT much harm!

                • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 5:06 pm

                  Replying to my own posts………..sad tw*t!

                  • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 9:58 pm

                    1st sign of madness Billy?

                    • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 11:28 pm

                      That ship sailed a long long time ago :Crazy:

                    • Essexian76 January 22, 2013 at 12:38 am

                      But has it docked?

                    • Billy Legit January 22, 2013 at 12:50 am

                      Docked, loaded and waiting for the green light from the coast guard.

  • Spur of L.O.S. January 21, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    A great result to equalise, considering how deep they dropped in the 2nd half. Made even sweeter by getting such a late goal in “Fergie Time” and then seeing his face after the goal went in.
    Lennon was fantastic and hats off to Parker who silenced a few (myself included) critics, a good performance with the tools we currently have.
    Walker is struggling, and hopefully will be rotated, but cannot shoulder all of the blame for their goal, the whole defensive line were all over the shop and perhaps Lloris should have done better at his near post…………however, a great result so let’s rejoice instead of picking fault, all teams make mistakes, they pounced on our one big defensive lapse.

    The pen: after several replays, I’d say it was. Caulker got to Rooney fractionally after Rooney had touched the ball away, difficult call in real time, and about time we got something in our favour.

    Give AVB the players he wants and we could be onto something here.

  • Sid Trotter January 21, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    I like Ade’s movement, holds the ball up so well and makes space for others – he just needs to score more

    Defoe does the opposite

    1 plays for the team, and one plays for himself

    I prefer playing with myself

    • Deano January 21, 2013 at 3:07 pm

      I personally think ade has a horrendous first touch…… Couldnt trap a bag of cement on occasions.
      As every gooner I spoke to warned me, He will lose interest after the first 6 months.
      I denied this and STILL back him to the hilt…..
      I just hope he bucks his ideas up otherwise I will be proved wrong.

    • Billy Legit January 21, 2013 at 4:34 pm

      I like playing with my scalextric.

  • Matt Loveridge January 21, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    While everything that Walker does is gormless and Naughton is a glowing genius of the game, I’d have to question his hesitation to get anywhere near Cleverley’s run when he was the spare man over, then when Cleverley actually had the ball he remained ten yards away with his hands behind his back swaying like he was on a fucking log flume. The goal yesterday came from nobody knowing who they were marking, for which credit goes to United’s system (who had any idea how they’d line up given the starting XI?), then Welbeck and Cleverley switching sides to make the goal. We could have been quicker to work out who had to take care of who, but credit to us for sorting it out, not giving them that kind of space again, and nullifying their threat on the break. And equalising of course.

    • Deano January 21, 2013 at 3:04 pm

      Hard to play at left back when you are in all essence a right back.
      No surprise Naughton gets caught out going that way.
      Naughton is just keeping the spot warm for Benni
      Do you honestly think that Walker is a decent full back???

      • Matt Loveridge January 21, 2013 at 3:15 pm

        Nope. Walker needs to work on his defending, working as part of a unit. He often provides a threat going forward, but hangs around too much when he gets there. Luckily he has the pace to usually get back and sort it out when he’s caught out of position like that, which can make him look like a hero. It would be a great asset really, if he just worked on his timing of those forays forward more, and retreated when the ball was lost. He has the makings of a world class full back but he has work to do.

        Naughton I’m not sure. He seems to have more intelligence going forward, but without the athleticism that makes him probably less of a threat. Defending it’s hard to say, because we’ve seldom seen him at right back. I think Walker needs dropping, and Naughton given a chance, which would be in agreement with the concensus on the blog. The caveat being that this should provide competition, give Naughton a chance as well as making Walker pull his socks up, as opposed to just saying Walker’s shit, get rid of him, this Naughton guy we’ve never seen play is the business.

        • Deano January 21, 2013 at 4:03 pm

          A very fair point. Cant argue with any of that!!!!!
          I want Walker to become a better player. Maybe Naughton deserves a chance.

  • kojac January 21, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    we didn’t fold and pushed them back until we got what we deserved,right at the end it makes it all the sweeter,we looked like a team at the end of the day which is what i want,we won’t get anywhere unless we are a team,

    i think we’d want that penalty if it was the other way round to be fair

  • Yidinjapan January 21, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    This is a nice picture :Tounge-Out:
    It’s a close up of a glum SAF with AVB ecstatic in the background

  • Razspur January 21, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    I made it ;

    Lloris. 8.0
    Walker. 5.0
    Dawson 7.0
    Caulker. 7.5
    Lennon 8.5
    Parker. 7.5
    Dembele 7.0
    Bale. 6.0
    Dempsey 7.5
    Defoe. 5.5

    Even without his superb assist Lennon was the star, Dempsey kept at it and Parker just doesn’t know how to stop running.
    Walker and Defoe, need i say more ?

    • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 6:53 pm

      Lloris 8! what was that for – clearing snow from his crossbar whilst he had nothing to do? Don’t get me wrong he’s a world class keeper as he proved against the roma mafia, but since joining us he hasn’t exactly been overworked which kind of undermines the moaners about our defence capability, that’s really encouraging. Walker no lower than 6 – you’re just jumping on the bandwagon here and over analyising him.
      Defoe caused some problems and stopped from scoring by a miracle Rio interception, so worth 6 minimum.
      Razspur are you son of son of hotspur by any chance?

      • Razspur January 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm

        How very dare you sir !

      • Razspur January 21, 2013 at 11:36 pm

        A back pass from Walker gave Lloris more to do than any of the Man U attempts at goal.

  • JPG466 January 21, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Look at the GIF again…. Rooney is already looking for the linesman BEFORE he even lands to the ground.. .pre-mediatation at its best… that is a classic Man U dive, deserving a yellow card

    • norffy January 21, 2013 at 2:22 pm

      I think it is irrelevant where Rooney is looking, it is where the ref is looking that makes the difference.
      You can only see from this angle on slow motion that as Caulker goes for the ball, Rooney flicks it away with the outside of is boot and takes the ball away. As a result there is no ball there when Caulker gets the tackle in and as a result he takes Rooney out, just inside the box.
      Penalty = bothered

      • Deano January 21, 2013 at 2:59 pm

        Well said. and….. Bothered….

  • Deano January 21, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Had a nose through all this. Some quick comments of my own.

    1) Lloris never at fault for the goal. Great header by RVP.
    2) Walker at fault for the goal but not helped by the rest of them.
    3) Walker gets caught under the ball at least twice a game and always gets turned inside out. He isnt, and never will be a premier league full back. If he wasnt an athlete he be working in MacDonalds.
    4) Lennon finally looks like a quality winger. After all this time he is finally being challenged and trained. Bravo AVB.
    5) Rooney is fouled. Its a stonewall penalty. If that had been against us we’d be up in arms on here.
    6) I love Spurs. That last minute goal gave me such a buzz it was worth the ridiculous 30mph drive back up the M11 and A120…….

    • Razspur January 21, 2013 at 2:32 pm

      I agree with all your observations.

      • Deano January 21, 2013 at 3:00 pm

        Thank you sir. I feel football is a simple game. Played by simpletons.

  • Dorset Spur January 21, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Looking at the GIF, Rooney jumps up in the air as soon as he brushes against Caulker’s leg. The ref got it right in my humble opinion.

  • TMWNN January 21, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Regarding the need for a striker, completely agree with LLL. It’s been four years ffs! Are we going to wait another four years until the right one falls out the sky? Buying expensive players will always have a certain amount of risk, but failure to invest in a department so sorely lacking is outright negligence.

    As for essexian’s ‘We cannot just go out and buy a WC striker can we?’. We already have, Defoe – toilet!

    The idea that if some bloke on a blog can’t name a suitable striker means that there aren’t any out there is imbecilic.

    • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 2:12 pm

      if defoe is the toilet then adebayor is the contents, i know which one i’d rather keep.

      • TMWNN January 21, 2013 at 2:21 pm

        Yeah, me too. Adebayor can get lost, but Dempsey and codpiece won’t cut it.

    • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 2:27 pm

      Yeah, I’m looking for an intelligent answer, just having difficulty in finding one? How does your reply make any sense whatsoever? We all know we need a striker, but even an idiot like you must realise that we as a club have limitations?-perhaps fans buying a more ‘tat’ would swell the coffers? or perhaps waiting until puberty finally happens in your case would be better served before posting

  • LosLorenzo January 21, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Great team performance built on a foundation of belief and confidence.

    As for the Manure goal, yes, Walker did a poor job of marking Van P. He was far from the only player at fault, though. We lost our shape entirely in the buildup when Naughton races over from LB to take up a position close to RCB. Yes, there was space there, but it wasn’t his job to cover it. This leads to Daws shifting a bit left. Then Naughton tries to get back into position, and Daws fails to take up his natural position. Daws was actually the one who should have had Van P, but his absence forces Walker to cover him (leaving another red shirt outside him completely unmarked). Naughton’s momentary lapse forces our midfielder (was it Dembele?) to drop back to LB, leaving Cleverly with acres of time and space to put in a pinpoint cross (which even if he had marked Van P closer, Walker would have struggled to stop). Lloris’ effort can also be questioned, leaving space at his near post, although that is being very picky. So don’t go blaming Walker alone for the goal – there was some generally pretty shoddy defensive decisions being made by several players.

    As for the “penalty”, it’s a tough one. Even with replays it’s hard to say for sure. If the refs were in doubt, they did the right thing in not giving it. In general there were a lot of other clear calls that went in ManU’s favour (Kagawa for example should have had a yellow for blatant shirt pulls on two occasions).

    I am unreliably informed that the last time we took 4 points off ManU in the league was 23 years ago, the last time we did them at OT.

    P.S. Is it just me, or is the new site a bit sluggish? Long load times in general, and when I type there seems to be a long delay. Have the same problem at work, at home and on my phone (regardless of which browser I use). Sufficiently frustrating that I typed this in Word and CTRL+V’ed it.

    • jfdit January 21, 2013 at 1:34 pm

      their goal came from poor defensive play across the back four, no pressure on ball whatsoever, this at left back meant cleverley had time to pick out his man, dawson and caulker were too advanced so were playing facing their own goal and walker allowed Van Pervert to get both behind/above him with again no pressure. None of the manure players were even challenged let alone marked.

      a poor goal to concede as too much space meant it was gift wrapped for a world class striker

      on the site I find it less buggy than the previous 3-4 sites HH has been on, not so good on the iphoney though

    • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 2:10 pm

      a defender struggling to mark van persil? oh how dreadful – walkers ready for the scrap heap then? it was a superb header from a great striker, this might be difficult for some but we don’t need to blame anybody, really.

  • betty swollocks. January 21, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    The reason fergie causes a media storm about the penalty, and filling this blog with disscusion, is that it takes away the fact we outplayed them, they only had 4, yes 4 shots, the lowest all season.

    He does it everytime they loose cause the the papers concentrate on that, not the game.

    Who gives a flying fuck if it was a penalty or not? We took 4 points of red nose this year 😀

    Also AVB is impressing me more and more, i love the post match when he flicked away the penalty question and rightly said we were awesome. . . . which is english for immense.

  • jfdit January 21, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    sorry HH, I think you’re making a wrong call on the penalty shout, rooney’s right foot clearly gets the ball and caulker’s attempted challenge trips rooney (or rooney runs into caulkers leg). Anyhow it was a tight call which went our way for a change

    we got lucky and maybe Foy was giving something back after routinely cocking up most of the games he oversees with us, he didn’t give us anything else in the game

    I was amazed by manure’s game plan i.e. parking the bus – I think a few top teams are getting worried about us

    • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 1:07 pm

      On MOTD looked like they both went to play the ball in the same direction and Rooney gets there a split second earlier. I feel no guilt in this though – United get far more decisions than us and most other teams, and we deserved all 3 points let alone 1.

    • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 2:08 pm

      def penalty in my book, most refs would have given it. about time we had a bit of luck against them though, so lets celebrate it. if that had been JD or Dempsey we’d ahve been screaming for it right?

    • theboyhotspur January 21, 2013 at 3:33 pm

      I was trying to lure in some Man United fans. I think it was a pen. Well, in this day an age, anyway…

      • jfdit January 21, 2013 at 5:47 pm


        you been out building snowmen?

        new blog looks smooth & like the :Caveman: :Beaten-up: :The-Incredible-Hulk: :Angry: :Happy-Grin:

      • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 6:44 pm

        You forgot that most man u fans cant read, stillI I guess that’s why you put up a video right!!.

  • TommyHarmer January 21, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Was it a pen; wasn’t it a pen???? I don’t FUCKING CARE. If Manure had got away with it (think Webb pen given against Gomes. or Clattenberg’s ‘play on’ fiasco) this would have been dismissed by red nose as ‘rub of the green’. United always get distinct home advantage from refs, and we rarely do; I don’t think Foy did us any favours yesterday, apart from that reading of the one decision, but we still controlled the game and were superior for every stat other than the ‘goals for’ column. So, in order to keep up the ‘we’re invincible’ bluster, Rudolf had to deflect attention from a hanging on strategy by claiming ‘we wuz robbed’ and that Spurs ‘lumped the ball into the box’. In the circumstance, this was a good tactic as time ran out against massed defence, but he can’t allow it to be seen that way because then his team loses face. Our response to this shouldn’t be to argue the decision, but to quote Fergie back at himself. COYS!!

  • BrizzleSpur January 21, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Sorry BH, but it was a foul. Rooney pushes the ball wide beyond Caulker and Caulker puts a leg in front of Rooney’s left foot. I must add though that SAF should probably act with a lot more humility being one of the most influential managers in the world. They’re 5 points clear at the top with only the ‘easier’ opponents to play this season so he could of easily shrugged it off. It’s very disrespectful to assume that victory was all but yours only to have lost it due to decisive errors from the officials. It might also have something to do with the fact that they did not create enough chances and we largely stifled when attacking due to capable opposition. I think he panders to the Manure fans with all this “we were robbed” bullshit.

    May as well just ignore Walker, it’s a running joke now. He adds to the attack at times but defensively he’s useless. Crap even.

    Dempsey then, well I never. He doesn’t get a lot of love on here and that’s mostly because he’s not particularly fancy or technical. What he does have is dogged determination and bundles of aggression. Just the two games he’s played against Manure will secure him a place in my lily-white heart. Ultimately we need some1 better I know, we all know, he probably knows too. But at least he’s willing to fight for a place rather than wander around in a strop.
    And of course Lennon. Lennon you wonderful little bastard!

  • SteveG January 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Rooney right foot moved the ball to the right at the same time as Caulker planted his right foot down in the space that Rooney had to put his left leg.The forward motion of Rooneys left foot struck the back of Caulkers right leg – in effect kicking Caulker.
    SLOW MOTION shows this clearly so the ‘discussion’ is whether this is a foul challenge or a ‘coming together’ and therefore not a foul.
    From the referee’s viewpoint from behind the ‘collision’ he can see Rooneys foot strike the back of Caulkers right leg whose body is mraginally infront of Rooneys.The ball also moves to the right albeit done by Rooney and so this usually means the defender has got to the ball first.
    The asssistant referee may or may have not been loooking at this action at the time but again may have thought the movement of the ball indicated a defenders touch.Assistant Referrees are usualli instruced to be 150%(yea I know) sure beofre indicating a penalty.
    At most top professioanl clubs all youth players take the referees course and afterwards 99% of them will not want to referee a game even at junior level.
    The match officials will always make mistakes but luckily not as many as the players.

    • Gilzeanwasgod January 21, 2013 at 12:55 pm

      At first sight and from the referee’s angle (all he has to go on) it must have looked as if Caulker just took it off Rooney’s toe. Foul or no foul, it is perfectly easy to see why he didn’t give it – a point seemingly lost on ORN and the ‘experts’ in the studio.

  • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    Seems like Leeds’ relationship with West Yorkshire Police are the reasons for the paltry 3000 visitors tickets next Sunday.

    Can’t pay…won’t pay!

    • jfdit January 21, 2013 at 1:21 pm

      always needle with leeds and any big club, we got attacked at the semi against everton in the car parks by those morons, they thought punching people with kids and women was well hard

      biggest load of wankers I’ve ever had the misfortune to meet, oblivion in the lower leagues is where they belong

    • CptCaveman January 21, 2013 at 3:12 pm

      Thats disgusting, I thought the Coventry lot at the last FA CUp game were rowdy, I’d hate to goto watch the match there and win! Shouldn’t happen in this day and age.
      What really grates me about the above link though is, its OUR 2000 supporters that cannot go??!! Hang on, so Leeds are the thugs and our support suffers! Surely they should have a reduced allocation because of it, or better still, if they cant be trusted, it should be an automatic away tie for them.

  • Yid Vicious January 21, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    As much as the whole defence let Lloris down in the build up to the goal, a great keeper, like he is, should have saved it. Not sure why he thought diving into the back of the net was going to help after he was caught out leaving too much of the nearside of the goal for RVP to aim at.

    Cracking performance from the team though, bossed the game and regardless of the biggest penalty shout not going United’s way, Foy still showed their cynical hacking and shirt pulling more leniency than it required so Slur should probably shut the f up.

    • 4 Ever Hopeful January 21, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      Not sure he could have saved that but he could have seen the mess that Dawson and Walker had got into and come for the cross.

      • LLL January 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm

        The cross came in from Naughton’s position but he was nowhere to be seen. And Lloris could and should have saved it, beaten at his near post.

        • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 12:49 pm

          If Friedel had let that one in there would’ve been hell to play on here!

          • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 12:53 pm

            He wouldn’t have got anywhere close!

          • BrizzleSpur January 21, 2013 at 12:54 pm


        • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 12:50 pm

          If someone had flicked the ball in at the near post that would be different…

          Just how many near posts are there?

    • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 12:48 pm

      Oh, give over!

      Lloris was not at fault. It was the perfect header from a player left unattended at the far post.

      Even a “presence” of Walker or Dawson would have put pressure on RvP.
      When the cross came in it was not Lloris’ near post. He had the whole goal to cover and was let down by chumps.

      • LLL January 21, 2013 at 12:56 pm

        Looked weak to me. I think Lloris is a great keeper. But he was weak for that goal, whatever the defence was doing around him (as I say I think the main defensive failing was the cross being allowed to be flung in in the first place. After that, Lloris should have made the save. It was only the ‘perfect’ header cos it flew past him!)

        • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 1:00 pm

          No credit for RvP, then!

      • Yid Vicious January 21, 2013 at 1:03 pm

        They were the biggest errors, of course but my point was that Lloris made it easy for Van Persie too with uncharecteristically poor keeping. I only mentioned it becuase it seems to have been overlooked.

    • Phil January 21, 2013 at 12:55 pm

      That was my initial reaction but seeing the replay from teh back he was in a goos position – its just a great header. Walker has to look over his shoulder and put some pressure on RVP though.
      Slight tangent, but what was the plan from corners? Outswingers from both sides, rarely getting by the first man. That is one thing the Sky boys got right – should have been putting pressure on De Gea

      • spudulike January 21, 2013 at 1:09 pm

        …I could see that goal coming from about 6 passes back…the defence were al over the place. If Lloris had saved, it would have been a brilliant save, but the real problem is that van Persie was given a free header — the ball should never have been allowed to get crossed like that in the first place. Manure one chance, one goal, Spurs 20+ chances, one goal, says it all

      • klinsmannfan January 21, 2013 at 1:36 pm

        Great team performance and even Lloris can’t get everything right ALL of the time – it’s impossible ………..but I wouldn’t exchange him for any other premiership ‘keeper – Czeck comes close (some would argue he’s better right now) but Lloris is much younger and will hopefully be an asset for Spurs for many years.

      • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 2:05 pm

        give walker a break, van persil dropped off into space while the cross was in the air – its what he bloody does to everybody, you’re suggesting walker should have a head that goes all the way around like an owl?
        i read a man u blog this morning that wasn’t blaming walker but suggested that just maybe lloris should have got there. personally having watched it over and over it was just the perfect header, end of.

  • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Really pleased with how we are defending as a team of late. Since Everton, 3 goals conceded in 8 and with 5 clean sheets.
    That’s magnificent and can only improve with the return of Kaboul and Benny (and Vertonghen?).

    • LLL January 21, 2013 at 12:38 pm

      Think Dawson deserves some credit for featuring prominently in this run. Especially from those who were slagging him off and hoping we sold him last Summer!

      • 4 Ever Hopeful January 21, 2013 at 12:41 pm

        He looked like a carthorse yesterday though.

        • LLL January 21, 2013 at 12:44 pm

          ?? Were you smoking something when you were watching the game?

        • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm

          What game were you watching for heavens sake? Dawson played superbly, led by example and I can only recall one loose hoof the entire game-and that’s coming from one of his biggest critics!

          • klinsmannfan January 21, 2013 at 1:54 pm

            Hi, I’m quite new on here but have noticed Essex and LLL both being passionate for the cause that is Tottenham but ……not always agreeing so it’s good to see you both holding the same view re Dawson.

            Re the need for a new striker – have to say I’m with LLL on this one. We humble supporters can’t be expected to have the time to scout world football and unearth the right guys but we have needed a striker for some conidierable time and yes Michu or Lukaku would have been great!

            • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 2:33 pm

              Take Lukaku as a great example-that kid cost Chelsea about 16m-and they loaned him out!-we simply couldn’t afford to or have the means to do that-That’s exactly my point, Michu is another that a lot of clubs looked at or were offered,not only us, but all but Swansea looked elsewhere-as I said hindsights a wonderful thing, foresight’s another thing entirely

              • klinsmannfan January 21, 2013 at 4:16 pm

                I accept things are always easier in hindsight but Lukaku was affordable – indeed in precisely the price range we’ll probably end up investing …… we wouldn’t have loaned him out AND he’d have scored well into double figures for us by now.

                • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 4:35 pm

                  With respect, you’re surmising that he’d be banging them, and also that we were been looking at him, where I\m suggesting that given his age and price tag, it would be a gamble Levy couldn’t possibly undertake, nothing against the player, but I’m only trying to be a realist

                  • klinsmannfan January 21, 2013 at 4:55 pm

                    You’re right Essex; it would have been a (calculated) gamble (all signings are of course a gamble to some degree)……but let’s hope our Chairman takes one soon. The great thing is that as Spurs fans we can be increasingly confident that we’re heading in the right direction.

                    • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 6:30 pm

                      Yep,I agree-it’s just in our case,we can’t just throw big bucks in to get Silverware,we have to be a lot more astute and canny.but give me ENIC over SAS anyday of week

                    • LLL January 21, 2013 at 8:19 pm

                      Of course we have to be more careful in the transfer market. I personally believe that equipping your manager with just two strikers isn’t too canny though!

                    • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 10:04 pm

                      I’d think LLL, that’s hardly a revelation to either AVB or DL anymore it is to you or I,however solving the problem is another matter-after all DL did secure a 24m forward for 5m, and even he’s not good enough for many on here-so, I’m guessing the ‘team’ are searching high and low as we speak?

        • Phil January 21, 2013 at 12:51 pm

          Did he? Given RVP had one chance in teh whole game I’m not sure what the problem is. The QPR game with his belief he is Glenn Hoddle was a different matter

      • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 1:03 pm

        100%. I’ve been turned around on him, thought he was too slow for the high line (which he still is) but AVB has managed to accommodate him and he’s been brilliant. I’m still not sure he’ll get enough games to be happy once Kaboul is back as him and Vert looks like our partnership for the future, and we need to bring Caulker through.
        The club won’t be able to sit on an £8m 4th choice 29 yr old defender when we need a striker (un romantic as that sounds), so still not sure he’ll be here long term.
        Credit where it’s due though, fought his way back in and great for the dressing room.

        • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 1:22 pm

          One of the plus points about our current situation is we’re still in three comps, and can play different players in those games to select the best team for Prem games. For instance, I’d like to see a mid 3 of Parker-Hudd-Dembele on Sunday-with Lennon and Bale on either flank. Benny to play and Naughton on the right. Benny need to get match fit, as was evident yesterday

    • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 2:00 pm

      I agree with that except for the lack of penetration against qpr. if teams can get a point from doing that each time then we’re going nowhere fast. Otherwise very encouraging and bloody superb to stuff old whiskey face in fergie time. Shame it wasn’t the winner but rome wasn’t built in a day.

  • JPG466 January 21, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    Rooney does it with the after-act… scream & gesticulate at the officials as much as you can

  • LLL January 21, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    This is quite interesting / promising from the boss:

    “We have a good squad but we know we are at risk with the striker situation,” he said. “We can take the risk but it doesn’t mean something can’t happen before the window closes.”

    • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 12:45 pm

      Everyone knows we need a striker, You and I,Levy and AVB know it-but it’s not as though there are quality strikers just waiting for a call from us. Unless we’re talking about those like Remy, who are no better than Defoe. Somehow people think we’ve got mega wedge to lay out on a single player-and the selling club will just roll over and let us have him-whoever he is?

      • LLL January 21, 2013 at 12:52 pm

        Pfft! We need a striker, we’ve needed one for 4 years – why are you so willing to accept defeat? ‘There are no strikers out there’ ‘We can’t afford to buy any of them’

        If the Geordies can pull out a Ba or Swansea a Michu it means there is value for us to be found too. It’s not as if our scouting team haven’t had enough time on this!

        TBH it sometimes feels as if your blind love for Daniel means that you end up making excuses for his failings before / in case he makes them! And imo not signing an attacker in this window will constitute a failure to serve his manager / the club adequately.

        • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 1:07 pm

          It’s not nor ever been a case of accepting defeat, more one of being a realist. We cannot just go out and buy a WC striker can we? Neither do I believe we’re just marking time waiting for likes of Kane to mature. When there’s a striker better than we have and at a price we can afford who happens to be available, then I’m sure we’ll be in for him, but it’s pointless just buying ‘anyone’ surely?

        • BrizzleSpur January 21, 2013 at 1:17 pm

          In all fairness Ba was a stroke of luck. After securing a pay-as-you-play gig at WetSpam he left the club for free triggered by the relegation clause. Newcastle knew they were getting someone capable for free and took the risk on that knee of his which cost him a move to Stoke a year previously. Very rarely does it pan out like this. Plus a release clause of £8M isn’t something I’d want a Spurs player to have.

          Michu was a great bit of business! But I wouldn’t be surprised if his head is turned very soon and his agent must of arranged a similar release clause. These players come to England for the big money moves, and their contacts with smaller clubs reflect this.

          The gems we’ve unearthed over the last few season haven’t left for a measly £8m we made serious ‘bank’ on Carrick Berba and Modders because as well as finding talent we also did some great business in terms of contracts.

          You can’t doubt our scouts in light of some of the players we’ve brought in. It’s the business end of things that make it very difficult for our club to bring in players who can’t leave us for a pittance once the bigger prem teams come calling.

          • UnkleKev January 21, 2013 at 4:18 pm

            Well said. It’s all too easy to criticise our scouting network for what it hasn’t done whilst forgetting to give praise for what it has.

            • LLL January 22, 2013 at 12:10 am

              If a building team laid down great foundations and built a fantastic house but neglected to put the roof on top would you sit there in your lovely sitting room congratulating them on a smashing job while the rain and snow pissed down on you?

    • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 12:54 pm

      I think we’ll make a big move in last 2 days to get one of Damiao or Willian, I think either one would be very difficult unless the selling club decides they want to deal.
      Once Willian is ruled out we pay the money for Holtby who would solve a lot of problems, and ship out Huddlestone if able (we hear we can).
      If we can get one of Diame / Sissoko on the cheap that would be a bonus (and probably listen to offers for Parker in summer or following window once Sandro is back, great as he’s been for us – he’ll want to play and Levy will want his money back before he’s worth nothing in order to spend elsewhere).

      • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 12:59 pm

        LLL – I take you’re point, and we should have been in for Jelavic and Cisse last year, but can any of us point to bargain striker we should get this time round?
        Those players aren’t necessarily there for the taking in every window, but when they are we should be more organised.
        Damiao and Llorente sound impossible for us. Llorente wants Juve, money won’t solve that and they have MUCH more of it.

        • LLL January 21, 2013 at 1:10 pm

          No idea how much money we do or don’t have, and I’m not a highly paid football scout with contacts with all the top agents so I won’t point you to any under-valued gems! I just know that a premier league team hoping to break into the top 4 will need more attacking options than we have right now.

        • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 1:12 pm

          You beat me to it-Like who-C’mon LLL, who are we supposed to buying-name names- and their price and I’ll have a word with DL and see what we can do?
          You’re the master of hindsight , so let’s have a little foresight for a change eh?

          • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 1:19 pm

            LLL that’s a fair point – but it could also be said that we as fans lump the responsibility onto the club to find a cheap-ish striker just because we need one, when it’s entirely possible one doesn’t exist for this window.
            To put it another way, I don’t think the problem is a lack of
            1. Awareness of the problem.
            Nor 2. Moderate resources (in the less than c£10m range).
            Last year it was 3. A lack of expertise in missing out on a couple.
            This may or may not be the problem this time around – though we were on the ball with Holtby and that in itself is encouraging imo.

            • LLL January 21, 2013 at 1:25 pm

              As I say, this is hardly a new problem. Can it really be possible that there hasn’t been a striker for us available in the market for all this time? is that really what you’re trying to say?

              Yes, strikers are expensive – just as expensive for us as every other team.

              • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 1:50 pm

                Playing devils advocate, scouts can just as easily earn the wage by stopping a club signing someone.
                If someone had found out that Bentley had such a risky temperament we would have saved ourselves £25m odd in fee and wages.
                Scouting has been a problem in past 2 years, we used to be great at it – now it’s Newcastle and Everton.
                I’m hopeful the change of structure with AVB will change that, certainly I sense the club are aware of the problem with some of the targets since Harry – but time will tell.

          • LLL January 21, 2013 at 1:21 pm

            See last response Essex! Pointless me saying who we should or shouldn’t buy. Not my job. People get paid a lot of Levy’s money to do that job!

            Keep seeing us being linked to Damiao and Willian. Yes, I’d take either or both. But then it doesn’t happen and you will tell me that’s because we can’t afford them. Which begs the question as to why we are still perpetually linked with them? If they aren’t happening we should be looking at targets we can make happen surely.

            It isn’t about just signing ‘anyone’. The team needs strengthening so that AVB has a good chance of fulfilling Levy’s top 4 target.

            • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 1:31 pm

              So, you’re none the wiser then? enough said because if it’s not your job to have an answer your own questions then what’s the point in asking them in the first place? But equally you assume there’s a striker shop where we can just pop along and get one off the shelf….?

              • LLL January 21, 2013 at 1:39 pm

                Arrghh! Like I said, it’s not my job! Plus if I mention any ‘known’ names you will just tell me we can’t afford them – even though you don’t know how much money we have to spend. And I’m not a football scout, just a part time fan and follower so I don’t have an indepth knowledge of the emerging talent across the international leagues!

                I knew next to nothing about Holtby before we bought him, but it looks a decent deal. That’s part of the job of running a football club – nobody ever said it was going to be easy!

                • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 2:38 pm

                  But you continually say about us being linked with players when no offers for players have actually been made, so you are referring to media/agents and not concrete bids made by the club. The thin we wanted was professionalism, and that’s what we now have. AVB has stressed the need for a striker and to openly say that would indicate we’re looking at behind the scene and not sitting there scratching our gonads as you seem to be intimating-love and peace Man

                • TMWNN January 21, 2013 at 3:04 pm

                  Wasting your time there, LLL. God forbid a PL football team looking to compete with the ‘big boys’ should have more than two strikers on its books. Hiding behind this ‘not available’ ‘not enough money’ nonsense will get us nowhere.

                  • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 3:25 pm

                    Well, even a juvenile like you would at least supply a semblence of an answer-so, c’mon then enlighten us with your’ wisdom’-sorry,had to stop myself from offering a LOL there!

                  • Jamie January 21, 2013 at 4:52 pm

                    LLL is right in that there’s not point having anyone. We’re at our best with 1 up either in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.
                    We have 2 ok strikers that can play as a number 9.
                    There is little value in getting a 3rd of similar ability, just to cover Ade for 2 weeks (he could be back to us by the end of the window even).
                    Getting someone better, or at the very least someone who could be better who can also play wide (plus their cost must fit the risk). This the very particular challenge we have.
                    What very few players fit this profile, we’ve been rumoured to be in for.
                    Damiao, Llorente, Son at HSV, and Adrian at Atletico (£15m buy out clause).
                    HSV don’t need to sell, and Athletico are having the season of their lives hence reluctant to move (can you blame him).
                    Without a proposed solution (and I take the point it’s not our job as fans) but it does illustrate how difficult a problem it is to solve – much as everyone would love to solve it.
                    The summer will have much better options, a lot of dead wood has been shifted, we won’t have over spent on other positions, and we could even have CL to offer.
                    I’d rather have a go at that than overspend on a prospect or average journeyman and limit ourselves in the summer.

    • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 1:58 pm

      GET IT SORTED LEVY or you’ll get called a “gormless chim”p here.

  • Essexian76 January 21, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    I always thought by running into a player, as Rooney clearly does, then appealing for a penalty on the back of it-was classed as simulation and therefore a booking, or is that only if Bale doe’s it?

  • Nick Hibbert January 21, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    Walker at fault for their goal but ‘gormless chimp’?
    Somewhat unfair.
    Why is it you guys have to have a whipping boy to vent your frustrations on?
    How long has it been for Lennon to finally show some end product?
    How many times has BAE gone walkabout?
    Show some support & give KW some breathing space huh!

    • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 12:32 pm

      Some breathing space on the bench for a couple of games.

      Too much too soon for Walker.

      He’ll be struggling to get in the England squad again on this form.

      You have to admit he has been useless of late.

    • fatbloke January 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm

      “Gormless chimp” is far too harsh. Yes, he is at fault for the ManYoo goal but aside from that he was ok. I agree that he is not the player he was last season for some reason. Perhaps it’s a lack of confidence or something? But, he is a good prospect for the future and needs support not ‘brickbats’.

      • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 1:22 pm

        He only gets brickbats online.

        No harm done unless he’s daft enough to come on here.

      • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 1:56 pm

        I agree, but HH gets his jollies from these sort of insults, I’m sure he’s a big teddy bear really (or gormless panda?) but he’s after a reaction from us. anyway chimps are everyones favs right?

      • nobby nobbs January 21, 2013 at 10:54 pm

        Walker does loads of things well and a couple of things wrong again and again which means other teams will seek to exploit this.
        He should want to sort it out.

    • Razspur January 21, 2013 at 1:47 pm

      How many more chances do you suggest ? I thought he was very good for most of last season, where has it gone, he’s a liability and just is not improving, would love to see a real turnaround but we are in the crux of the season where even relegation fodder will up their game, no easy ones in the run in. Walker has had too many chances needs benched for a fortnight to clear his head, while he thinks he’s first name on the team sheet he won’t improve.

    • BoBo le Silverback (London Zoo) January 21, 2013 at 7:13 pm

      My lawyers will be in contact with Mr Boy Hotspur in the morning to answer an assertion of defamation with a reasonable claim for damages. Pip, pip!

  • `rich g January 21, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Rodneys leg tried to go through caulkers, but that isnt possible, so he fell over, not a pen

    • bruno eruga January 21, 2013 at 7:06 pm


  • 4 Ever Hopeful January 21, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    So much was positive. I agree about the pen and its amazing that Redknapp jnr and a really narked Neveille (boy did he blot his copybook) did not pick it up. The key point is the direction of the ball; if Rooney did not kick it how did it veer direction 30 degrees?

    Completely agree with the point made above about BAE and Naugton. BAE has to come back in but Naugton is worth a go at right back because for all his pace and power, Walker is a real liability and has been all season. We are going to need a new right back. I guess in the short term it could be Naughton, Smith or Kaboul when fit. However Kaboul and Vertonghen is my preferred centre back pairing.

    Really surprised that Vertonghen was on the bench yesterday. Dawson had a poor game, even by his standards and Caulker lost some composure towards the end. Jury is still out on him for me.

    I know they did a job on Bale but the midfield yesterday was great. Dempsey got better as the game went on. Defoe was…Defoe and he needs to be replaced by a proper centre forward with a physical presence and who can finish. For Gods sake Levy get the bloody chequebook out!

    • Gilzeanwasgod January 21, 2013 at 12:48 pm

      Dawson had a poor game? Was I watching something else?

      • UnkleKev January 21, 2013 at 1:08 pm

        Amazing, isn’t it. We restrict United to their fewest shots-on-goal total for almost two years and our defence gets criticised. Lloris was a virtual spectator for the whole game for crying out loud. The entire back line switches off for ten seconds and get punished for it, but apart from that I thought they were pretty magnificent. And I include Walker in that appraisal as I’m struggling to see (goal aside) what he did wrong yesterday.

        • Razspur January 21, 2013 at 1:40 pm

          Apart from almost score a peach of an own goal ?

    • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 1:54 pm

      Urm vert was on a sicky. If you hadn’t been watching KW’s every move I’d say he did okay, made a good challemge or 2 and tidied up a nasty situation once that he HAD to win. I think this could be a case of obsession with this kid, still takes the pressure of JD for a bit I guess! Saying Walker was to blame for the goal is stretching it a bit, the best defenders in europe would have a prob with van persil – you could also add that le octopus was beaten at his near post?

      • UnkleKev January 21, 2013 at 4:15 pm

        The whole defence switched off for their goal; the two central defenders were nowhere to be seen and the goalie could probably have made a better fist of it than he did. But it clearly suits some people to hold Walker exclusively to blame as it suits their agenda better.

        • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 6:39 pm

          so i’ve noticed!

    • mattspurs January 22, 2013 at 2:05 pm

      I’ve got to say all the criticism for their goal being put at Walker’s door is a bit harsh – yes he didn’t judge the flight but RVP is Dawson’s man. However the biggest culprit is Bale – he’s made no attempt to get back and defend, Cleverly’s time and space a result of Bale thinking he’s now our centre forward.

  • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    What to do about Walker.

    I didn’t like his blaming gesticulations after their goal.
    I hope he knows what he did after watching it.

    If Vertonghen can be rested for the Man U game, then I’m confident AVB has the gumption to drop Walker.

    If not for Lennon we would have suffered down our right. Man U targeted Walker in the second half – fortunately not well enough as Evra was too busy with Lennon.

    Good to see the Dembele/Carrick dual. Two good players giving it everything.

    • CincinnatiYid January 21, 2013 at 12:37 pm

      Vert was ill. So said he on Twitter.

      • spudulike January 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

        ah…I was about to ask if anyone knew why he was on the bench

  • JPG466 January 21, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    Not only wasn’t it a penalty, it was a clear dive from Rooney…. just look at the way he looks for contact and takes off immediately..

    And they call Bale a diver !…. you know what the difference is… the Man U divers are taught to continue the diving act by getting up and screaming at the ref or linesmen, pre-empting any innocent defender in telling them to get up and on with it… then of course there’s the backing from Ferguson at half-time or full-time… and further backing from the media in making that the whole issue of yesterday’s game, when as even Ferguson admitted, Spurs contributed to make this match a thriller.

    It’s so obvious a ploy, should now be past by its sell date, but Man U still keep reaping the rewards… the fact they didn’t yesterday was that prior that Caulker/Rooney clash, the ref had favoured Man U so much, he said to himself ‘ they’re one-up anyway’..

  • SpursSince67 January 21, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    Was waiting for the bus to Long Term T1 parking around 6pm ish on Sunday, bringing to an end a truly dreadful weekend in Germany thanks to Heathrows inept ability to handle snow like our Nordic cousins (National disgrace compared to Gatwick which had more snow…) which meant I nearly missed my chums 50th Birthday bash, when another German friend called to see if I got back ok…

    Being a footie nut like me he told me that to make matters worse we were 1 – 0 down with 2 mins to go and that Van P was of course the scorer…that just about capped it for me…and while we quickly changed the subject I could hear his wife screaming in the background for all the right reasons and that Duece had slipped one home…there is a God after all, we concluded.

    Thanks to winter tyres I managed to get home the wrong side of Oxford while all around me people were emulating Dancing on Ice in time to see MoTD 2 to savour the match. Got to be well happy with that performance and I think HH your ratings are about right. Lennon clearly is having the season of a lifetime, and has turned around my opinion of him.

    Over breakfast on Sunday my chum Torsten told me that he thought we had made an excellent purchase with Holtby, stating that he is highly rated in Germany and will he believes he will over time mature into a serious regular player in the German squad, reckons we got him for a bargain for sure. I hope DL pays the extra to get him in early so that we can bolster the squad in the final stretch. He also rated the Korean that Bild claim we are in for.

    Glad SPURS lifted me at the end there and I’m really looking forward to the next few matches, COYS…


  • Cheeky Bill January 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    This was a grown up, rounded and battling team performance. A light year away from the regular ‘Audlley Harrision’ impression that we have been used to against United. The team can now move ahead with greater confidence – they wore the shirt well. Having said that, the bench looked a little thin and didn’t seem to offer as many options as an aspiring Champions League team should. We are two injuries away from difficulties. I hope Danny boy took notice.

    • klinsmannfan January 21, 2013 at 1:41 pm

      I agree with all your points Bill…….and also think we’re just 2 signings away from being seriously good – shame we haven’t got Mata and Lukaku!

    • spuds4me January 21, 2013 at 1:47 pm

      Agree – an injury to Demba belly and we’re fooked. Levy time to put your arm extension on and reach into that legendary deep pocket – begsy I have the titanic ticket that’s bound to come out.

  • Titanium Hotshot January 21, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Did the manure media watch a different game from the rest of us? If we’d ‘parked the bus’ we would have a real slagging. Instead of that we dominate and don’t get a decision nor even a mention.

  • Bluzza Add January 21, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Best performance in ages. Play like that week in and week out and we could be competing for titles Easier said than done. Penalty shout was very close. Bit of a silly challenge by the young man!

    • LLL January 21, 2013 at 12:30 pm

      You have to score goals to win titles. One goal per game won’t normally cut it

  • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    One of the best moments of TV punditry took place yesterday.

    Gary put Jamie in his place.

    He was spot on for telling him it was a poor punch from De Gea and that Championships are decided on such things.

    OK he kept them in the game and probably saved them from defeat. But he cost ’em two points.
    You can imagine how he is missed in the Yanited dressing room.

    Cannot wait for tonight’s analysis on MNF.

    “…And he knows it…he knows it! Look at him!”

    Watch out Jamie…he knows you are a softy!

    • Hot_Spur January 21, 2013 at 2:11 pm

      No he didn’t cost them 2 points, he SAVED them 1 point. If not for his lucky legs getting in the way 2 or 3 times we would have won.

      • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 2:15 pm

        See 1st post!

        • Hot_Spur January 21, 2013 at 3:27 pm

          Yes ok, then why say he cost them 2 points?? Contradicting yourself.

          • Bruxie January 22, 2013 at 8:52 am

            Think a little bit more than usual and you’ll understand.

    • Matt Loveridge January 21, 2013 at 2:33 pm

      So refreshing to have a pundit who doesn’t just nod and agree

  • Lordy January 21, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    To be fair I believe we’ve played as well and lost in the past but what i can say is that when the league leaders (by some way)come and deploy the same tactics as QPR it means people are taking you seriously. But what this also screams is that from now on every team bar maybe Chelsea are going to do the same thing so it follows that we really need a striker and a player with guile by the bucketload who can play across the forward three. Sneijder would have been a perfect fit but he obviously was thinking of money with his latest move. Its time for Levy to back his man, I disagreed with his cutting his nose of to spite his face policy with Redknapp but thankfully/hopefully its paying off now he has to back him.

    • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 12:17 pm

      I don’t think Arse are capable of parking a bus.

      You’re correct that every other bugger will do it though.

      If that doesn’t tell the boys how good they can be, then they are missing something.

  • TMWNN January 21, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Looks like Shrek moves the ball to the right before Caulker comes in to me – penalty. Although it’s so difficult to call, even after watching repeatedly in slow motion, how the hell could the official call it? He couldn’t be sure, so he didn’t give it.

    • Lordy January 21, 2013 at 12:14 pm

      For me its a blatant pen i hope HH was being funny saying it wasn’t

      • UnkleKev January 21, 2013 at 12:57 pm

        How is it blatant? From the ref’s position it looks as though Caulker nicked the ball but from other angles it becomes clear that it was a foul. As Pat Nevin tried to point out on MOTD2 last night (whilst being shouted down by those muppets Hansen and Murphy) there’s no way the ref could have given it from his position. A penalty? Yes. Blatant? No way.

        What made me laugh was Ferguson dragging up a Drogba offside from three years ago in support of his case. Juist once I’d like to see a reporter have the balls to come back with something like, “Well if we’re dragging up issues from the past, how about Pedro Mendez?”

        • Finn January 21, 2013 at 9:58 pm

          Shrek was playing for the penalty, just look at how his back legs head skyward almost before there’s any contact! He’s a a cheating bastard and I suspect Fergie sent him on to cheat as they were getting nowhere by fair means.

          • Taco muncher January 22, 2013 at 7:20 pm

            Absolutely right. Shrek was going to go down regardless of contact. From this angle it looks like caulker played the ball although be probably didn’t. However, only if you’re manure is this considered an absolute, stone – wall, etc pen. C*nts!!!

    • Essexian76 January 22, 2013 at 12:44 am

      How is that a penalty?-even with the benefit of numerous replays and a lifetimes experience Dermot Gallagher said ” Never a penalty, I thought so at the time, and after countless reviews, I’m saying the same’

  • AVB January 21, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    Next game, A&E back on the left, and Naughton on the right.

    Harry, if you want Walker at QPR, just name your price.

    • Lordy January 21, 2013 at 12:13 pm

      Maybe Walker just needs a rest weve relied on him for too many games , we need two players for every position. Also Harry needs his money to take Huddlestone

  • Bruxie January 21, 2013 at 11:59 am

    We would have won that but for their keeper’s leg!