Date: 11th November 2017 at 7:31pm
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Stonewall is Britain’s leading charity for LGBT issues and the Premier League will now join its global diversity champions programme, which works to improve diversity and equality here and abroad.

The league will also up its efforts to tackle homophobic abuse, whether in stadiums or online, and will focus on improving its reporting measures and training staff at clubs to better address homophobia.

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In a statement, Premier League executive chairman Richard Scudamore said: “Premier League football is for everyone, everywhere and our clubs are committed to equality and diversity at all levels of the sport.

“We view the LGBT community as an integral part of our community and, working with Stonewall, we want this partnership to improve the experience of LGBT people already playing football, and supporting clubs, and to signal to others who might be interested in getting involved, that they are welcome to do so.”

 Last season, the Premier League, English Football League and FA took part in Stonewall’s Rainbow Laces week, the biggest show of support for LGBT equality in sport to date.

The campaign will be repeated this year, between November 24 and December 3, with plans for a show of support across a round of matches announced next week.

The continuing reluctance of gay players to come out during their careers remains a significant issue for men’s football, particularly when it is compared to the women’s game or even other men’s sports such as cricket and rugby.

FA chairman Greg Clarke memorably told a panel of MPs last year that he would not encourage a player to come out at the present time because he was worried about the reception they would receive from the terraces and on social media.

Clarke added at the time he was “ashamed” that a player had yet to feel confident enough to do so.

Stonewall chief executive Ruth Hunt, however, is optimistic that football is becoming more tolerant.

“The Premier League have stepped up and demonstrated how committed they are to helping make football inclusive and welcoming of LGBT people,” said Hunt.

“The reasons for the lack of LGBT inclusion in sport are complex. There’s no 10-point charter, or pledge that will prevent someone for shouting homophobic abuse. It needs concentrated work, careful attention and a thought-through strategy to ensure no-one is left behind.

“We look forward to working together with the Premier League to create a game where everyone is able to be themselves.”


COMMENT:  Every bloody week sees someone or other trying to crowbar their personal issues into the public domain via football. If it isn’t the parents of some kid on chemotherapy it’s a yet another ‘milestone’ from Hillsborough’s grief machine.

Look at golf, darts, Formula 1 and horse racing… to the best of my knowledge none of these disciplines are routinely used as vehicles for the bleeding hearts and pity me campaigns that infest football.

How has football found itself perpetually hijacked – and hijacked it has well and truly been – then?

The answer is that football is not just the most amoral of the lot, but it has also become the most distanced from where it all began.

All this keeping it real with the fans is 100% phoney. Hoodwinkery at it’s lowest level. Only football feels that it needs to ingratiate itself with it’s customers to such a bizarrely cheap and ultimately intrusive extent.

Let me make where I am on this even clearer for those of you still struggling.

I remember being at The Lane and the two clowns next to me were busily tucking into bagels. Christ on unicycle. Mastication. One of man’s greatest inhumanities unto his fellow man. I’m neurotic about this sort of thing. It’s grotesque. Who enjoys listening to anyone else eating? The smell. Only a deranged person would.

Up until the goal went in, I wanted him dead. Brown bread. As fast as my synapses could manage it I’d already pictured this delicious scene whereby the guy next to me eating the tuna mayo bagel [fatally] choked and as he fell to his asphyxiated death I’d give him the most gentle of nudges (disguised as a compassionate attempt to hold the fellow) out onto the stairs so that the stewards et al could deal with him without further disturbing me.

The goal went in against the Villa and I was not just hugging this oesophageal antichrist; we were both trying to lift each other up like the FA Cup. I could smell his fishy hell as we held each other. I was holding onto him with the sort of passionate clinch one would normally reserve for greeting a long lost relative at an Arrivals gate.

Sins of the fish rescinded.

I wasn’t vaguely thinking of anything deep about the man. Was he pro-life? Was he a pedophile? Football took over.

Who the hell thinks like that as a goal goes in? In the moment of celebration there is no time to carry out personality profiling. If he’s delighted and I’m delighted then so am I. Embrace. Leap. All that. Repeat. Hopefully lots.

The LGBT are a bunch of self obsessives that have no place whatsoever at any football matches.

Are they haunting the darts, the golf or racecourses? No they are not.

Because none of those sports would indulge them. Are they infesting the doorways of department stores? No they are not. Because none of those businesses would indulge them. They would look utterly ridiculous.

So whatever concerns either real and imagined the LGBT lobby have – don’t bother me with them at a football match. Thanks, but no thanks.

Even Stephen Fry isn’t interested

I took a tuna mayo bagel without prejudice. I wouldn’t have casually done so had I known it would result in tuna mayo flags and a tuna mayo lobby within the fan base being recognised by the club and the Premier League.

The sexual preferences of fans/players are none of my business – sex to me is a very private thing – it’s between you and the person you’re doing it to. I don’t want to know. I’d prefer not to know. Where people choose to hide their salami bores me beyond all else. It’s not fascinating, it’s dull dull dull.

So kick everyone out of football that has nothing to do with football, the Nazis, the gluten intolerants, the bicurious pagans…

Take your boring non-football beefs and inflict them on someone else. Let football take over again. It’s been a while…

 
Comments
  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?
  • Spurs est_1882 November 13, 2017 at 10:18 am

    Funny isn’t it – all this “multi gender” or “LGBT+” complain about the pigeon holes people are put in, yet they are not happy until someone jumps in their pigeon hole. Surely isn’t it true enlightenment when we don’t care who people love rather than don’t know? So its almost better to not pressure a player to come out, and rather we ditch the WAGs all together and ignore all players partners. Rather than invent new genders, lets just treat everyone as people who have their own life preferences rather than being a gender thing.

  • Urbane Sturgeon November 12, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    Main post + 1.

  • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    New bloggy blog>>>

  • Superspoz 🏆 November 12, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    Brains are the new tits.

  • Superspoz 🏆 November 12, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    So it’s ok for the gals to twerk their bottoms on the dance floor but as soon as I start doing the helicopter dick I get kicked out. Bollocks.

    • Frontwheel2 November 12, 2017 at 3:43 pm

      Heheh

  • 61SpursNut🌰 November 12, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    My name is 61SpursNut and I’m a Trekkie.

    • Frontwheel2 November 12, 2017 at 3:45 pm

      I collect fakin stamps

      • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 4:12 pm

        Fake stamps? Can’t be much value in that..

    • 89Spurs👁 November 12, 2017 at 3:56 pm

      I thought that you were a quitler?

      • 89Spurs👁 November 12, 2017 at 3:57 pm

        Quilter ronglish

    • Superspoz 🏆 November 12, 2017 at 3:59 pm

      My name is not Superspoz and I chat a lot of shit. I have to, I’d be locked up otherwise.

  • OrganicPaper November 12, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    Quite of the day

    “Don’t talk nonsense, let’s not confuse Nutella with shit.”

    Gennaro Gattuso

    • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 3:24 pm

      That is quite a quite!

      • OrganicPaper November 12, 2017 at 3:45 pm

        Quite!

  • Frontwheel2 November 12, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    Well that went in a few different directions.Fakinel.i’m a feminist at ❤️,fair play to ya Sid

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 3:31 pm

      Good for you – there is an initiation ceremony into feminism though that involves you dangling your chopper over Spurtsy head while he’s sleeping

  • Willie! November 12, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    I was nodding along until you too that gratuitous swipe at the bi-curious pagans. That’s just a bridge too far sir, a bridge too far I say!

  • Superspoz 🏆 November 12, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    If the world was a hundred days old, this situation only occurred 4 seconds ago but the lgbtq mobile is already in 6th gear and the finger is on the nitrous button. Most people just pretend to accept it otherwise there’d be consequences. I’m saying it as I see it.

  • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    melcyid
    Im going to the Watford game,I am expecting some Naan and vindalo wraps to be available

    Cant possibly be better than the sepia wrapped soggy fucking cheese sandwiches we used to get at Spurs?

    One bloke was in the East stand and asked for a cup of tea.He said he wanted it so weak as if the tea itself never touched the water. The bloke behind the counter said ‘sorry we dont sell tea like that’ the bloke said ‘For the last 23 games you have!’

  • Still Nil Nil November 12, 2017 at 12:44 pm

    🌈💄👠👙✊
    I’m a lesbian

    🎤I’m coming out🎼
    🎹I want the world to know🎧
    🥁gotta let it show🎺
    🎤I’m comiiiing🎼
    🎹I’m coming out🎺

    Etc

    • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 12:47 pm

      • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 12:48 pm

        dangle is a good name

        • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 12:49 pm

          where have you been surfing Ron

      • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm

        Nilly you look different today

        • Caspurs♿️ November 12, 2017 at 1:00 pm

          Is it because he’s wearing clothes?

      • Sexy Beast November 12, 2017 at 1:00 pm

        Hahahahaha!
        Looking good The Nilster!

        • Still Nil Nil November 12, 2017 at 1:02 pm

          I brushed my hair differently

          • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 2:34 pm

            Which hair?

  • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 12:42 pm

    Hope you can still get gluten loaded processed hot dogs and onions at the grounds still,yum yum

    • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 12:44 pm

      Mel the game ended 10 days ago

      • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 12:47 pm

        Im going to the Watford game,I am expecting some Naan and vindalo wraps to be available

        • Still Nil Nil November 12, 2017 at 12:57 pm

          Don’t sit next to Harry eatingbthat, unless spurs score, then you’re alright

          • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 1:33 pm

            Mother Earth is pregnant for the third time
            For y’all have knocked her up
            I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe
            I was not offended
            For I knew I had to rise above it all
            Or drown in my own shit

            [Eddie Hazel’s guitar solo]

            [George Clinton during the solo]
            looking forward to the embrace leap repeat and all that

  • Still Nil Nil November 12, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    Horse racing, darts and golf aren’t sports that’s why they haven’t been infiltrated.

    Standby for outrage…!

    • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 12:37 pm

      Snooker?

      • Still Nil Nil November 12, 2017 at 12:39 pm

        Now you’re complicating things

      • Willie! November 12, 2017 at 2:19 pm

        Snook her? I barely know her.

    • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 12:40 pm

      Dont be ridiculous Still. Bent darts dont work

      • Still Nil Nil November 12, 2017 at 12:45 pm

        Sorry

        • Caspurs♿️ November 12, 2017 at 12:46 pm

          What if the darts have LGBT coloured flights?

  • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    There are fanatics on every side of the situation. 5-10% of the world are fucking crazy.
    Religion,Footie,or any other group harbour crazy fucks that are over the top. Sometimes they go to the terraces and sometimes the fuckers get elected. They are in every field. Can you not take supplements without signing on for Greenpeace,Can you be right wing without being a fascist? or left wing without being a communist?
    Have a point of view that is based on issues and not blocks?
    I like Independents but I hate the fucking Independents that sit on the fence!

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 12:17 pm

      That’s fencist

      • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 12:42 pm

        Sid Im with the Israeli De Fence Forces

        • Caspurs♿️ November 12, 2017 at 12:47 pm

          Are they a splinter group?

          • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 1:00 pm

            Been infiltrated by Poles

          • Still Nil Nil November 12, 2017 at 1:33 pm

            A sphincter Group

  • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 11:51 am

    gloster1861
    Who says that 1 in 3 are gay? What a simplistic statement. As with all aspects of Human personality, there are spectrums, not just binary ‘them and us’ situation.

    Them,Them,Them,Spam,Spam,Spam,Them,Them,ThemSpam and Them and you Glos

  • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 11:48 am

    I want to say categorically if you want to be gay thats ok,if you want to change your sex thats ok and if you dont thats ok.
    I dont like fucking people from fucking Scunthorpe thats all

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:50 am

      Crap. Coffee just snorted from my nose all over the laptop

  • Sexy Beast November 12, 2017 at 11:42 am

    In other non Lesbian/Gay news here is the latest vidoe from Chris Cowlin on the stadium build.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtWHb1ig6So

    • Sexy Beast November 12, 2017 at 11:56 am

      Not a rainbow flag in sight!

  • David Dillenberg November 12, 2017 at 11:40 am

    On a lighter note.
    Brilliant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5-bnHjX50A

  • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 11:37 am

    I look up at him because he is in the Old West Stand and smokes a pipe,but I look down at him because I am in the East Stand and he is standing on the shelf.

    Its true that footie should stick to footie,bu.t it really doesnt does it. Sometimes there are a group of buses that park themselves politically in front of a goal,looking for equal rights. They dont play footie. They use them for barriers against footie. They feel that they dont get a fair shake withing the football community and like to even things up.

    I believe more in the centre.Thats why I like Harry Kane and I used to sit in the East stand with all the other cab drivers of which I wasnt. Right wingers really dont like left wingers but it is the centrist East Standers that want to keep the peace and why the left and the right are arguing Harry Kane nips in and scores.

    I cant understand Oxymoron Chelsea its full of all of the above…. nazis,pensioners,gay activists and communists. This is not the worst though.In America going the other way is a sport..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWrUiRvvBmw

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:49 am

      Wonderful!

  • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 11:20 am

    Caspurs♿️
    Sarf staahnd looking good…
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    Harry Krane

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:21 am

      Christian Erection

      • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 11:40 am

        Erect Dier

        • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 1:02 pm

          If only we still had Siggy Girderjonsen

          • ronwol196061 November 12, 2017 at 1:44 pm

            Good one Sid.Not easy!

            • AntSpurs November 12, 2017 at 4:10 pm

              Danny Rose

              • AntSpurs November 12, 2017 at 4:11 pm

                Jan Vertigonhen

                • AntSpurs November 12, 2017 at 4:12 pm

                  Hugo Lowrise

  • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:20 am

    Harold I don’t think you are discriminatory against anything other than flags. Go on admit it. Flags are an unresolved issue for you. Why? Do you want to talk about it. Come over and lie on my couch. (£100 p/h)

    • Sexy Beast November 12, 2017 at 11:25 am

      Does it include a happy ending for £100 an hour? Just asking……

      • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:26 am

        That’s the £200 deluxe therapy session you are referring to you cheapskate. I have an opening on Wednesday

        • Sexy Beast November 12, 2017 at 11:32 am

          Damm, washing my hair Wednesday!

  • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 11:08 am

    Sid Trotter

    And not just binary when it comes to sexuality either – we are complex and diverse beings which feeds the discrimination

    Complex = boring, Sid.

    I’ve zero interest in people with these ‘struggles’, if I did I would seek them out and try to help. They’ve sought me out by waving flags at the football and now I am telling them to piss off and take their flags with them.

    Fingers crossed they piss off sooner rather than later.

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:11 am

      Yes the flags are annoying. That is true. That should be a criminal offence. But then we must not discriminate against flags. Based on either the cloth they are made from, the colours on them, the type of pole that holds them up or the idiot waving it

  • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 10:43 am

    Don’t forget two minutes silence @ 11 gents.

    • gloster1861 November 12, 2017 at 10:54 am

      Yes. And observed it yesterday.

    • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 11:09 am

      Careful, you might upset a gender fluid pacifist…

      • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:13 am

        Yeah, let’s kick the shit out of the non-cis him/her individual rights holder

        • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:13 am

          you mean me? Gadzooks

  • gloster1861 November 12, 2017 at 10:38 am

    Who says that 1 in 3 are gay? What a simplistic statement. As with all aspects of Human personality, there are spectrums, not just binary ‘them and us’ situation.

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 10:43 am

      And not just binary when it comes to sexuality either – we are complex and diverse beings which feeds the discrimination

  • Rich G💣 November 12, 2017 at 10:15 am

    Mentally ill people trying to convince morons that being a freak is ok and that everyone should embrace it,gets a big FUCK OFF from me

    • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 10:18 am

      Nice

    • Sexy Beast November 12, 2017 at 10:43 am

      That is one way of looking at it!

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 10:43 am

      Says the man in the dress

  • Caspurs♿️ November 12, 2017 at 10:10 am

    Sarf staahnd looking good…

    • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 10:12 am

      Haha, did you do that?

      • Caspurs♿️ November 12, 2017 at 10:13 am

        Sadly not, but it did make me smile tho.

    • 61SpursNut🌰 November 12, 2017 at 10:53 am

      I’ll get it. It’s an anagram … hold on … My Dairy!

  • OrganicPaper November 12, 2017 at 10:08 am

    The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋
    When I was at school (mid to late 80s) ‘they’ said 1 in 4 were gay. I was horrified. Was it me? Which one of my mates was it? It wasn’t me, or any of my mates either. In fact no-one I knew at school was gay (maybe one girl was).
    Who were ‘they’ telling us 1 in 4 was gay? The same people telling you 1 in 3 are gay now. It’s lies. Perpetuated by thise with a vested interest.

    Gentlemen. Your debate above was an interesting read and i think completely representative of the devision of opinion on so called liberal issues in society.

    I agree with the sentiment of the blog but not necessarily the views if the blogger. I feel football and indeed sport is not the correct forum to address or align big socal/political/ideological view points. It should be allowed to be played and enjoyed unfetted by these things.

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 10:11 am

      So keep everything in boxes because no social issues intersect with football?

      • OrganicPaper November 12, 2017 at 10:26 am

        Of course social issues intersect with football. Every person attending or playing is part of a society. Within those societies there are huge challenges and issues that pervade every aspect of life and none of these issues has ever been solved at a football match. Your views are your own and you hold them passionately, I might agree with many but the man, woman or child next to me may very well not. What’s to say mine, yours or their particular view point is right or wrong?

        I feel that once you walk through the turnstiles, the only focus should be the sport.

        It’s not hiding from ugly issues or denying anything, it is for me about the right forum to openly educate and debate about such things and IMO that forum is not a football match.

        • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 10:40 am

          but it is hiding if there is no acknowledgement of the fact that racism, sexism, etc is perpetuated in such venues

          • OrganicPaper November 12, 2017 at 11:01 am

            Why should choosing to enjoy entertainment constitute ignoring social issues?
            We should be allowed a sanctuary away from socio-policitacl tub thumping. Gawd knows there id enough of it already in our daily lives and it is rather decisive!

            • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:06 am

              For exactly that reason. And yes we all want to watch the match and enjoy the game without crap going on. But why should people who play or watch a sport in such a venue be subject to discrimination – on any grounds. If it didn’t happen, it wouldn’t be an issue – but it does and it is.

              • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 11:14 am

                Sid Trotter

                So why does it happen in football? Are football fans less educated than Rugby ones – I don’t think so. So maybe football terraces are the right venue to work on these issues

                NO – and football doesn’t have terraces.

                You’re trying to pass off football in the 21st century as the last vestiges of some cultural melting pot.

                This sort of thing needs to be done in the home, which one achieves by tackling it in the schoolroom.

                There’s far too much half wired virtue signalling going on here to appease a whiny, boring, minority.

                I’d suggest that homelessness trumps someone being offended because the bloke 3 rows down from them screamed ‘get up you poof!’ at a footballer.

                I don’t want Shelter flags in the stands either.

                • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:19 am

                  Indeed, the school room is where this needs to be addressed. I couldn’t agree more. But not just there. THat will come to fruition a generation from now. It needs to be tackled now

                  • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 11:33 am

                    NO.

                    That ship has sailed. The tobacco industry didn’t collapse because society targeted 60 year olds on 40 a day, it collapsed because it educated kids.

                    There are people in hospital beds who have been eating out of deep fat fryers for the last 40 years. If they went vegan tomorrow they’d still drop dead ahead of schedule.

                    The average age of football fans in 2017 makes it completely nonsensical to target them.

                    I understand you feel passionate about this, but you’re playing to the wrong audience. I can’t be coerced and will not be reasoned with.

                    This is like some fucking nutter with a megaphone shouting about Jesus on the High Street. How many converts does he get? Fuck all because he’s in the wrong place.

                    This isn’t complicated, however you’re seeking to weasel the LGBT ‘debate’ into football stadiums because ‘it’s important’, when the truth is, its because it’s a free crowd to badger.

                    My advice is these people should employ some cognitive reasoning and piss off and hector an audience that actually cares.

                    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 11:48 am

                      Ok look we can do some shorter sessions at £50 an hour

      • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 10:30 am

        So keep everything in boxes because no social issues intersect with football?

        The social issues currently intersecting with football never used to.

        Does a black armband made of black packing tape really aid society’s ills?

        What does a minute’s silence do to aid a kid with cancer?

        • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 10:38 am

          The social issues currently intersecting with football never used to.

          They didn’t used to intersect so obviously but discrimination was always there. A black armband is an aide memoire that’s all, as is a minute’s silence. I have no problem with that. And we all remember how black players, used to and still are racially abused. Discrimination happens at football – how we as Spurs supporters often hear the hissing of gas pipes, how black players have bananas thrown on to the pitch. These things are there. And they shouldn’t be.

          • David Dillenberg November 12, 2017 at 10:42 am

            You don’t get that in Rugby Union which attracting less tribal warfare achieves a greater bon homie amongst rival supporters.

            • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 10:45 am

              So why does it happen in football? Are football fans less educated than Rugby ones – I don’t think so. So maybe football terraces are the right venue to work on these issues

  • gloster1861 November 12, 2017 at 10:00 am

    melcyid
    almost 100% of women on discovering that they are pregnant would announce that they are having a baby.I have been around quite a long time,64 years + the 9 months I was alive in my mothers womb,I have never heard 1 woman say I am with foetus.They think and say I am carrying a child.

    And if they tragically miscarry, they grieve for their lost child. Not lost foetus.

    • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 10:11 am

      What a load of shit.

      • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 10:12 am

        Yup, that really is a crap article

      • Sexy Beast November 12, 2017 at 10:13 am

        Indeed, but it will only intensify if Jose moves on in the summer (which woudn’t surprise me)…..

  • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 9:37 am

    Harry Hotspur
    There surely cannot be anything more sanctimonious than deciding for someone else if they must go full term and give birth to a baby they don’t want.

    I couldn’t agree more – that’s not something I’ve said in a while

    • Rich G💣 November 12, 2017 at 10:17 am

      +200,make sure me wild with anger,utter cunts

  • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 9:25 am

    The only point I wish to make on this matter, other than being gluten intolerant, is that I believe there are some instances where it can’t be avoided.

    I don’t like to see players or fans abused for their preferences and so I’d ideally like to see an environment where players or fans can be comfortable in their skin no matter who they are or what their choices are. Sadly we live in a world where if Ben Davies was a homosexual and came out, he would be ridiculed and discriminated against, most likely at West Ham and Chelsea games.

    Personally I don’t care what their choices are, it doesn’t affect me, but I don’t like to see someone bullied or discriminated against.

  • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 9:16 am

    I’m gluten intolerant.

    • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 9:22 am

      I’m super glue ten intolerant, doc suggests I stick with blu tack.

      • gloster1861 November 12, 2017 at 9:24 am

        Try Gorilla glue.

        • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 9:33 am

          I did, intolerant the that too, doc went ape when I told him.

          • gloster1861 November 12, 2017 at 9:55 am

            Back to PVA then!

            • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 10:04 am

              I suggested that to me doc, Northern twat told me to buy gum.

    • gloster1861 November 12, 2017 at 9:23 am

      All these alternative products are so expensive. £1.80 for four gluten free crumpets in Tesco.

      Profiteering at its worst.

      • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 9:25 am

        And it tastes like shit.

        • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 9:34 am

          There are other flavours out there..

          • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 9:35 am

            Sadly not when it comes to gluten free food.

            • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 9:47 am

              Yep, been told it’s expensive shit!

  • Superspoz 🏆 November 12, 2017 at 9:07 am

    What is going on around here?

    • SpurAndy November 12, 2017 at 9:10 am

      Just keep yer nut down and look busy. 😉

    • David Dillenberg November 12, 2017 at 9:11 am

      Not sure but it’s Remembrance Day shortly on BBC 1 @ 10.20 am which puts life into perspective.

  • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 8:28 am

    I have to say I find this article extremely offensive to totally demeaning. You have no right H, no right whatsoever. Please, never never never do that to Harry Kane again.

    • Spiderneil November 12, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      Fixed

  • Lord Croker November 12, 2017 at 6:35 am

    ‘it’s dull dull dull.’ Yes it’s dull alright. Privately I get very offended when defenders kick the ball back to the keeper. It is an attack on my freedom of forward play. Roll on Saturday.

  • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 4:35 am

    on a lighter note,be careful what you eat and beware where it comes from
    http://tapnewswire.com/2017/11/sex-change-chemical-being-sprayed-on-crops/

  • Gus November 12, 2017 at 4:20 am

    Frontwheel2
    Ha Ha,you two still at it,I had a feeling the one with many names/faces was up for a row.night night all.

    My thoughts exactly. What about the football? The joys of the interlull eh…..

  • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 3:03 am

    there can only be a level playing field when all identity groups are of equal %.ie 2 groups are 50% represented or 3 groups 33 and a third %recurring .If one group was the larger % and gave over its larger % to accomodate the minority to bring it to parity it would only be a level playing field by a contrived % result .In reality the greater percentage group that gave the minority its new equal percentage would not be on a level playing field because they had to give up their majority rights and that is not an equal or level playing field as the minority had to give up nothing. pfft.

  • East Stand November 12, 2017 at 1:14 am

    It seems to have more to do with football being such a massive global entity than anything else. It IS more popular as spectator and participation sport than ever before precisely because of the global market so it has people who would have never been interested in it now interested in it.

    The media run stories about the player’s wags and their private lives, they also want human interest stories etc, the whole thing has little to do with what happens on the pitch but its the bigger circus that goes with it.

    No other sport is now as far reaching or involves so many of the world’s population. When something becomes so huge and all encompassing then other things start to encompass football, including wider social and cultural stuff.

    To pay players 250k a week you need more customers so many in fact that those customers now include sections of society that were previously simply not engaged in football to any real extent. Along with the LBGT fraternity come their supporters and those fully behind them being utterly included in all areas of society.

    In other words being politically correct and ‘inclusive’ is as much a marketing ploy for the brand with which to gain more customers rather than anything else. The liberal minded masses will also be impressed by the perceived ‘progressive’ stance taken by the game’s governing bodies.

    It’s all about protecting the brand and ultimately money, whatever our views might be…

  • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 12:58 am

    “Why should she be used as a vehicle for an unborn child’s rights.”

    Because a woman is a person. Duh! Would you want your body used?

    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 1:03 am

      IF as a woman or a man I’d contributed to the forming of a life I would take responsibilty for my actions. No question. In a beartbeat. I would not terminate a life because it was an inconvenience or a mistake.

      I don’t know anyone who would.

      As to the man and contraception… of course men should be more responsible, and forced to be if necessary. A long time before we start killing life.

      • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 1:07 am

        So you want to force men to be ‘responsible’ – well that has really worked hasn’t it. But why should a woman carry to term a foetus if she doesn’t want it? And what if her partner doesn’t want it either. Are you going to force them to have an unwanted pregnancy? Do they not have a say? Or do you choose

        • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 1:18 am

          because the foetus in fact is a word that people hide behind when convenient to ignore the fact that it is a living unborn baby.It is a word used to salve a conscience so that the human murderer can kill the defenceless child that has no rights of its own.But is conveniently denied the right to live and have a future to accommodate either 1 or 2 self absorbed grown up foetuses

          • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 1:36 am

            almost 100% of women on discovering that they are pregnant would announce that they are having a baby.I have been around quite a long time,64 years + the 9 months I was alive in my mothers womb,I have never heard 1 woman say I am with foetus.They think and say I am carrying a child.

            • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 8:51 am

              So I take it, you do not believe in the right of a woman to have an abortion on any grounds?

              • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 12:35 pm

                which grounds,heamorhoids,the fridge or primark stadium,be a bit like the roman colliseum

        • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 1:20 am

          When your wife was pregnant with your children did she believe they weren’t children until they were born? When they wriggled inside her tummy? When they kicked? When she spoke to them and sang to them? Did you?

          You say the child rightly has no legal rights. Once upon a time LGBTQ+ had no legal rights.

          Why weren’t you content with the law as it stood for the LGBTQ+ but you’re happy for unborn children to be not have the protection of legal rights?

          Don’t worry, I know why. Rights for unborn children doesn’t fit into the ideaology.

          • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 8:35 am

            A foetus has no rights for obvious reasons. LGBTI persons do have rights because they are not foetuses, but human beings. It really is not rocket science

      • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 1:18 am

        We can continue your basic education tomorrow. I’m going to sleep, but I promise to try and get you up to basic GCSE humanity level tomorrow. Yes, its a long shot but I will try

        • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 1:24 am

          Haha. Nice try. I simply wanted to reveal the person behind the Shiraz and Sausage Roll persona.

          What I will give you credit for is your ability to ‘back up’ your arguments with sniedy name calling. It’s a liberal thang, and you’re good at it.

          See you next time.

  • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 12:46 am

    “Why should she be used as a vehicle for an unborn child’s rights.”

    Sid Trotter
    and perhaps men should have more of a role in using contraception – why should it be the woman that has to be in control of that, usually always. A foetus, an ectoplasm, a grouping of cells should not have more rights than the women who has to carry the foetus to term. Why should she be used as a vehicle for an unborn child’s rights. Do we really devalue women so much? I don’t, seems like you do.

    So it is a child? And the child has rights? But those rights are secondary to woman’s rights?

    Why do we champion promiscuity and irresponsiblity and devalue life so much? I don’t.

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 12:55 am

      No it is not a child if it isnt born. Before that it is a foetus. Read some basic biology – GCSE would do. So no, an unborn foetus has no legal rights, and rightly so. A woman has rights. And so she should. Basic law. Who is championing promiscuity, you not me. Do only promiscuous women have kids? I think not

      • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 12:59 am

        I’m quoting you. Those were your words.

        That’s the problem isn’t it. You quite naturally described an unborn child with rights as an unborn child with rights until you realised that description doesn’t fit your militant aganda.

        • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 1:04 am

          it is not a chld until it is born, when it is born it has rights, when it is not it doesn’t

          • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 1:07 am

            Yes. That better suits the agenda. It’s semantics designed to salve a seared conscience. Ne’ver mind eh?

            • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 1:08 am

              Drivel. Come up with a sensible argument

              • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 1:27 am

                I just did. You don’t like it. A thing doesn’t ecome something else because you change its name. A bit like calling whoring, sexwork.

                • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 1:28 am

                  It’s still whoring. Some of your friends on Twitter agree.

                  • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 9:00 am

                    A name is just a name Carl

                • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 8:59 am

                  I am still waiting for your sensible argument. I’m saying that a woman should have the choice over what happens to her body – in all cases – you are saying if she gets pregnant she has to carry it to term regardless.

                  We are not going to agree. You are against choice.

                  But clearly if you do not trust a woman to make the choices she deems are necessary for herself and her family, whether that’s having an abortion or not, then why should she trust you, even to use contraception?

  • Frontwheel2 November 12, 2017 at 12:43 am

    Ha Ha,you two still at it,I had a feeling the one with many names/faces was up for a row.night night all.

  • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 12:22 am

    The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 0 – 84 Sid Trotter

    • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 12:56 am

      Sleep well, I will keep the misogynists at bay, fear not

    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 12:57 am

      My aim tonight was to draw you out and encourage you to reveal what really makes you tick.

      I invited you to declare your somewhat specialist interest in the debate The Boy had provoked in the spirit of openness and fairness. An invitation that you resisted until 11.50.

      I will admit that you nearly had me convinced by that post. It all seemed so noble. Perhaps I was wrong about you.

      Then you start talking about abortion and rights and unborn children and the picture starts to clear again.

      Then I recheck your Twitter feed again. If you’re not pursuing an aggressive feminist agenda which has sexual promiscuity at it’s heart I don’t who is.

      • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 1:01 am

        Oh sigh. It has nothing to do with promiscuity, it’s about every single person’s rights to value themselves and have those values upheld. Why should some people be exploited at the expense of others, why should some people be abused. We all bleed red, male, female, trans whatever. We all should have the same rights. What is wrong with that?

        • East Stand November 12, 2017 at 1:34 am

          This is a very emotive subject and both sides of the argument have their compelling aspects and I respect both sides view.

          One thing that I don’t understand Spurts (with respect) is where feminism and sexual promiscuity are inextricably linked. Feminism is more about equal pay for doing the same job as a bloke, having an equal stake in society etc and everyday stuff.

          The ‘sexual’ thing was a period in history when feminists centred on the rights for women to use the pill if they wanted and have sex before marriage if they wanted. At that time they didn’t have that choice much when men could choose to use their own contraception and do pretty much what they wanted.

          To dismiss it as merely promiscuity is getting dangerously close to the kind of views we see in places like Saudi Arabia. Feminism is about having equality with the opposite sex and nothing else, however people use the word out of context all the time. Both supporters and critics of it…

          • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 1:48 am

            With respect Easty, you’re coming to the discussion very late and at its end so it will.be easy for you to misconstrue the points raised.

            To be fair we did stray some distance from The Boys original post, and as usual these discussions aren’t particularly fruitful in themselves, I simply wanted Sid Trotter to reveal more about the extreme liberal passions that drive him.

            It was hard work, but in the end some of it began to shine through.

            Don’t be so late to the party next time.

            • East Stand November 12, 2017 at 1:57 am

              I’m rather glad I stayed out of it to be honest!

            • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 9:42 am

              So what does promiscuity have to do with it. You are side stepping that argument.

  • David Dillenberg November 12, 2017 at 12:07 am

    Digressing coming late to later to the party those who missed Alexaner Burke’s first Argentine Tango on Strictly Come Dancing are in for some scintillating chemisty.
    Bravo.
    http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/11/alexandra-burke-nailed-strictlys-first-argentine-tango-of-the-series-but-missed-out-on-a-40-7072355/

    • David Dillenberg November 12, 2017 at 12:12 am

      *Alaxandra

    • Joe Lewis November 12, 2017 at 5:26 am

      Kick “Strictly Come Dancing” out of Spurs blogs.

      • David Dillenberg November 12, 2017 at 8:45 am

        -1

      • Rich G💣 November 12, 2017 at 10:21 am

        Agree ,celebrity cunts dancing in sequins,utter cuntishness

        • David Dillenberg November 12, 2017 at 10:31 am

          Utter rubbish.

  • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:26 pm

    The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋
    When I was at school (mid to late 80s) ‘they’ said 1 in 4 were gay. I was horrified. Was it me? Which one of my mates was it? It wasn’t me, or any of my mates either. In fact no-one I knew at school was gay (maybe one girl was).
    Who were ‘they’ telling us 1 in 4 was gay? The same people telling you 1 in 3 are gay now. It’s lies. Perpetuated by thise with a vested interest.

    Whatever the number, it’s not the actual figures that matter. But do you really support or oppose someone because of their sexual preferences? It could be 1 in 1, or 1 in a 1000, it does not matter

    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 11:44 pm

      No. I don’t. That’s the whole point isn’t it? I don’t hate homosexuals. I don’t want nasty things to be done to homosexuals. No-one I knows does.

      I profoundly object to being forced to submit to a sinister and aggressive, ideological, extreme liberal agenda and being attacked if and when I resist (not by you).

      • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:53 pm

        But this toxic masculinity exists – no-one wants harm to be done to others unless they are deranged. Yes violence and discrimination against anyone because of their sexuality, because of their income, because of their social class, because of their race, and so on and so on, needs to be addressed. Putting our heads in the sand cannot last

      • Aussie in Switzerland November 12, 2017 at 2:25 am

        I just want the freedom of speech to call gay people “poo punchers”, without being arrested under bullshit changes to vilification laws

        • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 3:39 am

          fred flintsone sung about having a gay old time ,wonder what he really meant.Or was it penned by a pre LGTB in hollyweird

        • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 3:55 am

          This is just unpleasant- kindly stop it.

          • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 4:19 am

            life nowadays is unpleasant,everything is in your face,but out of respect of your request I have now stopped commenting on it.

            • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 8:46 am

              That wasn’t aimed at you!

              • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 12:37 pm

                phew,I wasnt offended though

  • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:22 pm

    ‘ve given up knowing what your suggestion was. I do not have an extreme feminist agenda, just a common sense one. Equality means equality – is that so hard to grasp? And no, it is not based on sexual promiscuity but based on informed consensual relations. If that is extreme, then you really have no idea what you are talking about. How many women have you attacked if you don’t believe in consensual relations?

    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 11:36 pm

      My suggestion was two posts above this one that you replied to.

      Ooh. How many women have I attacked? Becuase I don’t believe in consenual relations? I suppose that must be your conclusion.

      More obsfuscation. You’re being dishonest. You keep talking about ‘equality’ in the most general of terms but actually you are pursuing an aggressively feminist agenda which focuses on sexual license and promiscuity.

      If I’m wrong about your particular agenda, what other issues of ‘inequality’ are you working to rectify?

      • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:50 pm

        I’m not being dishonest – equality is equality – you are now running from your ‘facts’ that don’t stand up, hence the change in tone. I don’t focus on promiscuity, the opposite, about values and gender norms and for people to be aware of what sex and sexuality means – to them. Its not about a feminist agenda (though nothing is wrong with that) but when you see the issues I deal with you would be supportive. And for the record, I deal on issues of child, early and forced marriage (or do you support 50 years olds marrying 11 year old girls?), preventable maternal mortality and morbidity (yes 350,000 women die every year as a result, even if it is preventable), conscientious objection (yes 1,000s of doctors use the law to prevent women who have been raped from having legal abortions), death penalty (only women are sentenced to death for adultery), gender based violence (yes 1 in 3 women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime) and much more. Or is this wrong? Or maybe you support the way things are and can’t drag your head out of the sand to look around and see that this and many other things are an actual problem.

        • Aussie in Switzerland November 12, 2017 at 2:28 am

          Talking to a woman is not sexual assault. There is no wage gap, white men are the only oppressed group of people in the West, and white women in the West are the most privileged group of people in the history of our species

          • Rich G💣 November 12, 2017 at 10:22 am

            Yup

  • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:15 pm

    The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋
    Terrible story. This poor woman lost a child she probably wanted and would have loved. Yes, reprehensible.
    In the west she could have killed her unborn child (if she’d wanted to) as easy as by your leave and no questions asked.
    Strange world we live in.

    Killed her unborn child! feck, why should a woman not be allowed to have an abortion? That is safe and legal?

    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 11:22 pm

      Ha! Thought you might like that.

      Whay should a man and a woman be released from the consequences of their inconvenient mistake at the cost of an innocent life?

      • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:28 pm

        Because it is the woman who goes through it, not the man. So for example, if your sister was raped and found out she was pregnant, you’d want her to have it?

        • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 11:52 pm

          I love it. This is the level we have to argue on.

          IT? Is that the way you descibe your children? ITs? Are your children ITs? When did they cease to be ITs? Do they know you once thought of them as ITs? Will you tell them that they were once ITs that could easily and safely have been killed in the womb? Shame.

          And why take the most extreme case of unwanted pregnancy as your example. How many of the abortions performed each year are required as a result of rape? And what alternatives are offered to a woman who finds herself in this awful position? What emphasis is put on abortion.

          As to the men not having to suffer the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy, perhaps they should be made to. Perhaps they should be made to before any talk of exterminating innocent life is begun.

          • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:58 pm

            and perhaps men should have more of a role in using contraception – why should it be the woman that has to be in control of that, usually always. A foetus, an ectoplasm, a grouping of cells should not have more rights than the women who has to carry the foetus to term. Why should she be used as a vehicle for an unborn child’s rights. Do we really devalue women so much? I don’t, seems like you do.

          • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:59 pm

            and they are not a child if they are not born, and a woman has rights, not a foetus

            • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 12:41 am

              What utter garbage. It’s quite disgusting. And you claim not to pursue an aggresive feminist agaenda.

              Now you are beginning to show some of your rabid liberal extremism.

              Of course an unborn life can be dismissed as nothing more than a collection of cells or a foetus (a foetus?!) when your goal is to perpetuate a sexual promiscuous ideology.

              A child isn’t a child until it’s born? What dispicable rot.

              • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 1:03 am

                Then quite frankly, I really pity the person, male or female, you are with. Because clearly you respect yourself more than your partner

                • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 12, 2017 at 1:36 am

                  There’s no need for pity. My wife would no more snuff out a life she’d had a hand in creating than I would. I don’t know anyone who would, including my sisters who both had babies as unmarried teenagers with their whole lives ahead of them. They are both fantastic mothers and their boys are both outstanding.

                  I pity anyone who falls prey to someone driven by an ideology, and is convinced to kill their inconvenient unborn child. In the name of choice, by the way.

                  • Sid Trotter November 12, 2017 at 8:42 am

                    And good for your sisters, but I bet at the time they’d wish they used contraception. Making decisions about someone else’s body is just wrong. Surely the individual should be able to decide for themself

                    • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 8:48 am

                      There surely cannot be anything more sanctimonious than deciding for someone else if they must go full term and give birth to a baby they don’t want.

  • 61SpursNut🌰 November 11, 2017 at 10:38 pm

    Anyone goin’ aht for a fag?

    • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 10:39 pm

      That’s a very disrespectful way to describe a member of the LGBT community.

      • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:44 pm

        Thank you Gloster – we need to stand up for the LGBTI community. Well said.

  • Hotspur17 November 11, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    I honestly don’t know why your picking on the lgbt trying to get homophobic abuse out of football, really is it not akin to a black player facing rascist abuse? So would you say anti rascism be barred from football? Funny how u pick on the lgbt piggybacking on football but not the armed forces propaganda filled with nationalism that surrounds almost every match these days
    Last thing… Football and sport in general should NOT back away from taking a stand against certain forces, that’s the way it always was until everyone in public view had to become politically neutral.

    • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 2:16 am

      I wasn’t picking on anyone. I was responding to the latest nonsense from Scudanore. Try reading the blog before passing comment…

    • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 3:06 am

      when are pedos going to get recognition for their rights or dog fiddlers. A bit further down the road I suppose.Is it all right for necromancers to fornicate with dead people,after all they are dead and have no rights as they are not alive.

      • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 3:33 am

        Cold Ethyl!

        • melcyid November 12, 2017 at 3:41 am

          Blimey its an all nighter tonight.

  • Covspur November 11, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    the Colombians have a few tricks up there sleeves to take care of fatigue if u know what I mean

    • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:59 pm

      We don’t need another Hutton for Pete’s sake!

  • Lahdedah November 11, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    I was admonished by HR for referring to the LBGT group as BLT. I for one am tired of this incessant political correctness. I don’t even care if you f*ck sheep in your private life, just don’t bring it into the workplace and then play the victim when nobody is interested in your sexual choices. Just do your fucking job and stop using your sexual orientation as an excuse for not being able to function. You weren’t passed over for promotion because of your gender, it was because you are not focused and because you are fucking useless at your job. My firm is known for designing Catholic Churches. My partners interviewed a Muslim applicant who clearly knew this fact before he applied for a position. When he was hired he immediately declared that he couldn’t work on the design of a church as it was “Hiram” and it was a sin. He requested that he be granted a religious exemption and provided with alternative work. There was NO ALTERNATIVE work available in a medium sized architectural practice such as ours. Of course the problem was now ours to resolve. This mistake will NEVER happen again. I have been accused of showing anger in the workplace. Am I surprised? Nope. I am not intolerant or racist. I am simply so, so, tired of special interest groups taking advantage of of everyone’s goodwill and playing the victim to support their own agenda. Keeping sexual orientation out of football? Absolutely. Keeping it out of the workplace? An even better idea. But there again, I am what the reverse racists (in Canada) call an “old white guy”, but I’m not supposed to be offended by that label. As you can see, my anger management sessions to date can’t be described as necessarily successful.

    • Melcyid November 11, 2017 at 10:01 pm

      This is another very quare blog.I dontthin.I uderstand.

      • Lahdedah November 11, 2017 at 10:05 pm

        Apologies Mel. To use today’s vernacular, I was “triggered”. This probably wasn’t the right place for a rant.

        • Melcyid November 11, 2017 at 11:04 pm

          Wasnt referimgto your post but to the blog.any way was the devoutly religous genteleman aware that he is a follower of demonic doctrines. I see he is against hiram holliday as well.

    • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 10:03 pm

      Yes, there are many who exploit these avenues and actually make things worse for those who suffer where there is genuine discrimination. The boy who cried ‘wolf’.

      • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 10:07 pm

        This would be like someone with a nut allergy taking a job at the Nutella factory. And then complaining.

        • Lahdedah November 11, 2017 at 10:15 pm

          You are right Glos. And do you think we will ever entertain a repetition of this circumstance? No we will not. Once bitten.

          We did let this particular individual go after three months because the only other project that we had for him was a Catholic Mausoleum which he again claimed he could not work on for religious reasons. He was happy to sit doing nothing whilst receiving his monthly paycheque. He is now seeking legal compensation for unfair dismissal.

          And people wonder why I’m so angry.

          • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 10:37 pm

            And no doubt he complains bitterly about his ‘unfair’ treatment to any bleeding heart liberal fool enough to listen.

            • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 8:59 am

              Poss the most stupid thing I’ve read in years. You should be suing their arse for anti catholicism!! It begs the question, why on earth did they apply for the position in the first place??!

        • Yiddo November 11, 2017 at 10:19 pm

          One thing these lot don’t have is a nut allergy!!

          • 61SpursNut🌰 November 11, 2017 at 10:20 pm

            That’s a relief!

    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:18 pm

      The devil doesn’t exist but if he did he’d be a straight, white man from a western democrasy. It could be you …

      • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:37 pm

        it’s not me

        • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:49 pm

          Sid, I suspect you are a lesbian, possibly a homosexual man, definitely woman.

          Not that any of that matters in the slightest or is any of my business anyway, so yes, I’d avree: it’s not you.

          • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:50 pm

            Erm, I’m a married man with kids. Does that matter?

            • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:52 pm

              No. I just said it didn’t.

            • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:53 pm

              Are you suggesting homosexual men can’t marry and be parents? Tsk. How discriminatory of you.

              • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:10 pm

                I’m all for it, your comments otherwise would suggest you are not

      • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 10:38 pm

        It’s Macron. I thought I had told you already.

        • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:43 pm

          Macron is a prick (in a non gendered way)

  • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    Thinking of Son and Davinson. They have both played, travelled 1000s of miles in a short time and will be fecked by jet lag for a few days. NLD is a concern

    • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:46 pm

      Son will be on the bench but Davinson has already pushed himself into first team inclusion. Levy should lay on a private jet and a team of masseuses and whale music.

      • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:48 pm

        Only if it is gender neutral whales

        • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:53 pm

          Blue and white whales.

          • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:54 pm

            I agree on that 🙂

    • Matt November 11, 2017 at 9:51 pm

      Kane and our back 5 (Tripps rather than Aurier and currently includes Dier) need to be fit. Anyone else regrettable but replaceable.

  • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    Great result,COYI

    • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:38 pm

      They are open to going out on a score draw on Tuesday though.

      • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 9:40 pm

        I’d say they’d be happy enough with a penalty shoot out.

  • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    Well, the last three minutes has had most goal mouth action. Too little too late.

  • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    Sid Trotter
    Erm Harold, by pro-life I assume you mean anti-choice. Instead of all the LGBTI inclusion – which while important – I’d like, if there had to be something, would be more basic gender equality messaging – as the real problems is while there is political momentum behind the LGBTI lobby, there is little if any anti-domestic or gender based violence awareness raising happening. So much misogyny and patriarchy is on the terraces – and like in all walks of life – is under-messaged and ignored.
    In other news, I have a bottom, two knees and a trachea

    It would be interesting if you were to declare your particular interest in extreme liberal sexual politics. Well, it might be.

    • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:35 pm

      Its not. Trust me. But it is not extreme sexual politics, it’s common sense. I agree the LGBTI lobby has the political momentum behind it and has ‘hijacked’ many venues – but wider and intersectional discrimination is evident in the misogyny which is pervasive. 1 in 3 women are subject to sexual violence in their lifetime. And while the football pitch isn’t the most natural place for it to be seen, it is where large groups of men congregate – hence the need to address it in such a venue.

      • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 9:39 pm

        Better put than I could possibly do,spot on Sid

        • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:43 pm

          Sid has widened this way out from LGBT issues.

          • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 9:45 pm

            Yep. Which is why I suggested he might like to share with the blog what his interest is in. I think Sid is some kind of lobbyist or advocate for extreme liberal sexual issuse at the UN. I might be wrong.

            • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:47 pm

              Ha, indeed I am 🙂

              • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:37 pm

                I only mention it because you appear to have a deep belief and a vested interest in the furtherance of extreme liberal sexual politics.

                Yours isn’t the view of the common person or even the common football fan; you have forged a political career which seems to be focused on extreme feminist issues particularly with reguard to sexuall practices.

                Nothing wrong with any of that, of course, I simply think that to present one’s views on a given subject as a ‘football fan’ is dishonest when one is in fact a fully paid up lobbyist.

                • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:53 pm

                  A fully paid up lobbyist! Ha! if only. I do have a deep belief in equality. Is that a problem? What is actually wrong with equality. Is equality a bad thing?

                  • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:54 pm

                    and yes, I have supported Spurs for nearly fifty years, since I was 6 Or is that a problem too?

                    • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:55 pm

                      And I am certainly not a lobbyist for the LGBTI movement which give me more problems than you know – but equality is equality – it is not extreme. How could it be?

                  • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 11:00 pm

                    Am I wrong to suggest that your passion for equality is centred around feminist issues and sex in particular?

                    • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:06 pm

                      And what is wrong with believing in issues where most of the world’s problems actually have their root causes – is that extreme? It is not to do with sex, its about equality

                    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 11:14 pm

                      I don’t know if you’re telling me my suggestion is wrong. You seem to have skirted my question.

                      I think your passion for equality is largely focused on an extreme feminist perspective with an emphasis on sexual promiscuity.

                      You are deliberately attempting to confuse ‘equality’ with your brand of extreme liberal sexual ideology.

          • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:46 pm

            Because sexuality isn’t just about sex, is about gender relations and patriarchy and how discrimination un folds itself

        • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 9:43 pm

          What part of Sid’s comment particularly resonates with you, Fronty?

          • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 9:52 pm

            I read it and agreed,why do you enquire ?

            • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:15 pm

              You made your appreciation of the comment public. I read your comment and wondered which part of it you particularly agreed with, so I asked.

              It’s really a rather simple process.

      • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:40 pm

        How do you address this issue at a football match though? Do you pay a lot of money to be sermonized?

        • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:45 pm

          I sense a reluctance to be ‘sermonised’. But it shouldn’t just happen at football matches of course, anti- GBV messaging should be even more pervasive than the crime itself. 1 in 3 women and girls. Feck. If you have 2 sisters and a Mum, one of them will have been assaulted. That really isn’t on is it. Question is, what do we do about it?

          • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:50 pm

            This is not something I have any experience of in my family, at all. It is totally alien. It is difficult to relate to. My family contains strong women.

            • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:52 pm

              And that is great. But there are many who do have such an experience. It is not isolated, it is pervasive

              • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:57 pm

                From what I gather,some men struggle to deal with their emotions or the ability to express themselves other than through outbursts which result in violence, regrettably. Especially if they resort to alcohol for a release. Society has let down these men as well. So I could say this is a political issue at root.

                • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:04 pm

                  Indeed it is as political, as it is cultural as it is social as it is economic, but it is clearly not being addressed if it is 1 in 3 women that are the victims of such abuse. If it was 1 in 3 men getting groped or raped there would be a huge outcry. But its not. Men may have a scrap, but it’s always the woman, often behind closed doors, who feels her assault was inflicted because of something she said, did, or cooked wrong, and that she was to blame but who can’t report it because of the repercussions she knows she’ll face. Saying men struggle with their emotions is true, but must it be women that pay the price?

                  • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 10:13 pm

                    I was discussing dealing with causes, rather than pointing out symptoms, which is the violent conduct. Reprehensible, but what is the cause?

                    • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:23 pm

                      Patriarchy, how gender stereotypes persist, discriminatory laws and policies, societal prejudices, the list is long. For example, a woman in El Salvador who has an ectopic pregnancy and loses the child can be arrested for murder and sentenced to 30 years in jail. It is how gendered relations persist

                    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 11:08 pm

                      Terrible story. This poor woman lost a child she probably wanted and would have loved. Yes, reprehensible.

                      In the west she could have killed her unborn child (if she’d wanted to) as easy as by your leave and no questions asked.

                      Strange world we live in.

      • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 9:47 pm

        Of the 1 in 3 women who have experienced sexual violence at the hands of a man how many of the thkse women were assaulted by regular attendees at football matches?

        • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:51 pm

          That is a ridiculous question. But many will have been to a football match for sure. Or maybe it is only rugby or cricket supporters that rape?

          • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:26 pm

            I suspect the VAST majority of football goers have never raped a woman (is it only women that we’re talking about?). And I suspect number who have commited rape would be very similar as an average as Rugby or Cricket. So why the specific hijacking of Football? Do you think that most rapists are football fans?

            • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:34 pm

              I suspect the VAST majority of football goers have never raped a woman (is it only women that we’re talking about?). And I suspect number who have commited rape would be very similar as an average as Rugby or Cricket. So why the specific hijacking of Football? Do you think that most rapists are football fans?

              I’m sure they haven’t – but it happens – and I’m sure some have been to a match – it’d be daft to think otherwise. And no, same sex rape is a problem too even if much less frequent – which means you must be supporting the LGBTI lobby in fighting against sexual violence regardless of the sexuality involved – football has been hijacked because it’s the most popular sport with huge coverage – it’s a strategic decision, one those supporting LGBTI rights have said, well its the biggest thing around let’s get our message across there – and that’s fine. My problem with it is that it foregrounds one aspect of sexuality and backgrounds another, an all more pervasive form of violence. That must be clear no?

              • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:44 pm

                Yes. Exactly as I first speculated. The LGBTQ+ lobby have deliberately and cyncically sunk their class into football, not because the issues they want to raise have any particular significance to football, but simply because football is the biggest and best vehicle available to further the the extreme feminist, LGBTQ+ agenda.

                It’s cynical and dishonest.

                • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:47 pm

                  It’s an obvious strategy no? I mean it makes sense. Which marketing exec wouldn’t do that? And while I hate all the rainbow flag nonsense it is interesting that very few footballers have ‘come out’. And they haven’t because they have felt it’s not a safe environment to do so – so we wonder why isn’t it safe, and it’s because of how gender norms and stereotypes are portrayed at such places (and everywhere) hence the need to make inroads there

                  • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 10:48 pm

                    and its not an extremist feminist agenda. Are you IS or someat?

                    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:51 pm

                      I suppose if I disagree with your kind of liberalism I must be.

                  • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:57 pm

                    How many footballers do you think are LGBTQ+? And how many of that number do you think would quite simply prefer to keep their private lives private, not because they are in fear but because they are privat people without an agenda?

                    I suspect that nomjnal number who would identify as LGBTQ+ are more afraid of being forced to come out by their own community than they are of anything else.

                    • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 11:09 pm

                      They say 1 in 3 men are attracted to their own sex, and 1 in 4 women. And yes, its all about privacy, confidentiality etc, but if the way society works is to discriminate against them based purely on their sexuality then that is wrong, it should be that no-one’s sexuality matter at all – but it does – as you have shown – and its wrong

                    • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 11:20 pm

                      When I was at school (mid to late 80s) ‘they’ said 1 in 4 were gay. I was horrified. Was it me? Which one of my mates was it? It wasn’t me, or any of my mates either. In fact no-one I knew at school was gay (maybe one girl was).

                      Who were ‘they’ telling us 1 in 4 was gay? The same people telling you 1 in 3 are gay now. It’s lies. Perpetuated by thise with a vested interest.

  • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    This is the dullest game ever.

    • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 9:31 pm

      Its what Ireland do,terrible to watch,very hard to beat.

    • Yiddo November 11, 2017 at 9:31 pm

      Tried watching paint dry instead. Far more entertaining

      https://youtu.be/P2XzcF2m8sU

  • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    The extreme liberal lobby have attached themselves to football because football is the world’s biggest game. If they can hijack footbal the world’s their oyster.

    I’d be interested to know what the demand actually is and where it has come from.

    • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:31 pm

      The LGBT seem to be happiest portraying themselves as ‘victims’ of an uncaring patriarchy.

  • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    William Kvist might be worth a look at

    • Melcyid November 11, 2017 at 9:51 pm

      Is he gay, just arksing

      • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 9:55 pm

        Ha!

  • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    Martin O’Neill has spent the entirety of the match pulling his sleeves up. I suggest he gets tops with shorter arms.

  • Nick November 11, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    So no gender neutral toilets at the new stadium then ???

  • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    Meanwhile, Denmark and Ireland continue to demonstrate that neither are good enough to bother anyone at the World Cup. League One quality stuff at best.

    • Matt November 11, 2017 at 9:20 pm

      Has some no hope clogger managed to maim Ericsson yet?

      • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:20 pm

        MacLean hasn’t yet.

        • Matt November 11, 2017 at 9:23 pm

          Plenty of time. I think Christian has a target on his back tonight.

          • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:25 pm

            To be honest, he’s done nothing to attract a tackle tonight.

            • Matt November 11, 2017 at 9:28 pm

              Excellent, lets hope he has one of his quiet ones. If him or Dier pick up an injury before NLD I’m going to be seriously pissed.

  • Matt November 11, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    It’s a disgrace that Phil “‘The Power” Taylor has not felt able to come out as gay. It shames is all.

  • Lord Croker November 11, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    ‘All gay cruises Atlantis’ popping up on the ads here. All new for 2018. It’s in yer face.

  • Superspoz 🏆 November 11, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    Just leave the effing rainbow out of it. That’s all.

  • Lord Croker November 11, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    Does Owen Jones go to Millwall or Le Arse?

    • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:14 pm

      If he goes to football matches at all it will be surely be to demonstrate ‘solidarity with the proletariat.’

  • Bob November 11, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    These groups are all the same. They can smell money.

  • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    I was informed at work by a new colleague that he was gay as if that mattered. I asked him if he expected a round of applause or what?

    Of course I got told I was insensitive to his ‘issues’ by HR. I asked HR if his ‘issues’ were relevant. But anything you say to today’s mind police is held against you.

    • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 8:46 pm

      Your response to him does seem a bit rude imo

      • Yiddo November 11, 2017 at 8:48 pm

        His response is that he never had nor should be expected to have an issue with it. It’s reverse homophobia.

        • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 9:03 pm

          iyo

      • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 8:49 pm

        I’m old school. I don’t go around uniformly informing people of my sexual proclivities. A) its no one else’s business and B) why should I bore other people. I’m sure they don’t want to know.

        • McG⚽⚽ November 12, 2017 at 9:14 am

          That’s quality gloss, might give that one a try myself one day if the circumstance arises!!!

    • Yiddo November 11, 2017 at 8:47 pm

      Nothing puts it more perfectly than this sketch.

      https://youtu.be/e3h6es6zh1c

    • Lord Croker November 11, 2017 at 9:05 pm

      Common Purpose.

  • Yiddo November 11, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    Lgbt seem to have pervaded and infected everything imaginable, it’s insane.

  • Yiddo November 11, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    I can’t wait for a Trevor style bloke to try something. The trap has been set.

  • Sid Trotter November 11, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    Erm Harold, by pro-life I assume you mean anti-choice. Instead of all the LGBTI inclusion – which while important – I’d like, if there had to be something, would be more basic gender equality messaging – as the real problems is while there is political momentum behind the LGBTI lobby, there is little if any anti-domestic or gender based violence awareness raising happening. So much misogyny and patriarchy is on the terraces – and like in all walks of life – is under-messaged and ignored.

    In other news, I have a bottom, two knees and a trachea

    • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 2:21 am

      By pro life I meant pro life – which means anti choice and therefore something else I don’t like.

      As for all the other issues you mention – I don’t want them anywhere near football either.

  • LGBTFootballer November 11, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    I hope you feel better after venting your poisonous spleen. If you had an inkling of emotional intellect you’d have grasped the fact that Football is our national sport, which is why so many worthy and socially aware causes can identify with it. The Professional game is trying hard to be all inclusive. It isn’t about forcing anything upon football, but it is about creating a level playing field and making it and our society in general just a tad more understanding than it currently is. With attitudes like yours if they were allowed to prevail we’d all be back in the 1970’s and all the injustices that came with it along with the yobbos and hooligans on the terraces. Perhaps you should go back in time and live in an era that suits your opinions. As for your comments about ‘some kid on chemo’ that’s about as disgusting and low as you can get, just ask JD, who thankfully didn’t let football turn its back as you now want football to.

    • Harry Hotspur November 12, 2017 at 2:21 am

      Thank you for proving my point.

  • SpurAndy November 11, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    Nice rant H. Agree with the crowbarring of issues. When I snuff it the last thing I’d want is getting the clap at a matxh. The vast wouldn’t have known me so wouldn’t

    • SpurAndy November 11, 2017 at 8:12 pm

      give a toss. Plus I can’t hear it from the grave.

  • Stevo1987 November 11, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    I’m bombarded non by all this LGBT \ diversity stuff at work. WTF!

  • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    All seaters fucked football for me,It done its job though and priced out the average working person.

  • OrganicPaper November 11, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    You neglect to mention the poppy appeal. Does this count as a hijacking?
    It seems to be the only charitable cause that gets prime time football coverage.

    • Harry Hotspur November 11, 2017 at 7:52 pm

      I also neglected to mention one legged dwarves from Dagenham.

      • OrganicPaper November 11, 2017 at 7:53 pm

        I must have missed the minute silence for those folk

        • JackDLad November 11, 2017 at 9:15 pm

          Was only a half minute for them!

          • The Good The Bad and the Spurtsty 💋 November 11, 2017 at 10:45 pm

            Oi! ‘Op it.

  • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 7:44 pm
    • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 7:48 pm

      Denmark v Ireland

      • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 8:38 pm

        So far, total bore. Just waiting for Eriksen to get a bone crunching tackle from these no hopers.

        • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 8:43 pm

          Bad day ?

          • gloster1861 November 11, 2017 at 9:02 pm

            No, good day. Just expecting another injury for Spurs to cope with.

  • Tizzy November 11, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    Amen to that

  • Frontwheel 2 November 11, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    Sex with a bagel

  • KrakowJosh November 11, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    Damn straight, H