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itk: How Levy Scuppered The Transfer

itk: How Levy Scuppered The Transfer

We monitored Siggy seriously not long after he left us.

We first spoke to Swansea City months ago

We agreed detailed personal terms including wages etc with the player.

Then a darkness fell across the land.

Never underestimate the way Daniel Levy’s mind works.

Talking to Gladys about the Gylfi Sigurdsson and we should brace ourselves to watch Siggy sign for Everton.

Where the move fell down was our Sell On clause. What Levy sought to do was to turn this into a discount. I sh*t thee not.

Now I don’t claim to be as proficient in these matters as our beloved chairman, but would that sort of thing not fall within the gift of a Buy Back clause?

When a player you sell to someone else is sold on, the common understanding is that this would be to a third party. Not back to you. No? Yes? Hello?

Well that’s what Levy pulled here and once he’d put a number to it, the final offer for Siggy was £35million.

What I’m struggling with here are two things. One being that we wasted so much time on not signing another player, and two; this is another Poch pick that looks like it won’t happen.

Toffees boss Koeman told the press yesterday: “We are close [on Sigurdsson], we have to wait. But still, the deal is not done.”

You may not have wished to Sign return – that’s not being discussed here.

You may not believe that Siggy is worth anywhere near the amounts being mentioned – since THFC collected £50million for Bonzo – we have parity so money isn’t relevant either.

The point here is that this squad isn’t adequate for next season. That’s what’s being discussed here.

 

 

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  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?

  • Chrisman August 7, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    We don’t need more attacking midfielders. Or central midfielders. We need a CB and an RB.

  • JuandeInternational August 7, 2017 at 5:56 pm

    So let me see if I understand this. We had a sell on clause which baldy tried to turn into a discount and if that failed he still has a sell on clause so either way he keeps more money in his pocket? The man is a genius. Just ignore all the other stuff, the man is a genius.

  • Willie! August 7, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    Get ready to play Thurs nights in our new state of the art, concert venue/NFL gladiator arena/soccerball stadium. Because we’re not going to finish in the CL places if we don’t get some more depth, at premier league level. Ropa here we come, if we’re lucky.

  • Wig August 7, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    Without doubt our bench is completely inadequate. Our first 11 is more than decent but it goes to show how poor the backups are when someone like Trippier gets injured and Poch admits that KWP isn’t ready to fill his place. So absolutely we need to improve strength in depth in all positions. But Sigurdsson I really can’t excited about as I hope for better than that… what I’d love to see is Levy showing some actual ambition in the market and signing players who are as good as if not better than the first 11, with the ability to push a couple of the current first 11 to the bench. Look at how Wanyama came in last summer and allowed more rotation with Dier, Dembele and Winks. We need more of that calibre, high quality and experienced players who can go straight in the team, not some latest haircut from France who doesn’t improve competition in the squad. And that probably explains why we haven’t signed anyone this window, because Poch wants this calibre of player but Levy doesn’t support him with the required funds to complete the deals. If you pay peanuts you get monkeys, regardless of Levy’s belief of how unsustainable the market is

    • Dan B August 7, 2017 at 12:12 pm

      Genuinely not having a go because I agree with you…..but can you name some? I want the same, but our wage structure, what Levy will pay and generally identifying that calibre of player make it very hard.

      • Wig August 7, 2017 at 12:34 pm

        Yeah I appreciate it can be tough to identify prospective signings at that calibre who wouldn’t break our bottom of the barrel wage structure. But then I’m not a professional scout. I can’t confess to having known about Heung Min Son before he signed but clearly he has the attributes required. Same thing with Berbatov, never heard of him before. My point being there must be tons of the right players out there that our scouts would have identified that would fit the bill? Just because we’re all aware of Sigurdsson doesn’t mean that he’s the player we should go for ahead of the lesser knowns

        • Ronan August 7, 2017 at 12:48 pm

          Exactly. In the recent past, Spurs have had scouts who were able to identify outstanding talents on the continent, available at comparatively moderate cost. Little Luka was another. Suddenly, now that THFc has become a far more attractive proposition for such players, our continental scouts have been recommending only unusable garbage. Or, in the case of this window, seemingly nothing at all.

          • Dan B August 7, 2017 at 12:52 pm

            I doubt our scouts have changed focus, I would guess that the wrong targets are being progressed….possibly for wrong reasons, our recent signings were a lot more raw than anything we’ve bought in recent years. Which suggests one of the Levy buzzwords would be “potential” also known as “increased sell on value”

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 12:19 pm

      I actually blame that WendyCOYS bloke.

      He goes and watches every academy game and comes back so frothed up over the sight of sweaty young men he can’t see straight.Everyone’s amazing and will be knocking on the first team door next week.

      The propaganda that comes out out of that callow youth’s fountain pen has a lot to answer for.

      • AccringtonSpurs August 7, 2017 at 12:21 pm

        Agreed…

      • Dan B August 7, 2017 at 12:22 pm

        Couldn’t agree more.

        Too many have been “banging on the first team door” and never seen again. Grant Ward, Townsend, McGee, KWP (who doesn’t look ready at all), Carroll.

        It’s too easy to watch youth football and get excited but most of these guys aren’t strong enough physically and mentally to make it. It’s why players like Dele and Harry are so coveted, because they are the rarest of the rare

        • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 12:29 pm

          Rarest of the rare = not representative. Which is why Levy’s nutty boasting about the academy was so infuriating. There is no conveyor belt.

          • Wig August 7, 2017 at 12:42 pm

            H I think you discussed this in previous blogs about how the academy players are sometimes sold on, and when we get decent revenue for players like Pritchard, Caulker et al. then this is the conveyor belt of talent that Levy will be interested in. We know it’s all about business, not about the one in a million like Kane who make it through to the first team. Look at how Chelsea have regularly the best youth teams but virtually zero of the players break through to first team, but from a business perspective they are delighted when they sell players like Ake for £20M. That is the sort of conveyor belt that Levy aspires to replicate

            • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 1:33 pm

              Levy doesn’t have the football brain to spot players, worse yet he routinely fires anyone who attempts to assist in this respect.

              A talentless megalomaniac 😆

          • Dan B August 7, 2017 at 12:44 pm

            Definitely, there’s rumblings that even Barca’s academy has “dried up”, nobody has a conveyor belt of talent. As awful as it sounds, Chelsea raping the market and loaning out 900 players a season at over £3m per loan is arguably a better way to do it, takes the wages off your hands, give you a small “transfer fee” (some championship players are sold for less) and develops your players for you….giving them competitive game time……Levy would do it if he could…..I suspect that’s what he was trying with N’Jie but it failed massively.

  • Dan B August 7, 2017 at 11:52 am

    Whilst I don’t disagree with Levy trying to use the sell on clause to get a discount in comparison to swansea selling to other clubs and us pocketin cash anyway….I think we can all guess that he hugely underestimated what he thinks he should pay…hence siggy is going to Everton (but at least we get £5m to not spend on players).

    Some really crazy comments today, some shit about the community shield which makes no sense to anybody (who cares if one new signing started yesterday….Neither club are Spurs, neither club have the same needs that we do….also Morata is unfit and bakayogo injured….so there).

    Also lots of talk about siggy being a bench warmer/squad player….we will be crying out for him come January when our kids are knackered and we are active in 4 competitions.

    Crazy stuff this morning.

  • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 11:43 am

    Devonshirespur

    Of course a sell on clause if in our favour would be used as a discount if we are the buyer, as the seller gets the same net amount.

    If Everton spend £50m on him and we get £5m as a sell on then an offer from us at £45m makes not diff. to Swansea.

    The issue here is the level of offer. Net £35m would be equiv. to another club offering £38.89m. If EFC have offered more than that to Swansea then we are the under bidder in Net terms.

    Reportedly EFC offered £40m and rejected so we’d have to offer at least £36m to be on a par with EFC.

    Worlds gone mad when we’re thinking £45m is good value for a bench warmer !

    We sold Bonzo for £50m so we have parity. Why are you bleating about the market rate? Next you’ll be telling us when your dad was a boy a shilling could get you a bag pf broken biscuits, two seats at the picture house, a tram ride home, a copy of the Beano and look up Mary Green’s skirt.

  • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 11:42 am
  • Frontwheel 2 August 7, 2017 at 11:29 am

    We need to sign some ginger headed players,statistically they are all dirty mouthy cunts,we need a few cunts to ruffle a few feathers.All our players are far to nice and polite to each other.

    • Frontwheel 2 August 7, 2017 at 11:31 am

      Or a few from the travelling community,like Roy Kean.

  • Daniel Primus August 7, 2017 at 11:27 am

    We are not in for him, why would he come back! not worth the money , there are so many points on this one oh and there are better players we could target! forget this dude!!

  • Devonshirespur August 7, 2017 at 10:58 am

    Of course a sell on clause if in our favour would be used as a discount if we are the buyer, as the seller gets the same net amount.

    If Everton spend £50m on him and we get £5m as a sell on then an offer from us at £45m makes not diff. to Swansea.

    The issue here is the level of offer. Net £35m would be equiv. to another club offering £38.89m. If EFC have offered more than that to Swansea then we are the under bidder in Net terms.

    Reportedly EFC offered £40m and rejected so we’d have to offer at least £36m to be on a par with EFC.

    Worlds gone mad when we’re thinking £45m is good value for a bench warmer !

    • Johnny 2 hats August 7, 2017 at 11:17 am

      I agreecompletely, until you start assuming the sell on clause was 10%…

    • CantSmileWithoutYou August 7, 2017 at 11:21 am

      If seems that almost all my fellow Spurs supporters regard Siggurdsson as a ‘benchwarmer’, or squad/backup player. Is this just because that was the perception last time he was with us?

      He is a far better and more rounded a player now, than the one we sold. Do players not improve when they leave us?

      Sometimes we really are up our own arses.

      • Mattspurs August 7, 2017 at 11:25 am

        Barkley creates more from open play

        Enabling Siggy to shine would mean taking Eriksen off set pieces

        • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 11:32 am

          Matt, this sort of ‘analysis’ is embarrassing. This blog may be two bob, but it is aimed at adults.

          • Mattspurs August 7, 2017 at 11:43 am

            Do you want actual figures? Siggy is fantastic at set pieces (better than Eriken) but that’s the source of his assists and created chances. The guardian ran a piece on it last week

            • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 11:53 am

              ZZzzzzzzzz

              • mattspurs August 7, 2017 at 12:14 pm

                His [Siggy’s} tally of 13 assists last season was the third highest in the Premier League – behind just Kevin De Bruyne (18) and Christian Eriksen (15) – and fifth-equal in Europe’s top five leagues, where he tied with Luis Suárez, the most prolific assist provider in La Liga. However, only five of Sigurdsson’s assists came from open play, which puts him outside the top 20 in the Premier League and equal 85th in Europe, below the man he is tipped to replace at Goodison Park, Ross Barkley (who provided six assists from open play), and level with the returning Wayne Rooney, who had less than half as much gametime as Sigurdsson.

              • mattspurs August 7, 2017 at 12:17 pm

                Sigurdsson was not nearly as effective from open play last season [as from set pieces]. His figure of 25 key passes from open play was incredibly modest to say the least. It’s the same number that Gareth Barry and Idrissa Gueye produced for Everton from holding midfield and less than half of Barkley’s total (56).

                I guess the author does have to justify a job at who scored.com so he’ll use stats as much as he can but I wouldn’t say his journalism was two bob.

                • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 12:20 pm

                  Zzzzzzzzzzz

        • CantSmileWithoutYou August 7, 2017 at 11:42 am

          And your point is? That would be a good thing. Eriksson has scored one maybe two free kicks in the last three seasons, so siggy could take the direct ones. Eriksson could continue with the wide left or right, which he does seems good at. But you can take him off of corners, it would be good to see a corner going past the man short of the front post for a change

          • Mattspurs August 7, 2017 at 11:47 am

            I’m not making any point just an observation. Last time Siggy was with us Bale took most of the free kicks which is maybe why he was deemed ineffective. If Siggy plays he needs to be on set pieces.

      • AccringtonSpurs August 7, 2017 at 11:25 am

        This idea that players will come to warm the bench needs to be killed. The bench, when strong can be used both tactically and for rotation. In its current state, it’s simply used to give the first XI a rest or to cover injuries.

        Imagine if we could use our bench tactically.

        Players shouldn’t be bought just to warm the fucking thing.

        • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 11:30 am

          ‘Warm the bench’ is a phrase used by sexual inadequates and virgins.

      • Frontwheel 2 August 7, 2017 at 11:25 am

        He was always a great player,we just used him in the wrong way,he was the one that got away.Still,I don’t want him back,we can get better.

      • Daniel Primus August 7, 2017 at 11:42 am

        IMO he seemed good against the shit teams last season of course he shined in that awful team.

  • Panama Paul August 7, 2017 at 10:54 am

    Levy is a legend in his own lunchtime. He thinks he’s a big fish in a small pond but he’s just a short-sighted small fish in a big pond.
    He’s most likely the kind of guy that believes he’s really popular with his colleagues cos they’re nice to his face but they actually think he’s an utter tosser behind his back. The line of people who hate Levy would easily exceed the queue to get into a Spurs game. My guess is that he looks forward to catching up with Uncle Joe for a duffel bag update and getting a pat on the head a la little Jackie Wright.

  • TopOfThePochs August 7, 2017 at 10:52 am

    So I’m gonna ask this again.

    I have yet to find someone who can explain to me how selling Kyle Walker without having his replacement signed, or following in the door immediately, is in the best interests of THE TEAM and not purely a monetary decision at the cost of the playing side of the Football Club?

    How weakening our team in an area that is KEY to the system we play, whilst strengthening our direct rivals in the KEY area they struggled in, is good for THE TEAM and not purely a monetary decision at the cost of the playing side of the Football Club?

    • Panama Paul August 7, 2017 at 10:56 am

      E.N.I.C = Every Nickel Is Cherished

      • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 11:20 am

        🤣 Bravo

    • Camus August 7, 2017 at 10:57 am

      I don’t have an answer for you, mate. It’s a head-scratcher. But the quote from Levy about the stadium being important in order to ensure a sustainable business as opposed to any mention of footballing success or trophies may give you a clue.

    • Devonshirespur August 7, 2017 at 11:02 am

      The Walker replacement situation smacks of a total lack of the right people being in place in the scouting/transfer part of the business. I could understand if Poch first wanted to see KWP pre-season to make a judgement but surely he’s seen enough of him now to know he’s too raw and should then be moving for our RB targets…of which there should be many, sounded out, knowing how much they will cost etc, poised to hold up the chicken badge.

      • TopOfThePochs August 7, 2017 at 11:28 am

        No even that, KWP has been training with the 1st team. Lochs seen him over the last couple of years. There’s nothing a pre-season can tell him regarding if he’s ready or not. Posh shoulda judged that before The sale of Walker.

        Don’t sanction a sale at the cost of the team until you can ensure replacement, i.e: hold up the sale until you’re set to go.

        Instead we’re sat there like saps with every club knowing we need a RB and have around £70M or transfer sales to dip into at the very least – thats detrimental to the playing side of the club AND the financial side. Its nuts.

  • Gary M August 7, 2017 at 10:46 am

    I know I’m gonna get shot but here are a few players that would be good squad additions.
    King
    Drinkwater
    Albrighton
    Rodriquez
    Shaqiri
    Shawcross
    Reid
    Keane
    Jagielka
    All seem honest pro’s

    • Camus August 7, 2017 at 10:50 am

      Additions to weaken the squad further, you mean…?

      • Gary M August 7, 2017 at 11:14 am

        No their not going to be everybody’s cup of tea

    • TopOfThePochs August 7, 2017 at 10:52 am

      Eh?

  • Legoverlass August 7, 2017 at 10:40 am

    This transfer window has become a complete embarrassment and shown a lack of ambition regarding the “football” side of the business that has sent a clear message to the rest of the squad, the other teams in the EPL and the fans that there is no ambition to win anything and the only focus is leveraging money out of a top four spot at the minimum cost and to trade player assets. even if 2/3 no mark last minute signings are brought in they will not take the club to success this season and we can assume that the likes of Toby, Erickson and Ali will be looking for an exit next summer.

  • Al August 7, 2017 at 10:28 am

    I had a horrendous dream last night that the players went on strike in response to Levy’s window, and we had an old lady in goal. Can’t remember who we were playing (we were at home but it wasn’t wembley). We were duly pasted. Also almost no fans turned up.

    I later took a shit on a toilet in the middle of a crowded room. So hopefully it wasn’t a prophecy.

    Hopefully.

    • mattspurs August 7, 2017 at 10:29 am

      pretty vivid

      • Al August 7, 2017 at 10:30 am

        You should have been there mate.

        • mattspurs August 7, 2017 at 10:31 am

          I’m just hoping you didn’t shit the bed

          • Al August 7, 2017 at 11:09 am

            No comment

  • StuSpur August 7, 2017 at 10:27 am

    Siggy isn’t worth 50mil but it sure as hell doesn’t look like Poch has been given the green light to go for a 80mil player. Therefore we’re we’re in the silly market threatening to pay silly bucks for squad fillers

  • maximumspursman August 7, 2017 at 10:27 am

    What is Levy’s psyche – his motivation in all this? Constant references are made to ‘duffle bag money’ for Uncle Joe but does he / can he actually notice the ‘contribution’ given his vast wealth anyway! As I understand it, Levy is a Spurs fan / supporter. So what is the first wish of any fan…. to be successful and win something is my thought. I can give Levy credit for the ‘foundations’ laid but surely – following his business model – he will see more revenue (sponsors, season ticket sales etc) by having a side that wins things and going into a new stadium on the crest of a wave. Or is he more driven by showing Uncle Joe ‘look how much money I have made for you’ – and receiving a ‘pat on the head’?

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 10:41 am

      I’d love to know where the ‘He’s a Spurs fan’ line originated from.

      Probably by someone who noticed he was always at home games.

      • maximum spursman August 7, 2017 at 12:02 pm

        Apologies, I was under the impression that he was, in fact, a Spurs fan, supporter? If that is not the case then my theory is null and void

        • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 12:03 pm

          I was just curious to know where this wild allegation came from!

  • mattspurs August 7, 2017 at 10:23 am

    I’m pretty sure Levy pulled the same trick when we resigned Defoe – think the sell on % was bigger so £16 asking price became £12m after we’d got our 25% back!
    I still think we are only 2-3 players short of what we need after Walker’s departure. Onomah’s departure put’s further strain on the bench but I feel a RB, and two AM’s will see us good.

  • O-T August 7, 2017 at 10:12 am

    Even though I totally agree that Levy, when it comes to player recruitment, generally should look at the bigger picture rather than focusing on being on the “winning” side (financially) on every transfer, I have to say that it makes sense if THFC required discount equal to the applicable sell-on percentage (if that is what happened). In fact, it would not make sense at all if THFC would not benefit at all if we decided to buy back a player with a sell-on clause. In my mind, that would disquallify repurchasing almost any player (with a few world-class exceptions currently at Real Madrid).

  • O-T August 7, 2017 at 10:10 am

    Even though I totally agree that Levy, when it comes to player recruitment, generally should look at the bigger picture rather than focusing on being on the “winning” side (financially) on every transfer, I have to say that it makes sense if THFC required discount equal to the applicable sell-on percentage (if that is what happened). In fact, it would not make sense at all if THFC would not benefit at all if we decided to buy back a player with a sell-on clause. In my mind, that would disquallify repurchasing almost any player (with a few world-class exceptions currently at Real Madrid).
    O-T

  • Daniel Primus August 7, 2017 at 9:48 am

    Given the way things look at the moment, you would think we should be trying to get someone like him , which will encourage eriksen to be as consistent as possible yes i get this but in my honest opinion he is not what we need! surely we need a pacey winger is that not obvious oh and a RB!

    something has to happen this week right?

  • Mike August 7, 2017 at 9:44 am

    From what I understand form the information provided above, the sell on clause is 30%, right? So if Swansea sell Siggy to Everton for £50m, we get £15m. And if they sell him to Leicester for £50m, we get £15m? So if they sell him to us for £35m, they will be no worse off? That seems like a reasonable position to take in a negotiation. 3 clubs all offering the same net amount for the player. My conclusion is that it would then come down to the player’s preference.

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:49 am

      The sell on clause was never guessed at ‘above’

      • Mike August 7, 2017 at 9:59 am

        I’m having to guess because it was not stated anywhere here.

        • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 10:20 am

          That’s because Gladys didn’t give me a figure – I didn’t mean to sound mean – but in a week’s time some pilchard will quote your % as being published by me and demand to one where I got the number from.

          • Mike August 7, 2017 at 10:24 am

            Unless we know the figure, we can’t know that this tactic is the reason we won’t be signing Siggy (if indeed we don’t, or ever were likely to).

            • DaveMcG August 7, 2017 at 12:34 pm

              I don’t see our financial wiz of a chairman misunderstanding the value of a % sell on. If we offered £35m as a figure in terms of parity, I see no reason to suggest that the he would have done that assuming we could get a discount. It doesn’t make sense one bit. Siggy although great at times and came up with some important goals, Isn’t going to take us from 2–> 1 or prevent us from going from 2–> 5th. He’s mediocre. I don’t understand, knowing levys love of cash, how he would decide to buy a player towards the peak of his career (& sell on value) at the clubs record transfer price. Barkley makes sense and would go past a player, something we could do with.

    • mattspurs August 7, 2017 at 10:24 am

      I heard it was only 10% for Siggy

      • caveman August 7, 2017 at 10:29 am

        I heard it was 7.86434%

  • Camus August 7, 2017 at 9:32 am

    Levy does love a good FFP anecdote. So, genuine question – if we were to spend the £70-80mill of cash we’ve received from player sales this summer, would we be hovering on the precipice of FFP doom? Just so we can clear this up one way or another.

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:37 am

      Hahahahaha – have you learned nothing? Money we receive must be sent to Uncle Joe who sets fire to it because money is very very bad.

      • Camus August 7, 2017 at 9:43 am

        When his time on this earth is done, he’s going to be gently pushed off the coast of the Bahamas in a flaming Viking ship full of 5.7billion in US dollars, right…?

        • melcyid August 7, 2017 at 2:47 pm

          hes not going to be burned,he is going to have his head frozen

    • Gary M August 7, 2017 at 9:47 am

      It’s not the transfer money, we could spend all that but Levy will only pay a certain percentage in operating costs towards wages.
      Their is approx £250,000-£300,000 to play with, then consider our wage structure, think the highest earner is on approx £115,000 p/w so a Neymar, Bale, Sanchez etc we are not going to get, I prescribe Ibrufen it really does help in a darkened room with eye shades.

  • Pocholosophy August 7, 2017 at 9:26 am

    how does this information come to light? any sane person would not pay more than £25m for Siggurdson. he doesnt improve our 11. should help Everton to 7th.

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:38 am

      You came on here to tell us that footballers are overpriced? Sensational stuff. I await your next insight with a sense of awe.

    • Cptcaveman August 7, 2017 at 10:38 am

      We wouldn’t be buying him to improve our first eleven, we would be buying him to vastly improve our poor options off of the bench…and dare I even mention an injury to Ericksen or Dele…this guy can hit the ground more than running. I got a D in maths but in the current crazy climate I’d put that value at around 50mil.

  • Gary M August 7, 2017 at 9:24 am

    We all know the transfer prices are nuts for average players this season, slap head moans about this but he has played his part in inflating transfer fees, his sell em high buy them low tactics seem to have caught up with him.
    Nothing like looking at the glass half empty Levy, even if Levy sold a player for £300 million their is only approx £250, 000 spare for wages a week so it’s abacus time.
    1 X Barkley at 100,000 p/w
    2 X others at 75,000 p/w
    As other clubs. seem to have invested heavily this season and given FFP the (shove it syndrome), which Levy loves incidentally is it a surprise we struggle to sign anyone.

  • Still Nil Nil August 7, 2017 at 9:23 am

    I’m not a businessman by any stretch of the imagination
    But how the fuck did levy get this far in the world?

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:26 am

      I could get thrown out the Magic Circle for telling you this… but when you own an EPL club, you can get away with murder because you have so much damn money there are so very few cock ups you can’t cover up.

      • Still Nil Nil August 7, 2017 at 10:19 am

        Received

      • Still Nil Nil August 7, 2017 at 10:23 am

        I meant before he took over at Spurs cos if he shat on other businessmen in any other type of business in the way he does other clubs he’d have been spat out

        • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 10:27 am

          Oh he’d be a failed factory accountant and go on a killing spree in Wimpy bar. He’s nuts.

          • Still Nil Nil August 7, 2017 at 10:29 am

            He’s a shit ‘bricktop’

    • Gary M August 7, 2017 at 9:51 am

      Area 51, enough said !

  • TopOfThePochs August 7, 2017 at 9:22 am

    Lets get things right, leaving your signings until the end of the window is not a way to pick up quality bargains.

    You’re either squeezing down the price of a player in the last year of their contract, you’re picking up the unwanted offcuts or you are paying well over the odds to attain a top player.

    Clubs know a club is desperate in the last weeks of the window, particularly if you are yet to make any signings whatsoever.

    Some clubs, with the new TV money, can simply refuse to sell as they aren’t as desperate as they used to be.

    So, we know Levy won’t pay over the odds for a player. And when he does its someone like Sissoko who was only ever a panic buy.

    Whats more from a potential signings point of view, what message have THFC put out this summer? We came 2nd last year and do we look like a team thats serious about pushing on and winning things at this point?

    So are all these signings in the last year of their contracts?
    Or has Levy simply just stuffed it up once again?

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:27 am

      ‘Our bench’ is now my new two word answer to anyone accepting of Levy’s transfer ‘policy’.

      • CantSmileWithoutYou August 7, 2017 at 9:48 am

        It’d be ok if 1987 and you were allowed two subs…but it’s not and it’s seven. Which we don’t have.

        • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 10:21 am

          In 1987 we’d be in trouble!

      • TopOfThePochs August 7, 2017 at 10:00 am

        Poch has put a clear message out there, our excellent academy prospect Kyle Walker-Peters is not ready. Even after saying they have FULL faith in our young players (Hows that for mixed messages?)

        I have yet to find someone who can explain to me how selling Kyle Walker without having his replacement signed, or following in the door immediately, is in the best interests of THE TEAM.
        How weakening our team in an area that is KEY to the system we play, whilst strengthening our direct rivals in the KEY area they struggled in, is good for THE TEAM?

  • CantSmileWithoutYou August 7, 2017 at 9:20 am

    crespur
    Out of the 22 players that took to the field at Wembly for the Charity Shield, there was only 1 (one) new signing for two teams who are deemed to have vast amounts of money to spend. All the ranting, raving and hand wringing by Morons on here and other sites bemoaning the lack of signings to date by Spurs, need to back the truck up and allow Danny boy to do what he’s good at. In-comings will happen but they have to be the right ones. Sigurdsen isn’t one them. I will be surprised if any of the top six field more than a handful (in total) of new signings for the opening matches. Spurs go with the tried and proven and will only add quality backup.

    At least the rest of the top six have the luxury of a handful of new signings for the opening matches! Walker sold, Son and Rose still not ready. Lamela still injured until whenever. Dele out of the UCL first 3 games and as i said before our squad, well actually, bench is threadbare. Need additions, we really do and I think anyone who thinks otherwise is bordering on moronic.

  • royalspur August 7, 2017 at 9:19 am

    We do need a RB for sure, I think against the toon he will play sissoko RM with 3 at the back , who knows with him he won’t be the last to take a season to settle, we need Barkley to put pressure on dembele , he needs to get in the box as he did away to the gooners and won a pen

  • crespur August 7, 2017 at 9:12 am

    Out of the 22 players that took to the field at Wembly for the Charity Shield, there was only 1 (one) new signing for two teams who are deemed to have vast amounts of money to spend. All the ranting, raving and hand wringing by Morons on here and other sites bemoaning the lack of signings to date by Spurs, need to back the truck up and allow Danny boy to do what he’s good at. In-comings will happen but they have to be the right ones. Sigurdsen isn’t one them. I will be surprised if any of the top six field more than a handful (in total) of new signings for the opening matches. Spurs go with the tried and proven and will only add quality backup.

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:15 am

      Thank you for that patronising guff. Let’s save this gem and remind you of it at Christmas.

      • crespur August 7, 2017 at 12:07 pm

        You’re welcome, consider yourself well Guffed…patron. Looks like you’ll have your usual Xmas fare of ‘umble pie. Remind me again where you predicted we’d finish last season, and I presume you’ll have your usual flutter of a top half finish.

    • Ronan August 7, 2017 at 9:17 am

      Only a true moron thinks this is the transfer window Spurs needed if they were to bridge the gap to Chelsea. Poch call for newcomers to be signed early in order that they could adapt to his demands and be ready to fire from the off. With less than a week to kickoff, we’ve sold the highest-rated RB in the PL to the title favourites

  • CantSmileWithoutYou August 7, 2017 at 9:08 am

    I like Siggy, always have. I would have a signed him weeks ago and definateky now with a week to go, a weak squad and £70+ m sitting in our account. But as always Levy will look for a bargain and that will be Barkley.

    If the fee is 50m then to us it’s 45m right? Surely all clubs will try to factor this in?? I’ve always assumed this is the case.

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:17 am

      I’m predicting we sign Barkley whilst recovering from his operation, only to discover he’ll never play again six weeks into the season.

      • CantSmileWithoutYou August 7, 2017 at 9:23 am

        6 weeks? At least 18 months. That’s the usual timespan for admitting career ending injuries…Lamela.

        • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:29 am

          Aaaaaagggghhhh!

  • Spurs Nut D August 7, 2017 at 9:07 am

    As before I don’t think we were truly interested in Siggy and only showed a interest to force Everton to move. This would then mean DL could force down the price of Barkley as Everton had a replacement bought and needed the money. Barkley seems to be our no1 man but his price is for someone in the last year of a contract miles to expensive.

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:11 am

      Can you explain to me – in less than a thousand words how Levy would ‘force down’ the price of Barkley by doing this? I genuinely don’t understand.

      • Spurs Nut D August 7, 2017 at 12:29 pm

        As the window draws to close Everton will have to sell or risk getting nothing for Barkley. If they have bought Siggy they will be forced to accept what they can for Barkley. By forcing the Everton hand and showing a fake interest same as we did with Liverpool a year or so ago we forced the players price up and got a better deal with Trippier.

  • GeoG August 7, 2017 at 9:07 am

    This is not true.

    • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:09 am

      In which case, you’ll not miss having your posting privileges being removed!

  • Camus August 7, 2017 at 9:06 am

    Morning gents, I’m putting together a party playlist to lift everyone’s spirits. We’re going to kick off with this huuuuge party anthem! Add your own suggestions under mine. Go!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJblaUkkfc

  • Camus August 7, 2017 at 9:02 am

    Denial has this alllllllllllllllll in hand. You’ll see.

  • Giovanni Discenza August 7, 2017 at 9:02 am

    Siggy is not a 50million player-though more so than Walker.

    • Buckspur August 7, 2017 at 9:24 am

      Totally agree. lots of short memories on here. is Siggy any better than he was when he was sold.A decent player who wouldn’t get anywhere near our first eleven. £50m for a back up player… yeah right!

      • Harry Hotspur August 7, 2017 at 9:39 am

        You need to post more – on Vital Spurs.

        Nobody’s interested in whether footballers are overpriced or not. Because the answer is ‘yes’.

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