Date: 8th January 2017 at 7:37pm
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Vincent Janssen’s signing for Tottenham Hotspur Football Club wasn’t entirely his own fault.

It’s important not to lose sight of such matters when talking about a player in a manner that could be seen as vilifying.

Clearly the man had a CV, a career before he joined us.

That said, Vinny to Spurs hasn’t worked.

Oh and yes, this is a nasty, awful finite statement.

The poor guy is not a fit back up to Kane and this games against a 5th rate Aston Villa has proved that even a side like Villa wouldn’t view him as an obvious upgrade.

The January window is upon us.

Talk to me.

 
Comments
  • Borris January 9, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    Although I must say its nice to see us playing well in the league again,. I’m gonna enjoy it before the Europa starts up again

  • Borris January 9, 2017 at 3:18 pm

    I cant be arsed much these days HH,. Do you know I had 4 of my Spurs mates all taking the piss out of me saying I talk shit, .. They are all fucking morons, every fucking one of them,. The club must fucking love people like my clown mates that say we haven’t got any money and what more do you want, and Jannsen ‘will come good’ etc etc ,. Honestly, the amount of poeple that can’t see the reality of situations right in front of them, because someone on a box or in a paper has told em something different,. Oh how informed you are, oh how wiser you are to repeat whatever Paul Mersin or Patrick Barclay or whatever other cunt has said ,.,.

    Yours with love, a now hair-less fan in Basingstoke 😂

    • Harry Hotspur January 9, 2017 at 5:24 pm

      ‘Coming good’ is something we specialise in – the problem is too few fail to see that going hand in hand with not bloody winning anything.

  • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    moussa dembele 2016/17

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cle7IM9KWBA

    not sure he’s any better than what we have – if you watch, make sure you watch the whole thing

    • Ronan January 9, 2017 at 2:33 pm

      Seriously, mate, you watched that and thought he’s no better than Janssen? And that was compiled after just 9 appearances. I’ve seen him about a dozen times this season, incl against Barca, City and Moenchengladbach, and imo he’s got everything.

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 9, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    The kid needed 90 minutes yesterday. No matter what may or may not have happened after he went off.

    • MartinChiversAuntie January 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm

      he’s had lots of 90 mins already

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? January 9, 2017 at 3:44 pm

        One for the road…..

        • MartinChiversAuntie January 9, 2017 at 4:08 pm

          roads are flat in Holland

  • Tony January 9, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Striker gain confidence from playing and knowing they will be playing week in and week out. Thinking you will be subbed if you have not scored by half time leads to anxiety and brings out the worst in them ie trying to hard.
    If you are going to play one up front as we do Jansson will get few chances to shine and it will be a self fufilling prophesy.
    You need a different kind of back up striker for our system either one at the end of their career who has done it so many times that they don’t doubt themselves or an up and coming with no fear.
    Sadly for Vincent he is neither

  • UnkleTaff January 9, 2017 at 1:52 pm

    http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/684579/Moussa-Dembele-Celtic-Fulham-Arsenal-Tottenham-Transfer-News-Rumours-Gossip

    “I had a few offers but I didn’t have the same one I had with Celtic in terms of football,” he added. “I think it’s the best place for me to be.”

    • Ronan January 9, 2017 at 2:02 pm

      There was never any mention of Spurs having made an offer for him after January.

  • MartinChiversAuntie January 9, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    I would like to make a formal proposal to Harry that Nkoudo starts a game soon.

    • Citizen Smozz January 9, 2017 at 1:53 pm

      You could get banned for that 😂

    • Harry Hotspur January 9, 2017 at 2:11 pm

      Thank Christ I’m not picking the team!

      • MartinChiversAuntie January 9, 2017 at 2:18 pm

        Sanctioned.

  • Camus January 9, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    My honest appraisal… It isn’t looking too clever for Janssen right now but, as others have said, he hasn’t played many games for us yet and look at the time Lamela was given to finally come good (about a season and a half)…
    Janssen needs coaching though – to look for forward runs, not this incessant back-to-goal, pulling away from the penalty area style stuff. He made a nice one-two with someone yesterday, looking to move forwards and pop a cross/shot in. If he does more of that, the goals would start to come, I believe. But he does need a few games (in the cups) with maybe Eriksen, Rose & Alli around him to play off. I haven’t given up on him yet.

  • Ronwol196061 January 9, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    About Dele. He like Kane has struggled at times but they both have renewed energy and so has Eriksen. So has Sissoko the last couple of games and hopefully Janssen will follow

  • MarkFalco January 9, 2017 at 1:04 pm

    Re. Janssen, cast your mind back to when he led the line in Kane’s enforced absence and just how poor we looked. We blamed the team in many cases when in actual fact his lack of movement up front was likely the problem considering the better opposition we played in those PL and CL games.
    Personally if Kane was out again, or if he has to be rested as he inevitably will (or we face meltdown again at back end), and if Levy fails to act and bring somebody else in this Jan, then I’d rather put Alli as a false 9 in a 4-3-3 than play Janssen TBH. We know Son doesn’t fit that role, but Alli just might – who knows? Anything has to be better than that Dutch cardboard cut-out TBH.
    Give Sissoko a chance, he’s improving game on game and already has several assists. At least we know he fits the PL. His powerful runs can make him dangerous for defences, patience on this one.

  • MarkFalco January 9, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    mattspurs
    Dembele was out of contract but due to Fulham’s transfer ban they would only sell if he was loaned back for the rest of the season – Dembele refused to sign on this basis. Dembele then went to Celtic knowing he’d be first choice and turned down Spurs and Chelsea for a starting place in the SPL.

    That’s simply not true mate and bears little relation to fact:
    Whilst it’s correct that he would have been loaned back to Fulham for the rest of the season (2015-16), he could still have joined Spurs and in fact favoured doing so having toured our facilities on several occasions, and being very enthusiastic about Poch’s project. But the deal was called off by Levy presumably to save money after the Janssen deal?
    As for going to Celtic to be no.1 striker – well NO, not with 26 yr old Lee Griffiths already playing that role!

    • mattspurs January 9, 2017 at 1:19 pm

      He didn’t want to go back on loan to Fulham as he knew he could just sit out his contract and then negotiate better terms – given there was no transfer fee involved how was Levy saving money by not signing him other than not meeting his salary demands?

      Dembele has played in every SPL game this season. He’s also played in every European game. He’s played more games and scored more goals than Griffiths – now I don’t follow the SPL but those stats ( I don’t even know if Celtic play one or two up front) would point to Dembele being a pretty integral player in Celtic’s first 11?

    • mattspurs January 9, 2017 at 1:32 pm

      Also, we signed Janssen two weeks after Dembele signed for Celtic

      • UnkleTaff January 9, 2017 at 1:35 pm

        That’s very unfair. Introducing facts into the discussion…

        • MarkFalco January 9, 2017 at 1:40 pm

          Only is they’re facts and not creamed off HITC or some other shitty outlet.

          • UnkleTaff January 9, 2017 at 1:44 pm

            “But the deal was called off by Levy presumably to save money after the Janssen deal?”

            Dembele signed for Celtic on the 28th June.
            Janssen signed for us on the 12th of July.

            Which part of this are you having difficulty with?

            • Ronan January 9, 2017 at 1:45 pm

              The bit where we allowed a player who’d had a medical with us in Jan to sign for Celtic in the summer for £0.5m

      • Ronan January 9, 2017 at 1:37 pm

        Please provide link for where you saw he turned down Spurs.

        • MarkFalco January 9, 2017 at 1:39 pm

          Exactly Ronan, what Matt is saying is nothing but gossip – why would anyone turn down Spurs for Celtic residing in a joke league? I mean come on get real buddy!

          • Ronan January 9, 2017 at 1:43 pm

            He’s an exceptional talent, so I just want some clarification as to why we didn’t go back in for him. Or else some evidence that we did go back in but he turned Levy and Poch down in order to go to the SPL.

          • UnkleTaff January 9, 2017 at 1:49 pm

            If it’s such a “joke league” why are his goal-scoring stats being treated with any degree of seriousness? It’s probably more or less on a par with the Dutch league where Janssen was scoring for fun last year. Stick Janssen in that Celtic team and he’d quite possibly be having the same level of success that Dembele is.

      • MarkFalco January 9, 2017 at 1:38 pm

        If you recall the Janssen deal dragged on for months so the deal was basically already done and Levy just wanted to save £5m and a salary at the end of the day. He’s got previous you know….

  • caveman January 9, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    Nothing was happening on the pitch yesterday until N’Koudou came on. He lit the place up. We need to allow him to blend into the team. Sissoko has that subtle pass in him and he doesn’t panic, but he runs like an old hen, awkward, definitely not a great buy. Winks on the other hand is going to be awesome.

    • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:53 pm

      When Lamela comes back, Sissoko plays where? Expensive second eleven player to have.

      • Ronwol196061 January 9, 2017 at 1:01 pm

        Glos,Lamela has played well at times.Certainly on the defensive side but on the attacking side he shows some pretty play but underperforms. With his talent he should do more. But sometimes I feel that his vision is not thr greatest.He runs into trouble a lot and he doesn’t make enough happen. As I say he certainly has the talent but can he think his way through? I’m not sure.
        I think Sissoko has power and that helps Pochs system,even if mistakes are made

    • Ronwol196061 January 9, 2017 at 1:02 pm

      Cavey yes 100% agree about NK

    • mattspurs January 9, 2017 at 1:19 pm

      Sissoko can’t kick with his left foot

  • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    Ivy Jane Kane. Well, congrats to the parents, but Jane in front of Kane? And also IJK are consecutive letters of the alphabet, so maybe some weird numerology going on here.

    • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:55 pm

      Mind you, doesn’t that baby take the mother’s surname if unmarried? No sure if Kane is correct.

      • caveman January 9, 2017 at 12:57 pm

        Well Harry himself tweeted ‘Ivy Jane Kane’.

        • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:58 pm

          He thinks. The registrar might break it to him.

          • Harry Hotspur January 9, 2017 at 1:00 pm

            Why are you inventing a scenario of estrangement?

            • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 1:02 pm

              Just checked, and the mum chooses any surname she likes, so it can be Kane, or indeed, anything.

              • caveman January 9, 2017 at 1:15 pm

                Glos, sometimes your far too picky.

              • Harry Hotspur January 9, 2017 at 2:39 pm

                Got a link?

      • Harry Hotspur January 9, 2017 at 12:58 pm

        Kane is correct.

  • Ronwol196061 January 9, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    Sissoko looked shit the last two games but now he looks like a player.
    Janssen can do the same. They just need to find the key

    “We are a staff that push the players a lot and we will push him to try to get the level that the team need from him.”

    Maybe that’s exactly what he doesn’t need

    • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:44 pm

      It doesn’t look likely that we will bring in another striker this January, so Janssen will get more game time I hope. He’ll score the winner in the FA Cup final, just wait.

      • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 12:45 pm

        Kane may be on paternity leave, so we might see him against WBA

    • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 12:44 pm

      Sissoko has 4 assists in all comps, so is making a case for his inclusion. But other than the odd assist does he achieve anything on the pitch? A 40-yard driving run that ends in losing possession doesn’t count.

      Whatever one’s opinion of him, he’s not a £30m game-changing player.

      • Ronwol196061 January 9, 2017 at 12:54 pm

        Sissoko is turning it around,he isn’t there yet but in the last two games has shown his power and his ability to take on players. He also beautifully assistd on the second goal. Its only two games but the signs are there.Lets see.

  • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:30 pm

    WBA next up. I don’t normally give much thought to the Black Country team, but we really have unfinished business with the buggers after they played out of their skins to screw us in the title chase. The team really need to put those feckers to the sword with some clinical finishing this time.

    • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 12:36 pm

      We really need to give them a footballing lesson.

      Or more to the point, give Pulis a sleepless night.

  • MysteriousStranger January 9, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    Can’t quite believe I’m saying this, but anyone fancy us buying back the midget gem and loaning Janssen to Sunderland for the rest of the season, to soften the blow?

    • gus January 9, 2017 at 12:29 pm

      He can still find the way to the onion bag can’t he

      • MysteriousStranger January 9, 2017 at 12:31 pm

        And offside… but I guess he could serve a purpose! Especially in the Europa.

    • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:31 pm

      But would you play Defoe, or just have him on standby?

      • MysteriousStranger January 9, 2017 at 12:32 pm

        To play in cups and to have on standby.

    • son of mido January 9, 2017 at 12:36 pm

      He would be better than Berahino….. my idea would be to offer Janssen to Celtic in exchange for Dembele….. would be nice but won’t happen…..
      Its nearly time for the Isco (he’s replaced Damaio as the BS window signing!) pantomime to commence as we approach 31st Jan!

      • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 12:37 pm

        Isco has allegedly told his teammates that he wants to join City in the summer.

  • Hartley January 9, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    Anyone missing Lamela?

    • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 12:17 pm

      nope, and I think we’re playing better as a team.

    • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:22 pm

      Lamela? Rings a bell. 🔔

    • MysteriousStranger January 9, 2017 at 12:23 pm

      Yep.

      • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:24 pm

        You keeping track of his progress back? Is he in training yet?

        • gus January 9, 2017 at 12:29 pm

          Apparently headed to Roma to consult Doctors there as the hip injury won’t resolve. I think he will be of value when he gets back into first team action

          • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:32 pm

            How odd that he can’t get appropriate treatment in London. Mind you, it’s freezing in Rome at the moment, so I hope he doesn’t slip over!

        • MysteriousStranger January 9, 2017 at 12:29 pm

          He was in Rome getting treatment last I read.

  • MartinChiversAuntie January 9, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    We also bought Sisoko, ouch. But we did buy Wanyama, which is turning into a great buy and Nkoudo looks to be like he could be exceptional, he needs 3-4 games back to back in the prem

  • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    So, if we give Real Madrid first refusal on the Boy Wonder Dele, can we get Isco on loan now, with a view to buying him in the summer, in return? Special Relationship and all that jazz.

    • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 12:17 pm

      neither is happening, bruv

      • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:21 pm

        Not to sell Dele, but merely they get first dibs if the time comes and HE wants to go elsewhere.

  • Bruxie January 9, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    I am convinced that TfL is run by gooners.

    Yesterday…

    No trains to or from N’humberland Park;
    No Underground after 18:00;
    Buses taking !hr 30mins from N’humberland Park to Euston or KX.

    WHL Stn only. 90 min wait.

    Infrastructure broken for 30K crowds…cannot wait for the 61k crowds in 18 months!
    No work started on local stations yet.

    So I didn’t go yesterday.
    Would have had to drive to Enfield and find a parking space.

    It’s bollocks.

  • Ronan January 9, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    “Dembele then went to Celtic knowing he’d be first choice and turned down Spurs and Chelsea for a starting place in the SPL”

    Could you provide a link just to reassure me on that please, mate.

    mattspurs
    Dembele was out of contract but due to Fulham’s transfer ban they would only sell if he was loaned back for the rest of the season – Dembele refused to sign on this basis. Dembele then went to Celtic knowing he’d be first choice and turned down Spurs and Chelsea for a starting place in the SPL.

    Do you have a link to where you saw he turned down Spurs, Matt? In this Guardian interview last month he seemed excited to come to Spurs and be MD mk II. But there’s no mention that Levy renewed contact with Fulham after January. Dembele wasn’t starting every game for Celtic this season until Leigh Griffiths got injured in Sept, so it would be odd if he’d turned down a top 3 English PL side with only one other striker.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/dec/06/celtic-moussa-dembele-brendan-rodgers-champions-league?client=ms-android-orange-gb

  • gus January 9, 2017 at 11:56 am

    Just got home from Malaysia and sat down to watch Spurs Cheatski. I have purposely stayed off social media so I could surprise myself with the result and… HUZZAH!!!

    • 61SpursNut🌰 January 9, 2017 at 11:57 am

      Did we win again?

      • gus January 9, 2017 at 11:59 am

        Farken aye!!! 😉 That Del boy has some work ons but jeez he has a knack of getting into good positions. Eriksen was fab! And with Our D line and Victor on the case we can beat anyone

  • Hartley January 9, 2017 at 11:54 am

    This fucking tube strike has not affected me whatsoever in any way shape or form. Fuck the bastards

    • 61SpursNut🌰 January 9, 2017 at 11:55 am

      Dunt the Norvern line go to Yoorkshah!

      • Hartley January 9, 2017 at 11:57 am

        Not today it dunt.

    • SpurAndy January 9, 2017 at 12:00 pm

      The first 30 years of travelling on the tube is the worst. After that it gets much better.

    • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:06 pm

      Is the horse drawn tram still running up there?

      • Hartley January 9, 2017 at 12:10 pm

        Horses can’t draw….

        • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:11 pm

          Photo finish?

          • Hartley January 9, 2017 at 12:16 pm

            Negative.

  • 61SpursNut🌰 January 9, 2017 at 11:48 am

    BTW Tickets for Wembley on sale now to Bronzed Yids.

  • SpurAndy January 9, 2017 at 11:45 am

    I put all my emotional commitment into Soldado. If ever there was a player who deserved to succeed it was him imo. With Vince I’ll give him every chance to succeed while he wears the shirt. The difference is that with Bobby I could see a good player in there who had a lot of technical ability. With Vince I see a strong, committed player who holds the ball up well and lays off a decent ball from time to time. I don’t see a natural top quality scorer. I even think Berahino has more ability, not that I want him near this club. Vince will need to go on loan to see if he develops. He needs a consistent run of matches and then a final judgement can be made.

    • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 11:54 am

      I agree. Send him out on loan and get someone else in to cover Kane.

      Let’s not forget that Janssen has had a consistent run of games when Kane was out injured. 10 starts in total.

      What Soldado and Janssen share is that neither can run at a defence like Aguero or Costa can. Soldado in particular needed crosses which, we weren’t providing him, but he didn’t have the ability to do much else.

      Janssen plays some nice interchanges to get into the box, but doesn’t create space for himself so is closely man-marked – often choosing to come deeper or wider to pick up the ball (and lose his marker) instead of getting himself in the box and making runs beyond defenders into space in the box.

      Dembele looks like he can run at a defence and cause problems. Janssens not causing problems.

      • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:09 pm

        Yes, but also remember that back then when Janssen came in, we were criticising Eriksen for being shit, Dele was injured or half fit, and Lamela was also pretty rubbish.

        • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:10 pm

          In fact, no one was playing too well, and Janssen was supposed to prosper in a dysfunctional team back then?

          • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 12:14 pm

            Fair point.

            Yet Janssen is not the ‘type’ of striker we need. We need someone who can make their own goals, not rely on “service” (again).

            • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:18 pm

              Levy doesn’t seem likely to fork out the huge sum needed to a proven striker in the mould of Ronaldo. 😐

              • AccringtonSpurs January 9, 2017 at 12:21 pm

                You’re saying we can’t afford the good ones?

                • Gloster1861 January 9, 2017 at 12:25 pm

                  No. We can afford them, but that’s not the same as saying Levy will open his tight fist. Short arms, deep pockets.

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