Date: 23rd April 2018 at 10:27am
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Kane has broken the media blackout and spoked to the Evening Standard.

You may need to suspend your disbelief and so get yourself on the same mental level as him.

“There’s obviously a reason why we’re falling short in the semi-finals, or in the big games. So we have to do better. I wouldn’t be able to tell you exactly what it is. But it’s frustrating. It’s frustrating personally, it’s frustrating for the team. But yeah, we just have to find our way around it.

“It’s annoying. It’s hard to put a finger on why. But we weren’t good enough. It was an even game. They got their noses in front and that was the end of it.”

The last time someone this dumb was this puzzled, it was an Essex girl who had tipped out a carton of Frosties on her kitchen table and was trying to make Tony The Tiger’s face out of the pieces.

When your football manager goes public with your club not being fussed about a competition, this isn’t reverse psychology, it’s sabotage.

If a warehouse foreman told the workforce that productivity was down – but ‘don’t worry about it, because the order we’re fulfilling isn’t worth much either way’ what might you expect to happen? Would the workforce see the foreman as they pal and get him pint after work, or would the workforce bust a gut to get the work up to date?

What has transpired at Spurs over the weekend frankly beggars belief.

 
Comments
  • Sexy Beast April 23, 2018 at 6:19 pm

    Some pleb on Talkshite earlier said he’d give Pooch one more year, then what, rely on baldy who went through how many managers before he got lucky with MP?
    FFS we have had a decent season away from fortress WHL.

    • gloster1861 April 23, 2018 at 6:21 pm

      Yes, but Pochettino miscalculated the ethos of the FA cup. Ok, not what it once meant, but adding to our list of semi final defeats is poisonous to the club morale.

    • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 8:56 pm

      Yep.

  • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 6:18 pm
  • gloster1861 April 23, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    Pochettino’s meeting with Daniel went something like this:

  • paul April 23, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    Freund or Foe April 23, 2018 at 5:39 pm
    No problem, I’ll get back to you on that at some point.

    FOF there was no reply button to your last but i’d genuinely welcome any sort of evidence-based account of how our team has improved this season over last, what it is i am missing about the continued efficacy of ‘the project’, including how we are ‘competing’ by finishing lower in the league than last season, selling Bonzo and now Tobes, buying Sissoko and Aurier, as well as choking in the CL and pre-dismissing an FA cup semi-final and the fans desperate desire for a trophy as meaningless. And how we are just where we need to be in terms of being ready and able to compete and finish above a further strengthened Shitty, Manure and Pooh next season.

    • Camus April 23, 2018 at 5:59 pm

      Hi paul, are you aware that we’ve played every single PL match away this season? 34 away games and counting…
      Is that a fair comparison that you’re making there?

      • Camus April 23, 2018 at 6:01 pm

        We were also much-improved in the CL this season, even beating Real Madrid.

      • paul April 23, 2018 at 6:05 pm

        I’m looking at what’s happening overall with the team/squad and it’s direction Cam, plus what’s going on around us and trying to square that reality with what comes out of Poch’s gob. Wembley was/is a factor but one limited to the first third of the season, it’s not like we’ve been short of support there. Btw no-one was happier than me about RM!

    • caveman April 23, 2018 at 6:02 pm

      I don’t think you are Paul. I think the relationship between Poch and Levy has become strained (over the quality of signings) and Poch is rebelling. He’s said to Levy, okay if you don’t extend Toby’s contract, I won’t play him. His attitude recently is dour and negative. I think the relationship (made in heaven) is seriously strained.
      FFS he has even hinted at leaving.

      • paul April 23, 2018 at 6:08 pm

        Could be Cavey, guess none of us will really know until something happens and we hear about it or Harry gets some pearls from Glad. Not playing Tobes in the semi was inexplicable, bordered on negligence.

      • gloster1861 April 23, 2018 at 6:10 pm

        Leverage, as Ronwol says, needs to be applied to the skinflint sitting atop his eyrie at Tottingham Towers.

        • paul April 23, 2018 at 6:11 pm

          Damn straight Glos and i think Poch has more than any epl era spurs boss

          • gloster1861 April 23, 2018 at 6:13 pm

            1000 times zero = zero

            Unfortunately, I think Levy cares not a fig for anyone who is cheeky enough to ask for a little more.

            • caveman April 23, 2018 at 6:31 pm

              Except himself £6m !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • gloster1861 April 23, 2018 at 6:09 pm

      Perhaps FoF was referring to the spreadsheet improving. That’s the REAL project.

      • caveman April 23, 2018 at 6:32 pm

        Spot on.

  • gloster1861 April 23, 2018 at 5:41 pm

    Poch may be correct about only the PL or CL taking us up to the next level.

    But what he has perhaps left out of his calculations is that lamely surrendering a semi final to a rival who evidently cares, might well take us DOWN a level.

    Anyhow, if we win the CL I assume we’d reached the floor of the penthouse suite anyway, so I fail to see how winning the damn thing builds towards winning the damn thing? Seems mighty odd to suggest nothing else is worth a toss.

    A winning mentality doesn’t throw away games in my book.

  • Say What? April 23, 2018 at 5:41 pm

    You are a funny bar-steward, Harry!
    And ‘spoked to the Evening Standard’ was the cherry on the icing on the cunning-linguist blancmange. Kudos

    • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 5:52 pm

      Cycling gag.

      #TourDeWhotsit

  • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    Do we have a better team than Pool?

    Or is our system worse?

    I lthink if we switched managers ee would do better than them

    Dont get excited we are not getting Klopp

    • gloster1861 April 23, 2018 at 5:44 pm

      Neither RW. I’d suggest someone could build a league winning side out of the best of the two sides. How many from each would make the first XI would be an argument but I’d say Eriksen, Kane and Vertonghen are in there.

      • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 5:57 pm

        After the last game it looks not as good
        You would put Dembele in
        But on most occasions you probably would have
        Dele is good enough too

        In any case Klopp eould make ys play better than Poch
        Klopp instills positive passion
        Poch system system system

        Liverpool play relaxed more

        • gloster1861 April 23, 2018 at 6:07 pm

          Well, Poch seems to be on the edge on the moment.

          Nervy, so nervy. 😰

          • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 6:09 pm

            He has to win. He needs it

            Klopp WANTS it

            • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 8:57 pm

              He gets the budget he WANTS.

    • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 6:04 pm

      Klopp better manager as in he’s won things and has been in the management game nearly twice as long. True

      • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 6:08 pm

        Ok

        But Poch is seasoned
        Even he thinks he cant do anything wrong

        I think Klopp would day yes he does a lot of things wrong…ok I admit its with a wry smile

        • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 6:12 pm

          I reckon poch would beat klopp in chess

          • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 6:22 pm

            Im not so sure
            He would fuck up with the high line…

  • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    Why cant we do the obvious and keep our best players? Shift the shit Then just add 3 top top quality (ready) players and a couple good good prospects? Is that too much to ask? Fucksake

    • paul April 23, 2018 at 5:34 pm

      Because we refuse to pay the going rate?
      Because they want to win stuff?
      Because they are tired with Jam tomorrow?
      Because we bought Sissoko and Aurier as a statement of intent?
      Just saying..

      • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 5:50 pm

        Said!

  • paul April 23, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    Ok so here’s another one.. Apart from being obsessed with us ‘competing’ the other pet Poch is that he bangs on about ‘the project’ and that said project needs more time but this clearly is predicated on this group of players staying put, being developed and being added to by players of an equal or better skill set/ability, either bought and trained or developed from the academy. But absolutely none of this has come to pass! We will finish lower than last season, we sold the epl’s best right back and replaced him with a muppet and there’s been ZERO input from the academy. And now we are set to sell Europes best CB. So how have we evolved or got better? The answer clearly is that we have not.

    Oh and the other thing that occurs to me is that Poch’s whole schtick seems to have been entirely based upon all the other teams around us not improving, it’s as if he is genuinely in shock that shitty turned up this season and slaughtered all before them and look very much like they will do the same next season. And then there’s Pooh and what will be a resurgent manure!

    Personally i think he’s fucking lost, ‘the project’ has been overtaken by events and he doesn’t know what to do other than bury his head in the sand.

    Honestly, does anyone on here think that even if we retain everyone we have now (and we won’t) that we have any realistic chance of finishing above Shitty, Manure or even Pooh next season?

    • Freund or Foe April 23, 2018 at 5:21 pm

      Yes.

      • paul April 23, 2018 at 5:23 pm

        You’re off your head, never going to happen, not unless we retain all our best players AND get an influx of serious quality in the multiple areas required, even then it’s doubtful.

        • Freund or Foe April 23, 2018 at 5:27 pm

          Thanks Paul.

          • paul April 23, 2018 at 5:28 pm

            i’m here all week ;’)

            • Freund or Foe April 23, 2018 at 5:29 pm

              Great news. Any idea when you’ll change the record?

              • paul April 23, 2018 at 5:32 pm

                From what to what? Do feel free to outline how everything Poch espouses stacks up or has been on show this season. Perhaps you think we’re in great shape and the prospects for next season are all peachy?

                • Freund or Foe April 23, 2018 at 5:34 pm

                  Perhaps.

                  • paul April 23, 2018 at 5:37 pm

                    I suppose up there on the (faux) moral high ground pseudo enigmatic one word answers are the order of the day but when you’re ready to step down and then up with a detailed rebuttal let me know

                    • Freund or Foe April 23, 2018 at 5:39 pm

                      No problem, I’ll get back to you on that at some point.

                    • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 5:42 pm

                      One of my favourite lines.

                      ‘I’ll 100% get back to you’

                      Not a hint that it will via my will reading…

                    • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 5:41 pm

                      *shots fired*

                    • Freund or Foe April 23, 2018 at 5:52 pm

                      I’m still trying to work out “pseudo enigmatic”. It may take a while, it’s a nightmare trying to google with flippers.

        • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 5:27 pm

          Serious quality = Isco, Kovacic and Griezmann to name but 3 plus others out of our reach!!

  • Camus April 23, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    If Poch has any balls this season, he goes hunting the Scousers for 3rd place.
    And Kane bangs a few more goals in.
    He’s getting trolled by Simon Fucking Mignolet…!!

  • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 4:39 pm

    For Poch the competition we are in is the mos t important not the one we are out of.
    Poch rarely enlightens us with his wisdom….so we never know where he is coming from

    • paul April 23, 2018 at 4:45 pm

      Especially as he bangs on about competing but sells the epl’s best right back to an epl competitor, replaces him with a giant dong and freezes out Europes best CB at business end of season, how is that competing Ron?

      • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 4:46 pm

        +1

  • paul April 23, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    East Stand April 23, 2018 at 4:29 pm
    I appreciate your optimism but NOBODY can change the way Levy and ENIC want to run the club. Not even our best manager for a generation.

    They’d reluctantly rather see him walk and spin it to the fans that he was poached or wanted out rather than change.

    I am 100% certain about that…

    <<<>>>

    I’m not so sure Easty, i think he has more leverage than any other manager we’ve had in the epl era. There’s wiggle room, perhaps for all the wrong reasons (none of them footballing) but i see it. They’ve watched the revenue go up due to our participation in CL (amongst other things), shirt sales up, more TV appearances and so on. They’re interested in building a brand that can be milked (and ultimately sold), and Poch has shown them how consistently high placed finishing, CL etc can add hugely to that – quicker than they had planned for but all the same. They don’t want to be going into the shiny new place with a shite manager, no HK or Dele and finishing 7th. Poch has leverage, he just needs to use it.

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 23, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    The other utter contradictory nonsensical blurb Poch stands behind is winning CL and PL is the main focus. If you can’t get through an F.A. Cup semi final, how on Gods green earth are you going to win the 2 “life changers”?? Wacky

    • paul April 23, 2018 at 4:42 pm

      WACK WACK OOPS!

  • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 4:12 pm

    I prefer Klopp to Poch

    While I think Klopp is more confident or maybe has a lot of peace with himself…I think Poch tears his own hair out trying to prove himself.

    I also think that the Liverpool owners are much more committed to winning than we are.

    Poch thinks we need 4 more years.
    Klopp doesnt say such a thing he is comfotable with whats happening… I think even if he went out of the CL and came third in the league he would be happy.

    • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 4:15 pm

      Klopp gets players on the going rate at Liverpool Ron.

      Sane never came because of the wage issue for example. With Sane and Salah perhaps you might prefer Poch?

      • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 4:30 pm

        I like Klopps attitude.Poch seems tense a lot.
        They both want to see their teams win and I think we have a better team. Livetpools football to me seems more flowing

        • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 8:58 pm

          They can’t defend for shit.

    • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 4:34 pm

      Hang on they got lucky with Salah, have 2 better full backs than ours and tightened up their defence by spending £74m on a Defender.

      • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 4:36 pm

        So what?

        • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 4:37 pm

          On paper IMO they are the most likely challengers to Citeh next season.

          • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 4:39 pm

            and don’t rule out them wining the CL trophy this season!

            • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 4:40 pm

              and we have the better team?

              • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 5:38 pm

                We dont flow as much

  • ronwol96061 April 23, 2018 at 3:58 pm

    Camus
    Mid-table is below 6th.
    The PL is a top 6 of rich teams, a mid-table of 4 has-beens and a 10-team relegation dog-fight.

    Thats right
    The rich ate getting richer
    Viva la revolucion!!!!!

  • paul April 23, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    Poch is obsessed with ‘competing’ and with us being able to ‘compete’, yet in his tenure here the academy has produced absolutely nobody of any note. He signed up to selling arguably the epl’s best right back to an epl competitor and replaced him with an inferior player who is unsuited to and incapable of playing the same role. He has frozen out one of Europes best CB’s at a crucial point in the season and is clearly hell bent on selling him, so how do any of these examples make us more competitive?

  • Lilywhite April 23, 2018 at 3:45 pm

    “When your football manager goes public with your club not being fussed about a competition, this isn’t reverse psychology, it’s sabotage.”

    My thoughts exactly. It appears Poch has exposed himself as more than one who rationalizes his own failures. Rather, he’s sabotaging the team and the club w his agenda and stupidity. Now he comments on playing the kids next year in the cup!? Is this some sort of bizarre competition to say the exact opposite thing he should and dig the deepest hole for himself as fast as possible?

    • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 4:30 pm

      Yeah but we are stuck with this shit, under ENIC it’s the best you’re gonna get I’m afraid.

  • paul April 23, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    It’s Monday afternoon and i don’t feel any less angry. Poch you cnut you’ve got a lot of stuff right but ALL the big stuff wrong and this one was the clincher. You’r eon 5.5m a season ffs. Grow a pair and apologise to the fans, that and leverage your continuance with Levy for some proper players early doors this Summer or pack your bags.

    • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 3:34 pm

      And we end up with Levy and no Poch. Great idea, 7th place here we come…

      • paul April 23, 2018 at 3:38 pm

        You presume Levy will want to go into the shiny new place without Poch and players. Also that people like Simeone wouldn’t come to us and a whole heap of other possibilities. I’m just sick of being lied to by Poch, like about Toby and i don’t want a manager that laughs off the FA cup as being a bit shit

        • Sexy Beast April 23, 2018 at 4:03 pm

          Well sorry to have to tell you Paul but it is, yesterday’s game had 73k if the FA Cup was so great why all the empty seats?
          Don’t get me wrong I was there jumping up and down when we scored but it is what it is, a second rate competition with most teams playing second string until the last couple of rounds.
          Pooch is clearly still learning on the job and has made a huge gaff before and after in his pressers but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water!

          • paul April 23, 2018 at 4:13 pm

            SB you’re of course entitled to your opinion but for me it’s still the greatest domestic cup competition in the world and we had a real chance of winning it. Our manager disrespected it and the fans at the same time as making a huge booby with ramifications beyond his ken. He should hold his hands up and apologise.

        • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 4:06 pm

          My take on it is that we have been lied to by ENIC for 17 years and unless they fuck off nothing will change.

          They have mastered the art of pretending to be interested in winning stuff in order to keep us mugs interested and turning up.

          This is regardless of whoever has been manager or ‘Director Of Football’. They are business men, this is fair enough but we are fans of a football club and not a real estate company.

          17 years, we are bored and every unfortunate soul who has agreed to work under Levy gets the blame for failure.

          When the owners are only prepared to spend the equivalent of 7th place in the league, for a manger to see you into 4th also with no home ground, the owners are lucky cunts.

          Levy and ENIC are still free able to peddle their endless bullshit BECAUSE of Poch.

          He’ll be yet another fall guy eventually, just like the countless other managers before him…

        • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 4:13 pm

          Simeone and other possibilities will want the going rate and aquire players that will want the same.

          Sure Poch is part of the dysfunction but apart from walking out there’s nothing he can do.

          Anyone who thinks he’ll be able to ‘stand up to ENIC’ or alter Levy’s business plans are deluded fools.

          Levy is prepared to let transfer deals fail over relatively small money and does not pay the going rate. He lets Walker and Toby walk out because they also want the going rate.

          This is a great club being run like a fucking winkle stall…

          • paul April 23, 2018 at 4:18 pm

            Easty we’re on the same page re ENIC but Poch i think is very different to most other managers and if anyone can get Levy to change (or at least mildly modify) his usual MO then its Poch. HE just needs to stand up.

            ps. Simeone would have more to work with at Spurs than he does at the moment and he offers some real talent.

            pps. I honestly don’t think Daniel will allow us to go into the shiny new on such a downer, he’s personally attached to it

            • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 4:29 pm

              I appreciate your optimism but NOBODY can change the way Levy and ENIC want to run the club. Not even our best manager for a generation.

              They’d reluctantly rather see him walk and spin it to the fans that he was poached or wanted out rather than change.

              I am 100% certain about that…

  • SpurAndy 🍒π April 23, 2018 at 2:54 pm

    The day the players need to be reminded by the manager in any match let alone a semi final that they need to win is the day we need to close down the league. Does any player worth his salt ever consider not trying their best because the manager didn’t say ‘it’s a matter of my life and your death’. Just cos Poch didn’t say this is the most important match of my and your lives and your kids, wives, pets etc isn’t a reason to lose sight of the fact that it was the players responsibility to not bottle it. The fact that Spursy exists as a word is shirley enough to get their full attention for 90 minutes.

    • Nick April 23, 2018 at 3:11 pm

      Exactly.I was a player of little ability & less technical knowledge but I gave my all in every two bob game I played in & had to pay for the privilege.

    • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 3:59 pm

      Noble words Andy but the modern player is like a highly strung racehorse.

      When Shankly uttered your immortal words, he was talking about men who were grafters.

      Your average footballer wouldn’t hold down a job in the tills at Asda.

      Poch is fuckjob and he knows he is.

      Poor little chicken, everyone being nasty to him.

      You do not deride a competition the eve before you participate. No excuses.

      Worst part is, he is surrounded by ‘Yes Men’ and the fucker will not learn.

      THFC are bigger than all these dreadful little men and when they are gone it will be like chains lifted.

      I am not afraid of change. You could drop me in Beirut and I’d get on fine.

      We have too many fans who scared of their own shadows, abused wives making excuses.

      ‘Spurs fucked up, I’m so clumsy…. I hope ENIC don’t leave. Where would me and the kids go? Sorry about what I said earlier Mauricio. Please don’t go…I don;t mind the occasional black eye. Don’t leave’

      Fuck them all and bring on the next stooges.

      I demand to be entertained.

  • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 2:43 pm

    • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:46 pm

      He already got a great name,all those pubs can’t be wrong

  • BARD09 April 23, 2018 at 2:28 pm

    Levy needs to fuck off and take his underperforming chimpanzee with him.

    THIS

    • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:37 pm

      Levy is the monkey,can monkeys own monkeys?
      THAT

  • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 2:24 pm

    I think there is a lot on the line for Levy and Joe and they could change.Its possible. Odds are not great I know.
    If Poch left what would they have? Who could they attract. What players will leave and who could be get?

    On the other hand what would they have to spend to keep Poch and the core?

    What makes most sense?

    • Horndog 🇺🇸 April 23, 2018 at 2:27 pm

      What makes the most sense is for them to sell the club to someone who wants success a FOOTBALL club.

      • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 2:29 pm

        They will be happy with That HD. Next…

      • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:42 pm

        Who will buy it ? I’m sure if you find someone,joe & Daniel will bung you a couple of quid commission

        • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:48 pm

          Will $19.95 be enough!!

          • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:49 pm

            At the last count Joe wanted £3bn!

            • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:50 pm

              Unless I am mistaken Mark Zukerberg reportedly offered £850M.

              • Nick April 23, 2018 at 3:09 pm

                That was just for all the fans personal information,he was looking to double his investment

    • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:29 pm

      The time to put up or shut up is now Ron isn’t it,you can’t charge the highest season ticket prices in the league & say we don’t have the cash to keep the players we already own.I personally would accept no new faces if the board kept the players we have already,but not at any cost,as I’ve already stated I don’t believe they should have parity with successful teams players

      • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 2:32 pm

        Its supply and demand Nick.
        The chips will fall where they fall
        They can only sell if fans think its value for what they want

        They will have to add up the positives and negatives and decide. But really people are sheep. And if others buy they want a piece of the action.

  • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    So the majority on here get their way,the manager goes.Who then ? We’ve already seen the likes of conte & mourinho moan that THEY don’t get enough money to spend.The last few managers linked with us before poch started came to the premier league & failed,the 3 Flying Dutchmen.So Who & how will he achieve more with the same constraints?

    • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm

      Nick I have to leave but who wants the manager to leave. I think most here think that we cant do better under the circumstances.Me included.

      • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:23 pm

        It’s the fickle knee jerk reaction that gets me Ron.I personally have never experienced a better time to be a spurs fan.No we haven’t won anything & cups shut up opposing fans but the media are scared that we may just achieve something without their say so or constant backing,all the arsenal & Chelsea fans I’ve taken crap from forever are getting quieter month by month & we are/were building something & not just the stadium.players come & go so let them earn their money elsewhere but if there is a philosophy in place individuals shouldn’t alter the route to where we want to be

        • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 2:27 pm

          They have had a philosophy of for many many years and they havent changed because they had no need to. They have made their business a success.
          To change the paradigm something would have to give. Poch is a start….Fans are another….and what they have this amazing stadium and nothing to put into it….
          So they could. I have no idea what will happen though.

    • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm

      1. There is no better patsy than Poch
      2. There will never be any more money
      3. We’e doomed
      4. Flat Earthers are enjoying the ride
      5. Anyone yelling ‘Tottenham Til I die!’ obviously missed the funeral when The Lane was bulldozed.

    • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:19 pm

      Sean Dyche

      • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:20 pm

        *Reply to Nick
        and Chris Hughton?

        • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:25 pm

          Dyche is just a young Sam Allardyce & we’ve seen what Chris Houghton can do or rather can’t do.Do you think you’d get stylish attractive football & achieve anything with either of those? Seriously???

          • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:29 pm

            Max Allegri is a winner but he wont be joining.

            • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:29 pm

              Dyceh has worked wonders for Burnley.

              • Camus April 23, 2018 at 2:33 pm

                I watched with envy as he drew 1-1 with Championship-bound Stoke.

                • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:35 pm

                  I still rate him but I then I rated Pulis!

                  • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:39 pm

                    😂🤣😂
                    As the doorman enters “sir I think it’s time to leave”

                • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 2:36 pm

                  Yeah, he’s a genius.

                  • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:40 pm

                    Bloody auto correct I’m sure you meant penis

              • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:35 pm

                & he will slowly fail in his next few seasons.They all do,the managers that play a certain way,solid,defensive,set piece,second ball football.As soon as they try to become expansive,more possession footballing teams it falls apart.they get the best out of solid players but can’t integrate flair or persona.

                • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:40 pm

                  Until Dyche is given the chance who knows. What I do know is that he is passionate on the touchline, organizes his team well, suffered injuries to some key players and deserves a chance to manage a big club.

                  • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 2:41 pm

                    Plus tactically astute.

  • Camus April 23, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    All this talk of “Well, we really need to have a spend-up this summer or …….”

    Chaps, there will be no spend-up.
    There never is.
    We spend what we make via player sales. That’s it.
    You’re talking to the fairies with this kind of chat.

    • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:53 pm

      Pretty much.

    • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:54 pm

      How could it change? Thats what I ask myself.I only have questions no answers. Just ideas nothing conclusive. Who does? Of course it will stay the same way until there is some pressure to change it.

      • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:57 pm

        There are only three things that can create pressure

        The fans leave in droves

        Poch gives an ultimatum

        A new buyer wants to buy it and has the resources to make us one of the top 6 clubs in the world

        • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 2:03 pm

          Its possible Raz has a plan

        • Camus April 23, 2018 at 2:03 pm

          a) Won’t happen unless we go back to mid-table
          b) Poch is dispensable for Enic
          c) Daniel is the boy who always wants more – what’s the current valuation?
          £3billion, or is it £4billion now?

          • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 2:10 pm

            Yes and we could go back to mid table if this carries on with Poch or without Poch
            Its limited the way it is.

            If you go to a discount shop and buy a shirt and got a great deal.I mean really a great shirt at a ridiculous price too it could be the worst thing in the world. You have set yourself up to be on the prowl for such an item your whole life.

            • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 2:19 pm

              Ron, please.

              We would only go mid table if Sherwood came back.

              • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 2:20 pm

                Players could leave,Poch could leave and what..of course we could go back to mid table

                • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 2:35 pm

                  No, too much money sloshing about.

                • Camus April 23, 2018 at 2:36 pm

                  Mid-table is below 6th.
                  The PL is a top 6 of rich teams, a mid-table of 4 has-beens and a 10-team relegation dog-fight.

        • Nick April 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm

          Fans never leave,Poch will get fucked or fucked off,there is no new owner,ever not at the price Lewis wants,unless amazon,google or Apple find a way to use us as a tax avoidance scheme

  • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    Sexy Beast

    Ronwol196061
    Harry if we were in for a player and Chelsea or CIty also wanted him even if Levy would pay more ,do you think we would have any hope in buying them?
    So the possibility is either that or Levy overnight hears from Joe that they indeed want to compete at the same level…are they going to in one swoop pay double (at least the wages they are paying) and triple the transfer fees?
    and the option?
    Someone buys the club who IS going to compete. If you can can find someone or a corp Im sure you could make a fantastic finders fee
    Whats the odds…

    When was the last time we were in for a player they were also after apart from Willian?
    We tend to shop at Waitrose while they shop at Harrods…..

    I shop at Waitrose. I have never seen any time expired French guano on the shelves.

    • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 1:42 pm

      Levy shops at Primark…

      • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:43 pm

        So what I do too

        • AntSpurs April 23, 2018 at 1:54 pm

          So that explains Primarks increased profit shares.

          • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:58 pm

            I bought one share,one pair of underpants and may buy another share but dont need another pair of underpants

  • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 1:40 pm

    This sums Spurs up.

    “Michel Vorm: “I’m 100% sure our time will come”

    Mate, just fuck off. You’re 35.

    • Camus April 23, 2018 at 1:47 pm

      Just meaningless PR bobbins.
      He’s going to Feyenoord in the summer anyway.

  • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    Ronwol196061

    Harry if we were in for a player and Chelsea or CIty also wanted him even if Levy would pay more ,do you think we would have any hope in buying them?

    So the possibility is either that or Levy overnight hears from Joe that they indeed want to compete at the same level…are they going to in one swoop pay double (at least the wages they are paying) and triple the transfer fees?

    and the option?

    Someone buys the club who IS going to compete. If you can can find someone or a corp Im sure you could make a fantastic finders fee

    Whats the odds…

    Ron, you won’t like this reply, because it goes against you innate fear Joe Lewis is going to die in the poorhouse.

    We HAVE a billionaire.

    If it’s too late. FFP means he couldn’t help us even if he wanted to.

    Never mind eh?

    • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:40 pm

      I agree with that. But really what are the different scenerios here.Realistic scenerios.

      • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 1:42 pm

        We’re stuck with a cheap bastard chairman and a patsy of a manager.

        That is the full gamut of scenarios.

        Joe dies rich and we die every season.

        Daniel never dies because he’s a fucking robot.

        • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:46 pm

          I cant disagree with that. Really.
          But Im not giving up hope. I dont want to get as cynical as you Harry its not good for the health but I understand where you are at. Id prefer just to Mothy Python it like Dembele and his silly walk on Saturday or Tottenham its dead..no its not its merely expired…or how about .Always stay on the Bright Side of Life…

      • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 1:48 pm

        So Ron, you’re saying the realistic scenario is that our billionaire owner will not put his money in but others will?

        I would like to say I’ve been enlightened by that mate but all I am left is wanting new fucking owners.

        Then and only then is there any hope of the realistic scenario being different from the current realistic scenario we find ourselves with…

        • East Stand April 23, 2018 at 1:50 pm

          Which is not laced with any real ambition whatsoever.

        • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:52 pm

          I didnt say that

  • Sexy Beast April 23, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    Ronwol196061
    Harry if we were in for a player and Chelsea or CIty also wanted him even if Levy would pay more ,do you think we would have any hope in buying them?
    So the possibility is either that or Levy overnight hears from Joe that they indeed want to compete at the same level…are they going to in one swoop pay double (at least the wages they are paying) and triple the transfer fees?
    and the option?
    Someone buys the club who IS going to compete. If you can can find someone or a corp Im sure you could make a fantastic finders fee
    Whats the odds…

    When was the last time we were in for a player they were also after apart from Willian?
    We tend to shop at Waitrose while they shop at Harrods…..

    • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:35 pm

      There have been many players we have been linked to that they have bought but its not a question of that. The conversation wasnt to do with that though

  • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    Harry Hotspur
    The only thing missing from the list is common sense.
    ‘I’m sorry sir, but your Premium Elite ticket is gold and not platinum, so I will have to ask you to leave the Cheese Room. Don’t forget your Premium Elite flag, and thank you for your support.’

    I do hate this sort of shit. The bullshit of status. It attracts the wrong types for footie. It was something that I hated when I lived in the UK. But it is so much of the culture in Britain especially London. As far as Perception is reality,maybe it is but it doesnt work on the footie field

    • Camus April 23, 2018 at 1:30 pm

      Posh boys and tourists don’t sing…

      • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:32 pm

        what about wannabe’s are they going down to cheezville to pretend to know what Brie is

  • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Fair enough. I expect he avoided the blog after Cluj drew for that very reason.

    • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:19 pm

      Oops, reply to Ron.

    • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:20 pm

      Cluj?

    • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:23 pm

      You mean it was the last game in the Acca and it didnt go in?

      • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:24 pm

        Correct.

        • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 1:35 pm

          So another phoney bet.

          Why does he fucking bother?

          • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:41 pm

            I dont think its about the betting itself is it MS?

            • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:50 pm

              I couldn’t tell you why he insists on bragging about his successes. Funny how the one time he posts a bet with an outcome yet to be decided, it loses.

              • DAVID April 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm

                Too busy counting his winnings to post on here.

              • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 2:06 pm

                As you know well MS who wins in the end. The problem is ego gets the best of a lot of people eventually
                Im sure there are some type of gambling where people have an ability to win and come out ahead over a long period of time but the odds are very low and its a very minute group of people at that..and they shouldnt spend their winnings just yet

              • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 2:21 pm

                I’ve asked him innumerable times to post betting slips.

                1. ‘Only if you give £50 to Gt Ormond St’
                2. He allegedly posts a slip onto gravatar so no fucker can read it.

  • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Even Redknapp was better than adjusting his side mid game

    Poch is looking to create an uber team. But when things go wrong they all have no idea what to do because the robots are all programmed one way

    • Camus April 23, 2018 at 1:26 pm

      Steady on.
      Redknapp didn’t have ‘any’ tactics.

      • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:38 pm

        I dont agree. He has tactics even if it was through a feeling for the game. It wasnt set in stone which is what Pochs is.
        Im not saying I prefer Redknapp but he did bring a flow to the game(or not)
        I like the way Liverpool play the game by the way…its much more enjoyable to watch

  • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Royalists. Its a boy.

    • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 1:18 pm

      Sign him up!

    • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 1:19 pm

      Villa have another fan.

      • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 1:19 pm

        Why Villa?

        • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:20 pm

          Duke of Cambridge is a Villa fan.

          • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 1:53 pm

            Ta

          • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 2:06 pm

            Report him to social services.

    • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:19 pm

      Don’t care.

  • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:12 pm

    Poch is not the right man for Real Madrid.He will turn them into Atletico.

    He is an engineer that lacks nous.

    • Camus April 23, 2018 at 1:13 pm

      I can’t see him handling big egos.
      He’s avoided them so far.

    • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 1:13 pm

      Whats the survival span of a RM manager?

      • Camus April 23, 2018 at 1:14 pm

        1-2 seasons.

        • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:14 pm

          Poch needs a 15 year plan and a pension!

      • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 1:15 pm

        Expected to win every La Liga match including beat Barcelona for starters!

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 23, 2018 at 1:08 pm

    We’ve really invited the wolves in. The press don’t need encouraging when it comes to unsettling us. All this fallout is going to be maximised, top 4 run in suddenly tense as tense can be. The semifinal seems to have been infinately more important than Poch believed. Irony being the non life changing line when its now looking seismic for him.

    • Camus April 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm

      We’ve not only invited them in, we’ve obligingly tucked a napkin under their chins and poured them a nice glass of Chateauneuf du Pape while they await dinner.

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? April 23, 2018 at 1:14 pm

        Tuck in…

  • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:08 pm

    Out of curiosity, did my comments about R A Z ‘s acca losing yesterday go into moderation, or was it deemed unseemly of me to chuckle at a bloke championing his bet, which would ultimately be a loser?

    • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:14 pm

      I think its just the moderation..I wrote something on the wrong blog this a.m. amd it went to moderation

    • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 1:35 pm

      Never saw them mate.

      Just seen your update, tho. What a tit he is.

      • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:47 pm

        It was ultimately the highlight of a shit weekend. 😂

    • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 1:05 pm

      This article wrote itself to be fair, after Poch’s post match comments. Perhaps he also thinks Levy is taking the piss, giving himself a £3.5m pay rise for among other things selecting some textured rose gold panelling for a posh cunt bar in the New Stadium, and yet doesn’t push the boat out to sign players Poch wants?

      • Camus April 23, 2018 at 1:08 pm

        Yeah, I’d agree.
        Could he win trophies with his system at a club with better players in all positions and a pretty much unlimited budget?
        Probably, yes.

    • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 1:06 pm

      If Poch thinks us fans are fickle RM fans are very demanding!

      • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 1:07 pm

        Word of advice: reject the offer!

    • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:09 pm

      I know the system is be end of all but not for me its not.

    • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 1:09 pm

      They can have him for zidane and isco.

  • Camus April 23, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    Poch has some work to do.
    He needs to shore up Top 4 pronto.
    He cannot blame the FA Cup, the media or the fans if he blows it.
    He rested players, and dropped Toby, for a semi-final that he didn’t know how to win.
    He can’t claim the FA Cup didn’t mean that much anyway if he blows Top 4.
    Can’t have it both ways.

    Players have a week off until Watford (loving the Monday night in the run-in again there, thanks Sky…)

    That’s a week to grow up, dust off and re-focus properly.
    Or the knives really will be out.

    • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 12:56 pm

      Watford will be sharpening their own knives…

      • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 1:01 pm

        Withh nothing to play for apart from pride I am sure they will be obliging opponents!

  • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    Harry Hotspur
    From a poster on Spurs Community
    Without wishing to bang on about the money side of things…it can’t be ignored.
    The realism surely has to be that those who can afford more regarding wages and signings tend to win the Prem league or FA cup more often than not. Coincidence…I think not.
    FA Cup wins since 1996…
    CHELSEA. 6
    ARSENAL. 6
    MAN UTD. 4
    LIVERPOOL 2
    MAN CITY. 1
    WIGAN. 1
    PORTSMOUTH. 1
    It’s clear to see that the teams that tend to spend more on wages and signings than us feature the most.
    We can argue that City have only won it once in this period, but that’s easily countered by the fact they’ve won the league 3 times in the past Seven seasons.
    In fact, I can only add Everton to the above list as an alternative to the usual suspects since we last won the FA cup in 1991. Yes, Wigan and Portsmouth won it once also, but plain to see usual suspects far outweigh these one off wins.
    Right…the Premier league since Premier league started.
    Winners…
    MAN UTD. 13
    CHELSEA. 5
    MAN CITY. 3
    ARSENAL. 3
    BLACKBURN. 1
    LEICESTER. 1
    Again, clear to see that apart from the odd rare occasion the usual suspects feature greatly.
    So whilst the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal may not spend like the Manchester clubs and Chelsea on player transfers, they have and do often snaffle top talents through the lure of better wages than we can afford to offer.
    We are doing well against these teams, and hopefully we’ll pick up a trophy here and there, it happens.
    But the realistic perspective surely has to be, that until we can reach something resembling, a somewhat more equal financial playing field, the usual suspects will always be lurking in the fore.
    Sorry, but at present in football, money really does usually win out.

    I agree but if we spent more,they would spend even more.
    That is no excuse for Levy not buying better players,but really as we know he is a glorified accountant and the only one that can make a stand is Poch and Poch instead of whining could put the bandana on his head go to see Levy and deal with him like a man and tell he what he must have and if he doesnt get it fuck off.It shuld work because it will cost Levy a lot more to start again

    • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 12:46 pm

      I agree but if we spent more,they would spend even more.

      Ronglidth at it’s finest.

      It’s about running Spurs as football club. Not a competition to see who can spend the most.

      Levy needs to fuck off and take his underperforming chimpanzee with him.

      • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:05 pm

        Harry if we were in for a player and Chelsea or CIty also wanted him even if Levy would pay more ,do you think we would have any hope in buying them?

        So the possibility is either that or Levy overnight hears from Joe that they indeed want to compete at the same level…are they going to in one swoop pay double (at least the wages they are paying) and triple the transfer fees?

        and the option?

        Someone buys the club who IS going to compete. If you can can find someone or a corp Im sure you could make a fantastic finders fee

        Whats the odds…

  • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    I think Dembele undone all the good he has done for us in one swoop in this one ,thinking he is better than he is.
    He took reckless chances in this one instead of keeping a cool head.
    We needed to upgrade him anyway,although it is very difficult to do so as strong and ball playing CM’s are rare and expensive.
    Its easier finding DM’s who can be tough and tackle.

    Yes upgrading the backs is important but not as much as engine room players. Dembele at his best is great but even that cant take us to the next level. He lacks making an a direct impact on the opposition goal by directly creating goals,and he doesnt shoot either.

    We should definately have played 5 at the back in the last one. Sanchez started off great that way with the support of Toby and Jan,but is much too nervous by himself. he might make it but he has to grow up and take responsibility and show a much surer footing than he has.

    • Accy April 23, 2018 at 12:48 pm

      For me, Dembele was tripped. It’s one thing going shoulder to shoulder and winning the ball, and another to trip a bloke off his feet.

      @1’59”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s76S7tRPeB4

      • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 12:50 pm

        Blimey, take the rose tinted specs off! There’s no trip there.

        • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 12:52 pm

          +1.
          He was mugged!

        • Accy April 23, 2018 at 12:54 pm

          refs have blown for much less.

          • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 12:55 pm

            IMO Dembele fairly lost possession and we woz punished!

          • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 12:56 pm

            So shit calls in other games form some kind of basis to make a shit call here? He lost the ball, Pogba eased him off it. He was weak.

            • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 12:58 pm

              Weren’t Maure denied what seemingly appeared to be a legit penalty when Verts shoved Harrera in the back in the penalty which nothing was made much about at the time?

              • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 1:04 pm

                *area

      • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:07 pm

        Dembele made a complete balls up of it. Toby for instance would have casually kick it out,Dembele thought too much of himself that moment and tried to do something spectacular

        • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm

          Using the moment to sell himself. Well he fucked that one up.

          • JackDLad April 23, 2018 at 1:25 pm

            He turned back and faced his own goal, absolute novice move by Dembele, if you don’t view it as novice it was arrogant. He facked up. He was eased off the ball. Strength won it out. Dembele caught with his pants around his ankles.

      • caveman April 23, 2018 at 5:50 pm

        He was manhandled off the ball. The ref should have blown for a free kick.

  • caveman April 23, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    Poch’s behaviour and attitude has surely got to do with a ‘stand off’ with Levy and his jockeying for funds or he’s offski. He has suddenly become dour and negative. If he’s prepared to throw a cup semi-final, there’s something going on internally that he’s reacting to!

    • Ronwol196061 April 23, 2018 at 12:39 pm

      If Poch would have won the game nobody would have said a word including Poch.Infact Poch would have thought that we are nearly there. he believes more in his system than the players IMHO

  • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 12:15 pm

    Keep dembele forever! We only give £15 for him. He’s got more to give. Id extended it for another year then take it from there. We need someone good enough to keep him out the team. Not easy.

    • caveman April 23, 2018 at 12:18 pm

      He wants three years and won’t sign otherwise. Pay attention.

      • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 12:40 pm

        Really? So till 2021? he’ll be 33. Depending on the money (not being silly money) id give it to him. Definitely would.

        • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 12:41 pm

          Cant have a camp full of youts.

        • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 12:47 pm

          Levy won’t. For once I’ll say thankfully.

          • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 12:50 pm

            I wouldn’t expect levy too. He only knows the financial value of a player

  • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 12:12 pm

    From a poster on Spurs Community

    Without wishing to bang on about the money side of things…it can’t be ignored.

    The realism surely has to be that those who can afford more regarding wages and signings tend to win the Prem league or FA cup more often than not. Coincidence…I think not.

    FA Cup wins since 1996…

    CHELSEA. 6
    ARSENAL. 6
    MAN UTD. 4
    LIVERPOOL 2
    MAN CITY. 1
    WIGAN. 1
    PORTSMOUTH. 1

    It’s clear to see that the teams that tend to spend more on wages and signings than us feature the most.

    We can argue that City have only won it once in this period, but that’s easily countered by the fact they’ve won the league 3 times in the past Seven seasons.

    In fact, I can only add Everton to the above list as an alternative to the usual suspects since we last won the FA cup in 1991. Yes, Wigan and Portsmouth won it once also, but plain to see usual suspects far outweigh these one off wins.

    Right…the Premier league since Premier league started.

    Winners…

    MAN UTD. 13
    CHELSEA. 5
    MAN CITY. 3
    ARSENAL. 3
    BLACKBURN. 1
    LEICESTER. 1

    Again, clear to see that apart from the odd rare occasion the usual suspects feature greatly.

    So whilst the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal may not spend like the Manchester clubs and Chelsea on player transfers, they have and do often snaffle top talents through the lure of better wages than we can afford to offer.

    We are doing well against these teams, and hopefully we’ll pick up a trophy here and there, it happens.

    But the realistic perspective surely has to be, that until we can reach something resembling, a somewhat more equal financial playing field, the usual suspects will always be lurking in the fore.

    Sorry, but at present in football, money really does usually win out.

  • richspurs April 23, 2018 at 11:54 am

    Shocking. Seems like Kanes i.q. is the same as the number of goals he has scored this season.

  • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 11:50 am

    It boils down to perception.

    Nobody cares if you come into work or not, just so long as you sound sick on the phone.

    Poch is obviously happy mounting some stealth campaign which – inside his own head will then trigger a dynasty of success – but he cannot peddle this shit in public.

    In the public domain the message is ‘we are going to try our best’.

    This is why he currently has a sore arse.

    He needs to wake the flip up and get out of the Levy coma he’s lulled himself into.

    • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 11:57 am

      “Perception is all there is…” Tom Peters.

      Then again there is our perception.
      Poch’s perception.
      Levy’s perception.
      Press perception.
      Media perception.

      All different.

      Bugger’s muddle.

      • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 12:05 pm

        The only thing missing from the list is common sense.

        ‘I’m sorry sir, but your Premium Elite ticket is gold and not platinum, so I will have to ask you to leave the Cheese Room. Don’t forget your Premium Elite flag, and thank you for your support.’

  • Horndog 🇺🇸 April 23, 2018 at 11:48 am

    MysteriousStranger
    Dembélé should be sold whilst he still has some value and admirers. Eriksen has enough competition. We need a new keeper to replace Lloris (question is will he be sold?), another CB to replace Toby or Jan or both – who could blame them for wanting one last payday – the way Jan has played this season has been like a player in their “contract year” ahead of a lucrative payday elsewhere. They are getting on and so Levy will want to cash in on a couple of those aforementioned IMO. To make some money and justify his £6m salary – and bring in the next generation. Perhaps we’ll sell Rose, and keep one of the Belgian CBs for another year. There’s going to be player movement, that’s for sure.

    I believe you are spot on.

    • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 11:50 am

      Dropping your captain for an FA Cup Semi-Final.

      Nuff said.

      • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 11:54 am

        In fairness, all that did was highlight what a nonevent of a captain we have.

        More failed lip-service from Poch.

        • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 11:59 am

          And he stated it in the strongest possible terms. Publicly and without a word of explanation – that made sense.

    • chrism090861 April 23, 2018 at 12:02 pm

      For me, Dembele is the most frustrating. He floats past everyone is the space between the half way line and 20 yards onwards, then stops and plays the ball sideways or backwards. Go further, commit someone, go towards the penalty area, you may get fouled, get a free kick in a dangerous area, maybe even get a penalty.

      • David Dillenberg April 23, 2018 at 12:22 pm

        Shoot I say shoot I say shoot. Simply pull the trigger my son!

    • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 12:57 pm

      I believe you are being too kind, HD 😀

  • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 11:45 am

    Could Richard Branson afford my club? Richard put something together mate. Oh. You’re not a football man. No. I only buy what I love. Ok Richard mate.

    • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 11:51 am

      gonna call oprah winfrey. Oprah ever thought about buying a football club in London? Hello hello hellooooo. Hung up on me. Oprahs rude man 🙂

      • Tappaspur April 23, 2018 at 12:01 pm

        Ive got it. The blackanarti. Jay z. diddy. T woods. lewis ham. Dr drea. Snoop. 🙂 🙂 🙂

  • Accy April 23, 2018 at 11:38 am

    If Poch does do the offski in the next year or two, the next incumbent will likely make his first job giving hugo the elbow and the armband to someone capable.

    Every cloud.

    • chrism090861 April 23, 2018 at 11:44 am

      I think this should be done by Poch anyway. Give the armband to someone who can rally the players when things are not going their way. I would make Dier captain, and give him instructions to kick butt out there

  • VincentianMagic April 23, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Looking at the end of season; we simply have to finish in a CL place. Failure to do so will, IMO, see not only Toby and Rose depart, but will spell the end of Poch.

    Assuming we don’t complete a hat-trick of monumental f-ups, then the lure of playing for a CL club, together with the additional monies, has to be poured back (and then some) into the squad. And by this I mean, 3-4 genuinely top-drawer players.

    I understand we can’t spend £100M and wages of £200k a week, but there are better players out there that we can sign if we make a concerted effort.

    Before even this, I want to see a new contract for Toby – who along with Verts, is our best CB. There is simply no logic in letting one of the best defenders in Europe walk away. By all means let Llorente, N’Cluedo, Jansen and Rose leave, but not Toby.

    I am not going to speculate on the ‘who’ in terns of arrivals, but will reiterate that they need to be of the quality that can challenge for an immediate starting spot in the first team.

    A LB is a must and, if Aurier continues to act like a clown, so is a RB. Some competition for Dembele and also Eriksen needs to be sourced, as does a challenger for Kane.

    We have a billionaire owner, a shiny new 60,000+ seater stadium and probably the lure and monies of the CL. If we can’t/or won’t capitalise on this, then as far as I’m concerned ENIC can fu&& right off out of my club.

    Excuse the language 😉

    • caveman April 23, 2018 at 11:26 am

      What language!

      • VincentianMagic April 23, 2018 at 11:29 am

        True dat – I used worse on Saturday!

    • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 11:31 am

      Not finishing in the top 4 this season would probably cost us top 4 next season, too. And so on.

      Depressing isn’t the word.

      All because of a contract stand-off and a stubborn reluctance to play Toby in a formation that we know works.

      • VincentianMagic April 23, 2018 at 11:40 am

        Poch has been excellent for us; but more importantly excellent for Levy as he has given ENIC breathing space. Problem is that the fans have long suspected the game is up and that success is not necessarily considered a good thing as it requires greater expenditure.

        What is beginning to surface more and more is Poch’s stubbornest and double-standards as outlined by several other posters on here. Not playing Lloris and Toby was a ridiculous decision. Retaining Lloris as captain is also a strange move.

        The lack of defensive options (playing a back five) has been removed due to Toby being ‘unavailable’ and is costing us.

        Kane being rushed back at all costs despite the team coping in his absence is another panic move.

        But above all of this, I dislike the tone of our manager’s press talks; it’s all very defeatist. I understand that here is a project, that we can’t compete financially with City, and that winning the CL and PL is the overall aim.

        However, this should not mean that top players cannot be signed, and that winning a cup isn’t also incredibly important in our ‘project’. It belittles the club and the fans.

        • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 11:46 am

          “-success is not necessarily considered a good thing as it requires greater expenditure”.

          So true.

    • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 11:33 am

      Dembélé should be sold whilst he still has some value and admirers. Eriksen has enough competition. We need a new keeper to replace Lloris (question is will he be sold?), another CB to replace Toby or Jan or both – who could blame them for wanting one last payday – the way Jan has played this season has been like a player in their “contract year” ahead of a lucrative payday elsewhere. They are getting on and so Levy will want to cash in on a couple of those aforementioned IMO. To make some money and justify his £6m salary – and bring in the next generation. Perhaps we’ll sell Rose, and keep one of the Belgian CBs for another year. There’s going to be player movement, that’s for sure.

      • VincentianMagic April 23, 2018 at 11:47 am

        I think ENIC need to get the wallet out. I understand that we still have to be careful with how the monies are spent, so my priorities would be to spend big on a CM, AM and CF.

        LB could be filled by a ‘cheaper player’ such as Bertrand (for example), who is more than capable. Davies is decent and Walker-Peters should get more games next season.

        Keep Toby and the need for another CB is less pressing.

        RB is still an issue as Trippier is off his game and Aurier is madness personified. Again, KWP can play the odd game and definitely could become a regular in the next season or two. I would be tempted to try Foyth there also.

        The main emphasis has to be on quality in CM, AM and CF. Eriksen, Dembele and Kane can then be rested/rotated as necessary throughout the season.

        • Accy April 23, 2018 at 11:53 am

          For me, the wingback areas are an essential to upgrade. So much of our play breaks down on the wings, and a good number of goals occur through fault of Tripps, Aurier and Davies. Rose not back up to speed – apparently still struggling with injury.

          Get some offing decent fullbacks and we would be a different proposition next season.

          CM would be the icing on the cake. Modric wants to come back to us.

  • cyril April 23, 2018 at 11:04 am

    I think Poch is frustrated at the endless talk of the need to win something. I think he is right in his firmly held view that progression and year on year improvement are very important, indeed the most important. But I also feel that there is a bit of stubbornness here, a bit of a blind spot. I think he fails to recognize that a player would like to have a cabinet, albeit maybe a small cabinet, in which to keep the medals and other indicators of success once the career is over. He cannot be completely blind to this, he was a player and also Vertonghen came out and said it this week. He might be right that there is no real reason to believe that winning the FA cup will lead to a flood of trophies. BUT it will keep the fans happy and it will keep the players a bit happier and make it more likely they will stick around.
    I think the stubbornness is also shown by his reluctance to play the strongest team. Mourinho rested players to have his strongest team for this game. We played Vorm. Now I am not suggesting that cost us the game (although I do think Lloris is a much better shot stopper and might well have stopped the second and we do all remember Vorm getting us knocked out by Leicester a couple of years ago), but I am saying that the selection of Vorm shows a stubbornness and a refusal to give us the best chance. Vorm is paid £22,000 a week, Lloris is paid almost over 5 times that at £120,000. Now either Poch is unbelievably stupid in agreeing to pay Lloris that much or Poch really does believe Lloris is a much better player, in which case respect the fans and give them the best chance of going to a final.
    Poch should also keep in mind that winning something will prove to be most important to him. The presidents of various famous European giants will all hesitate to appoint someone who has not won anything as it will be the rod that is used to beat them by fans and rivals for the job of president alike. It will also reduce the time he is given at another club to succeed, at least a big European club and why would he leave to go to a mid-sized club? PSG would be the obvious place for him as he can win without trying and get the trophies while building a team and he was there as a player..
    Given the multiple levels of dross we have had running our club on the field, from the inept Gross and mullet headed Francis to the self-serving Sherwood to the clownish somewhat dodgy ‘arry I am of course delighted that he is our manager and hope he stays as such for many years. That does not mean there is not room for improvement and I just hope he is not churlish. The one area where I sympathise is Kane. It is crucial to keep him happy BUT he let him come back too soon as he is far from fit or sharp. Of course playing Kane makes a complete mockery of his stated reasons for not playing Toby, another slightly annoying fact. He first stated Toby was not fit and then asked why he should change the system for Toby, choosing to ignore the fact that the current system was forced on us by Toby’s absence and we wd simply need to revert to what Poch believed was the right system before Toby was injured.

    • cyril April 23, 2018 at 11:06 am

      over five times, almost six times

    • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 11:18 am

      Agree with all of that.

      But we also have to look at the non-playing side of things.

      Contracts & morale.

      Mixed messages and press mangement.

      Team selection is the key, though. He has to do better.
      Watford will be key. Play badly in that and we start a slide that will finish our season.

      Poch cannot be allowed to get away with being stubborn for no other reason than his arrogance. Perez and others must get to grips with this. And if Lloris is captain he must represent the players, including Toby, Verts, Kane and keep the senior players on board.

      • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 11:21 am

        Lloris is a shit captain though. He performs poorly during many a big match, so fails to tick boxes leading by example, fails to berate his players, can’t gee them up in the outfield. It’s nonsense that he should be captain.

        • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 11:23 am

          Agreed!

          In all respects. But he has to represent the team off-field to Poch.
          Surely there is a dialogue going on about team selection?

        • VincentianMagic April 23, 2018 at 11:26 am

          I agree that Lloris should not be captain. In recent games he shouldn’t even be guaranteed a starting spot due to poor form.

          IMHO Verts/Toby should be captain and vice-captain.

    • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 11:19 am

      Except Lloris hasn’t been in top form at all, and arguably merited being dropped anyway. His salary isn’t relevant.

      • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 11:20 am

        He is the so-called captain, though!

        • MysteriousStranger April 23, 2018 at 11:24 am

          Does he play like one? No. He can be “club captain” off the field. Have an outfield player as captain. We lost for many reasons on Saturday. Dembélé losing the ball, not tracking back being two. Lack of application and fight. You could see it in their faces. Shot ourselves in the foot and the belief evaporated.

          • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 11:26 am

            Yep!

  • Spurssince80 April 23, 2018 at 10:54 am

    Disagree to an extent.
    Last week in a different forum I posted a possible XI without Kane.
    The reason, he was being carried against City and Brighton. And he was carried on Saturday. I actually thought your article was going to be about how he was pulling your leg, because his performance was shocking. And it was.

    Where I do agree with you is this. Pochettino is an astute guy. If I can see Kane was carried he can, yet he played him. Loyalty to Vorm is admirable. But the second goal Hugo saves. When they hit a bad patch it was because they insisted on going down the middle and teams knew it and put up 2 banks of 4 or 5 and made it impossible to score. That United were doing that for the last half hour was also obvious. Why bring on Wanyama.

    Point being, it looked to me like and it has looked like this for a while, that he has too much faith in his squad to get the result. Real time game management rarely comes in to it. It cost the CL quarter final. Switch from Allegri, first goal 2 mins later, fine take the time of the kick off to reset, drop a holding mid back into the back 4 and cover off. But he did not react at all. I genuinely think he believes the players think as he does and it is clear they don’t. They do not have confidence in Aurier. They do not have confidence in Sissoko. When you need a goal a defensive mid substitute is not the answer. The result is some sort of crossing fingers and toes effort, that Eriksen in particular, or Lamela or Son or now Moura can skip past 4 players and score while Kane looks on from the penalty spot.

    I’ll leave you with this – Kane’s performances are not where they were before the ankle injury yet he is starting. Either one of 2 things is true – either one, he is just in a slump and maybe tired from the season or two, he is minding himself with a view to an out. I believe the former but for the first time ever, the latter is not just a 90min.com conspiracy. Similarly, Pochettino. He has always said he wants to go into the new stadium, they are building something special etc etc. I believe that. But out of the blue, he says “with me or another manager” not once but twice in 15 mins. Either he is sending a message to Levy or he is also contemplating an out. I believe both Kane and Pochettino want to stay but for the first time ever, after Saturday evening’s performance, the smoke without fire seems to have a bit more fuel to it all of a sudden.

    • chrism090861 April 23, 2018 at 11:06 am

      Agree with many of your points. I thought Kane looked like he was unfit, and he was struggling. We did OK without him when he was injured, so why not play Sonny up front and use Kane as a Sub.. Is it a case of ‘An unfit Kane is better than no Kane at all’??

  • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 10:46 am

    I wish they would stfu for another few days!

    • Harry Hotspur April 23, 2018 at 10:49 am

      I would flood the media channels with stuff that won’t upset anyone. Charity work, U9s summer coaching club, benign boring shit that gives the impression we’re still trading.

      • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 10:57 am

        Reading all the crap in the press and the slough of despair on the blog is making me wish for a suspension of communications from our lot until they sort out the messages.

        “Poch or another manager…”

        “New transfer shock…”

        “Toby is leaving…”

        FFS I’ve had enough. Sort out the press releases & contradict the rumours.

        If they don’t, the rumours will persist.

        Sowing discontent all the time is infuriating for fans. Demoralising and worrying for players.

        Sort it press officer!

  • Bruxie April 23, 2018 at 10:46 am

    1 again?