Date: 17th December 2017 at 8:44am
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We’ll attend to the aftermath of the Man City game in due course although I suspect we’ll find as much understanding and humour that exists in the phrase ‘don’t eat yellow snow’.

Gladys referred to Pochettino as being a swan last night. Serene on the surface while thrashing beneath the waterline.

The current tide of PR and hoo-ha cuts a stark contrast to the jubilance-free football and it turns out I’m not unique in being irritated by it.

To understand this, you need to understand that with the possible exception of Harry Kane, nobody on the playing staff shares your enthusiasm. Nobody.

Even the intellectually challenged Kyle Walker became bored with the threat of a brave new world and more jam tomorrow than anyone could ever dream of.

Danny Rose is still stinging from having missed that particular boat.

Marcus Edwards’ beef is along similar lines although admittedly laughable, given he’s a no-mark that once played 14minutes in  a cup game we lost a year ago. Edwards was apparently shut up with 5 year extension and the plan is he will be brought to a level whereby he shows the club greater respect – or he can be sold for lots and lots of money.

The Daniel Levy’s NASDAQ cobblers about the strength in home grown academy talent has been proved to be the very emptiest rhetoric. There’s nobody else there. Which is proved by the loan of the Great Black Hope Onomah to Aston Villa.

You can’t say ‘players like Harry Kane’ when he’s the only one unless you’re delusional or attempting to deceive. There’s nobody else there. It was precisely the vacuous Gung Ho that caused the NFL to roll their eyes. The Americans were dumbfounded by the lack of silverware.

Glad understands that more senior players are reviewing their position.

The New Destination™ is ENIC’s baby and theirs alone. The reason the front men for the project from the squad are Poch and Hugo is because only they can be relied upon to be perceived as sincere. An offshoot of this is the ongoing stupidity of Lloris as captain, a role that benefits no one.

Wembley has fatigued many of the players mentally as well as physically and for you, the ever hopeful supporter the potential bragging rights that you perceive of playing at a Themed Shopping Centre leaves the players cold.

Any high end Spurs player can walk into any established top 4 side and get a 5 star facility tomorrow. What is a delicious carrot to you, is another ruddy vegetable to them.

Incdentally, worth mentioning here that the Tunnel Club may make some of you clowns feel terribly giddy that such an experience will exist, but had the idea been put to vote with the players it would have been immediately vetoed. They don’t want it.

Glad believes that Christian Eriksen in particular remains unconvinced by the whole business and isn’t enjoying his season at all. Whilst Toby Alderweireld is definitely injured, he’s not chomping at the bit (ala Harry Kane whenever he’s out) to return, and is actually looking forward to a break from it all. Of course, all the whole his contract is running down.

Dele Alli is making all the right noises to everyone’s face, but it is thought that he sees himself on an entirely different trajectory. He’s less fed up with Spurs, and more concerned about building the brand and that means getting his name and his face all over the World Cup. If he has a good tournament then  he will want success domestically to match it. Spurs can’t offer him that.

I’ve been sour to the whole charade and made no secret of it. The b*ll*cks and the lies about regeneration, the need to sell 61,000 tickets to watch a side that throws cup in order to ensure it doesn’t win anything that might then jeopardise its Premier League money rankings. The utter contempt for any game that doesn’t line the coffers.

Now players are sour.

 
Comments
  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?

  • JimmyGrievance December 17, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    Comment after comment that top 4 is a good season…… We’re fast becoming our Sth London rivals with that logic.

    A good season would be to actually win something.

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 7:08 pm

      HOW FUCKING DARE YOU?!!!!

      Anyone would think ‘to dare is to do’ meant something.

      • JimmyGrievance December 18, 2017 at 8:45 am

        Oops my bad

  • Depressed cockerel December 17, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    Doesn’t matter who managers us, doesn’t matter which players we discover or bring through the academy. Doesn’t even matter if we win anything this year, as long as we are run as a profit making business, unwilling to pay the going rate for top player wages. Spurs fans will always have to say good bye to our top players and we will never dominate the league or have any sustained success.

    • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 3:36 pm

      What would you consider the going rate for top player wages, Cock? I’d be interested to know.

    • Guy Pie December 17, 2017 at 9:25 pm

      Something like 150k? For alerweirald, harry, Ericksen

  • Soflapaul December 17, 2017 at 2:48 pm

    Never as bad as you think and it’s never as good as you think. Spurs are struggling and for good reason. We are missing critical defenders, Who allow our offensive players to play more aggressively. We are playing on a bigger pitch. And poch Hasn’t come up with a good strategy given the circumstances . There is plenty to be concerned about But the realest and not the pessimist also Recognizes the games have Yet to be played. Winning the league never seemed realistic at Wembley to me. Staying in the top 4 the still the goal I hoped the team would achieve this year. That certainly is far from a given at this point but I’m also not going to pull the daggers out and start sounding like an Arsenal fan who Has some sense of entitlement.

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 2:59 pm

      A wanker writes…

      • Soflapaul December 18, 2017 at 2:50 am

        Perhaps. Lol I guess you told me off. I actually agree with much of what you wrote just think you are extrapolating too far. Nothing set in stone if we learn from our mistakes. Think poch does learn and missing those three players is a huge part of our problem

  • Andre December 17, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    Poch is covering for levy. He knows what players are needed to actually challenge and actually win trophies. Enic’s only concern is the stadium. Levy has said he is only the custodian of the club and I pray they will sell up as soon as the stadium is built. Then the new owners will give poch the funds he needs to bring in New players. The problem is if enic do not sell the club, then poch and our best players will leave ,and who would blame them? Then we would have seriously messed up our one chance to join the elite of football.

    • SpurAndy December 17, 2017 at 2:49 pm

      How do you know the new owners will give the funds Poch apparently needs?

      • Andre December 17, 2017 at 3:43 pm

        Because it will cost them £1.5 billion to buy the club. Do you think someone will pay a huge amount of money for no success? No way. Whoever buys us will have money like the citeh owners. They will be ambitious and want to win and put their name out thete. Nobody spends over a billion quid just to stand still.

  • Bob December 17, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    This is of course way over exaggerated, but the point that the salary structure has to be competitive is of course an obvious one. In fact the bigger issue is the thin squad, for instance we want to play 3 at the back but only have 4 players who can play there in total ((Foyth not ready). We need 6. As for yesterday, Poch has to be congratulated for at least trying to take the game to City when we could have just put 11 behind the ball, but then criticised for not changing it when it was t working, leaving Kane and Son isolated and out of he game. Goals one and four were the most awful defending and nothing to do with how good the opposition were. Goal three was probably offside. As to the fouls and card s the worst foul of the game was when Trippier was scythed down when crossing. Kane and Dele’s fouls didn’t change the game at all and were accidental, whereas the foul on Trippier and Kane’s kick in the face were both deliberate. Finally, City have developed the ‘skill’ of deliberately driving into the opposing player when they don’t win the challenge, so it looks like a foul against them when it is fact their momentum that causes he collision. Referees have to grow up and be wise to this Guardiola tactic and cut it out. A really bad day at the office for us but we do have to learn from it, as Poch says. We still have a chance of top 4 and we have to go for it. Any player looking for a move needs to play well to get it, so in the short term, everyone should be focused on the same thing.

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 3:01 pm

      Fuck me, you actually provided a revisionist account of a 4-1 loss.

      And included the line ‘Poch has to be congratulated’…

    • Downgoesfraser December 18, 2017 at 5:09 pm

      What a cock!😂😂😂

  • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 2:35 pm
  • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    Curiosity question regarding Dele’s foul on DeBruyne. Do you think it was deliberate or a follow thru of the tackle?

    • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 2:36 pm

      Listened on the radio, most pundits saying both Dele and Harry should have been two redcards.

      • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 2:39 pm

        For me, Dele yes, Kane no

  • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    There is an article on Spurs in the Guardian online, access is free. Our net spend is supposed to be plus £15 million over the last two seasons, unbelievable.

  • Melcyid December 17, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    Walker let us down badly yesterday

    • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm

      I have no ill will towards Walker, he’s bettered himself, he’s in a lot better place than his England mates, Harry, Dele and Eric. 0n present form Dele wouldn’t make the England squad.

  • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    Maybe we need as Spurs fans to stop torturing ourselves with useless dreams. I had a friend who was a huge Celtic fan, if they won he was over the moon, if they lost he was miserable. It got so bad he had to see a psychiatrist. She said he was overinvesting himself in Celtic, his mood was dependent on their fortunes. She told him to put a little distance between his emotions and and the Celts, he did and became more emotionally resilient.

    • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 2:24 pm

      Waste of money to see a shrink. When we lose I just drink more. Simples. 😬

      • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 2:25 pm

        And when we win, we drink more too. It’s not all bad, this football supporting lark.

        • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 2:26 pm

          Yeah, we got it nailed on.

        • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 2:29 pm

          😁

      • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 2:29 pm

        😀👌

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? December 17, 2017 at 2:24 pm

      Fuckin hell! Celtic!? He must av been the happiest man alive! Except today. 70 domestic games unbeaten. 70. That’s 70.

  • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    Poch and the team should shut the fuck up till next summer

  • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    Agree with most of your sentiments, but Chelsea sold Matic to United, and The Pool sold Stirling to City, it does happen. The problem is mentality one of Poch’s favourite words.

    • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 2:15 pm

      I’m mental.

    • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:15 pm

      Poch cannot speak English but can speak words. The players speak a lot of works.
      Their fucking coherence in footie leaves a lot to be desired.

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? December 17, 2017 at 2:16 pm

      Along with “so” and “calm”.

    • Lilywhite without the II December 17, 2017 at 2:24 pm

      Yes maybe but they didn’t want them and can go out and spend 45m on another player…..as where we would buy 3 shit ones…

  • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    Legoverlass

    Poochs increasingly deranged after match comments show he has no plan to resolve the collapse of his ” philosopheee”.To publicly state that being dismantled by City was a ” good experience” for the team because it shows the players how much they have to increase their level is beyond parody. GuardiIola knows that winning is everything. He does not manage clubs with owners like ENIC because he knows that you have to assemble the best players first and then get them winning matches. City have a squad that believe they are the best and that fuels their performance. We have a squad who know they are in a team that has a few top players but also many simply not good enough and there is no belief that they can win anything.That is in their mindset before they kick a ball. I suspect even Kane is now questioning his future. Selling Walker to a major competitor once again sent out a message to the players and the world that we are not a club truly focused on being the best.None of the other top six clubs would sell a first team player to another top six club especially when they had only just signed a new contract extension. The reason Levy signed players to extensions was not to build success on the football pitch but to increase the transfer value when sold. Trippier was never going to be as effective for us as Walker because our success over the past two seasons has been built upon a solid defence and the pace and width of Walker and Rose. To even imagine that Davies and a Trippier can give us those qualities is madness. So this season we have lost most of what made us good over the previous. Wanyama out. Toby out. Our wingbacks gone. The purchase of Sissoko ,Janssen and the French haircuts shows that either Pooch has no clue when it comes to creative and attacking players or he is just a patsy to Levy and ENIC. The selection of Lloris as captain was all about off the field activities and spinning the Levy line about the “philoosopheeee” and the “yoof project”. The fact that a Captain is all about leadership on the pitch and during a game says everything about what is important to ENIC and poses a big question mark about Pooch that he allows that situation to continue when the team lacks leadership during matches. The net investment by ENIC into football is minus 5 million….. into real estate over a billlion and most of that is borrowed. That’s the difference between us and the other top clubs and the players can see that even Bonzo did…

    The parody is real.

    There is no increase of level. Sometimes they aren’t fucked half to death and pull out a good game, much of the time they are.

    The philosophy counts for jack shit when everyone does of boredom.

    • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:11 pm

      Can you get chronically ill of boredom.Tottenham footie is my disease. Fuck is there no way out.
      Im going to start usung my juicer more

  • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    T

    is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
    Its the move. Its soulless, spiritless and everyone is instinctivly aware of its emptiness. There’s a void which can’t be filled by shiney new builds. A football club is more than aesthetic.

    Anaesthetic is the only cure

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? December 17, 2017 at 2:05 pm

      😊

    • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 2:11 pm

      Spending more in the summer window than Watford and Brighton might help a little too.

      Oh sorry, that’s far to cynical of me, I’ll shut up and keep saying that our 7th highest net spend isn’t linked to any of this false hope…

      • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 2:15 pm

        Not sure if you are aware of the difference, but spend isn’t the same thing as net spend. I know it’s confusing. We spend the 5th most in the PL. I know I’m repeating myself here, just trying to put you on the right track.

        • Lilywhite without the II December 17, 2017 at 2:20 pm

          Seriously, re-cycling money with what your get it that consistently takes a huge effort…well done Levy…

          • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 2:23 pm

            Sorry, could you rephrase that? I don’t have a clue what you mean.

            • Lilywhite without the II December 17, 2017 at 2:25 pm

              Just come back from a run,,haha, hands are cold!

              • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm

                I feel your pain. Fat fingers, I use the backspace button twice as much as any other.

              • Lilywhite without the II December 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm

                Levy tries his hardest to get net spend in spite of what’s best for the squad…

                • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 2:29 pm

                  I’m sure you think he does. But that doesn’t mean Watford and Brighton spend more than us.

                • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:35 pm

                  We sold Walker for 54 million.
                  I thought that selling him and buying Sanchez was a great move.
                  We bought Aurier.
                  I thought that was all good.
                  I didnt think Walker woukd turn out the way he did. But he did.
                  So did Paulinho and Fazio and Siggy.
                  So Poch is the pro at this. Let him figure that out.
                  He can figure out why our footy has been not that good this year as well.
                  Its on his head mostly.
                  I dont expect us to compete with the bigger teams yet anyway.
                  We do need to improve our footie

      • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:20 pm

        First of all for me is the situation acceptable to Poch or not?
        This we dont know because he isnt honest with his words.
        Your idea us for us to spend more. What the fuck do you mean?
        Who? What? When? How?

        • Lilywhite without the II December 17, 2017 at 2:22 pm

          Buying 2 very good players for silly money rather than 4 shit ones makes sense…

          • SpurAndy December 17, 2017 at 2:28 pm

            And pay top dollar wages? Will the others be OK with that?

            • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 2:29 pm

              Pay them too! Pay them all.

            • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:30 pm

              Exactly

              Common sense says that the players we have can do much better. Not this game.This game I dont care as much but the other games including the win during the week where the football was crap

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? December 17, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    Classic BT sports encounter in Serie A earlier. 2nd to bottom Verona 3 Milan 0. Red card for Milan. Wish I’d not had a lie in now. Lazyness means loss of profit😌

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? December 17, 2017 at 2:09 pm

      For blimey! Talk about paying for sleeping in….7/1 Hearts 4 Celtic 0. Celtic shirt sponsors of course are Dafabet. Somebody’s having a good Xmas.

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? December 17, 2017 at 2:10 pm

        For? *Cor

  • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    Ederson’s distribution was brilliant. That was huge.

    • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:01 pm

      It was bright.The switched it on.

  • RecaroN17 December 17, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    Roll on Burnley away.

    • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 1:45 pm

      It will be a real test, they are no mugs.

      • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 2:01 pm

        Yes we could get done there unless we improve.

        We can only hope that when Toby, Victor and Sanchez are back that we can go on a consistent run and make top 4. We have it in us to do that and what with Wembley I’ll take 4th now. Top 4 and a C.L semi final would be very good season for us.

        • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 2:12 pm

          The good news is we have a week to prepare for them.

        • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:21 pm

          Here you are talking top 4!!!!!!ffs

        • JimmyGrievance December 17, 2017 at 6:52 pm

          Sarcasm ?

    • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 2:13 pm

      Good piece that.

      Toby is a massive miss for us, he’s our talisman and has been since he signed. The defensive record massively improved as soon as he was signed. Toby is key.

  • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 1:32 pm

    Horndog 🇺🇸
    Yes but we have the team that we have. January signings typically don’t bring in messiahs. It is up to Poch and the players we have to play our way out of this. Big, big, ask. I want to believe we can. I want us to head into the New Lane with a squad that believes instead of one that fracturing from within. This has crossroads written all over it. Whatever happens won’t change my support for THFC but I want to be grinning not grimacing.

    The players often talk a big game but often they dont get close. There is something seriously lacking in the managing of the team.
    We have seen the players play well at times and other times not.
    We are lacking consistency but is it lack of tactics vis a vis the team we are playing,is it Pochs tunnel vision,is it the players individual lack of creativity. To me its Poch.
    Poch has a good system but if it cannot adapt if it begs the players to be rigid and not think then we cannot grow.
    Great managers think in the box and when they need to,out if it.
    Players talk like they believe but on the field they dont show they do.
    Too many games squeaking by or saved by the defence…
    Its not over but Poch and Levy are going to have to find answers soon

    • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 1:47 pm

      I can agree Ronnie. When we go back next year I want to be skipping and laughing.

      • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 1:59 pm

        Me too!!!
        You can skip I want to fly 😊

        • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 2:13 pm

          I was thinking more along the lines of the travel between the Bull and Liverpool Station.

          • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:22 pm

            Ok well I thonk after the Bull we might be skipping!!!

  • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    How long is Rich G banned for?

    • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 1:27 pm

      Probably none of our business

      • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 1:30 pm

        Fair do’s, you usually get told how long your sabatical is!

        • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 2:05 pm

          Perhaps worry less about breaches and be more concerned you don’t follow him into the bin with an errant ‘lol’. I will be blunt as some are too fucking thick to get it.
          ALL sites offering itk bin snide wankers without debate and this one is the same.

          • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:09 pm

            This us not all sites Harry.
            I woukd buy a guillotine its handy for cutting snide bloggers and for pastrami sandwiches

          • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 2:21 pm

            Fair do’s H. Ron, sounds like you talking balony..

            • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:24 pm

              Salami alechem

  • Scott December 17, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    City are on a different planet right now. Almost untouchable and it may be like this for some time.
    Who can challenge the funds that they have??
    We are still moving in the right direction, -remember the days of Andy Ried, Atouba, YP Lee???
    We need to focus on getting CL football for next season in the new stadium.
    Hopefully then, we will either be bought out by a billionaire, or generate enough income to pay more realistic wages and be in a position to better compete.
    Any side that has had success has also had downs along the way. Just look at City last season and the season before when Leicester beat them at the Etihad.
    Hang in there, be thankful at least we have some kind of structure and promised land. Believe in Poch. Pray for some investment

    • poxy December 17, 2017 at 12:59 pm

      Unfortunately, the extra revenue generated by the new stadium will probably be used to pay for it for quite a few years! I think being better able to compete is some years off unless Enic sell the club to much wealthier backers.

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? December 17, 2017 at 1:24 pm

        Exactly. Its a mirage. Weve been turning City etc over lately at WHL. This wasn’t the only way we could possibly compete. Its a lie.

    • JimmyGrievance December 17, 2017 at 6:57 pm

      You do know ENIC have been in charge ten years. ? You do know Joe Lewis is the UK’s 6th richest man and 248th in the World.

      He can afford to pay the going rate…. he chooses not to. Big difference in having, not having, and not wanting to

      • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 7:11 pm

        Yup.

  • poxy December 17, 2017 at 12:48 pm

    pretty sound summation, Harry. My one bone of contention with you regards Poch. I think he’s a pretty decent manager with a bad deck of cards though I must admit, he doesn’t seem to fully realize this himself! I think that we have been over achieving, given our transfer budget, wage structure and Levi’s notorious brinkmanship that usually provides us with one crap player at the end of each transfer window. We’ll look back on Poch with affection when we’re suffering from the latest incarnations of Santini and Christian Gross. Make no mistake about it, the GOD, Guardiola, working under the same conditions would NOT deliver a league title.

    We might still win the Cup this year (I certainly wouldn’t bet on it!) because that’s the kind of thing that happens-we have a far less enjoyable week by week time of it but go and win a trophy! However, I think the Cup would ultimately prove to be Poch’s swansong, because the team is likely to start breaking up this Summer. We really do need shot of Levi and Enic and considerably wealthier backers in their place.

  • Legoverlass December 17, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    Poochs increasingly deranged after match comments show he has no plan to resolve the collapse of his ” philosopheee”.To publicly state that being dismantled by City was a ” good experience” for the team because it shows the players how much they have to increase their level is beyond parody. GuardiIola knows that winning is everything. He does not manage clubs with owners like ENIC because he knows that you have to assemble the best players first and then get them winning matches. City have a squad that believe they are the best and that fuels their performance. We have a squad who know they are in a team that has a few top players but also many simply not good enough and there is no belief that they can win anything.That is in their mindset before they kick a ball. I suspect even Kane is now questioning his future. Selling Walker to a major competitor once again sent out a message to the players and the world that we are not a club truly focused on being the best.None of the other top six clubs would sell a first team player to another top six club especially when they had only just signed a new contract extension. The reason Levy signed players to extensions was not to build success on the football pitch but to increase the transfer value when sold. Trippier was never going to be as effective for us as Walker because our success over the past two seasons has been built upon a solid defence and the pace and width of Walker and Rose. To even imagine that Davies and a Trippier can give us those qualities is madness. So this season we have lost most of what made us good over the previous. Wanyama out. Toby out. Our wingbacks gone. The purchase of Sissoko ,Janssen and the French haircuts shows that either Pooch has no clue when it comes to creative and attacking players or he is just a patsy to Levy and ENIC. The selection of Lloris as captain was all about off the field activities and spinning the Levy line about the “philoosopheeee” and the “yoof project”. The fact that a Captain is all about leadership on the pitch and during a game says everything about what is important to ENIC and poses a big question mark about Pooch that he allows that situation to continue when the team lacks leadership during matches. The net investment by ENIC into football is minus 5 million….. into real estate over a billlion and most of that is borrowed. That’s the difference between us and the other top clubs and the players can see that even Bonzo did…

    • SpurAndy December 17, 2017 at 12:51 pm

      Fuck me, is there any point in going on…….

      • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 1:01 pm

        Quick! Everyone grab your wet bed sheets! We’ll put this fire out tugeva.

      • Legoverlass December 17, 2017 at 1:20 pm

        Yep that is a pretty good visualisation of yesterday’s match and the whole academy yoof project excuse for a lack of investment in the football business of winning “stuff”. So much hot air that is going down in flames…..

    • poxy December 17, 2017 at 12:53 pm

      pretty sound stuff there, sir

  • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    We’re 7 points off second, have played at Emerates, Shitty & Old Trashford. Top 4 still well on…

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 2:08 pm

      If we continue to play like we did against Brighton and Man City we could yet achieve 4th from bottom

      • ronwol196061🇨🇦 December 17, 2017 at 2:13 pm

        Ne’er a tru’er word

  • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    I have to say Hodgson had Palave playing some wonderful stuff yesterday

    • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 12:42 pm

      Yeah, I thought that too. Sack Poch, bring in the Hodgmeister…

      • SpurAndy December 17, 2017 at 12:45 pm

        Or what about a guest monthly manager? Also have one month where a random fan gets the chance?

        • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 12:46 pm

          Me, I want a go!!

        • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 1:06 pm

          This is wonderful. Do it for the chairman position too.

        • Sexy Beast December 17, 2017 at 1:09 pm

          Anyone but Dillenberg haha

        • Lilywhite without the II December 17, 2017 at 2:12 pm

          For once some sense!

  • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    In the past two years the team seemed united, they appeared to want to play for each other, they were a tight knit group. Was that them, Poch, the atmosphere at The Lane based on results, being young and hungry? Some of that unity seems to have slipped away. Is it wages, egos, injuries, Poch, Wembley? I certainly don’t know but we are definitely not turning up the way we have. There is a lot of work to be done to salvage season. The big question is are Poch and the squad up for it? Will a big run in the FA Cup help? Only if we win. Win a big run in the CL knock out rounds help? Only if we get to the semi’s or finals. Top four? A must to maintain some momentum from this season. Labored performances, mediocre results and a diminishing shit atmosphere at Wembley could combine to set the ‘project’ back significantly.

    • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:33 pm

      I always look to the flow of our games. We have lacked it.It looked better against Madrid and Dortmund but they were in a funk at the time. The reality is that our midfield is weak and our impregnable defence has been hurt by Toby and the inconsisency of Sanchez/Davies/Tripper/Rose etc
      The lack of tactical nous by Poch who to me is a one track pony.
      But you can see it in our flow,we dont have one

      • poxy December 17, 2017 at 1:03 pm

        Let’s face Dortmund were one of the great underachievers in the group stages this year and didn’t they even fail to beat Apoel at home!

    • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:35 pm

      Dele and Eriksen hasve been shit There has been no creativity at all

      Dele,Eriksen,Dembele,Winks…..not too much created there

      • Horndog 🇺🇸 December 17, 2017 at 12:44 pm

        Yes but we have the team that we have. January signings typically don’t bring in messiahs. It is up to Poch and the players we have to play our way out of this. Big, big, ask. I want to believe we can. I want us to head into the New Lane with a squad that believes instead of one that fracturing from within. This has crossroads written all over it. Whatever happens won’t change my support for THFC but I want to be grinning not grimacing.

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? December 17, 2017 at 1:30 pm

      Its the move. Its soulless, spiritless and everyone is instinctivly aware of its emptiness. There’s a void which can’t be filled by shiney new builds. A football club is more than aesthetic.

  • Caveman December 17, 2017 at 12:27 pm

    Suddenly Poch is crap because City did to Spurs what the did to all comers this season. Tut tut.

    • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      No, it’s not one game, it’s been downhill since Dortmund.

    • Limerick AL. December 17, 2017 at 12:29 pm

      Its not the defeat, its the manner of the defeat.

    • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:29 pm

      No.We have been shit a lot this season,some good games when the other team allowed it

      • poxy December 17, 2017 at 1:11 pm

        We’ve done well in Europe against a Madrid team well short of their best and a Dortmund team well out of sorts. The continentals, not so familiar with us as domestic opposition, haven’t perhaps worked out how to play the 2017-18 Spurs model. Domestically, we’ve been pretty poor, as I had anticipated we would be playing our home games at Wembley. As well as the poor quality of our league performances (at the moment, Burnley are above us in the table), we were simply dreadful in the league cup, fortunate to edge past Barnsley at Wembley before going down to West Ham.

  • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    Chris Sutton hammering Dele Ali.

  • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    5Live discussing yesterday now, if anyone interested.

    • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 12:23 pm

      Popping out to a lunch quiz. Is it a discussion or inquest?

      • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 12:24 pm

        Inquest.

      • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:25 pm

        Autopsy

  • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    Problems are no DM’s to play alongside Dembele as Wan injured & Dier playing at CB. We have a right back who has lead boots. We have Toby injured, Sanchez lost for 3 games. We have Rose playing shite, Alli, Eriksen & Dier all doing the same. Add Poch’s late substitutions when it was plainly obvious changes needed to be made early doors & you have most of the answers to yesterday in a nutshell.

  • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    It was a wonderful three years, best I remember, but it’s over now, not with a bang but a whimper. Walker leaving lit the blue touch paper. When they announce another year at Wembley, put the lights out.

  • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    IMO lacking a ruthless streak sseemingly Poch is too nice!

  • SpursGoliath December 17, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    I thought Tobuy just signed a new contract? See how we fare over the Christmas break – I don’t see that gawdy Galactico monstrosity that’s throwing the grade curve of the entire league changes much.

    We need bodies back, then see where we are.

    • SpursGoliath December 17, 2017 at 12:16 pm

      I thought Tbuy just signed a new contract? See how we fare over the Christmas break – I don’t see losing to that gawdy Galactico monstrosity that’s throwing the grade curve of the entire league changes much.

      We need bodies back, then see where we are.

    • Zara December 17, 2017 at 12:16 pm

      Homeless, Gutless and Clueless !

  • caveman December 17, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    Toby and Wanyama would have been overran yesterday. City can go out and buy the exact player for the exact position Pep requires and he has done exactly this. We can only dream of buying the same player. I’ve seen on here, people saying we should buy Draxler, Bale or whoever. A pipedream, nothing more. City can buy two players for every position and no bother to them. Poch is doing a hell of a job with the tools he has. Next summer the sharks will come in and have the pick of our first team and it looks like Toby and Rose will be creamed off by the big boys. We have a project and we will periodically get a tonking until we have established ourselves back at the new WHL. Keep on trying Poch, yesterday was expected.

    • Limerick AL. December 17, 2017 at 12:27 pm

      Trying ? Fuck trying its time for Succeeding.

  • Zara December 17, 2017 at 12:14 pm

    Poch is not only struggling on the Tactics front but on the Interview front as well, who ever heard of a Manager bugging up the Opposition for a full week before a big game, you may complement their style of play but make it clear you have the nous to combat it and the team to take the game to them but rolling over in the full glare of the Media, oil vey !

  • Still Nil Nil December 17, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    I love and hate spurs in equal measure.

    I can never bear to watch spurs in any highlights when they lose.

    It turns my stomach.

    At least we’ve finally got our spurs back.

  • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    OK I have a competition:

    You have to figure out what Poch said to Lloris about he kicking out yesterday.

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 12:19 pm

      Was it,’I think will buy my wife a new hat this weekend’?

    • Limerick AL. December 17, 2017 at 12:20 pm

      Try to keep your eyes open. You Clown you.

    • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      This is no way to run a captaincy.Better try to kick the ball into touch.It might work

  • Panama Paul December 17, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    The EPL has never, ever been a level playing field. Man U , Liverpool and then the SKY Cabal = all about the money. Being able to buy up the best players just so no-one else can. We’ve climbed up the food chain but we are not at their level. in fact, we seem to be an unwelcome guest at that particular table. We have a strong first team when all fit but the difference between us and City for example is that they can put in a top notch replacement for a missing 1st teamer and ours tend to be average. However, I’m honestly not bitter, if I were a glory hunter I’d be supporting another team.

    • richspurs December 17, 2017 at 12:12 pm

      So we trapped into supporting any shite Levy throws on the wall.

  • Limerick AL. December 17, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    The Only Positive from yesterday was our playing strip, except for the shield surrounding the Chicken, which is Shite.

    • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:09 pm

      The chicken was well contained.It was a metaphor for who we are

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 12:12 pm

      That kit was the singular positive, looked great. Everyone who played bar Lamela should be made to set fire to their shirt.

      • richspurs December 17, 2017 at 12:14 pm

        Ooooh Lamela lover.

      • Limerick AL. December 17, 2017 at 12:14 pm

        While its still on their Feckin’back.

      • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:15 pm

        You cant,it would melt.

  • richspurs December 17, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    Someone help, please.
    How the hell did we top the CL group, and are still in with a top 4 chance, with this bunch of brainless, spineless, dirty (yes Kane and Dele), useless bunch of underpaid i no hopers?
    i am perplexed.

    • Limerick AL. December 17, 2017 at 12:09 pm

      We got Lucky, and to Cap it all, a lot of People did not see this.

      • richspurs December 17, 2017 at 12:11 pm

        You dont think someone up there is feckin with us.?

    • Jim,Newry Spur. December 17, 2017 at 12:10 pm

      Me too.

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 12:14 pm

      Top 4 chance = fantasy we’ll need other teams to collapse
      CL = Still not won anything

      I trust this helps somewhat.

    • Freund or Foe December 17, 2017 at 12:23 pm

      It’s a conspiracy. They’re all in it together, fucking with our heads, a practical joke of epic proportions. I can only hope the end is nigh.

  • Zara December 17, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    Doom & Gloom, well I for one think we can give Burnley a game !

    • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 12:08 pm

      Yes if you mean not ruling out a Burnley win I agree!

  • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    Compare the money spent on their team and what we spent in ours. All your answers are right there…

    • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:05 pm

      It means shit really. You want them to spend as much as Chelsea and City or United.Are you fucking off your rocker?

      • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 1:43 pm

        If you do some research Ron you will find that the teams with the highest net spends win stuff and those with the lower ones don’t. It means shit? How so?

        Who’s ‘them’ Ron? Our current owners? Who gives a fuck about them?

        They aren’t the club, they are majority shareholders who spend 7th highest in the league on the team. Why should they expect the team to be at the top when they don’t back that ambition?

        So may questions on her yet so few decent answers…

        • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 1:44 pm

          many questions

      • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 1:53 pm

        Nobody expects ENIC to pay what Citeh do but they could spend more than fucking seventh highest.

        To get some perspective Brighton and Watford’s summer net spend was higher than ours, we have been in the Champions League two seasons running which is supposed to mean more revenue and we spend more that Watford and Brighton?

        It’s bloody pathetic…

        • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 1:53 pm

          don’t spend rather.

    • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 12:07 pm

      True having a bottomless pit of money helps but it’s how you spend those monies that counts. Pep identified / remedied some weaknesses to perfection.

      • Limerick AL. December 17, 2017 at 12:12 pm

        Spot On. When he got rid of Hart I was surprised, but he wanted a Footballer in Goal.

      • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 1:46 pm

        Yep. Guardiola needed to fix some positions in the team and he did it by spending the going rate, there is quality and experience in every position and as backup.

        If you think that has no bearing on how the team do over a season then you’re in denial of the facts.

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 12:16 pm

      Winning breeds winning. Winning earns revenues. Revenues well run club spend on players.

      We not only win nothing, we perpetuate the misery by hiring deadbeat scouts.

      • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 1:47 pm

        I wonder when Levy will be appointing the next DOF… Shudder!!!

  • Tizzy December 17, 2017 at 12:01 pm

    The biggest problem we had yesterday was 3 (thats over 1/4 and more than 2 for those idiots out there) of our first team out. Dier isnt a good CB, Winks isnt a good DM and neither is Dembele. Put that all in the mix and you have an unbalanced, and just ok football team.

    People will be all singing all chearing when we thump Juve and decide that a year out of Europe next season will benefit our PL push next.

  • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    What fucking happened to uber Tottenham.The team that nobody would catach before we had uber speed and uber toughness as we train at a whole different sphere of training.
    What happened. Did we turn into a sponge cake overnight. This season weve been out pressed by many teams and often out played.
    Our Captain was completely shit yesterday That was inspiring.
    Our manager who brain washes our pea brained players has them all believing but thats just until the ball gets kicked off that we revert to sponge cake.
    They are all full of shit. Nonsense.fantasy.

    • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 1:55 pm

      No leaders and a lack of experienced quality in the squad, that costs money that ENIC won’t hand over.

  • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 11:46 am

    Outclassed and routed by a rampant Citeh side it was a chastening experience watching this debacle at a pub in Ross On Wye. Positives. Were there any.?What the hec was going in with the timing of Poch’s subs? By the time he made them (which ought to have been at HT. 3 on. 3 off) the match was effectively over as a contest.
    Fortunately we don’t play Citeh ever week. Hang on we have to play them at Wembley. I am resigned to the fact that we endure another trophless season and finish outside the top 4.

    • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 11:46 am

      *trophyless

    • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 11:50 am

      You would not have noticed Citeh who have a more commanding keeper were without Silva and some injured defenders!

      • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 11:52 am

        Alli and Eriksen were anoymous, Dembeles legs have gone and Winks out of his depth. I shall stop there.

        • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 11:55 am

          Dembele played well the weeks before what are you talking about

          • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 12:11 pm

            Come on Ron Dembele’s influence is on the wain.

            • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:14 pm

              Are you Mr Instant Gratification.
              You must have been watching too much cricket that past month or two

          • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 12:18 pm

            Mousa is fucked Ron. He’s like a faulty battery that sometimes charges up 100%, other times doesn’t charge at all. He’s broken.

            • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:27 pm

              I didnt watch 90% of the game
              But I know he has done well over the last couple of months compared with most of the other shit players

  • richspurs December 17, 2017 at 11:43 am

    The problems with Spurs:
    No leader out on the pitch
    we give up too easily especially against the so called bigger teams away from home
    lack cutting edge and risk taking in the final third
    I agree Pocho has an ego as someone said earlier here will not change or adapt easily
    players seem to pick and choose when to perform, explains sublime and riduculous range of performances meaning Pochobis a wimp and cannot/will not discipline em
    sobits another season of meandering,

  • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 11:43 am

    I watched 3 minutes of the game last night and thought fuck it..Im not watching this shit so I put on Vikings 4. There was no comparison

  • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 11:37 am

    Ethan
    Points that were further emphasized from last night’s performance:
    1. Trippier can’t defend against top class wingers
    2. Winks is Ryan Mason number 2. People just give him an easy time because he’s one of our own. Not good enough.
    3. Dembele is past it and is now only fit to be an impact player. Our central midfield, even when Wanyama returns is not good enough.
    4. Dier thinks he’s Beckenbeaur but is not. Should keep it simple.
    5. Lamela should get more game time.
    6. Bring Barkley and Zaha in. Drop Alli until he wakes from his slumber.
    7. As long as ENIC runs this club we will never have good enough players to match our ambitions. And in the rare times that we happen to luckily acquire a couple of world class players due to astute purchases we won’t keep them happy for long because the rest of the team isn’t good enough.
    8. I’ve had enough of ENIC apologists pinning it on Poch every time we drop points. Poch is not perfect but he’s performed miracles with limited resources. If we truly want to compete with the elite we need the financial elite to buy over our club. There’s a reason why all the most successful clubs in Europe are also the richest.

    Trippier is a winger
    Winks is Ryan Mason number 2 up to now
    Dembele is not past it but not in the class of City.They just have too much
    Dier is an average CB at best,a little better at DM
    Lamela is probably still not 100% but when he was 100% he was about 60%
    Dele Schmelli we wait for his 5 minutes,it doesnt come as much as it did
    ENIC is not changing. There is a great danger THFC will cave in and Poch and Co will be gone.What will they do with their 7 wonders of the world stadium,Levy better start thinking but not sure he is capable
    Poch is a one trick pony.No genius.He is a fucking useless man manager even though they say they like him.They talk a deep love for him but their feet are not in line with that. They all are full of shit including Poch. He has a plan and thats about it. has failed to change games

    • Lilywhite without the ll December 17, 2017 at 11:39 am

      Is that you Ron……Ron….

      • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 11:39 am

        Its Me…Me

    • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 11:48 am

      Trippier got no Pace & can’t take a player on. Not much of a winger Ron..

      • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 11:53 am

        It was a relative not absolute comment.He is a better winger than a defender

        • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 11:54 am

          Fair comment!

          • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 11:56 am

            No its not,I came here for an argument but just a 5 minute one

    • Ronan December 17, 2017 at 11:59 am

      Poch’s man management may not be everything we’re led to believe it is. Jenas is a friend of kyle walker’s and was saying on BBC 5live last Friday that the reason walker wanted out was not money or even trophies, but rather the lack of respect poch showed him as a senior, long-serving player .. refused any explanations for why he was left out of big games despite being in the form of his life, then marginalized when he protested. That account of walker’s disillusionment is corroborated by poch himself in his book.

      It’s one thing to freeze out liabilities like chiraches and adebayor who can be easily upgraded. Not quite so easy to upgrade the guy voted the best RB in the PL. Downright insanity letting him go to the title favourites, at a time when they had no right backs.

      • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:04 pm

        Im motr concerned about this comment re the other players.If he has faourites like Dele and Eriksen then they maybe are getting it the other way,being built up even though their performances have been shit. It all adds up to Poch being a shit man manager and a non creative manager too.he has a plan and a discipline. Ok. Its not good enough

        • Ronan December 17, 2017 at 12:13 pm

          No creative or pacy alternatives to Dele and Eriksen were brought in over the summer, Ron, when spurs were a more attractive proposition than they’ve been for many a year. Of course, even if other creative options had been brought in, chances are still we wouldn’t be keeping pace with Man C. But nobody knew that in the summer. Instead, what we did last summer was help Man C go out of sight of us.

          • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:19 pm

            Im talking about the management of these players. Poch has done a shit job of managing them. just like he was negative with Walker,with Dele and Eriksen he was probably too soft or uninspiring

      • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 12:17 pm

        Poch has the swagger of a man that’s won lots. He refers to himself as ‘a winner’.

        He goes to lunch with Fergie.

        He is in fact a fraud who has won fuck all.

        • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:21 pm

          Its not about being at that level but it is about growing and its possible he thinks he knows it all when he is holding on to dear life to his precious fucking system that teams are coming a tumble to

  • Zara December 17, 2017 at 11:34 am

    Kyle Walker is a better player now than he was at Spurs, this in part is because the runs other players are making are practiced and second nature also he has trained on and is more composed on the ball, less likely to make glaring errors. Had he stayed at Spurs he would not have improved.

    • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 11:54 am

      Pep is a brilliant manager,Poch is nowhere near it

      • David Dillenberg December 17, 2017 at 12:01 pm

        Super manager he is with all the funds at his disposal when has Pep ever managed an “inferior” side? Managing Barcelona, Bayern and Citeh is easier than most. What he has done superbly well is mould a superb side into winners. Ditto Barca,

        • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 12:07 pm

          He wouldnt manage a inferior side. Why should he,he is one of the best managers in the world,if not the best manager.

      • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 12:18 pm

        Pep has a CV.

  • Lilywhite without the ll December 17, 2017 at 11:34 am

    What H writes is what we see with our own eyes whether you believe it or not. I think most of the players are burnt out physically and emotionally. Two fantatsic seasons of nearly men and being told they are the best team in the league and still not winning everything has had its toll. Then, leaving all our buying till the last minute and getting 2nd or 3rd choice players in over the summer, along with being forced to play at Wembley, has derailed what was a great end to last season.
    On top of that we have the like of Rose being a twat, Alli getting a new managnment team in the hope of being the next James Bond and now Toby (that should be made captain) not signing or dragging it out.
    We haven’t “pushed on” from the last 2 years….this is going to take some fixing…..

  • ronwol196061 December 17, 2017 at 11:28 am

    ‘Any high end Spurs player can walk into any established top 4 side and get a 5 star facility tomorrow. What is a delicious carrot to you, is another ruddy vegetable to them’

    What do you mean ‘high end’ Harry?
    The (high) end is Nigh

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 12:25 pm

      Hang ’em high end

  • Zara December 17, 2017 at 11:23 am

    Alli and Kane should both have been Red Carded and Rose was lucky to get away with the push, see it as it was, we got the rub of the green with the ref though I grant you Otamendi got lucky for Man City.
    I really can’t understand the constant indiscipline, Poch may want players to have an edge but I would rather they saw out the entire game, Alli being the exception.

  • caveman December 17, 2017 at 11:16 am

    Dier

    • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 11:18 am

      He should have been alongside Demebele yesterday with Davies LCB. Him & Alli’s bromance over I recon..

  • caveman December 17, 2017 at 11:16 am

    Diner was so casual all game. Looks like he and Dele are in it together!

  • Nick December 17, 2017 at 11:05 am

    If any of you genuinely believed we’d get something from this game then you will be disappointed when the big fat fella doesn’t turn up in a few days time.conspiracy theories to promote your own agenda do not help.We are a poor side carrying to many out of form players with no replacements on the bench.lamela did more in a minute than the rest of the midfield all game.Money needs to be spent in January or next season at Wembley with no European competition will be a very difficult sell

  • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 11:05 am

    Tottenham Hotspur have been quoted a figure of £20m for Ryan Sessegnon with a further £10m required to prise away his brother, Steven, from Craven Cottage according to The Mirror.

    Sounds like total BS, can’t believe he’d go for £20 mil…

    • Willy Juice December 17, 2017 at 11:09 am

      20 is too much. whats he done??? and 10 mill for his younger brother??? he must be good at playing pogs or something.

      • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 11:13 am

        I think he’ll go for closer to 30 as it happens! Wimmer just went for 18..

  • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 10:56 am

    I look forward to the day people realise Winks & Trippier aren’t good enough & wouldn’t be starting for any other of the top 4 sides.. Pair of numpties.

  • Salt in the Wound December 17, 2017 at 10:46 am

    Trippier crosses better than Walker, but he doesn’t fill up the right hand side like Walker could – and is now doing for Citeh. And neither could or does Aurier – so one weakness this season over the past two is the loss of Walker.

    The defence can’t take the loss of Alderweireld and the midfield can’t take the loss of Wanyama. There is currently no leader (again).

    Alli is having his first loss of form (but won’t admit it because he’s already a proven ‘superstar’ in the world of footie chat – in the wisdom of all those Alan Partridges).

    Dembele is back to doing what he does worst (gettting lost looking for a way out) than does best (finding a way through).

    Erikssen ejaculated prematurely with his Danish hat-trick and will be a spent force until he wakes from his slumber, by which time the Totts will be severely below Burnleh.

    Winks one day will be Perryman.

    All-in-all, I didn’t see this Hellishness coming, but what I want to see is a Champions League semi against Citeh, and a Tottenham win on aggregate.

    • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 10:49 am

      Winks is a bit wank, as is Trippier! Dembele was left with too much to do, agree with most of your points tho.

    • Willy Juice December 17, 2017 at 11:05 am

      all accurate bar the crap about us getting to the semi of champions league. Never mind the part about beating city over two legs. They would wallop us over two legs. 10 goal job.

      • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 11:08 am

        We can make semi’s of CL, & you can guarantee that’s where all our eggs are now the league’s over in December. Everyone back, no way would city spank us like last night.

  • East Stand December 17, 2017 at 10:45 am

    Surely it’s the lack of investment in the team that would piss players off? We had momentum but ENIC are more interested in continuing expectation management…

  • Ethan December 17, 2017 at 10:42 am

    Points that were further emphasized from last night’s performance:

    1. Trippier can’t defend against top class wingers
    2. Winks is Ryan Mason number 2. People just give him an easy time because he’s one of our own. Not good enough.
    3. Dembele is past it and is now only fit to be an impact player. Our central midfield, even when Wanyama returns is not good enough.
    4. Dier thinks he’s Beckenbeaur but is not. Should keep it simple.
    5. Lamela should get more game time.
    6. Bring Barkley and Zaha in. Drop Alli until he wakes from his slumber.
    7. As long as ENIC runs this club we will never have good enough players to match our ambitions. And in the rare times that we happen to luckily acquire a couple of world class players due to astute purchases we won’t keep them happy for long because the rest of the team isn’t good enough.
    8. I’ve had enough of ENIC apologists pinning it on Poch every time we drop points. Poch is not perfect but he’s performed miracles with limited resources. If we truly want to compete with the elite we need the financial elite to buy over our club. There’s a reason why all the most successful clubs in Europe are also the richest.

    • caveman December 17, 2017 at 11:12 am

      Good point about replacing ENIC, but Levy has to see the ‘new build’ through, otherwise the momentum might delay things.

    • jfdit December 17, 2017 at 11:30 am

      we have an elephant in the room going forward, according to Levy the new experience is going to cost circa £1,000,000,000 or 10 x Harry Kane’s for easy translation, we don’t have this money it will be borrowed at rates in or around 3-4%, interest payments alone will eat £30-40 million, capital repayments similar cost,

      the team we have now will be the team at the new ground probably bar Rose & Alli, that team is now far behind our competitors teams as they’ve invested in decent players while we haven’t. ENIC know they make the same return regardless – they also know what it takes the win trophies but lack the will.

      • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 11:47 am

        We won’t have borrowed 800 mil, and if we did, interest at 3.5% would be 28 mil. We won’t come close, 20 mil a year tops for interest.

      • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 12:25 pm

        Ouch and therein lies the rub – the money won’t skip a beat – unless we get relegated.

        Spurs are like a fucking workhouse – as long as the slave death/new slave ratio is kept balanced, then you can keep sewing mailbags or whatever out is you’re doing forever.

  • SpurAndy December 17, 2017 at 10:33 am

    My perception of yesterday’s events was a game where one team had an exceptional array of talent playing at the peak of their powers. A team that currently, it could be argued,are the best that the PL has ever seen. They’ll probably get more points than any other team have ever got and win it by a mile. They played a team that currently have a number of key players missing and aren’t in a run of form, for whatever reason. Under those circumstances there’s no surprise in the outcome as disappointing as it is. Players naturally get pissed off like the fans when things don’t go well. Yes I’m sure some wouldnt mind being at other clubs earning more and perhaps winning stuff but there’s only a few of them in our team that would be offered the chance. I think the majority know that the only way for them is sideways or down and currently Spurs is still a decent bet for their career.

  • madcap December 17, 2017 at 10:21 am

    Spurs were poor, very poor. It is difficult to believe that we finished above City for the past two seasons and grabbed 4 out of 6 points against them just 12 months ago. But they have a squad of superstars and we have half a squad of sometimes superstars. No Wanyama, Alderweild (spelling) or Sanchez meant Dier playing out of position. Our defence was terrible, Trippier was shockingly bad. We had no chance against such a brillliant City side. I am concerned though that so many of our players seem out of form, and have been for most of the season, i.e. Lloris, Ali, Dembele and Erikson. Poch will sort it out, but it looks like our best chance of winning the title in a lifetime was the last two seasons. Shame.

  • Accy December 17, 2017 at 10:15 am

    Look I prefer this blog and occasionally I pop over to Spurs Community for shits and giggles, but today I’ve popped over there and people are saying things like

    “Every time someone says we need a CM it pains me that we sold Bentaleb”

    and

    “Why do we need Zaha when we have Nkoudou?”

    It’s NOT everyone on there – just one or two with these sorts of views. But boy can people have weird views on our football team…

  • McG⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 10:14 am

    And boy ďid we look dickheads trying to play it out from the back yesterday, that was embarrassing. Someone ie Poch needs to teach players you sometimes need to move in order to receive the ball.

    • Willy Juice December 17, 2017 at 11:01 am

      mentioned that on the last blog. I think rose went own injured at one stage, a perfect time for poch to grab the group together and say stop trying to mplay the ball out you gang of idiots. push up the pitch and let captain fantastic kick the ball as far as he can and we press them up there.

      • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 11:11 am

        Pea rolling the ball around the back four, absolute joke. Hit the ball with some purpose & move for the return, pussies yesterday.

        • Willy Juice December 17, 2017 at 11:13 am

          even when one of the bum teams press us we cant handle it ever mind city. The lack of intervention from poch worries me. we could have been 4 or 5 down at ht.

  • Dino December 17, 2017 at 10:09 am

    Pochatino fecked up by leaving it much, much too late to change it around…. Dembele should have been hauled off shortly after half time…I would of brought on Davies much earlier & pushed Rose further forward to run at them. Poch has done a great job with this team since he started but when push comes to shove we cant compete with the likes of City & Utd in terms of bench & personnel. Its clear from recent games he has no trust in his subs..in the Arsenal game a few weeks back, we were 2 down & finished the game with an unused sub.

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 10:25 am

      FFS this is NOT the source article

      THIS is https://www.thegamblingtimes.com/2017/12/12/spurs-ready-make-move-barkley/-

      The Gambling Times. Absolute dog shit.

      Any more of this and bans will be made without fear or favour.

      • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 10:32 am

        Worse yet, the source article is a 404 on a dog shit site

        • Sexy Beast December 17, 2017 at 10:42 am

          I don’t understand how i read it on Spurs media watch and shared it, but it come up like that? sorry……….. ban me for that? really?

          • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 10:47 am

            I’m not banning you, but I will ban in future anyone trading dog muck into my carpet.

            We need to keep this place free of crap like that.

            A Ross Barkley rumour from a gambling blog that doesn’t even vend the page?

            The moral of the story is check what you’re sharing before hitting the button. It’s not unreasonable. NewsNow will incidentally remove that, I bet you. It has no value and that’s against their Editorial Standards. Believe it or don’t I have my own standards and shite like that is not welcome. Nobody in their right fucking mind would want to read that.

            • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 10:48 am

              The source article within the piece you linked to was the gambling site. So whatever was in the host article you shared was not worth reading.

              • McG ⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 10:54 am

                Yeah smoz, keep an eye on your Candi Staton.

  • Sexy Beast December 17, 2017 at 10:06 am

    *comment removed*

  • McG⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 10:04 am

    Let’s get down to brass tacks, playing Winks alongside Dembele didn’t work. I kinda hoped it would, and looked for the positive, but he ain’t good enough. Dembele ain’t even fully match fit, should have been sissy or dier in there offering some beef. Tripper is a bit shit, let’s be honest. He can cross, but soon as he’s up against anyone with a bit of pace or skill we’re fucked, think I’ve seen enough tbh, move him on in the summer. We desperately miss Wanyama, we desperately miss Tobes, fact. City got to play us at a good time, when no Sanchez too, another fact. Rose needs to fuck off, trying stupid shots when others were in better positions, bring in Shaw, and Sessy, one for now, one for the future. Poch got it wrong yesterday and should have made his subs earlier. Still say we’ll make top 4, but we got some work to do.

    • Dino December 17, 2017 at 10:15 am

      I think top 3 will stay as it is & think we’re in a foot race for fourth with Liverpool & the goons. Yesterday was our 5th defeat & we haven’t played Chelsea/Liverpool away yet & I dont see us getting anything from those games & with Toby out til Feb I’d say we’re looking at Europa league next season.

  • Sid Trotter December 17, 2017 at 10:03 am

    So, who are we signing? And when?

  • Ned December 17, 2017 at 9:58 am

    What I couldn’t understand was why Trippier wasn’t hooked when it was so obvious that he was getting ripped to bits. Not just blaming him but we don’t do ourselves any favours sometimes. By the time the subs were made the game was over. And when we did break their press our final ball was awful. We have to learn when to play short and when to go long. As for Walker you can’t blame the bloke. Doubles his money and wins the league. I’m sure Toby will be fancying some of that.

  • Sexy Beast December 17, 2017 at 9:54 am

    On the evidence of this season only Kane and Toby will be the sought after players. The rest of this season is on a knife edge, we need to get a win next week at Burnley and win against the bus parkers at Wembley in the up and coming games if not the crowds at Wembley will dwindle ( they are starting to already which won’t help the atmosphere or the players) this could send us into the AVB negative spiral which sees us out of Euroupe all togeather (better that then the Thursday night cup imo).
    Again Pooch imo played the wrong tatics, benifit of hindsight i know but surley sit deep and try counter attack?
    Winks and Moussa were exposed we needed more in the middle of the park, we really miss Wanyama, we were exposed when their keeper had the ball at his feet ffs!
    Will be interesting to play them at Wembley with hopefully a full strength side later in the season.

    • Sexy Beast December 17, 2017 at 9:58 am

      Is it Pooch’s ego that gets in the way of tactics? Refusing to sit deep against Pep but doing at home to DVB, Madrid and Liverpool?

  • YidInExile December 17, 2017 at 9:50 am

    This question has been doing the rounds in recent years, so

    Would you want an Oiligarch to buy us from Levy & Joe?

    Honesty pls

    • Sexy Beast December 17, 2017 at 10:02 am

      Well that is a loaded question, an Abramovich type no, a Shiek Mansour type yes.

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 10:28 am

      Anyone would do a better job. The list is long.

    • Joe Lewis and his yachts December 17, 2017 at 12:37 pm

      Yes. Anybody but ENIC. They are running Spurs as a property development company with football club attached. Lewis is not a pauper. We are actually owned by a billionaire. Unfortunately, we have the kind that cuts out the money off coupons from the Daily Star…

  • YidInExile December 17, 2017 at 9:47 am

    Money, its always money, look no further, everything else is a guise, a lie, i fuckin hated Walker when he jumped, but i would have done the same, our billionaire just wont cough up, nothing else to it

  • Chi Y-Word December 17, 2017 at 9:46 am

    While I’d normally be defending the team I love to the hilt, last night reminded me of the last hours of AVB… especially the 6-0 (I think) against Chelsea? You could actually see on the player’s faces in that game that they’d given up.

    I get that Dele can try too hard, but I don’t know what Eriksen’s deal is. The lad just seems to buckle until the game is either won or lost.

    And, for the first time, Poch annoyed me. Dembele… the guy is strong as an ox, but now has no pace. We should have stated Davies in the back four and moved Dier to DM. Either that or bring Sissoko on in the middle (I know, right!? That’s where we are right now)

    Also, why leave Dele and Christian on for 74mins when they’ve added nothing to the game, and bring Sonny (our one form player) off? What message is that sending?

    And the Harrys… both look absolutely knackered. You know how they say that it doesn’t matter how many they miss, you should only be concerned about a Striker when he’s not getting the opportunities? Stoke aside, the lads not at it. I’ve got a nasty suspicion that the internal competitiveness of professional sportsmen is ripping our team up. Gone are the multi-levelled handshakes, and the smiles. Now everyone is out to make a name for themselves and prove that they’re as good as HK, and it’s to the detriment of the team.

    Sincerely,

    Concerned of West Sussex

  • McG⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 9:44 am

    Wembley has fatigued both mentally and physically the players in under half a season? Poor little mites, maybe we should provide them with bibs and some farleys rusks, and a few dummies to suck. This is the same season they’ve done so well there in the champions league too, I just don’t understand it.

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 10:27 am

      Next time just post ‘I just don’t understand it.’

  • Rich G🙄 December 17, 2017 at 9:39 am

    A complete bunch of made up paranoid bullshit

    • McG⚽⚽ December 17, 2017 at 10:09 am

      Lol

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 10:27 am

      Enjoy Dear Mr Enema.

      • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 10:54 am

        There we go, long time poster – gone – easy peasey.

  • RecaroN17 December 17, 2017 at 9:11 am

    That cheered me up no end.

  • BARD December 17, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Underinvestment and Wembley. The 2 biggest factors. Enic out.

  • Raz December 17, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Your Wake Up Call Sir !

  • Lahdedah December 17, 2017 at 8:55 am

    Frost

    • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 9:06 am

      Chilly willy weather here – nothing worse than a cool tool

      • Aussie in Switzerland December 17, 2017 at 9:10 am

        Going to watch the ski jumping world tour in Engleberg……expecting some fucker to die or at least one major medivac…..never been before, so I expect to be entertained after an hour on a train….minus 4 in the valley

        • Harry Hotspur December 17, 2017 at 9:24 am

          Have cowbell will travel