Date: 27th September 2017 at 1:58pm
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After bungling the Swansea City game Poch tetchily told us, “I think the specialists are up here”. The only problem with claiming to be a specialist is that it really helps if you aren’t seeking to pass off being able to tie your shoelaces without looking –  as also being able to produce bench-grade shoes.

This isn’t some augmented defence of Aurier, by the way. In the last 24 hours I have been accused of dumbly backing the guy on the strength of a showreel and owning a Serge ‘luv doll’. Dear me. The fella’s played in two games, we won both of them and is it always somebody has to be thrown to the floor and have his face kicked in?

There’s a couple of broader issues here, one is that some of you dummies clearly don’t understand how things have changed at Spurs. Bonzo is gone. Rose is looking increasingly set to follow him. The ‘oooh aren’t they fast club has disbanded’ and all you have left is your badge and your woggle. It’s game over dummies.

The 3 at the back thing isn’t called a 3 for nothing. It’s a system designed to provide versatility. Defensively its a system that offers 3, 4 and even 5 players to call upon. One side in the modern era that’s excelled with this is Juve.

The biggest problem Poch is having with the new shape is that he’s playing with a pair of wing backs that are drifting too far forward when they don’t have possession.

This was aggravated last night because our midfield was incapable of retaining possession and effecting a decent press. So what we witnessed on several occasions was the Cypriots teeming forwards and a lot of Tottenham players suddenly having to leap into action stations.

3 at the back is supposed to facilitate fluidity of play. But when you’ve got nonevents like Dier and the ponderous Sissoko as the ‘engine room’ the odds of you being fluid are slim.

Spurs were incapable of pressing last night because the only man they had who was truly suited to do so in our entire outfield was young Winks. Who tried valiantly but ultimately spending much of the night waving from the quicksand.

That’s why we saw naff all of the ball and when we dd get it, gave it to Kane who mostly scored yes, but had to battle like an absolute demon for it.  Route one football.

It wasn’t until Poch went berserk and started making substitutes that we started to look vaguely coherent and even then we were hugely fortunate that we weren’t playing anyone good.

Even the subs were reflected the confusion in the gaffer’s mind. He took the defensively stronger Aurier off and returned Trippier to where Trippier actually works. Yet he introduced the lethargic Llorente.

Whilst the shake up worked after a fashion, it nullified itself and revealed what was apparent to the bookies – without Eriksen, Mousa and Wanyama it’s purgatory.

So back to the 3 and one has to challenge Poch as to why he was playing such a flexible system with such miserable inflexibility.

Jesus wept, before you start digging out wing backs for not being positioned where full backs ought to be, you need to ask why the wing-backs are so far forward they were nearly offside for the first the bulk of the first half.

Look at the Juve set up (above) their wing backs when stood down (look at how deep the front are) are still inside their own half.

Pochettino tactically fluffed it last night and it’s something he needs to isolate in his brain and rectify with his coaching team before this blog and others has to suffer another brain surgeon snarling about our wing-backs being slow.

Last night was a great win, because yet again, we won despite ourselves.

Player ratings to follow.

 
Comments
  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?

  • peterballb September 27, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    Irrespective of systems, if players needlessly cough up the ball, others will be caught out of position. Trippier and Davies being up high is not a huge issue if there are two MF protecting the back 3 and if they hold on to possession of the ball. When Dier, Sissoko, and Son are giving the ball away as Trippier (and yesterday) Aurier are bursting forward, it’s pretty tough to lament them also not being back. The issue here is that we have players in the middle of the park that are just not holding on to the ball or distributing it wisely. Further, it seems to me that we rarely used the wide options. Aurier, Davies, Trippier, Walker-Peters, Rose, all have the ability to deliver excellent crosses. Constantly playing up the gut defeats the width and allows teams to pack the middle to deal with our narrow attack. Dele, Son, Erikssen, Kane all flit in and out of the middle. None are wide players and none have the pace to stretch things out where a wing-back could be that extra overlap. To that end, I would try, more and more, to get Nkoudou in there. His pace is excellent and teams do not like being run at. We make things far too convenient and premeditated for defences. Toby’s through-ball completely bypassed our ponderous midfield. Only Winks seemed to be looking wide. We need to use the who pitch. This is our Wembley issue in a nutshell.

  • Harry Hotspur September 27, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    Trev1978

    It’s the double standards that’s really the problem H. Most people will admit Aurier has been poor/a liability for the last two matches. Hopefully he will improve, do the basics, learn the role and eventually become an asset that can be relied upon-but not yet. Alli, whilst admittedly not in top form, has contributed goals and assists so far this season. Historically, he like Kane, has been a slow starter. Yet he has constantly had his ‘head kick in’ in what only can be described as some kind of vendetta recently ! There has been a long history of players this has happened to and we have usually end up worse off when they eventually leave.

    Grow a fucking brain – two matches – and you’re lighting candles.

    Dele Alli is a wanker. I’m looking forward to his International ban – when is that announced?

    • Trev1978 September 27, 2017 at 8:24 pm

      Yea that’s your job H!!!

    • Trev1978 September 27, 2017 at 8:26 pm

      Who gives a stuff about an international ban- will keep him fresh for Spurs!!!!

  • Harry Hotspur September 27, 2017 at 4:54 pm

    San Diego Spurs

    To argue that the positioning of the outside players indicates a tactical error presupposes that the players were accurately implementing their tactical instructions. Yet if you look at recent comments by Klopp, Poch and Guardiola, you can glean a sense that this is far from the case.

    The back 3 is a challenging formation that requires speed, skill and intellect. Sanchez has allowed Vertonghen and Aldeweireld chances to go forward and to utilize their passing skill. This is a partial compensation for playing our #10 as an #8-since neither Son nor Alli can pass we have a problem.

    HH, you show Juve but that’s apples to chevys. It’s Bielsa’s Chile you should be watching g to gain an understanding of where Poch is headed.

    If Poch has a destination in mind then he needs to share it with the group. Right now, many of the players haven’t got a Scooby.

  • Harry Hotspur September 27, 2017 at 4:49 pm
  • Nick September 27, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    Just the points I have made too.Aurier positionally has been a nightmare.The system has yet to work for us as well as the previous system did.We look like conceding every game,whereas last season we looked very solid.I think shoe horning Sanchez in has upset the balance slightly.Im not saying it won’t work but at the minute it’s definitely work in practice

  • TriniSpurs September 27, 2017 at 4:10 pm

    It’s simple as you say. The Dembele / Wanyama combo featured most times for us last season and we controlled things. Dier paired with anybody is not the answer.

    • McG ⚽⚽ September 27, 2017 at 4:11 pm

      Dier with Dembele season before made for a great partnership..

      • TriniSpurs September 27, 2017 at 4:14 pm

        Agreed. But that was when Dier was a ball winning hore. Since the popularity of that season, the England caps, etc., he now fancies himself a ball player and gives away possession too often.

        • TriniSpurs September 27, 2017 at 4:15 pm

          WHORE!!!! to be correct.

        • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 4:36 pm

          Has his passing % dropped? No. 87% this season so far, 87% last season and 83% the season before

          It’s funny – people will say there’s not enough creativity, Dier tries a few more ambitious passes and suddenly he’s a tart!

          • UnkleTaff September 27, 2017 at 4:39 pm

            Eric Dier is not there to be flash. He’s there to allow everyone else to do their thing — which he does exceptionally well.

            He’s the most under-appreciated player in our entire squad. If it were up to me I’d make him captain.

            • gloster1861 September 27, 2017 at 4:41 pm

              +1.

              Mourinho would snap him up.

            • TriniSpurs September 27, 2017 at 4:59 pm

              You guys are really up on your stats. If the argument is comparing Dier to Dembele as a player well enough said then. The Mousa – Victor central midefield partnership got us 2nd in a season that was more competitive than the previous one in which we finished 3rd.

              • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 5:16 pm

                the Moose/Victor partnership for 24 of the 38 games?

            • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 5:13 pm

              He’d be a great captain

    • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 4:16 pm

      The same Dier that played 48 games last season 36 in the league (our best in over 50 years) across a number of positions. Meanwhile Dembele manages 26 league games (and probably got subbed off in a fair few of those) and he’s somehow more important? I guess poor Eric was just there making up the numbers?

      • caveman September 27, 2017 at 4:26 pm

        100+%

  • Spiderneil September 27, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    I’m not a big Barkley fan. I actually don’t think he’s very good contrary to popular belief. I also think that replacing Mousa, who’s always injured with someone else who’s always injured is not a good idea. Especially at £30m…

    • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 4:10 pm

      Always injured? He missed 2 PL games last season, none the season before.

      • UnkleTaff September 27, 2017 at 4:40 pm

        Matt, I’ve told you this before — please don’t let cold hard facts get in the way of a good old witch-hunt.

    • Ronan September 27, 2017 at 4:12 pm

      Don’t see how he’s the magic ingredient to thread passes through packed, disciplined defences. If Eriksen, Dele and Kane haven’t been able to, with 70+% possession, not sure how Ross will.

      • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 4:23 pm

        That’s his game – open play assists and chances.
        His key pass per game ratio was 6th best in PL last season (behind Eriksen, Silva, KDB, Ozil, and Hazard) 11th highest at assists even though he wasn’t the first choice free kick and corner taker.

        • Ronan September 27, 2017 at 4:26 pm

          That’s his game, I know. But Everton have never faced the sort of extreme bus parking tactics we’ve been confronted with at Wembley. If Eriksen can’t find any gaps, why would Barkley?

          • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 4:39 pm

            As Poch said last night – some games you score with most opportunities like tonight, other games like Swansea and no chance get converted. We’ve been creating chances and goals will come. Personally I think Barkley alongside Dele and Eriksen behind Kane could be awesome.

  • San Diego Spurs September 27, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    To argue that the positioning of the outside players indicates a tactical error presupposes that the players were accurately implementing their tactical instructions. Yet if you look at recent comments by Klopp, Poch and Guardiola, you can glean a sense that this is far from the case.

    The back 3 is a challenging formation that requires speed, skill and intellect. Sanchez has allowed Vertonghen and Aldeweireld chances to go forward and to utilize their passing skill. This is a partial compensation for playing our #10 as an #8-since neither Son nor Alli can pass we have a problem.

    HH, you show Juve but that’s apples to chevys. It’s Bielsa’s Chile you should be watching g to gain an understanding of where Poch is headed.

  • ronwol196061🇨🇦 September 27, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    mattspurs
    We need at least one more ‘head up’ player in the squad.

    I wouldnt disagree but think having an eye for the game is mote important in creativity.
    Ill give you an example.
    Dembele is a heads up player.He is great in the immediate situation but doesnt have a long vision just a short vision and he is great at that. But we need another player who can see ehats unfolding ahead and develops relationships with the more forard players to create something.
    Only Eriksen can do some of that. But someone in Dembeles position we need to do thst but its not easy to find

    • McG ⚽⚽ September 27, 2017 at 3:49 pm

      It will be Barkley.

      • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 3:57 pm

        Hopefully and given our other signings he’ll really look like the final piece of the puzzle. Unless of course Rose is on his way out who I’d be happy to sell to United with Shaw joining us.

        • Nick September 27, 2017 at 4:16 pm

          Rose for shaw,swap ???? Shaw is toilet.If Rose goes so be it but an overweight dunderhead isn’t the replacement we should be looking at

          • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 4:41 pm

            yep – but a bit of cash too!

            Shaw is a talent, he’d excell under Poch. Who was Davies when we signed him from Swansea?

            • UnkleTaff September 27, 2017 at 4:46 pm

              Fakinel, Matt … you’re on fire today.

      • ronwol196061🇨🇦 September 27, 2017 at 4:02 pm

        I hope so.I havent really noticed him that much but should take a look more

  • McG ⚽⚽ September 27, 2017 at 3:42 pm

    Poch needs to be a little braver, and play the hand he’s been dealt imo, no more brain farts please, that’s two this season already.. We have at least won our last 6 away matches with plus 20 GD, so kudos there!!

  • Ronan September 27, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    It depends how the oppo set up. When teams are parked as deep and tight as they have been at Wembley this season, having slow wing backs is a problem. They can’t get in behind or drag more than one body out. That’s why our possession stats at Wembley surpass those in virtually any game at the Lane last season. Teams know that without walker and rose much of our threat is neutered, so long as they remain locked in position, facing the play. It’s also why our title rivals coveted walker and rose. Hopefully Aurier will ask more questions of the bus parkers than Trips has been able to, but we need Rose back asap for these type of games.

  • AccringtonSpurs September 27, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    Imagine if we have a bunch of players fit and ready for Real Madrid at Wembley and it turns out to be another San Siro night… Dortmund came close to that feeling, but what would it do for the club if we beat them.

  • McG ⚽⚽ September 27, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    Why do some players in the diagram have arrows pointing both ways, but others not? Those that have arrows pointing in one direction only must surely be hampered by these tactics? Do those with none remain static??

    • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 3:33 pm

      The Indians have surrounded them only just stated attacking?

  • Kirky September 27, 2017 at 3:22 pm

    Apoel must have got there tactics really wrong as well…!?

  • YidInExile September 27, 2017 at 3:22 pm

    No Alli and Moose means less possession, no Chrissy means less panace, we really miss rose, and last years Victor W
    Harry Kane is an absolute technician

    • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 3:25 pm

      Less pancakes ?

      • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 3:26 pm

        Less panic, gocha !

    • Harry Hotspur September 27, 2017 at 4:55 pm

      Dele Alli doesn’t do possession.

      Possession doesn’t win games it fuels excuses.

  • Camus September 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    I don’t want to ever see him play there again, but I’m struggling a bit with why Trippier looks lost at left-back. If he can use his left adequately, as a pro’ footballer he really shouldn’t be struggling with this in my view.

    I’m a lowly amateur but I can use either foot. Right foot is my strongest but I can pass, dribble, cross and shoot with my left to a decent standard. I taught myself to develop it when I was about 10 years old.

    When I play, I like to roam a bit and sometimes play CM but often will play on a flank and cut in. Left or right it makes no odds to me. Lately, I’ve been playing on the left to great success, cutting in and scoring twice with my right foot last Thursday. As a left wing-back, surely you’ve just gotta hold your line, push up when needed, and use your left a bit more to play the ball up the line etc. In essence, do what you do on the right flank but use your left foot a bit more.

    How difficult can it be for a pro’…?

    • AccringtonSpurs September 27, 2017 at 3:17 pm

      I’ve often wondered that about certain players – Lamela prime example.

      And then you get players like Kane & Sonny, who aren’t two-footed or ambidextrous but have obviously practised hard on their weaker foot to the point where it’s useful.

      • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 3:20 pm

        As a player i was amphibious but i played at Centre Half.

        • AccringtonSpurs September 27, 2017 at 3:29 pm

          amphibious?! That’s impressive!

          • Aussie in Switzerland September 27, 2017 at 3:30 pm

            Loves a wet track

            • OrganicPaper September 27, 2017 at 3:33 pm

              equally at home up a dry one too

              • McG ⚽⚽ September 27, 2017 at 3:47 pm

                His team mates called him flipper.

    • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 3:40 pm

      Many of the best players in the world have a far stronger foot. Giggs went 20 years avoiding using his right foot.

  • Trev1978 September 27, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    It’s the double standards that’s really the problem H. Most people will admit Aurier has been poor/a liability for the last two matches. Hopefully he will improve, do the basics, learn the role and eventually become an asset that can be relied upon-but not yet. Alli, whilst admittedly not in top form, has contributed goals and assists so far this season. Historically, he like Kane, has been a slow starter. Yet he has constantly had his ‘head kick in’ in what only can be described as some kind of vendetta recently ! There has been a long history of players this has happened to and we have usually end up worse off when they eventually leave.

    • Horndog September 27, 2017 at 3:17 pm

      I guess I am not most people.

      • Freund or Foe September 27, 2017 at 3:29 pm

        Me neither neither.

        • Spiderneil September 27, 2017 at 3:32 pm

          Nor me

          • McG ⚽⚽ September 27, 2017 at 3:44 pm

            Me niver.

  • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    Pochs tactical development

    Pochettino’s preferred line-up is a 4-2-3-1 but Spurs did switch to a 4-1-4-1 for their best performances and won both, with dominant displays against CSKA Moscow and Manchester City.

    The Argentinian also briefly experimented with a 3-5-2 last season in a win over Watford and he started with two strikers against Crystal Palace in August, albeit with Harry Kane playing predominantly behind Vincent Janssen rather than alongside him.

    It means Tottenham are harder to prepare for these days and Poch knows that could prove valuable against deep and defensively-minded opponents, who have often caused them problems in the past.

    He certainly shook things up with team selection against APOEL but Trippier must play on the Right, i would have played Walker-Peters but hey, what do i know ?

  • Gus September 27, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    On the subject of the boy Sanchez, he’s the real deal! Erikson, Toby, Jan and Davidson, we should cultivate a special relationship with Ajax as if we haven’t already

    • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 3:03 pm

      Like the Real one where they nick all our best players!

      • Gus September 27, 2017 at 3:12 pm

        😉😉😉

  • WitTank September 27, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    On a slightly different note I have a sneaking feeling that Kane has been looking at some Jimmy Greaves’ goals on YouTube over the close season as He has now started to pass the ball in.

    This time last year it was usually always ended in a blast.

    Brilliant, keep improving Harry ! – thats Kane not Hotspur 🙂

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 27, 2017 at 2:41 pm

    Football is a simple game. Work hard without the ball, express yourself with it. Hoping we don’t get bogged down in system merry go round. Play the players in the positions they are suited. Seems obvious.

    • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 2:45 pm

      Last night we simply didn’t have the defensive personnel – with Jan and Rose injured we lacked the extra left footed player we needed defensively for the wingback system

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 27, 2017 at 4:53 pm

        Aurier Dier Toby Sanchez Davies?

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 27, 2017 at 4:59 pm

          Sanchez is right footed I think but better that than right footed left wing back.

  • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 2:36 pm

    Fundamentally this whole wing back thing as a 3 as a 5 or a 4 is dependent mostly on one thing – width. Those two player are pretty much the widest players on the pitch. Defending and attacking they are pretty much always going to be the closest player to the sideline.

    The way Spurs make this happen is by not just playing 3 centre backs (a left footer on the left and a right footer on the right) but also having the DCM so deep that often we play a back four diamond that at any point can shift to a flat back four – this evolves as the opposition attack.

    2 things went a bit wrong last night initially …
    Trippier isn’t left footed, he didn’t overlap and overtime he got the ball he took a touch inside slowing everything down. Quite simply he’s a player who needs to play on the right to be most effective. He did very little when he got the ball on the left – one great cross on the right showed his class.
    Apoel attacked very quickly with no midfield build up meaning Dier was often slightly detached from the back 3, the wing backs were still in the opposition third. Aurier wasn’t doing anything wrong – Apoel simply took a Leicester style approach and it almost worked.

    When we changed – Dier’s positioning was the main difference as he became far closer to the new 2 at the back. The full backs also became a bit more defensive but not a huge amount and probably didn’t play hugging the touchline as the wingbacks did. Sissoko and Son played wider higher up the pitch. (Sissoko ran into the vacated RWB’s space for the second goal)

    Funny thing is I think our possession was slightly lower after we changed the system even though it yielded more goals (which goes to prove another thing HH has been ranting about in terms of possession stats being BS)

    Soon this will all be fine – Davies and Rose as LB/LWB options Davies and Jan as LB/LCB options – yesterday it was a simple matter of not having enough left footed defensive options.

    • OrganicPaper September 27, 2017 at 2:43 pm

      I agree with most of that, Mattspurs.
      What I think our gaffa needs to look at however is the fact that all of the pre-match chat about Apoel said that they are a feisty team with a couple of quick players who will try and exploit teams on the break. It took an hour and a few scares for him to make a decisive change.

    • Nick September 27, 2017 at 4:27 pm

      The wing back system is more a counterattack system & the main reason Alli & we have struggled in some games is the lack of midfield to last third space it creates in the central area.As the WBs push high the midfielders in front of them tuck in essentially narrowing the area Alli plays in.You can’t play Son & Sissoko in front of the WBs & the WBs have to restrict their surges upfield if the space isn’t there.It suits a front rotating diamond with one in the hole but isn’t working for us at the minute

      • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 5:07 pm

        Did you read what I wrote? (granted it was almost a blog in itself!) – With wing-backs you don’t play wide front players – when we went back 4, Son and Sissoko both moved wider.

        What we are doing is sometimes so complicated and sophisticated I marvel at player movement. I also get utterly exasperated at how Son and Sissoko sometimes perform so badly with all the amazing play and movement around them. Dele is off form too. Our failure isn’t the system it’s the attacking personnel.

        That said we’ve failed to score in one game this season! We’ve scored an average of over 2 a game.

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 27, 2017 at 2:36 pm

    Players immobile such as Llorenteband Sissoko further begs the question who’s choice were they? Why would poch want them when they don’t facilitate his style. All them to “facilitate” is Levy financial style. 👊

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 27, 2017 at 2:36 pm

      *all they

    • UnkleTaff September 27, 2017 at 2:42 pm

      i

    • UnkleTaff September 27, 2017 at 2:43 pm

      …f Pochettino didn’t want Sissoko why does he play him so regularly?

      • Gus September 27, 2017 at 2:48 pm

        Does he that much self belief that he thinks he can turn the sow’s ear that is sissy into a silk purse?

      • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 2:51 pm

        Sissoko is actually contributing – he set up a goal and even had a shot on target! he wasn’t the worst player either!

        • Gus September 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm

          Agreed

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 27, 2017 at 4:48 pm

        THAT is a question for the ages…

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? September 27, 2017 at 4:50 pm

          My answer would be we got naff all quality and depth in attacking midfield.

  • AccringtonSpurs September 27, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    It was the switch to 442 around the hour with the Aurier sub that allowed us to score and put the game to bed.

    It allowed us to defend and counter better, where the 3 at the back was failing to produce our usual possession.

  • BARD September 27, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    Assuming he stays and I think he will, Rose is the answer on the left. Who knows on the right. Trippier is the better passer/crosser but lacks pace. Can Poch instill enough discipline into Aurier? Dunno but he needs work.

    • Spiderneil September 27, 2017 at 3:39 pm

      I would say it’s still too early to say if Aurier is better or worse at passing/crossing than Trippier. Personally I think Aurier has shown some neat touches and passing plays that a show a vision/style of play that Triplier hasn’t shown yet.

  • PhilBealOG September 27, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    Interesting player rating from “Playing for 90”

    Fernando Llorente-6
    While I was a bit surprised the Spanish striker didn’t find himself in the starting XI today, he did put in a solid shit from the substitute’s bench.

    • BARD September 27, 2017 at 2:30 pm

      Give that man some prunes.

      • PhilBealOG September 27, 2017 at 2:31 pm

        I just hope he washed his hands afrwards

    • AccringtonSpurs September 27, 2017 at 2:33 pm

      I thought he was awful.

  • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 2:28 pm
    • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 2:35 pm

      Barclay with longer passes between the lines to Eriksen and Kane will reap huge dividends, Dier struggles at this and Winks has a way to go yet.

      • McG ⚽⚽ September 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm

        With you on that.

  • Spurs est_1882 September 27, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    The wing back option also requires a DM that will drop into the back 3 to create a back 4 until the wing backs can return. Dier was excellent at this, but now seems to be looking forward all the time, as though wanting to ping 40yrd passes to the wings. Wing backs need ball retention or cover, you cant have neither or all you have is 3 at the back and 2 knackered full backs running up and down.

    • Nick September 27, 2017 at 4:30 pm

      & Knackered Center Backs from covering the flanks vacated by the WBs

  • legendary greavesy September 27, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    Well I watched the game at 4 in the morning and seriously all the analysis and stats amount to Jack Shit ?We fffffing won away from home in the Champions league not very stylishly or convincingly but 3goals and 3 points. I respect all the points of view on here by the way !!

  • ronwol196061🇨🇦 September 27, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    Winks is a steady player not more than that..yet…
    Sissoko brought power ,a few really good passes,an excellent tackle and a couple of gpod shots to this game

  • ronwol196061🇨🇦 September 27, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    Our problem was a lack of creativity.

    • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 2:10 pm

      96 days to Barclay, you can bank on it !

    • Totspurs September 27, 2017 at 2:29 pm

      That’s exactly what me missed

    • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 2:43 pm

      Promising situations kept breaking down with Son – even Harry should have looked up a couple of times before he scored.

      I’ve developed a theory this week specially for you Ron (as an alternative to the ‘creative’ thing.)

      There are ‘head up’ and ‘head down’ players when it comes to attacking. Eriksen is very head up (as is Davies and Trippier) always looking for the runs of others – then you have head down players like Son, Rose, Aurier and Harry – they are always looking to see where they can get to with the ball, where the goal is and if they can get a shot off. Last night we had too many ‘head down’ players combined.

      • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 2:52 pm

        We need at least one more ‘head up’ player in the squad.

        • blazspur September 27, 2017 at 3:14 pm

          I completely agree.

  • ronwol196061🇨🇦 September 27, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    Sissoko was our second best player on the field

    • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 2:07 pm

      Didn’t you have Vertonghen as second best last night ?

      • ronwol196061🇨🇦 September 27, 2017 at 2:10 pm

        I gave him a 7 for not showing up
        Havent you got something better to fo you schmuck??????

        • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 2:14 pm

          Me a schmuck, how can you rate a player who wasn’t even on the pitch, did you watch the game first ? And you expect people to take you seriously !

          • ronwol196061🇨🇦 September 27, 2017 at 2:15 pm

            Good day Raz

          • mattspurs September 27, 2017 at 2:15 pm

            Just go and fo something would you

            • Mad Carew September 27, 2017 at 2:17 pm

              Agreed mattspurs

  • OrganicPaper September 27, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    Poch needs to recognise when to play the 3 and when to use the 4. That has to be based on available and competent players and also personnel. Last night t’was the personnel that should have lead us to play a 4

    • OrganicPaper September 27, 2017 at 2:07 pm

      that didnt make sense. I was hoping to include something about the opposition but repeated myself about playes/personnel.
      bah