Date: 25th October 2017 at 9:22am
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Poch said:

“Our objective is to win the Premier League, to win the Champions League.

“I would love to win all the competitions in the world but it really changes your life if you win the Premier League or the Champions League. That is the truth.”

I’m preparing myself to change my mind.

Winning a domestic pot doesn’t change anything these days. In 2017 you win either the FA cup or the League cup and it’s like you’re the socially detached guy in the library who walks up to the Enquiries desk and bellows “Good morning, do you have books containing full colour photographs of the Royal Family I might peruse?!”

It might be something you’re excited about but nobody else is and you come across – at best – as a bit overzealous.

Whereas you win a title and it’s remembered forever.

Loathe Time Sherwood? He’s a Premier League winner. You can set fire to him and throw him into sausage making machine, he’s still a聽Premier League winner.

Win the Champions League and the world reveres you.

So where does this leave us, us merry few who want a cup, any cup?

Cupping ourselves.

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Comments
  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?
  • Spurs est_1882 October 30, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    I want silverware, but until our 2nd string are good enough, we wont progress in the FA or the CL. For as much as I want a trophy, I would not swap CL qualification, CL knockout stages for it. Which is a sad testament of the day, but Europa league semi final, and an FA cup will not attract talent to move us on, regular knockout stages in the CL will. Players would rather play in the CL than win a cup when it comes to joining clubs.

  • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    If we were to play a strong team over the 4 Carribou Cup games to the Final and pick up 2 or 3 even minor injuries to key personnel which impacted on Champions League or PL Poch would be crucified for spreading the net, as he has said PL and CL are the priorities anything else is icing on the Cheese.

  • Spiderneil October 25, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    Personally I think that if we truly have made good progress as a club and a squad then a bi-product of this should mean that we have a squad that is capable of competing on all fronts. If everyone de-values these cups then shouldn鈥檛 all the teams be treating it the same? If so it becomes a case of whose alternative 11 is better than the other鈥檚. With this in mind there is a chance we could win at least one of these cups. I don鈥檛 think that anyone can deny that when it comes to at least semi final matches and the finals, the games are more often than not exciting and worth watching/playing in.

    I also think that winning a trophy would really add help players develop mentally when it comes to big games. They鈥檇 be more prepared for a European semi/final should we be able to reach one in the not too distant future.

  • Still Nil Nil October 25, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    Dimwood may have won a title but he’s certainly not revered, certainly not on here.

    The guys a cunt and will always be a cunt.

    Just with a prem title to his name.

    There are people in this world who work hard and strive to put food on the table for their families, people who work 16 hours a day and have to visit food banks.

    Some are cunts who have a sense of entitlement and have glory thrust upon them.

    Dimwood is one of these low lifes

    • One Flew Over SPURTS Cuckoo Nest 馃拫 October 25, 2017 at 1:03 pm

      Did you get the email I think I sent you?

      • danspurs October 25, 2017 at 1:54 pm

        No. I haven’t seen it spurts. Maybe you sent it to nilly instead.

    • Harry Hotspur October 31, 2017 at 12:22 pm

      Tim and Jamie Redknapp (whose wife has left him) are on the same WhatsApp group as Richard Keys and Saddam Hussein

  • Sexy Beast October 25, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    is Gascoigne gonna have a crack?
    Why is this no room for these cups? Players get more money than ever, better playing conditions than ever. The same 13 players used to play in every competition equally. Everyone in football has fallen fowl of this bizarre snobbery. Players are pussies now. That鈥檚 the catalyst. They can鈥檛 manage them all , bless their precious bank balances.

    Could this be an admission from the Poochmiester that the big spenders have deeper squads, id love to see us win one of The cups Butt if our financial restrictions mean we have to prioritise the premiership and UCL then so be it……

    • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? October 25, 2017 at 12:47 pm

      Every team is the same. I suppose City and Utd and the blue idiots are the only ones who can put 2 11’s out that can win silverware. Palace were a disgrace last night too. They just don’t value it and it results in players not turning up. The Palace fans turned up though. Its all very sad.

  • Sexy Beast October 25, 2017 at 12:35 pm

    We will win both in the next 5 years, I just hope that Hugo doesn鈥檛 give me a heart attack while I鈥檓 watching!

    • ronwol196061 October 25, 2017 at 12:38 pm

      Lloris played amazing in this last one. And his kicouts have been fantastic. Poch has been working this team.Every player has improved

      • Sexy Beast October 25, 2017 at 12:42 pm

        Agree he was fab last couple of games 馃檶

      • Gus October 25, 2017 at 12:45 pm

        By contrast, Lovren, a few years removed from Poch’s tutelage is a shadow of his former self.

        • ronwol196061 October 25, 2017 at 12:50 pm

          Yes Gus there are two things here. There is the player’s intrinsic abilities and there is the discipline within Pochs system. On the second you have to think less. You have to be able to tackle and play the high line but its a more rigid system than most in the PL. Creative players can do well outside of the Poch plan and if the are disciplined from within too. But players who play for teams where they are more individuals and the manager relys on them more,there individual judgement in their playing is tested more than within Pochs system. Lovren maybe was a good cog in Pochs wheel but maybe that was about it

  • StuSpur October 25, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    Tottenhams Oakley-Booth starting for England against Brazil in the under 17 World Cup semi final

  • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? October 25, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    Why is this no room for these cups? Players get more money than ever, better playing conditions than ever. The same 13 players used to play in every competition equally. Everyone in football has fallen fowl of this bizarre snobbery. Players are pussies now. That’s the catalyst. They can’t manage them all , bless their precious bank balances.

    • Freund or Foe October 25, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      Don’t think it’s the players fault Gazcrack. Us fans have paid the subscription fees that have made the PL and CL the ultimate goal.

    • ronwol196061 October 25, 2017 at 12:23 pm

      We are building still and while we have built a great first unit,and we have some amzaing kids coming through we are still not there yet with our bench (we could be there soon) . Other teams with pay fortunes to have a player sit on the bench and play these games. Thats not going to happen at least yet.
      What the club has done and the direction it has gone has been nothing short of brilliant considering the 40 years before that. So asking to be a City or Chelsea is not fair really. The owners go about things differently. Those other clubs work on a deficit. We have a club that can sustain itself. Thats a cup right there

      • Freund or Foe October 25, 2017 at 12:26 pm

        The ‘Haven’t Done a Leeds, Haven’t Got a Sheikh Cup’.

        • ronwol196061 October 25, 2017 at 12:32 pm

          Not easy to merchandise. Need a product. Maybe Hummous.The Tahini Tots win the Hummous Cup

    • caveman October 25, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      It’s not like what it was anymore Gaz. Players are trained at Spurs to the enth degree. Their schedule is much more difficult than it was in the 70’s or 80’s. Spurs players last the full 94/5 minutes now, not knackered at 65 mins and running around on empty for the last half hour. The Spurs coaching team are much more sophisticated than Terry Venables or, he’s doing it properly. David Pleat were back yonder. Poch and his team of coaches and back-up personnel manage the players fitness like thoroughbreds and that is so necessary to get them properly fit that they’re not in the medical room week in and week out. In Poch I trust

      • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? October 25, 2017 at 12:30 pm

        Wasn’t meaning Spurs, the whole lot is more precious it seems. I just don’t buy it that’s its harder now. At least that they cant manage to give their all in every comp. Understand the fans have chosen too like FoF said, I’d still love the cups if everyone was up for it. Fans and teams. Oh well.

        • is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? October 25, 2017 at 12:53 pm

          *just spurs.

  • mattspurs October 25, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    The last time we won a cup our two best players left within a few months.
    League title challenges and Champions League appearances make players want to stay.

    Players leaving puts managers under pressure to replace them properly (or creates friction between managers and owners) which then leads to sackings.

  • ronwol196061馃嚚馃嚘 October 25, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    For me the most important thing is the quality of our footie. Its about glory but even more so about efficacy.Its about belief and confidence. A local tin pot is something but its not that. Id rather we came 2nd in the league than winning a domestic cup and beong mid table. Yes weve seen the league lie with Leicester but that anomaly happens rarely. Its the league if sustainability or nit genetally. In the CL the prize is big and so is the competition. Sustaining a run there under the pressure of playing teams with multiple world class players is something.
    Winnibg a dimestic cup is fleeting.
    After the 60’s we barely managed that. But we do remember Ricky Villa’s majestic goal..thats what thats about. A hit. Not real sustainability.
    Ill be happy to win this cup but fir 2 seconds.
    If we win ut with kids or a hybrid team I would enjoy that but both these 2 last games
    were fantastic for us. That hopefully will last and we will give United a real game which I think we will.
    As the team moves along with success in the quality and attitude of the players..this us important and we can look to this game today and see if the bench and kids are worthy.

    • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 12:08 pm

      Dele’s game improved greatly as he played further back, helped the defensive side of his game and gave him more space to run into, he also was much more aware of the movement around him opening up the options, this should become his normal position as it still allows him to get forward as the game dictates.

      • ronwol196061 October 25, 2017 at 12:13 pm

        100%. I watched the game twice. The first time when you are filled with emotion but the second time took a look to see what Winks and Dele were doing. The first time I watched it it seemed they were good but I couldnt see the part they played in the overall scheme of things. When I looked back I saw them brilliantly holding the middle of the park. They were not too far from the back five when Liverpool had the ball and they moved up to support the three ahead of them when we attacked.They were really disciplined in the first IN the second Dele took more chances and thats when he became more noticeable but in generally that squeezed the space brilliantly with their positioning. Kudos to Poch for his plan and to those two for doing a serious job that made the counter work

        • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 12:22 pm

          only in the last quarter of the game when it was basically won did they deviate from their tasks, it shows that Dele can take instruction, Winksy is the Mutts Nuts just needs a little more strength in the tackle but a real footballers brain. Tripps is also a revolution, Kyle who ?

          • ronwol196061 October 25, 2017 at 12:29 pm

            Yep thats right Raz. I do want to see more out of Winks in terms of good thinking.Not that he isnt.Its just that when they take more chances you can see the way a player thinks and Winks is still very conservative.That shows his discipline more than his creative thinking. But in any case not every player can be a whizz.If he turns out to be a player like say Gerrard..it would be great. But Winks plays the game very well. I want to see more of what he can do. I like a player who can put a stamp on a game. Maybe Ill see it as it goes along

          • ronwol196061 October 25, 2017 at 12:37 pm

            But you are right about Deles position. With his talent and some discipline that he showed in this one.He could be that CM we need badly ….he has a great vision and talent he only needed discipline and we saw that on Sunday

        • Sexy Beast October 25, 2017 at 12:48 pm

          Dele鈥檚 highlights reel was most impressive 馃憤
          Winks is becoming a revelation 馃憤馃憤

      • caveman October 25, 2017 at 12:14 pm

        I said that last year!

  • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 11:58 am

    Sky Sports reckon Clod Paul to be new Leicester Manager

    • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 12:01 pm

      Apple spell correct is crap…….Claude Puel

      • Harry Hotspur October 25, 2017 at 12:32 pm

        League psell check is sensational

    • Freund or Foe October 25, 2017 at 12:20 pm

      I think they should give Millie Clode a go. I would.

      • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm

        I thought Nat Sawyer was the pin up !

        • Freund or Foe October 25, 2017 at 12:30 pm

          She’s my current favourite, but the list is long and broad.

          • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 1:08 pm

            You’re not Fussy Freud or Foe then !

  • LingLongMan 馃毌 October 25, 2017 at 11:55 am

    “Every time we win a European title, he [Levy] sends me the same message: ‘Congratulations for the European title you have won with my players.'”
    Gee Dans a humourless cnut.

  • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 11:54 am

    Poch has said he’ll go with First Team Squad players tonight so expect

    Vorm
    KWP
    Foyth
    Verts
    Rose
    Dier
    Winks
    Sissoko
    Dele
    Son
    Llorente

    With Dembele playing the bulk of the second half if fit. 3-1 to Spurs at the Athletic Ground. COYS

  • Freund or Foe October 25, 2017 at 11:49 am

    My Tottenham memories as a kid are mostly FA Cup based. They were the important games for me, I can honestly say I remember little about challenging for the league in the 80’s, though we did on a few occasions.
    By contrast, in the last 10-15 years it’s been all about league position, getting into the CL, and our few CL runs. That League Cup win was nice, whilst watching it and for a few days after, but our run in the CL with Bale’s heroics stick forever in the mind.
    It’s a shame, such a glorious, historical competition, especially for us Spurs fans, but that’s the way it is.

  • Legoverlass October 25, 2017 at 11:35 am

    top four is a must nowadays because of the wonga. What Pooch needs, what this team needs is to win things now to hold the squad together. Winning is a mindset that you have to carry into every match. Cherry picking which match you choose to compete in and which you don’t is a dangerous road to follow for any club in any sport in any competition. The Haribo cup or what ever it is now called is a competition that we should rotate our squad for but still fielding a side that can win in the early rounds. Get to the semi finals and bring in the big guns and nick the trophy. It can go in the cheese emporium in the new stadium where the prawn sandwich brigade can spend thousands for a ticket to admire its lustre. PS what’s a reasonable time delay for Lamela to come back so it looks like it is wasn’t a drugs ban ?

    • Caveman October 25, 2017 at 11:39 am

      One week

    • Syd October 25, 2017 at 11:45 am

      A drugs ban emposed by whom. The club, ASADA, FIFA, the PL…who? How would something like that be kept quiet?
      It’s not a bad theory but I am still wondering how anything like that (if you are serious) could be kept secret…Gladys would be all over it like a cheap suit…..

      • Syd October 25, 2017 at 11:46 am

        ASADA is the Aussie equivalent of whoever controls global steroid abuse, I didn’t know who it was.

  • SpurAndy 馃崚蟺 October 25, 2017 at 11:30 am

    Why is it that just as we get a team that’s actually capable of winning the PL suddenly the domestic cups are so ‘last year’. I suppose it’s a sign of our progress. Those years of mediocrity when even the most rabid of fans couldn’t ever see us winning the title we would have been more than grateful for a cup, any cup. Personally I’d like to win the facup or even the league cup just one more time before we completely give up on them.

  • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 11:29 am

    Cups are a distraction, Poch has his eye on the prize, best to see things his way, we ain’t got no history, the time is now, the only time that matters is now snap away at Man City’s heels and progress in Europe and Let the kids play out the Cup games.

  • melcyid October 25, 2017 at 11:28 am

    I prefer Wembley to be filled with yids,Im not up for sharing our our home ground 50-50 with glory hunters.Not having it

  • caveman October 25, 2017 at 11:27 am

    Would like to see Foyth KWP and NKoudou get a run out to see what they’re made of. They are obviously training satisfactorily when Poch keeps them involved.

    Vorm
    Foyth Toby Davies
    Trippier Sissoko Dembele Rose
    Eriksen NKoudou
    Llorente

    • caveman October 25, 2017 at 11:30 am

      Vorm
      Foyth Toby Davies
      KWP Sissoko Dembele Rose
      Eriksen NKoudou
      Llorente

  • MM444 October 25, 2017 at 11:13 am

    Would top four and the F A Cup be a failure?

    • McG鈿解毥 October 25, 2017 at 11:16 am

      Nope, not in our season of doom. We’ll d better than top 4!

    • Syd October 25, 2017 at 11:33 am

      it would be great

  • Harry Hotspur October 25, 2017 at 10:53 am

  • LingLongMan 馃毌 October 25, 2017 at 10:52 am

    COYFS!

  • JJ October 25, 2017 at 10:50 am

    I am glad you are finally coming round to this point of view. The [insert brand here] cup is pointless. The FA Cup is pointless.

    It’s a shame that is the way it is but the leage cup should have been scrapped decades ago and the FA devalued the FA Cup so badly it’s now about as desirable as being called up for England.

    By giving four champions league places to the league and none to the FA Cup it sends out the signal that winning the FA cup is worth about 5th place (5th place if one of the top 4 win the Champions league). Getting a cup for coming 5th is embarrassing.

    The idea that teams should cheer for not winning anything and aiming just for top 4 though is no longer laughable. If you don’t play champions league noone even knows who you are. Who even watches the FA Cup anymore?

    • Syd October 25, 2017 at 10:59 am

      I still believe in the history of the FA cup I’m sorry. Just look at the fan excitement at last years final. It’s history and I want it.

      • McG鈿解毥 October 25, 2017 at 11:08 am

        Me too.

  • Syd October 25, 2017 at 10:43 am

    For those still excited about posting first on each blog…I have a challenge for you…be the ‘last one’ to post before a new blog is published by HH. That’s harder.

  • McG鈿解毥 October 25, 2017 at 10:35 am

    Poch’s focus is Pl and cl, but we make the semi of the league cup having fielded weakened sides, I’m sure he’ll decide we may as well go for it. I also hope he’ll take the FA cup a little more seriously than the league cup.

  • Syd October 25, 2017 at 10:32 am

    I wouldn’t mind a cup…a trophy…anything to get me excited these days

    • McG鈿解毥 October 25, 2017 at 10:39 am

      Enjoy..

      • Syd October 25, 2017 at 10:41 am

        Thanks love….nice cup….

  • SpurAndy 馃崚蟺 October 25, 2017 at 10:22 am

    I blame the human psyche. If only we could be like the rest of the animal kingdom who have no interest in silverware. Err, except magpies that is, but don’t like them anyway.

    • The Great White Hope October 25, 2017 at 11:35 am

      It’s a long time since the magpies won a trophy.

  • danspurs October 25, 2017 at 10:16 am

    The best thing about a little pot is the squad gain experience of winning something, which makes winning the next thing less of an unknown quantity. But I’d take a sustained Pl challenge, whether successful or not, over a carabo cup win any time. Probably an fa cup too. Last two seasons have been brilliant compared to our last pot winning year.

  • gloster1861 October 25, 2017 at 9:45 am

    Isn’t Lamela’s year long sabbatical up today?

    • Harry Hotspur October 25, 2017 at 10:12 am

      His ban is up, but we’re going to wait a few more days so as to hoodwink everyone.

      • Gus October 25, 2017 at 10:42 am

        Is that why Maradona was at our place? Catching up with Eric for a few lines?

  • Harry Hotspur October 25, 2017 at 9:39 am

    My beef (which is only metaphorical as I appear to have gone vegetarian) is that it’s easy to lapse into the mental sewers of accepting a ‘small cup’ is meaningless and a big cup is out of reach so howling for joy like 6 year old when a fucking contract s extended or a world record for selling seats is broken.

    At what point did we turn into a club that perpetually competes, yet achieves nothing tangible that’s vaguely related to winning?

    • Freund or Foe October 25, 2017 at 9:42 am

      I’d love a February day out at Wembley. That sort of thing doesn’t happen every week, yaknow.

      • Harry Hotspur October 25, 2017 at 9:44 am

        I hope when we make it there again we can come up with an appropriate song to mark the uniqueness of the occasion.

        • gloster1861 October 25, 2017 at 9:46 am

          What is the theme music to Groundhog Day?

        • Freund or Foe October 25, 2017 at 9:53 am

          Spurs are on their way to Wembley
          Tottenham’s gonna do it again
          They can’t stop them
          The boys from Wembley
          The boys from Wembley

          It’s not quite as catchy as I’d hoped.

          • Harry Hotspur October 25, 2017 at 10:11 am

            Never going to work. Sounds a bit dated and not in a good way.

            • Freund or Foe October 25, 2017 at 11:13 am

              I spent hours on that.

          • McG鈿解毥 October 25, 2017 at 10:41 am

            We should sing this at every away match as a piss take!!

      • gloster1861 October 25, 2017 at 9:44 am

        February is the tenth anniversary of last league cup. It’s a long time between minor pots.

    • gloster1861 October 25, 2017 at 9:42 am

      That may be the Bald Avenger’s default position, but I really think Pochettino is out for success. He either finds that here or elsewhere.

      • Harry Hotspur October 25, 2017 at 10:12 am

        Eeeeek!

  • 61SpursNut馃尠 October 25, 2017 at 9:33 am

    Poch is wise. Harry is becoming as wise.

    • Harry Hotspur October 25, 2017 at 9:39 am

      I’ve got wisdom coming out of my ass.

      • 61SpursNut馃尠 October 25, 2017 at 10:15 am

        *teeth?

  • caveman October 25, 2017 at 9:31 am

    But your right H, winning the domestic cups is no real sign of success, it can be the luck of the draw.

  • YidInExile October 25, 2017 at 9:30 am

    Leaves Pochy with a good chance to try out the fringe boys, Foyth, Rose, GKN, KWP, and so on

  • Lord Croker October 25, 2017 at 9:29 am

    He has point. Mind you when you don’t win fak all for years then any silverware is a bonus. It matters to our history.

    • Lord Croker October 25, 2017 at 9:31 am

      Would love to see a hammering tonight and see off Bilic.

      • caveman October 25, 2017 at 9:33 am

        Billic is one of the nice guys though.

        • Harry Hotspur October 25, 2017 at 9:41 am

          St Augustine himself could manage West Ham and he’d immediately be a c*nt.

  • caveman October 25, 2017 at 9:29 am

    I want the league and european champions cup double