Date: 20th March 2018 at 1:27pm
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He who sups with the devil should have a long spoon. The trouble is, the THST used a really, really short spoon.

Martin Cloake Co-Chair, Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust just published this piece on the Supporter’s Direct website.

What is fascinating is that Mr Cloake has confessed all.

The Trust was well and truly played not just in respect of the ST pricing.

The reason that truly stings is because the only occasions this band of pompous losers didn’t look like eunuchs in a harem was in when they were bartering for ticket related concessions.

Do not mistake this for an acknowledgement of the Trust ever having done good or ever having been worthwhile. Whatever bones Levy & Co ever threw them were bones that had no intrinsic value to THFC.

Mr Cloake tells us that the season ticket pricing “…has revealed the limitations of supporter input at the top levels of the game.”

No, sweet cheeks. You see, a revelation is that something that was hitherto unknown, or unconfirmed. In the modern parlance, breaking news.

The THST has been lifting ten pound notes off well meaning and utterly misguided civilians to no good purpose for years now.

Mr Cloake closes seeking to point a finger at how the Trust had been castrated, not by the Trust’s own endless bewildering ineptitude, but by far greater sinister forces, “The need for legislation to give fans a voice in their clubs has never been more evident.”

That, is a revelation, see? Because you never mentioned that once before. What you did mention endlessly was that your were a force for good and you were achieving lots.

Disband and give someone else a go. Someone who doesn’t charge. Someone competent. The jig is up, son.

 
Comments
  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?
  • Ronwol1960-61 March 21, 2018 at 10:31 am

    I would imagine that Levy will not sell to United and would demand what Taff asks or close to it. He will squeeze United but sell to PSG if they dont come through

    • David Dillenberg March 21, 2018 at 10:38 am

      Considering that Sir Alex Ferguson once rermarked that negotiating with Levy is worse than going to the Dentist not sure the Manure Board are in any great rush to do biz me thinks!

      • David Dillenberg March 21, 2018 at 10:39 am

        *is more painful than going to the Dentist.

  • Harry Hotspur March 21, 2018 at 10:30 am
  • SpurAndy 🍒π March 21, 2018 at 10:20 am

    Sorry guys it’s the Metro so large skip of salt. Feel dirty now, need to go for a wash.
    http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/20/tottenham-set-asking-price-manchester-united-sign-toby-alderweireld-7402203/

    • UnkleTaff March 21, 2018 at 10:24 am

      The fee would be quite a simple one in my book: Rose and Alderweireld for Shaw, Rashford and Martial.

      Simples.

      • UnkleTaff March 21, 2018 at 10:26 am

        …oh, and IF it’s true that he’s demanding parity with van Dijk he can do one.

      • David Dillenberg March 21, 2018 at 10:28 am

        Recently called a cretin by your good self dream on my son! aint gong to happen so dream on. Next!

        • East Stand March 21, 2018 at 10:47 am

          Since we signed Sanchez Toby’s future has looked uncertain but the injury has just fogged the issue even further. However, however I would hold off the old “told you so” line for now…

    • SpurAndy 🍒π March 21, 2018 at 10:34 am

      Interesting how the blog generally seems resigned to losing him. There was a time when the thought of losing him was a trigger for mass bed wetting. Just proves that no one player is or should be greater than the club.
      PS. Harry Kane is excluded from this generalisation. Terms and conditions apply.

      • UnkleTaff March 21, 2018 at 10:45 am

        Harry Kane IS Tottenham Hotspur. If he goes the whole thing collapses.

        Which is precisely why he won’t be going anywhere.

  • gloster1861 March 21, 2018 at 7:42 am

    Toby is yet another player with an injury that ends up taking far longer to recover from than expected. Once they fall off Poch’s gruelling training regime they can’t get back to that level for many months. Apart from Kane, it seems. He appears to be superhuman.

    • Harry Hotspur March 21, 2018 at 8:33 am

      The injury abyss. Makes me wonder if they aren’t just seizing on the opportunity to have a few months off.

      • East Stand March 21, 2018 at 9:04 am

        Nobody would start Toby ahead of Sanchez or Jan at the moment as he’s nowhere near match sharp let alone match fit. It’s not easy at the best of times for player to get up to speed at the top level when you’ve been out so long but if Poch’s fitness requirements are particularly high then he has even more work to do.

        I said it after we signed Sanchez that unless we went to a back three that it meant Toby would be leaving. The injury hasn’t allowed that logic to be tested as a Jan, Toby, Sanchez back three has never been tried. the injury also make a new contract for Toby at this time hard to wrap up (if there was even an offer agreed).

        I’m coming to the conclusion that Toby will leave this summer, if it’s to a rival like Walker then that’s utterly pathetic from Levy…

        • gloster1861 March 21, 2018 at 9:43 am

          Certainly getting no messages to the contrary. Toby seemed to pull Verts out of his doldrums, it would be sad to lose him but now is the time to plan for the future. Including a long term replacement for Jan too. Foyth, Sanchez, plus one other? Is Mawson good enough (and is he left footed?)

          • East Stand March 21, 2018 at 9:56 am

            We need to keep Toby and push on, I’m bored with Levy’s future planning con.

            It’s been going on long before Darren Bent was seen as replacement for Berbatov ffs…

            • Camus March 21, 2018 at 10:20 am

              He’s gone, mate.
              Surprised more can’t see it.
              This is exactly how it played out with Walker.
              All the media are on this “Spurs might sell for £50mill” story now.
              Almost as though Spurs are leaking it and want a bidding war 🤔

        • David Dillenberg March 21, 2018 at 10:11 am

          2 potential replacements for Toby are Mawson and/ or Tarkowski respectively.

        • MysteriousStranger March 21, 2018 at 10:48 am

          It has been tried. We used them in a back three against Borussia Dortmund. I was there so I am pretty sure it happened.

  • gloster1861 March 20, 2018 at 11:48 pm

    61SpursNut🌰
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    Ha ha ha ha ha! Stupid Earthlings.

    • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 21, 2018 at 12:33 am

      The Theory of Negativity?

      Beam me up Pochy

      • Horndog 🇺🇸 March 21, 2018 at 5:17 am

        WTF??? 😂

      • David Dillenberg March 21, 2018 at 7:26 am

        Theory of Negativity – Do you wish me to elaborate!!!

        • gloster1861 March 21, 2018 at 7:38 am

          Be my guest.

          • David Dillenberg March 21, 2018 at 7:45 am

            ok, winning the FA Cup and finishing in the top 4 will be accomplished with consummate ease. Just checking my medication! Have a good day all.
            Back this eve.

            • David Dillenberg March 21, 2018 at 7:50 am

              My nightmare scenario is voluntarily deleted!

            • Sexy Beast March 21, 2018 at 8:16 am

              You sound calm 😳

              • David Dillenberg March 21, 2018 at 10:12 am

                Moi calm. Never!

  • melcyid March 20, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    looking forward to the traditional 3 games over easter the time when relegation issues and champions are confirmed.I know we have Cheatski but who are the 2 teams we are playing?

    • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 9:28 pm

      Chelsea A 1 April
      Stoke A

      • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 9:28 pm

        …7th April.

        That’s it!

        • Real Fan? March 20, 2018 at 10:15 pm

          But they have to reschedule Newcastle at home and Brighton away.

          • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 11:14 pm

            Indeed.

            • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 21, 2018 at 12:33 am

              At least 10 points

              • Real Fan? March 21, 2018 at 6:41 am

                Yeah, Brighton could cause us problems.

                • Sexy Beast March 21, 2018 at 8:17 am

                  Traffic on the M23? 😂

  • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    Rochdale really are shite.

    • Caspurs♿️ March 20, 2018 at 9:15 pm

      *is

      • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 9:17 pm

        The Rochdale players really is shite.

    • Frontwheel 2 March 20, 2018 at 9:15 pm

      they’re doing my bet up too

  • Nick March 20, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    If Toby can buy out his contract how comes they don’t all do it instead of throwing their toys out of the playpen? Sanchez,VVD & mahrez have all missed out on big transfers,why couldnt they buyout?

    • Sexy Beast March 21, 2018 at 8:18 am

      You gotta be over 28 and you can buy out the last two years.

  • Frontwheel 2 March 20, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    It all seems a bit bitchy in the top Totty fans league

  • Camus March 20, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    SpurAndy 🍒π
    Martinez saying that Tobes is completely fit and ready to play.
    https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham-toby-alderweireld-declared-fit-by-belgium-spurs-cross-fingers-psg-transfer-bid-a3794576.html

    Hang about… Toby’s fully fit?
    Frankly, I’m stunned 🧐
    It didn’t look at all like he was fit to play again weeks ago but being frozen out by Poch like Walker at the end of last season.
    I’d never have guessed.

    • caveman March 20, 2018 at 8:54 pm

      Toby is fit enough for the likes of Martinez. That doesn’t mean a thing as far as Poch fitness is concerned.

      • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 8:55 pm

        And Poch will be less than elated if Toby comes back with another hammy.

      • Camus March 20, 2018 at 9:02 pm

        That’ll be it 👍🏻

    • Al March 20, 2018 at 11:08 pm

      He didn’t look fit against Rochdale in the cup

  • Matt March 20, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    It’s about time we started paying the going rate. Then we could sign Sturridge, Lukaku and Ozil. And Batshuyi.

    • 💋 March 20, 2018 at 9:11 pm

      Hehe.

    • gloster1861 March 20, 2018 at 11:49 pm

      And Sissoko. No, wait…

  • Caspurs♿️ March 20, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    61SpursNut🌰
    Freezing ticket prices for the majority of seats would in all likelihood only cost the club only around £7-8m per annum (based on my fag paper equation). This is against a total annual revenue of probably in excess of £600m. Let them load the premium seats by all means but those that are on more limited budgets should be accommodated more reasonably.

    £600m + Annual revenue? I wouldn’t ordinarily question your maffs, I think that figure might be a tad optimistic. May I suggest you use a sweet wrapper, as a fag paper doesn’t seem up to the task. 😱

    • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 8:53 pm

      Well, I may have exaggerated slightly for dramatic effect. I meant to write £400m.

      • Caspurs♿️ March 20, 2018 at 9:03 pm

        You rascal, so I fell off my chair for nothing.

        • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 9:11 pm

          *Nut’s clause 283.12.39A: I accept no responsibility for personal damage as a result of falling for my guff.

          • Real Fan? March 21, 2018 at 6:53 am

            🌰💨🤮

            • 61SpursNut🌰 March 21, 2018 at 7:34 am

              There may be an exclusion.

  • PlayitagainSamways March 20, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    Ive just read some of the Toby contract comments below. I cant believe the business mastermind levy is going to fuck this up n’all. Pfft.

    How can that bald fucker get away with brazenly charging fans the going rate for a billion pound stadium whilst letting one of the best players in spurs squad leave because he won’t pay the going rate for top footballers to fill the billion pound frigging stadium, is beyond me?

    Yet again we wont crack on just as we are in a great position to do so.

    • Stevo1987 March 20, 2018 at 8:39 pm

      It just might be a case of we now have Davinson Sánchez so Tobes it’s not as if we’d miss you too much.

    • Dusty March 20, 2018 at 9:40 pm

      I agree that even Levy could not fuck this up as he must have done his homework (and I also don’t believe that Toby has an escape pay-out clause), and probably came up with the same/similar 3 scenarios below:

      Scenario 1: Toby does a Bonzo and says he wants out and Levy sells him for €50 M +
      Levy buys another new player (hopefully just as good) and pays €50 M –
      Salary paid is €90K per week over next 5 years amounts to Total €24 M –
      Total spend on new player over next 5 years = €74 M –
      Total NETT Spend by Levy = (+€50M – €74M) = €24 M –
      However if Levy was able to sell him for €75M he could then make a PROFIT of €1 Mill (+€75M – €74M).

      Scenario 2: If Levy gave in and decided to pay Toby what he wants €150K per week this would cost him – €39 M over the next 5 years. Toby would be 34 years old in 5 years time and if Levy then sold him he might get + €10 M. So NETT spend over next 5 years would be – €29 M. So if you compare Scenario 2 with Scenario 1(Nett Spend €24 M vs Nett Spend €29 M) it would cost Levy – €5 M more if he went with Scenario 2.

      Scenario 3: (The FAKE NEWS Scenario Toby has a Buy-Out Clause of €25 M). So if you were to compare this with Scenario 1, then The Nett Cost/Spend would amount to – €49 M ( + €25M – €74M). That is why I don’t believe that even someone like Levy could uck this up. Thn again I could also be wrong.

      So I believe that Levy (like with Bonzo) would rather sell Toby at a lower Nett cost to Spurs/ENIC than paying Toby what he wants and could even make a profit if he were to sell him for the same amount that Liverpool paid Southhampton for Virgil van Dyk.
      Fake News writers unfortunately don’t do the sums before publishing all the crap news they come up with.

      Like most supporters I would hate to see Toby go but as most readers below have already stated we are not doing so badly on the field without him. Players are always going to want to leave when the BIG money calls and I can’t blame Toby for wanting to move on not only for the money but also for the prospect of WINNING TROPHYS.

      • WhlSpursNhl March 20, 2018 at 11:16 pm

        I make you right.

        What will tell me how this goes is who plays in games against Chelsea [A] & Man.C [H].
        If Poch is brave enough to not play Tobes & we get a Win/draw & Win.
        Then you can bet Poch is happy to sell Tobes.
        But I personally believe he wants Tobes to stay & deal will be sorted out eventually.
        It Tobes plays International games cones back ok, I cant see how Poch won’t take that as proof that Tobes is ready for those [2 OUT OF 4 REMAINING MASSIVE GAMES] other 2 being Semi & Final.
        I would hope in the 1st 2 on Apr 1st & 14th we go back to back 3. [Tobes Sanchez & Verts].
        I’m sure most of us believe that wouldve been too good for Juve, shame Tobes weren’t ready.

        I believe we need Tobes in that team to get 2 good results against Che & Man.C

  • Matt March 20, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    Crystal Palace athletics stadium may close due to under investment. So if Levy’s offer had been accepted London would have a brilliant football stadium in Statford and a great athletics stadium at Crystal Palace. They have neither. Another example of why we should leave regeneration to businessmen like Levy, not posturing politicians:

    • Lilywhite without the ll March 20, 2018 at 7:49 pm

      and football teams to football men…

      • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 7:59 pm

        And money to money men

  • Lilywhite without the ll March 20, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    There’s being fit, and being fit for Spurs…
    Kane is fine, he signed for Hugo Boss which makes him well fit…

  • Lilywhite without the ll March 20, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    So this will make the THST next biscuit meeting very interesting I would imagine…unless of course they say nothing and eat biscuits whilst Levy shows them how the retractable pitch works in reverse….

  • Sexy Beast March 20, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    JackDLad
    Although it has been stated that Toby has 2.5 years on his contract left, and trusting that their is no contract clause (which I don’t believe their is), Levy could be running into the issue of FIFA Transfer Rules
    Article 17: Compensation
    For players under the age of 28, the protected period for their contract is three years, meaning they can buy themselves out of the contract three years after signing it. For players over the age of 28, the protected period for their contract is two years. The protected period starts again when, while renewing the contract, the duration of the previous contract is extended.
    Entitlement to compensation cannot be assigned to a third party. If a player has to pay compensation, he and his new club shall be jointly and severally liable for its payment. The amount may be stipulated in the contract or agreed between the parties.

    So it will cost £5 million to buy himself out of his contract?
    Seems like he is holding an ace up his sleeve!

    • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 7:46 pm

      It seems that way. Hypothetically speaking, if he has a buyout in his contract, should that year be added and he could leave for 25 million, Levy is caught between a rock and a hard place. Remember, I am speaking in Hypothetical’s. I don’t believe he has a buyout clause. But if this buyout clause was their, it would make sense figures wise. When Toby was bought, and this so called 25m clause was put in place, that would have been viewed as a rather high amount to pay for a player like Toby. The market has rocketed since then and Toby has overshot expectations. Also, maybe Levy thought he could update his contract and get rid of the clause without this wrangling. Again, Harry can shoot me down here and I want to say I am only speaking in hypotheticals.

      • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 8:15 pm

        No shooting, it’s just that nobody outside of the press believes buy out clauses exist at Spurs. Who knows? Maybe Levy did grant one in his entire 17 year reign. It’s not completely impossible. It just seems weird and doesn’t make any sense.

        • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 8:58 pm

          I have said that I don’t believe that there is a buyout clause, so I do agree with you! But I am just looking at the possibilities should their be. I don’t believe that Levy would allow this happen. As for buyout clauses in the prem league, Demba Ba had one in his contract and moved from Newcastle to Chelski, did he not?

          • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 9:39 pm

            I know, Newcastle and other clubs are a different ball game and we are talking spurs!

    • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 8:00 pm

      For 15 you can get Toby and Pochy

      • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 8:09 pm

        As far as I know Ron, managers do not share the same FIFA contract rules as players, teams would have to negotiate directly over Poch release fee. If you value Poch at 10m and levy does, then Toby buying out his contract for 5m and Poch going for 10m would be 15m.

        • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 8:14 pm

          Ah I see. Its a trap in Pochs case and in Tobys he has got us all by the balls

          • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 8:54 pm

            Hypothetically Ron, I did not say it was the truth. I am thinking outside the box but within the confines of the FIFA Tranfer rules. It was yourself that came up with the joint figure of 15m. I just agreed and did the math.

  • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    The missus just won 500 quids on a scratch card!! I didn’t even win it myself but I’m basking in the feeling only free, unearned money brings. Luverly. Something nice and expansive for dinner I hope, washed down with some top notch vino 👍

    • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 6:57 pm

      Haha expansive and expansive

      • AntSpurs March 20, 2018 at 7:26 pm

        Nice one, quality steak, dauphenouise tats or home cooked chips, garlic shrooms (or magic) and a quality bottle of
        chateauneuf du pape… bellisimo.

        • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 7:36 pm

          Cor, I don’t know much about wine, but I know about that lovely one.

        • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 8:01 pm

          Good stuff mate!!!
          I am a Brunello man

          • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 8:12 pm

            I enjoy a spot of Malbec. I can’t say I have had a Burnello so I will keep an open mind if I see one on he list 🙂

            • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 8:16 pm

              My son in law is a Malbec fan and scotch

              • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 8:18 pm

                Hes welsh and drinks scotch bit it could be the other way around…maybe its ronglish grammar

                • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 8:28 pm

                  Im not very cultured with wine. My mum got me a wine club subscription a few years ago and my knowledge does not really extend beyond what ever was in those cases. I

                • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 8:28 pm

                  …or granpa?

        • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 8:11 pm

          I have to wait till tomorrow of my winners meal now..not happy about it but I wont complain. Gives me a bit more chance to pick a really good place to eat!

        • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 8:15 pm

          garlic magic mushrooms! Well that would be interesting …. I remember stuffing some magic mushies under a pizza topping to disguise the taste once. All that achieved was instead of a small foul tasting thing I now had a huge slab of hot pizza that tasted foul

          • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 8:20 pm

            Its possible you just thought it did

            • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 8:30 pm

              …, man.

      • Frontwheel 2 March 20, 2018 at 7:38 pm

        Laverly

    • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 6:59 pm

      Where d’ya get those free scratch cards then?

      • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 7:03 pm

        Ah you got me there. Although she paid with her own cash and I’m going to reap half of the rewards. So I’m still well up on the deal 😁

        • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 7:08 pm

          That’s almost enough for one sixth of your season ticket, innit?

    • TyredMan 🚯 March 20, 2018 at 8:14 pm

      Chicken Dinner.

      • 💋 March 20, 2018 at 8:45 pm

        I s’pose that’s a top class meal in Oz.

  • Matt March 20, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    Toby’s position isn’t strong. It’s even weaker if Levy exercises the option to extend (because he’ll be nearly 30, injury prone and wanting 150k per week). Also, until Levy exercises that option he stays on 50k per week losing 2.5m in 18/19 season assuming we’re offering 100k. I’d say that was a very smart contract Levy signed.

    • Sexy Beast March 20, 2018 at 6:59 pm

      Yeah but Toby is being underpaid and therefor has the right to feel cheesed off, pay the man what he is worth he is the best defender we’ve had since Ledly.

      • Matt March 20, 2018 at 7:06 pm

        I hope we keep him. Brilliant player. Thing is, he’s worth what the market will pay him and I suspect no one will pay an injury prone 29 year old 150k after shelling out, what, 45m? I reckon market worth is about 100-110k. Tops. Pay him that, hence I suspect a bit of arm wrestling till we all agree.

    • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 7:03 pm

      Toby can take the position to buy himself out of the remaining 2 years of his contract if he wishes. This is stated in FIFA transfer rules. He is over the age of 28. What you will find is, the club that wishes to buy him (and tapped him up) will pay the money to him in wages offsetting the money he pays out of his pocket to sever his remaining contractual years with us. It is an available option to him!

      • Matt March 20, 2018 at 7:17 pm

        I was unaware of this rule . I would say this makes my post utter bollox.

        • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 7:22 pm

          Not at all, your point is your point and you are entitled to make it! If you look down the blog a bit, I have posted the law if you wish to read it. In my opinion, Levy and Toby are posturing. Toby holds this card up his sleeve.

  • Melcyid March 20, 2018 at 6:40 pm

    I have seen the above artwork from time to time since I was a kid and it is disturbing to me.hee bee gee bees

  • Lilywhite without the ll March 20, 2018 at 6:36 pm

    My son is doing Room 101 public speaking at school and has picked Arsenal……such a proud day for me…

    • Melcyid March 20, 2018 at 6:42 pm

      Hope it is a thorough and In depth exposure

  • UnkleTaff March 20, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    To be fair, when you see this from the second angle…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43472827

    • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 5:41 pm

      Dele needs lessons from him!

    • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 5:45 pm

      VARkinel.

    • AntSpurs March 20, 2018 at 6:06 pm

      What the heck did Colo Colo do to deserve that.

      • AntSpurs March 20, 2018 at 6:07 pm

        That’s a culo culo decisions

  • SpurAndy 🍒π March 20, 2018 at 5:23 pm
  • melcyid March 20, 2018 at 5:20 pm

    if as it has been suggested that Toby is just getting up to scratch after the bad injury then it will be great to have him back.But if there are shenanigans and malarkey going on to get a move then he can FRO.i he doesnt want to play for us we dont want him here stinking the place out and drawing ,simples endov

    • 💋 March 20, 2018 at 5:31 pm

      I had no idea Toby could draw. How delightful.

      • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 5:34 pm

        Does not shower after the games either, stinky fellow!

        • melcyid March 20, 2018 at 5:43 pm

          if true

    • AntSpurs March 20, 2018 at 6:11 pm

      👍🏻In totes agreements.

    • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 6:14 pm

      How about F LEFT off ???

      • AntSpurs March 20, 2018 at 6:16 pm

        That makes him a write off

        • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 6:17 pm

          THFC is a write off

  • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 5:19 pm

    Although it has been stated that Toby has 2.5 years on his contract left, and trusting that their is no contract clause (which I don’t believe their is), Levy could be running into the issue of FIFA Transfer Rules

    Article 17: Compensation
    For players under the age of 28, the protected period for their contract is three years, meaning they can buy themselves out of the contract three years after signing it. For players over the age of 28, the protected period for their contract is two years. The protected period starts again when, while renewing the contract, the duration of the previous contract is extended.
    Entitlement to compensation cannot be assigned to a third party. If a player has to pay compensation, he and his new club shall be jointly and severally liable for its payment. The amount may be stipulated in the contract or agreed between the parties.

  • Nick March 20, 2018 at 5:01 pm

    Is the real argument with Toby that he doesn’t warrant a pay rise or has he burned his bridges now ? Also with the price of Season Tickets increased & the number of seats available increased can Levy Keep saying that we can’t pay up for big wages?

  • melcyid March 20, 2018 at 4:40 pm

    when I was about 11 or 12 yrs old I joined the supporters club,I was just thrilled to bits to have my name down on a bit of paper with spurs logo at the top. That didnt last long though when I grew up a bit and started to have a mind of my own. Waste of money I told myself.

    • melcyid March 20, 2018 at 4:42 pm

      I thought the supporters club badge was a bit tasty though.

      • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 4:52 pm

        It was…I saw that one on e bay was tempted to buy it

    • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 4:58 pm

      In 60/61 I used to go with my uncle to all the away games. We bent by coach and our drivers name was Jock. He was a real Dave Mackay typ and used to drive up the M1 at full whack even in the thick fog.
      There were two sisters very old even then Gert and Daisy that took up the front window seats. My uncles name was Moe and they called me little Moe.
      It was a tulmultuous season.
      Aggghhhhhh!!!……

      Do it again my sons!!!!

      • 💋 March 20, 2018 at 5:28 pm

        Did your uncle have siblings? Were ghey called Eeny, Meeny and Miney?

        • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 6:16 pm

          You dont want to meet Meeny. Miney was rich and Eeny…well he had a problem

  • coys1882 March 20, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    Toby has been a great player for us, but at 29 he is not negotiating from a position of strength, having been injured for months and making a less than stellar impression upon his return against Rochdale in the F.A. Cup. If he won’t budge on 180,000 euros p.w. then it is better to sell, preferably outside the EPL and get in a top quality replacement, a la Davinsson Sanchez. Alternatively use him as a bargaining chip to acquire a player we want in another position, like Martial from Man Utd.

    • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 4:51 pm

      I agree that Toby has been great for us. His injury at his age is a very serious one and long term his mobility and speed will start to be called into question. If he is not brought back right (and even if he is) we could have a Vincent Kompany on our hands (out every few weeks). Contract wise, I don’t in anyway think there is a clause in Tobys contract as it would go against everything we know about Levy. It was stated earlier in the year that Levy had reassured Poch that Toby had 2.5 years left on his contract. If this is true, let him run it down and if his injuries persist, it is no big financial headache and we will have the best years out of him. If he is sold in the summer, we will bring in someone that will mature into his position. We are doing alright at the moment without him IMO!

  • Bruxie March 20, 2018 at 4:30 pm

    It’s going to cost £40m+ to replace Toby.

    How much is he asking?
    A 4 year contract @ £150k until he’s 33 would amount to £31.2m.

    We already pay him circa £60,000 per week which = £3.240m per year.
    £6.480m over 2 years left.

    The new contract would be a mere additional £25m taking into account existing spend.

    Who do we want..?

    Mawson or Toby?

    I’ve got too much time on my hands.

    • Aussie in Switzerland March 20, 2018 at 4:51 pm

      Different pots of money….let me explain…. I was sacked, but the project keeps contractors who cost 3200 CHF per day….

      • Bruxie March 20, 2018 at 5:29 pm

        That explains everything.

        • 💋 March 20, 2018 at 5:30 pm

          If by ‘everything’ you mean ‘nothing’, I agree.

          • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 5:39 pm

            Yes, I completely agree that the sense that is being made is understood and nonsensical, it clears everything right up! Really common sense when it comes down to it!

            • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 5:44 pm

              • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 5:50 pm

                You cracked that Nut!

            • Aussie in Switzerland March 20, 2018 at 5:45 pm

              I believe they do accounting courses at evening college

              • richspurs March 20, 2018 at 6:06 pm

                Amazing. That tallies up to exactly 180 000 smackeroos.

  • TheCincinnatiYid March 20, 2018 at 4:11 pm

    If Toby must go please sell outside the Premier League. It was abominably stupid to sell Walker to Man City. The optics are bad, the results are worse.

    How stupid does Kevy think the players are?

    • TheCincinnatiYid March 20, 2018 at 4:11 pm

      Levy

    • UnkleTaff March 20, 2018 at 4:17 pm

      Doesn’t the player himself have a say in where he wants to go?

      • TheCincinnatiYid March 20, 2018 at 4:21 pm

        Yes, but he is not the only one. As I recall at one point Modric was interested in a PL team (Chelsea?). Levy in his inimitable manner refused to look there and rat faced boy went to RM. Much less painful for us, and I suspect for the players most of whom never saw him again, instead of having to watch Bozo exulting in win after win and hoisting pot after pot. It’s just not a good situation.

  • Sexy Beast March 20, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    Bruxie
    Weak bladdered pussies.

    Also know as Squirters ☔️

    UnkleTaff
    I’m firmly in the “if he goes, he goes” camp. It’s not as if we’ve struggled without him so far this season.
    Vertonghen, on the other hand…

    Toby is an absolute beast (and I know my Beasts) of a defender, in those games decided by the smallest of details he makes the difference. Losing him will not be good don’t matter how you dress it up 👎

    • UnkleTaff March 20, 2018 at 3:45 pm

      “Also know as Squirters.”

      Didn’t they come up with the idea for the Guiness Book of Records?

      • 💋 March 20, 2018 at 3:52 pm

        I think you’re referring to the Scottish branch of the family.

        • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 3:53 pm

          Norris and Ross?

    • cabspur March 21, 2018 at 12:12 am

      I agree he does make a difference and we would still be in the champs league if he was fit.He would also make Sanchez better faster.Dream back three with Verts and Sanchez,,also we miss his long pinged balls out of defence as well as being a danger from corners. He is always in the right place at the right time doing little but organising everything.

  • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    I got through alright Bruxissimo – until the ****s delete it!

    • Archibald March 20, 2018 at 4:20 pm

      Shouldn’t the tick box on their comment form say “I’m a robot”? Seems more apt to their target audience

  • Nick March 20, 2018 at 3:12 pm

    So alderweireld fully fit say Walker all over again.various hacks suggesting £40m upward.If VVD goes for £75m Tobes must be in that bracket?

    • UnkleTaff March 20, 2018 at 3:16 pm

      I’d take that. It’s not as if he’s any good anyway…

  • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    Bruxie

    I put this link – to Cloake’s article – and described him as “not a biscuit eater”.

    I suggested that his article should have been the conduit to THST’s proactive strategy for the Club’s ticketing plan.

    I still await moderation.

    You will not get approved. They are terrified of me. We’ve met and know the only terrifying thing about me is my dress sense !

  • UnkleTaff March 20, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    I’m firmly in the “if he goes, he goes” camp. It’s not as if we’ve struggled without him so far this season.

    Vertonghen, on the other hand…

    • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 2:47 pm

      Yup

    • Camus March 20, 2018 at 2:51 pm

      So we’re now in the “Toby wasn’t any good anyway…” stage of denial.
      Carry on.

      • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 2:56 pm

        I detect a mischievous misinterpretation here.

        • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 3:09 pm

          Yup

  • Grant March 20, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    Spurs are not responsible for people’s life style choices.
    Why should the club sell at a lower market price just because people choose to commit their money elsewhere, families etc.

    club has to get the money from somewhere to conpete

    • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 2:41 pm

      I’m more irresponsible than any a ya…

    • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 2:47 pm

      conpete? he is conning more that pete mate 🙂

      Trouble is with your rational, our high ST prices should somehow instantly convert into winning pots? Market forces are indeed at play but this is not a good value proposition from the club. We dont win nuffink.

      Few markets are similar to the highly emotive world of football. We are fans aka fanatics. Fanatics dont always follow the same pattern of logic they do in other more benign industries. So people will pay and will stretch themselfs beyond their means which is a shame.

    • Tg March 20, 2018 at 2:59 pm

      Agree. Did people think that a stadium that cost 3x the cost of the Emirates was going to have cheaper season tickets.
      They were that price for a reason.
      You are all expecting Spurs to still buy players and pay for a billion pound stadium.
      Where does the money come from tv and us.

      • 61SpursNut🌰 March 20, 2018 at 3:41 pm

        Freezing ticket prices for the majority of seats would in all likelihood only cost the club only around £7-8m per annum (based on my fag paper equation). This is against a total annual revenue of probably in excess of £600m. Let them load the premium seats by all means but those that are on more limited budgets should be accommodated more reasonably.

        • Aussie in Switzerland March 20, 2018 at 5:20 pm

          I thought the Guardian was the fag paper

          • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 5:23 pm

            You smoke a cigarette while reading it?

            • Aussie in Switzerland March 20, 2018 at 8:00 pm

              Only during the mating season

  • killer cushion March 20, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    poch said publicly this season that levy told him ‘not to worry’ about toby… and that he had ‘two and a half years’ left on his contract.. i suspect there is no 25 million buy out clause

    • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 2:37 pm

      phew..glad thats settled then 🙂

  • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    Storm le Bastiile!!!!

    • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 2:34 pm

      FIIIIIIIIIIIIIX BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHYONETS!

  • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    It does baffle me how anybody, not least the supporters trust, can be surprised by the ST pricing policy. What about ENIC’s commercial behavior up to this point, or glossy tunnel club cheese wanking pictures have made them feel they were going to freeze or reduce ST prices? Yes they froze the ST prices for a couple of years at WHL but any halfwit could have guessed that was a cheap ploy to keep the heat off until the new place was ready

    ENIC doubled their debt finance facility (http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/club/announcement/club-announcement-new-stadium-scheme-financing-310517/) last year. Its on track to be a billion £ stadium and it isn’t getting paid for out of DL or JL’s own pockets.

    Dont read my comment as some form of justification, I dont agree with the pricing even if Im not a ST holder myself. It just winds me up that the THST have been so willfully ignorant about who they are dealing with

    • Bruxie March 20, 2018 at 2:28 pm

      +1

    • gloster1861 March 20, 2018 at 2:33 pm

      An efficient capitalist balances supply and demand. In other words, what he market can bear.

      If the price is too high, you don’t sell all your goods. If there is more demand than goods, you’re not squeezing the punters hard enough.

      Ronwol knows.

      • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 2:36 pm

        Indeed Glos. DL may well have a philanthropic side to him but its not the side he shows us supporters.

        I would say DL is more therianthropic than philanthropic!

        • gloster1861 March 20, 2018 at 2:38 pm

          When Daniel looks at the new prices he is priapic!

          • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 2:39 pm

            ugh what a horrid thought

        • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 2:40 pm

          Ge may well give back to charity. Religious law says that figure is 10%

          • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 2:40 pm

            Does he give to the THST I wonder?!

      • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 2:37 pm

        100%
        The people have a choice too.
        The price would come down quickly or it wont.
        If the product is right it will sell.

        Look at the Vatican. Who paid for it? What did the people buy?

        • ronwol196061🇨🇦 March 20, 2018 at 2:39 pm

          Religion knows. Make it exclusive,preach its for the people and BUILD UP!

    • Sexy Beast March 20, 2018 at 2:44 pm

      They sound like a well meaning bunch of idiots who are well out of their depth 🤨

  • UnkleTaff March 20, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    Harry Hotspur
    Look, if Toby goes he goes.
    Mark Bannerman knows less than my fucking dog does about this.
    This prick has been pushing the ‘buy out’ clause fairytale for the last six months.
    Less fake news, more no news whatsoever.

    Virtually every news outlet is trotting out this “£25m buy-out clause if he signs” line.

    I find it very hard to believe that Daniel Levy would have agreed to such a deal (he certainly has never done so in the past).

    So what’s the truth of the situation, does anybody know?

    • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 2:25 pm

      General public has no idea, Daniel and Co. know. It is completely un-Danielesque though! Danny is the highest bidder and then your left nut type of fella!

    • Camus March 20, 2018 at 2:27 pm

      If he doesn’t play again this season unless Jan or Sanchez get crocked, I’d get Poirot on the case, m’lud…

    • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 2:29 pm

      I have it on good authority that Toby is going to sign a bumper new deal to keep him in lillywhite until he retires.

      OK not good authority, or any authority really. I made it up.

      Fact is only Levy and Toby really know the ins and outs about any clauses. Sadly we will just have to wait and see

      • JackDLad March 20, 2018 at 2:34 pm

        Are you the lead hack in the sun? You have it on good authority, well not really good authority, actually I made it up! If you do not work for the sun, send your CV immediately! You tick all the boxes. LOL

    • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 2:35 pm

      He.
      Don’t.
      Do’em.

    • Bruxie March 20, 2018 at 2:36 pm

      I don’t think the £25m buyout clause comes into operation until Spurs trigger the one year contract extension.

      End of season stand off.

      We should look at this as “how much would his replacement cost?”…and act accordingly.

      In other words “give him the money or sell if he won’t agree”.

      • UnkleTaff March 20, 2018 at 2:40 pm

        I don’t think this buyout clause exist in any form at all. It’s about as un-Levy like as it’s possible to get.

        • Camus March 20, 2018 at 2:50 pm

          If you talk to me about oranges, I’ll digress onto whether marmalade is on the menu at Harrods.
          #ModernDebate

  • Bruxie March 20, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    I put this link – to Cloake’s article – and described him as “not a biscuit eater”.

    I suggested that his article should have been the conduit to THST’s proactive strategy for the Club’s ticketing plan.

    I still await moderation.

  • Still Nil Nil March 20, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    I can’t buy a season ticket even if I wanted to because I’m not a spurs member and refuse to become one simplyvto pay the club money to wait years in line for the opportunity to buy a ST.
    Buying a place in the queue is unethical just so the club can say ‘we’ve this many club members’ or ‘that many fans’ basically saying to other clubs ‘my penii is bigger than your penii’

    • gloster1861 March 20, 2018 at 2:29 pm

      Why
      the penii?

      • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 2:36 pm

        Plural of penis. May contain peanuses.

    • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 2:32 pm

      Im a member but not in the hope of being a ST holder some day. It does allow me to buy the odd match day ticket and got me my first NLD experience this year.
      I agree its a liberty to have to do it but tis the only way Id ever get ‘reasonable’ tickets without using a tout

      • Still Nil Nil March 20, 2018 at 2:40 pm

        Not having a pop at those becoming members, having a pop at the way the club earn extra pences out of its support

        • OrganicPaper March 20, 2018 at 2:53 pm

          i know my teat is being milked by a bald weirdo….

  • Camus March 20, 2018 at 1:53 pm

    Toby update from Freelance football writer Marc Benamram.
    This matches other ‘ITK’ I heard weeks ago but, as always, don’t shoot the messenger.

    “Not sure why people are only starting to panic about Toby Alderweireld today….

    Writing has been on the wall since his backtracking over a new deal….

    #THFC won’t meet demands and have offered a take it or leave it offer.”

    https://twitter.com/MarcBenamram/status/976071767625273345

    • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 1:56 pm

      Look, if Toby goes he goes.

      Mark Bannerman knows less than my fucking dog does about this.

      This prick has been pushing the ‘buy out’ clause fairytale for the last six months.

      Less fake news, more no news whatsoever.

      • Still Nil Nil March 20, 2018 at 2:01 pm

        His surname is the theme tune to the muppets
        Maybe there’s a link there

        Bannerman do do dado do
        Bannerman do do do do
        Bannerman do do dado do
        Da do do
        Da do do do do doo

        • Aussie in Switzerland March 20, 2018 at 5:23 pm

          I tell my Muslim mate every year “Ramadan, do do do do”

  • Mattspurs March 20, 2018 at 1:49 pm

    Looking at the sales so far there seem to be a lot of rich Spurs fans out there with loads of the more expensive seats going first – people also seem keen on sitting near the gangways.

    • Bruxie March 20, 2018 at 2:04 pm

      Weak bladdered pussies.

    • Still Nil Nil March 20, 2018 at 2:10 pm

      Then they moan when the people in the middle want to walk past making them stand up and sit down regularly

      • gloster1861 March 20, 2018 at 2:25 pm

        Good point Nilly.

      • Harry Hotspur March 20, 2018 at 2:36 pm

        Hahahaha spot on.

  • DAVID March 20, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    The trust have no weaponry : all cloake and no dagger.

    I’ll get my pac a mac.

    • UnkleTaff March 20, 2018 at 2:16 pm

      If you wouldn’t mind…