The Cat’s Pyjamas

The Cat’s Pyjamas

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A tough game. A tough game that we won. A tough game that we deserved to win.

West Brom weren’t very nice. We knew that they were likely to be organised and physical enough but they really cranked up the not very niceness. There was the spitting that rightly drew a red, but more over there were a lot of pretty hairy challenges being dished out. On balance, Clatternburg had a good game.

The loss of Defoe is nothing shy of a blessing. There, I said it. Adebayor returns and with any luck we’ll get a big fat slice of what he was serving up last year. You might recall all those goals, there were 17 of them and I think 11 assists in the league alone. I know some of you can see into the future and will fervently assure the rest of us that this cannot and will not happen, but hey. Let’s wait and see, shall we? You don’t mind if we wait and see, do you, do you?

Hugo The keeper Slur Alex should have bought. Have I said that already? Well it’s still true. He appears to be pretty bloody marvellous. I’m struggling to think of anything he got wrong and for good reason. The bonus here is that his willingness to get off his line has, I am convinced, already saved us at least 2 0r 3 goals this season. You build a team from the back. He’s a damn solid place to lay a foundation.

Bonzo ‘Mr Walker, I notice that you and Mr Naughton both share the same first name, Kyle.’

‘We are not related, sir.’

Sir Les Was it just me or did he lose out on every header and have a bit of a nonevent generally? Without being unkind, I would have thought this would have been quite up his street yet he appeared to not quite be with it. We were lucky that Lukaku was subbed because every time he broke it looked like trouble. You know why? Because it was trouble.

Jan the manClearly happier with Gallas next to him and who could blame him?

Benny Another symphony of stinkers. A&E 2.0 ain’t the half of it. Early on he hit a pass up the left wing it was so poor he grinned with embarrassment. Sadly this was merely an amuse bouche before the main course of mediocrity. Get Naughton back in there and get this guy out on the training pitches and get him focused.

Scotty Parker The usual Victoria Cross before breakfast class of performance. Some don’t understand the pressure he’s under and so fail to appreciate exactly what he achieves every single game, without fail. Mind you, there are some who still didn’t grasp how important Modric was because he didn’t score lots of goals.

Moussa This was a good enough game, but not one of his best. He seemed a little slow, a little off the pace. Don’t get me wrong, it was a decent enough shift, I just thought he might have hurt someone like a West Brom a little more than he did.

Azza BludNaff game. Didn’t do much and seemed to keep out of the way. Maybe I missed the subtlety of it all. Maybe his off the ball contribution was textbook. He’s a player, when at his best, sparks exciting plays. He draws defenders, fizzes and pops. This was a pedestrian outing.

DempseyDon’t worry my old son. Ade is on his way back from Africa and soon the whipping boy mantle will be lifted and handed to another poor bar steward who doesn’t deserve it either. Demsey hate is tad tedious. He’s not the world’s greatest. I don’t believe anyone ever claimed he was. On his partnership with Defoe …can anyone in the congregation name me someone who has had a memorable footballing partnership with Defoe?

BaleAn incredible goal and a performance that actually saw him making a defensive effort on more than one occasion. The earlier free kick drew wolf whistles, but it wasn’t far away at all. Quality performance that adds weight to the argument he ought to be allowed to roam.

HoltbyThe bees knees. The cat’s pyjamas. The caterpillars spats. The… he looks like what you might imagine Van Der Vaart looked like when he was about the same age and still had hamstrings that worked. His delight in the Bale celebration was brilliant. More please.

We can finish third this season. I’m calling it.

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About Harry Hotspur

“What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. Apart From West Ham. They are absolute toilet"

415 comments

  1. Allowed to Roam, that’s a start i suppose !

  2. Fair enough analysis, but what I’m very suprised about is that you feel it’s a blessing that Defoe is injured. Surely having one CF of note at the club to pick from is a disaster – as was going into the season back in August with only Defoe and Ade.
    I’m not a fan of Defoe, but we are one injury away from a complete derailing of our striker options. I know that you were against signing a forward unless they would add the requisite quality to our squad – and I fully agree. However, I’m hoping that those that were mocked for suggesting there were CF’s available that could and should have been approached during both the summer and winter transfer window, can also be acknowledged as having justifiable concerns.
    The Leandro thing IMO was BS – we should have had someone in the first week of January. Perhaps the truth is we haven’t the finances, but I think it can be viewed as a lack of ambition and in the worst case stupidity.
    I hope that Ade and Holtby form a good partnership and stay injury free, and that Levy and co address our weaknesses rather quicker next time.

    • No, no. It’s definitely a blessing. I’m sure that’s exactly how AVB sees it too.

    • Oooh I know we went into the season as the only team with 2 strikers and as a result were mid table by christmas. Now we have missed out in January unlike other years when we brought in strength like saha we could well be relegated.

      hope holtby and ade partenership goes as well as the VDV ade partnership though How many goals did they score between them last year? think ade got 17 or something which is Ok if he can nock in 8 to 10 in the last 13 it wuld be very nice indeed.

      still if ade, holtby bale, lennon, dembele parker, vertonghen and Lloris get injured I think we may struggle

  3. I think Adebayor getting injured would only enhance our chances of a top four finish. You need to think out of the box.

  4. more digs at our players i see! you and your sidkicks are pathetic! the scum have more class than you lot!

  5. All I want is a team of Gareth Bales…..

    Yesterday’s roamer will soon be tomorrows centre forward. Holtby or Dempsey moved to the left I guess….

  6. Up to your usual Defoe bashing I see. I hope for the club’s sake you are right but think you will be disappointed with Ade.

  7. I agree with Defoe’s injury.
    Hopefully a week or two or three of rest will help him back to a couple of months ago.
    We have recalled Harry Kane, so if we are so very much screwed for options, there is him too…
    We have a couple of weeks of really tough games. But as always I confident we can do well!

  8. If buying a top class striker was the same as buying a packet of pasta then I could understand the bitching and whining but it aint! Finding the right striker at the right price who is willing and available is tough! these people that want to buy someone anyone and pay what ever it takes need to grow up! They are like children that want to but for the sake of buying and can see no further than the next packet of sweets. If you want to buy a house, you have a budget and a set of criteria, and you work within those. If you need 4 bedrooms you don’t but a 1 bed flat and if you only have 500,000 you don’t spend 1 million, both courses of action would lead to disaster! So you lot out there with your buy buy buy, I just wanna buy, attitudes, just grow up and give a rest FFS!!!!!

    • A superb post. I wish you could have shouted this out will 90% of our away fans were shouting “WE SHOULD HAVE SIGNED A STRIKER”. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

      • Ah, the famous mustardy away fans that HH likes to eulogise so much.

        • Ironic away fans by all accounts!

        • LLL, you demanded proof of the Brian McDermot quotes the other day, yet are happy to casually accept an apocryphal account without hesitation. At least you’re not stark raving mad. That’s the main thing.

          • As you will notice, I’ve happily seen that corrected by Bruxie of all people. The torygraph most likely had it wrong. Not for the first time. But isn’t it good when people can offer clarification and context and we can aim towards a purer truth? Isn’t that a blessing?

            • For me there was no irony from the our away fans at all.
              It was done as Defoe was taken off the field.
              A lot of our fans do believe we should have bought a striker. Their minds, their decision.
              I think personally we would have paid over the odds at the worst time to buy. I just think these things dont help whilst a game is on.

              Just because we sung this though it doesnt make our fans not “mustard”. Our away support is exceptional. We always outsing the home fans. Going to away matches is far more entertaining then home games.

              • Don’t know, wasn’t there, take your word for it, even if HH wants corroboration from Brian McDonut. My views on the striker issue are, ahem, well documented. Seems I’m not alone by any stretch. Although singing negative songs to the board during matches, I also agree isn’t too clever, though can also understand to the extent that what other opportunity do the fans have to express their voice?

                • I’m sorry, i must have missed them. What are your views on the striker situation?

                  • Well I think we are ticking along quite nicely actually, that strikers are overrated and and think that if only Ade would take a knock too then we’d finally be in a really blessed position.

                  • Cluck click cluck!

                  • LLL for soemone that uses irony you seem immune to it when used by others,

                    you also fail to

                    Oh I give up, I hope you continue to enjoy your misery of being a spurs supporter and suffer much indignation with comments from the chairman and management

                  • Are you being sarcastic untidy?

                  • SpurredoninDublin

                    The more I see of this “We don’t need a striker” talk the more mystified I am becoming.

                    I acknowledge that I am an intermittent visitor here, but apart from having the words put in their mouth, can anyone actually identify somebody who said something along the lines of, “We don’t need to sign a striker”.

                    The more I think about it, the more I find it hard to believe that there were people amongst us that were completely satisified with what we have already. My usual experience here is that if we signed 10 Gareth Bales, we will always think there is room for another 12 of the same.

                  • Hello cutie pie. As I responded to you last time out – indeed, HH himself said this, and even saw fit to title a blog ‘We don’t need a striker’, around a week or so ago. Glad to be of service.

                  • Personally i haven’t committed myself to either camps arguments because i can see both camps points of view on the subject matter. Ultimately we won’t find out who is right/wrong until May.
                    So i ‘ve decided to do my best impression of Trevor Brooking and sit this one out on the fence.

                  • Coming over a bit LibDem, Bill?

                  • SpurredoninDublin

                    @Billy Legit

                    I think you misunderstood the question. What I was asking was who had actually said “We don’t need to sign a striker” or similar.

                    It turns out that so far, one person made the comment, and when you read the whole article, it is quite clear that the comment was taking completely out of context.

                  • Haha, you didn’t specify which context you wanted it to appear in. Hahaha. Too funny

                  • Someone has to. No one else will.

                    Wink

                  • That last reply was a response to………..oh, i give up.

                  • Haha, it was the facking TITLE of the blog, and yet I’m taking it out of context. Overjoy

                  • Yeah, I got you on that Billy. Or should I say, Mr. Clegg ;-)

                  • I’ve never been so insulted before in my entire life. Words hurt LLL, some words hurt a lot Cry

                  • SpurredoninDublin

                    @Billy Legit 9.46

                    It is difficult to believe that there can be someone that stupid that can be given access to a computer.

                  • My 9.46 post was in response to LLL’s 8.11 post.

                  • Okay, maybe that was a little harsh. Can I call you Simon Hughes instead? Happy-Grin

                  • No. I’m still mortified by that Cl*gg remark & SpurredoninDub’s 9.58 post. There’s a tub of Haagen-Daz with my name on it Cry-Out

                  • You mean to tell me Haagen Daz have brought out a new flavour ice cream called Nick Clegg?

    • name another squad with 1 striker. You well argued but infantile proposal that those of us who wanted another striker because of our must buy attitude undermines any point you may have hoped to make and shown you to be a fakwit. How many players in our squad have we bought ?
      How many players have me lost money on ?
      How many players did we make money on?
      You get backto the gardens pal and carry on planting out your player seeds. By the time your grown up 1 or 2 of your seeds may have popped up.
      Clown.

  9. The Sun called Bales performance “A Master Class”. A tad over the top me thinks.A little greedy I thought.
    I wonder what superlative they would then have to use when Messi bangs in 4???
    Absolute cracker Bale scored though (much tension lifted in the away end) and he is our out ball most of the time but a few cut backs or passes not smashed acros the goal at 100mph may have lead to a couple of assists for the boy bale. Dempsey and Lennon looked most frustrated at times due to his greed.

    Parker better yesterday but still more loose passes than anyone else.
    I have stuck up for Dempsey more often than not on this site so must admit when hes had a bad game. Yesterday was one, but I despair at the way he has become the team scapegoat.
    Lloris looks immense. Holtby the player we have been crying out for.
    3 points on Staturday and I might just start believing.

  10. Holtby. Blimey, this lad can play and wants to play. This guy is brave, full of guile and keen to be involved. This is someone who we can build a team around. And maybe even a future capt. Home debut this weekend.

  11. Defence of Dempsey ‘whipping boy’? Strange approach from the guy that has led the Walker hate campaign.

    • See below MH. I didnt put Reply….

    • Walker’s an imbecile. Does pointing that out preclude being kinder to other players? Are you 10 years old?

      • No, not 10 years old, but sick of the childish player bashing on this site. The point isnt that there is an issue defending Dempsey, its that the approach is so selective. It seems that in your eyes some can do no wrong while others get consistently pilloried.

        Your non constructive, childish response purely demonstrates my point.

        The standard of discussion has gone way downhill recently.

      • The Dempsey bashing is over the top as is the walker bashing.

        Both have a reason to be criticised its the levels at which they are persued that are rediculous on both counts, And it is ironic that you show disbelief at the criticism of one when persuing the other its opinions.

        your reasons for disliking walker are clear from your posts I agree with some of it mostly that he is thick and his defensive postioning is incosistant to say the least this season.

        The same could have been said of Ashley Twunt Cole when he was the same age. I saw england croatia at portman road about 10 years ago. and S*L C***ball get him out of the poop on so many occassions I lost count be cause he was so out of position and defensively unaware it was painful.

        I hope Walker can mature and be coached to get over his current failing. He certainly should nt be finished with the club right here right now based on your target campaign. If he has not improved by the end of next season I will drive him away from the club on your behalf.

  12. Defoe needs to put his feet up and recover fully from both hip and now ankle problems .I think it is a disgrace that a club of our size have to desperately bandage up a hurt striker as he’s clearly saying he can’t go on.Its clear to me levy has let avb down just as adie has in fucking off at short notice.top 3 was on if we had of got a forward now we have a fight for 4th.Looking forward to it coys Angel

    • Come on mate, lets just count our blessings, huh?

      • 11v11 I am not sure we would have got the win yesterday.Imo it looked like 90 min knock at the door type of game.One thing for sure we had no forward on the bench to make an impact.adie is back so things are looking up.9 ahead of the bindippers 4 up on le arse anal.never a big thing coys

    • I aint no physio but I was always told to compress an injury like like that as soon as possible as well get the ice on it Rest Ice Compression Elevation.

      I didnt see Defoe crying and shouting please boss no dont make me go back on you cant do this to me its against my human rights, I wont do it.

  13. Bless you Harry, you’ve done it again. Brought a smile to my face and a lovely chuckle to boot. I feel, well, blessed…

  14. Last summer we purchased Clint Dempsey because our ultra low offer for Damaio was not accepted. He still cost us £6 million and is slightly better than his transfer value suggests. He is brave, clever and a good passer of the ball. He has come from a team that for last season was more or less built around him and now he is on a bigger stage. He may not be the future but he is not the problem either.

  15. Wenger loves le coq

    I also like to add blood spinning is bang out of order and is in my eyes is doping.re defoe!

  16. MH a fair point.

    I think however that Walker hasnt been playing well this season and much of the end of last season and I thought he had an ok game yesterday which is why I didnt ball him out again on this website. It doesnt help to KEEP ON at the same players, as you can see above I didnt want to bring him into it again.
    As we are on the subject though I will tell you why I am anti Walker (at the moment anyway – anyone is obv. able to tell me different) I believe that at least once a game Walker gets caught flat footed or caught out “under the ball”. This isnt acceptable at the top level and it has happened in nearly all the games this season.
    His crossing isnt great and considering the amount of situations he gets in he really should be doing better.
    Im not saying I want rid but surely these things should be looked at??

    Dempsey on the other hand has scored goals for us this year, been pretty influential and played out of position.
    Yes at times his touch is woeful but he hasnt been that bad.
    At Norwich last week when they scored someone behind me shouted “For Fucks Sake Dempsey!”
    I couldnt help myself and turned round and said “Are you kidding me?”
    I dont stand at the ground aiming verbal abuse at just certain players i.e. Walker. Im not that kind of bloke.
    However on sites such as this I get to shout out my frustrations.

    MH you have put strange appoach and that is a fair comment.
    Please correct me on Walker if you make me wrong. I will always take good criticism of my football thoughts.
    I stand there and cheer on all our players while the match is going on. Never a hate campaign.

    • Wasn’t referring to you deano.

      • OK Mate. Wouldnt mind knowing your thoughts on Walker anyhow!

        • I think walker is a great prospect. Far from complete but has most of the attributes to be our RB for the long term. Similar to Lennon, there are aspects of his game that need coaching, but all can be improved. Things like speed, athleticism etc. cant, and he has them in abundance.
          My opinion is that be has become the current whipping boy to the point that most of his good work gets overloojed on here, wheras others (dawson, benny, dempsy, sig) seem to be excused.
          Bottom line is that a series of top level, experienced managers, including HHs wet dream not only see his potential, but also see him as being good enough for us (and the england squad) now.
          He woukd start in most PL teams and is much better than Naughton or any of our other options.

          • I guess my gripe with Walker is my thoughts with all full backs in general nowadays, being that they have to get forward too and that defending is deemed to be less of a neccessity than the art of getting forward.

            To my mind now only Cashly Cole is a world class full back in the PL with Baines not too far behind.

            Walker, Naughton, Enrique, Rafael, Simpson, et al are really all the so called breed “wing back”. I dont think any of them are particularly defensive minded. I just get frustrated when defenders cant do the simple things such as follow the flight of a ball, get caught the wrong side of a winger. It isnt just Walker this happens too but he just happens to be playing in my team.

            I hope you are right. These things CAN be taught and worked on and I definitely wouldnt want him playing for anyone else. Do you think any of the so called big four would start him though??

            As for Lennon do you believe he can still be taught/ coached??
            If he hasnt worked it out by now Im sure as hell thinking he’ll never learn. Any decent full back knows to keep him on his left and the balls going backwards.

            Dempsey gets a much rougher deal than Walker in my eyes but as you well know everyone has their pet favourite and pet hate.
            Its allowed and its called your prerogative.
            I despair though when these things are shouted out during a game.
            Unhelpful at the least…

  17. Look stop moaning about our players and get behind them.They are all we have this season and we have to finish at least 4th. Its Levys fault that we have not signed a striker but i do agree that i only want a player better than we have already. We are all going to have to stick together until the final game then let the argument begin. As far as i am concerned we have the best players in the league and will defend them to the hilt against attack especially from so called home fans

  18. Well, if things get really rough, we can always get Saha back….

    Sahahahahahahahaha… :D

  19. A&E, was very poor for the first 15 mins, but improved dramatically; and made some wonderful passes. Then was crap, for the last 10mins. I seen enough of Holtby to know, that Terminator 2,( I hope that there isn’t anyone called John Conner in our junior ranks) must start against the bar codes.

  20. I really hope the fans don’t put too much expectation onto Holtby’s shoulders – as has been pointed out elsewhere, he’s younger than: Sigurdsson, Livermore, Falque, Walker, Rose and Obika…

    So, a potential VDV replacement rather than an immediate shoe-in?

    Some very promising signs, but I hope the WHL crowd don’t overburden him (so many idiots on the BBC, shouting for AVB’s head, just because he didn’t give Holtby an automatic start on Sunday… (after, what, 5 days in the country??)

    • SpurredoninDublin

      What I like best about your post is the realisation that Holtby might be with us 10-12 years.

      I know I have already said it, but I think it is worth saying again, Holtby looks like he was born to wear our shirt.

  21. Lewis holtby love his heart and let’s get fucking into them attitude.You can never have enough of that.Top Top player. Approve

  22. Still need a striker and it shows every game we play ffs

  23. Scores on the Daws West Bromwich Albion three word summations special

    Lloris – zips off line 8/10
    Dawson – long pass success 7/10
    Vertonks – calming down dear 7/10
    Benny – must amuse himself 5/10
    Walker – nothing too alarming 6/10
    Parker – back at it 8/10
    Dembele – keeps ticking over 7/10
    Bale – simian mobile disco 9/10
    Lennon – small, fast, invisible 5/10
    Dumpster – stands his ground 6/10
    Defoe – kicked to smithereens 5/10

    Hotlby – German precision engineering 8/10
    Siggy – little boy lost
    Gallas – you look old

    AVB – cautious or negative? 6/10

  24. I see your still trying to slag of Lennon,quite pathetic of you really,a touch of the I told you so illness that has afflicted this site all season.Mind you you must be great as you were the only one who could see the rat was a good player.

  25. Loved Holtby’s celebration with Bale. The making of another German legend at the lane? Too soon?

  26. Poor old duece, he can feel eyes burning back, the old ‘goggle eyed stare at the cameras, with the bottom lip quivering’ moment every time he fluffs his lines……..

    Still think Siggy is potentially rather special………. I did however also once purchase a rather dazziling item from iceland, it looked the buis in the ads but sadly too failed to deliver…

    On sat id love to see Ade leading with a support of Bale, Azza, …….holtby and Sigg holding hands in the middle with Parker/dembelle sitting

  27. Hugo… ‘sweeper’ of last resort… essential in our highline back4… a goalie with guts
    Walker… again got caught wrong footed twice… needs benching/defence lessons
    Daws… needs to show more steel if he is to command a place again… hoofing less at least
    Verts… probably still getting used to Benny, but played better yesterday then at Norwich
    Benny.. needs more time but getting there
    Parker.. what a fighter, inspirational, yet in the final 3rd should hand over to others more qualified
    Moussa.. does better against the top teams.. his gliding qualities suffer when lesser teams yap & snap at him.. like at QPR, Norwich
    Azza… Quiet again… though did try to move inwards
    Deuce… ineffective… with Holtby in, can only see him now as an Ade replacement
    Bale… besides 2 great goals this week, enjoyed watching him defend and shout out instructions to team mates…true spirit.. looked as if he wants to lead us again into Europe & beyond
    JD… hope he gets back soon… always good as an impact sub
    Holtby.. grit, flair, energy…just the type we need right now… unlike the Hugo/Brad affair, AVB has to fast-track him into starting lineup

  28. Better all start praying Bale stays fit for the rest of the season. Without him we would have 1 point instead of 4 this week.

  29. So Chris Huhne drags it out until the last minute before admitting his guilt. Up until a few weeks ago he was trying to get his solicitors to have the charges struck out on a technicality.

    How much has this investigation cost us as tax payers ? Had he owned up when first charged he would have had to quit then, instead of claiming his MP salary for another 12 months.

    I hope he is forced to repay all of this money.

    Hope he ends up in the Tony Adams big house.

  30. Sir Les Dawson.. You for real HH, and Gallas over him. You need to go to spec savers mate. Sure a couple of mistakes, but what about Gallas’s mistakes againts Chelsea, and the other games, that cost us dearly.
    Lennon put a 1st class ball onto Dempseys head, and dempsey could not even hit the open target.

  31. Did I hear the name HOLTBY???????!

    Could be one of the greats…. I’m calling it…

  32. Any one know anything about this c/ l leuage game envoving an english club being fixed hope we would nt be STUPID enough to be envolved it was in the last 3 years

  33. Beam me up Scotty : ” Some don’t understand the pressure……appreciate exactly what he has achieved “-what pressure.? Pass back to Sir Les with no opposition within 20 yards ? Get the ball from Dembele and pass it to Walker when Dembele could have done it himself.? First time pass back to whoever gives you the ball? Don’t pass forward more than 5 yards because it may be intercepted ? Achieved ? Run the marathon ?
    Hey, I love him for his commitment but his value to the team is over rated. Also heard before he is just like one of us, supporters who would run to the ground for the club. Then just pick one from the stand and give him a jersey. Also heard good for the dressing room. Too bad no other team wants to play us in the dressing room. Fifa does not allow it anyway. By all means have Scotty on the bench. But put him on only when we are leading.

  34. Fair shout H. I’ve been catching up on Holtby and now see what everyone’s harping on about.
    He’s certainly what’s been missing and the prospect of Ade playing in-front of him is very exciting.

    Don’t know whats going on with our full-backs this season rarely been impressed by any of them. BAE will find his tempo again I’m sure, it’s great to have him back and on the mend.

    People are harsh on Parker but people are fickle. He brakes up play and causes problems for the opposition regularly enough.

    Parker, Dembele, Holtby, Lennon, Bale and Ade sounds very exciting so looking forward to the Newcastle match!

    • SpurredoninDublin

      I’ve been hearing good things of Danny Rose at Sunderland. Have to admit that I found him unimpressive last season, so our full backs might need to shape up if that is the case.

      • I personally think Rose is a decent player but is he an upgrade on what we’ve already got? I would’ve proposed a swap deal and tried to get Wickham, who I think is one for the future?

        • SpurredoninDublin

          Two points here: One is that I love it when I am critical of one of our players, and he proves me wrong.

          Second is that if we have full backs that are in decline, it’s nice to see that we have one that is improving.

          • Ah,but there’s the rub Dub,is playing well in lower team sufficient enough to elevate him into a potential first teamer with us? Caulker being a great example of what we have and what we need?
            My other concern is Kaboul. who like Dawson never appears to have a knock.it’s always months out at a time? remember last season and the season before, we had all of CB’s out for long periods?

            • Who could forget? Having Nelson in a team gunning for CL was a tad desperate to say the least.

              Benny was really influential at times and no full back has even come close to emulating that this season. I think Vert has probably done the best in a full-back position this season and he’s not even really a FB so that begs the question,

              Has the bar been raised too high for what we have?

  35. I wonder if taking the view that Rose is now of superior quality due to his performances for Sunderland is akin to the view that Dumpsy & Dembelly were strong replacements for vdv & mod based on their performances for Fulham?

    • Are you questioning Dembele’s quality US? perhaps thinking out of the box Dembele offers a different style altogether and replacing Modric is virtually impossible anyway?

      • I’m not so much questioning Dembelly’s quality so much as questioning the perception that he offers our team a level of midfield creativity which matches the general notion of where we are heading as a squad. For me he was the best replacement we could get for the sort of amount of cash plus wages our chairman will allow for. Dumpsy was an all too typical last minute ‘suppose he’s better than nothing’ deal. Siggy was halfway between the two. Ade was a deal we clawed and stretched for based on a very decent first season which is looking less and less worthy of the effort with every passing week. Holtby looks the most impressive deal to my eye even at this ridiculously early stage.

        Just questioning though, not convinced either way yet, I’ll have a better idea come the season’s end, like most of us.

        • I’d suggest that as Dembele was signed on 29th of August AVB’s original choice was dead in the water by then, leaving us with no option other than meet the buyout clause with cash already put aside for Moutinho?

        • I agree. When he first appeared, he seemed like a saviour to our midfield problems. As time has gone on I do wonder of he is a little limited. He can run and dribble and is pretty solid in possession. But he doesn’t have the vision of modric, and he doesn’t seem to get many assists and carries very little goal threat. Him and Sandro looked like a fantastic pairing, especially defensively. But there wasn’t much creativity between them. So I too have started to have my own doubts. Another issue is that there doesn’t seem like a lot of chemistry between him and Dempsey, odd considering they came from the same team. I still think he was a decent acquisition but after a very impressive start, I still have the jury out somewhat.

    • I would say you are probably right. Most people, certainly HH as I recall, got really stuck in to Rose last season. And Naughton did well for Norwich but… No doubt there will be cries to install Smith as RB when / if he comes back from Millwall. Reality is that few of these prospects make the grade.

      Besides which , if there is any truth in the notion that we paid 3m for Fryers (which I doubt but still), surely he should be pushing for a first team spot sooner than later? Especially considering we are so broke we cant afford any strikers, I’m sure we don’t have 3m to gamble on a possible maybe maybe left back for the future?

    • SpurredoninDublin

      @essex

      anytime we loan out a player, it will nearly always be to a lower team. Why would Manure want him. If he is not good enough for us, then it will invariably that that the loan is to a weaker team.

      @Sturgeon

      I recall one game last year where he came on as a sub and his first eight touches were something like six missed passes to the opponents, and a foul that earned a booking. At the time, I thought “This is not a full back”. I am assuming that the good reports we are hearing, are based on improvements by Broadway.

  36. We would be so much better defensly with kaboul. Any word on when he can come back if at all?

    • Defensively we are as mean as I can remember. 3 goals conceded in 8 league games or something? Which is just as well because we are scoring fack all. Last thing on Kaboul was end of Feb I believe….

      • Was originally four months out from end of August. Return dates are just predictions, like the weather, it’s yet another ‘wait and see’ situation.

  37. One thing occurred to me watching Holtby’s first couple of outings, which is that after many many years of feeling that our club is in need of a proper midfield general type, the Boy Lewis, with his Germany under 21 captain’s taking no prisoners attitude, might just be the ‘roy keane type’ we’ve been dreamily fantasizing about for donkeys.

    It’s early, It’s a fantasy, I’m bored, indulge me.

    • I just get a little concerned when all and sundry go overboard after 40 minutes of football, let the guy develop overtime, like Sandro for example-all this adulation is remarkable-you could say Le Fondre’s a WC striker after recent games, when the reality is, whenever he starts, he’s pretty crap

      • Point taken Essexian76, the last thing I want is to be responsible for your feeling a little concerned, I take it all back.

        Holtby looks quite good so far, hope he continues to do well.

        • I think RON quite likes him.

        • But yes, he looks great and I hope he’ll be everything and more, but I’ve seen it all before- Ian Moores, Colin Lee 4 on debut, Saha 2 on debut-Benny’s the best LB in the league-there’s an endless list of meteoric rises and plummeting endings etched in my memory not to go overboard about less than a half of football against tiring opposition.

          • The tendency is to build them up when they first arrive (unless they have a nightmare first few games) and then decide they’re a total waste of space when they are trying to settle in a bit later.

            Bale hardly set the world alight for nearly 2 years… Now look at him!

          • That’s it! I’m not alone then? If I had read this first I wouldn’t have bothered with the garbage below. Frankly it makes me queasy hearing grown men gush in situations like this. Lets hope Holtby is as good as we hope he is. But seriously after all these years watching the game are some so wet that that they cant have a little patience and see how he develops? I expect its the same lot that cried in the street when the queen of hearts died.

            • Its the same people that tried to hang themselves when we didn’t sign a striker on deadline day. Drama queens mate…

            • What? That woman on me pack o cards is dead? Shit, what happened, was she clubbed to death? Shame, she was a diamond, she was loved in spades, no wonder people cried. Who did it? They should flush em out of where they’re hiding holdem down and poker stick in their eyes and twist it. Anyone wanna help? You lot in or you gonna pass?

              Ok sorry, time for bed.

            • Ssshh they’ll be a conspiracy theory now

          • why all the negative results.Are you a perfectionist?

  38. My kettle has just packed in and Rory Mcgrath is on the tv and there are too many f*****g Lib Dems on the telly. This really is intolerable. I’m off to bed after I’ve just made a coffee from a saucepan. In-pain

  39. thought that our 1-0 drubbing of the smethwick skins on sunday was 1 of the most 1 sided games I have ever seen.not that we were all that great either but we had the ball more often.never thought I would say it but clutterbuck had a fair game too.

  40. I made some toast for breakfast this morning. One slice too many. As I was about to throw this slice away I saw an impression of Holtbys face burned into the bread. Of course I fell to my knees and asked his Holtbyness to forgive me for teasing the high priest of Holtbyism yesterday. A little later a had a need to empty my bowels. As I was about to apply the toilet brush to the inside of the pan (cleanliness is next to Holtbyness) I saw an impression of Holtbys face stuck to the side (just under the toilet block).
    He was smiling at me and telling me he loved me and that all the simpering fools that were fawning and cooing over him after less than two half games were the true believers.
    I want to believe, I want to simper and coo and fawn.

    • That’s strange. By some coincidence this morning I was just placing my leopard print crutchless pance into a stamped Tesco bag to send on to a chap here who wishes to perform some kind of genetic organ cloning procedure on them. Anyway, that’s what he told me. One way or another I had had quite a busy afternoon yesterday and to be quite honest I was just happy to be seeing the back of them. However, just as I was sellotaping up the top, something startled me. Something small round and shiny appeared to be peering out. I took the pance out to inspect further, and there amongst the mesh of leopard print and other litter was the likeness of the holy ghost himself, Daniel Levy. Already surprised, I nearly dropped the pance on the floor when he started speaking to me and saying he had a message for me. “LLL”, he spoke quietly. “I know you have been concerned and I’m sorry about that, they were a really nice pair of pance. But you shouldn’t worry. The Levy works in mysterious ways. We don’t need a striker. We will play like a low scoring, Spain with only one world class player who will score everything we need. Yesterday I placed an extra blessing on the team. Now Defoe is out and soon you will come to see that key injuries in depleted positions are godsends. From God.” He spoke softly and reassuringly, but there was also something of a raunchiness to his tone which I didn’t feel fully comfortable with. Anyway, after winking suggestively a few times his white, round, shiny face started to fade into the general muck so I threw the pance back in the Tesco bag and sent it off.

      Has anybody had any similar experiences and any idea what all this might mean?

  41. Seems the general panic and doom and gloom at not getting a striker has subsided after winning the next game!!

    Davide was on Talkshite and his take on it is is that strikers are not the be all and end all in modern day football, using Barcelona as the obvious example.

    I’m starting to think it’s true, no matter what formation you play the idea of the classic number 9 seems to be less central to the most successful clubs’ plans these days. How may goals do you see scored at the top level now from a classic cross and diving header or a knock down type assist? Even the ‘fox in the box’ seems to be a bit of an old fashioned idea. Of course there will be games when a player like that might be needed but a lot of managers now want every player to contribute in lots of ways and swap positions etc.

    The panic about a striker is unfounded, of course we could use another top forward but goal scorers are what you need and in several positions in the modern game. I hope some of my fellow fans refrain from bleating on about this supposed saviour of a striker whenever we draw or lose a game. When we win nobody mentions it, striker or no striker…

    • perhaps ***** is the modern/futuristic player and we are all wrong about him?

      • I have no idea who you’re talking about but sarcasm is always useful in these situations i suppose?

        • *****is the one who was on our payroll and we had a job to get rid of ,but has now gone off to uncle arry on 18month contract,cant bring myself to utter his name.

          • Yes, come to think of it he brought new meaning to the term ‘deadwood’!!

            We all had high hopes but apart from that late equaliser against the Woolwich i have never seen such a waste of a talent (and i use that word with caution). How can anyone come up that staggeringly short when it matters in their career? Just a wet lettuce of a professional in my opinion, and to think i rated him once…. Tut tut, shame on me.

  42. So what have I learned today?

    I have learned that “all those people” who said we don’t need to buy a striker, is in fact one person and the comment can only be understood in context when you read the entire post he made.

    I have also learned that if “we don’t need to buy a striker” is the title of a post, then it can only be taken in that context. I wonder if Tarantino knew this when he wrote “Reservoir Dogs”.

    I also learned that if I chose to talk about someone on this forum, knowing that he will see my comments, rather than address him directly, I am a coward. I never realised how much courage was required to insult someone anonymously. In fact the great disappointment I have with the Internet, is that in the past the cowards who wrote poison pen letters, could only make their point to the recipient of their filth, now it can be read by thousands. Nevertheless, I will not deny cowardice, but will question just how brave you have to be to hide behind an IP address that us shielded from the recipient of an insult.

    I have learned that Loser Loser Loser (so crap they named him thrice) is the man who knows everything, but when questioned, admits that he knows nothing about what he is talking about. He also thinks that the fact that he knows nothing is not important and we should still accept ignorance.

    I have learned that Loser Loser Loser (so crap they named him thrice) does not like his lack of wisdom being challenged, and will very quickly resort to name-calling, but will then take umbrage if someone calls him a bad name.

    I am sure most of you have heard of “profiling”. It’s not actually that difficult, and a lot of it is commonsense. For example if you get a serial killer who is linked to several bodies all over the country, then you can deduce that he probably has a job that involves travel. Similarly, if the murders were taking place in Bishops Ave NW6, then the likelihood is that the killer is white, because a black man would be easily noticed in that area.

    Just to show you how easy it is, here is my profile of Loser Loser Loser (so crap they named him thrice).

    He is a single white unemployed male of a little above average intelligence that lives with his mum, who he beats up regularly, and he is aged between 20-35. Though his ego demands respect he actually has low self-esteem which causes major conflicts with his paranoid personality, and is quite possibly a nonce. Finally, he has never been guilty of having a single original thought in his head.

    Single: Of course he is. Who could live with someone like him?

    White: Well I cheated there. I do know that we have non-white contributors, but trolling is very much a white mans habit. I think black people have better things to do with their lives.

    A little above average intelligence. He hasn’t said anything that makes you think he is Einstein. It is clear that he can understands others ideas but he cannot develop them. Instead, when asked to explain what appear to be his ideas, he cannot, so instead, in order to hide his ignorance (ego and self-esteem) he twists the words of others or attributes statements they have never made. This can be shown by his statement that the failure to sign a striker, and then having admitted he knew the square root of 0% of SFA, then accused me of saying we didn’t need a striker.

    Unemployed: Lets face it, how many of us would want to work alongside him?

    Mother beating: Anyone who thinks you have to be brave to insult someone on the web needs to practice his bravery. What better target than old woman.

    Age:He acts like a kid sometimes, but he is clearly no longer a school pupil.

    Ego/Self-esteem. He demands self respect, but he does not feel he needs to reciprocate, so when someone starts by calling him names, he mentions this, but is just as likely to start the name calling himself. Trolls always have self-esteem issues, it is because of this that they troll, they are lacking in power, so if the can upset people, they have proved their power.

    Nonce: As it is unlikely that he has a job, you would expect more of his posts to come during the working day. The fact that they don’t suggests he might be spending his day time hanging about outside schools.

    Paranoia: Delusions of grandeur. He loves the sound of his own voice, and thinks that anyone disagreeing with him, or questioning him to clarify what he means, is persecuting him.

    Now watch wile he walks into the ambush.

  43. Chill it down fellas, despite what Shankley said (i think it was him anyway!!) it’s only footy innit?

    If Michael Winner were still with us he would be able to utter those immortal words ….

  44. t his is all very amusing Heartbeat

  45. Some of us wanted a striker desperately, others however, myself included would have welcomed it and it would have been ‘nice’ but not the end of the world if it didn’t happen. If there was a straight choice of Holtby and the Brazilan forward i would have taken the former as another attacking midfielder is more useful and easier to rotate without pissing other players off.

    Holtby can play about 4 or five midfield positions fairly comfortably which is handier than a striker who may or may not settle quickly enough to help this season anyway. Dzeko did little or nothing to help Citeh to the title when he signed in the window, but then again they’ve got money coming out their arse… We haven’t.

    • SpurredoninDublin

      I think we all wanted a striker, but the reality is that the cupboard was pretty much bare.

      However, with regard to your views on Holtby, I think he could be as big here, as Glenn Hoddle. Those of us who have seen Hoddle play, know there are very few strikers that we would have swapped him for.

  46. well put.and very sensible,but I would love to be excited by a new goal monster.

  47. All jokes aside, I think you spent a bit too long on that, like the bloke said, it isn’t that important. I might argue more than most but that’s partially to do with the fact that I seem to have ‘minority interest’ views – around here anyway. Generally speaking I also take a fair amount of slagging off and I don’t as a rule insult people unless they insult me first and even then I try not to get bogged down in slanging matches because its just the internet and that shit is embarrassing for everyone. But in your case I did call you a plum in our first ‘exchange’ so maybe I started it and I’m sorry about that. I don’t know you and could really care less to be honest so lets forget about, eh? Its gotten a bit unseemly. Plus I’m worried that the police are going to come round and do me for beating up my mum and confiscate my computer and that. I don’t have much to lose but I don’t think I’d last long in the nick.

  48. I’m going to watch king of the hill to make sense of it all.

    The song is ..duhduhdaduhda…duhduhdaduhda Leewis Holty..repeat..

  49. I think everyones gone for a Richard 111 ,gotta keep it topical like.

  50. Let
    Everyone
    Wake up
    I
    Say

    He’s
    One
    Lethal
    Trackin’
    Back
    Yid

  51. Defoe had a good partnership with 3MP didn’t he ? albeit at pompey!… Just a point.
    Holtby looks like he can make the difference,, a few games to settle, then he will start finding space for Ade and through balls for Defoe, Dempsey will continue to score here and there, and goals will be aplenty… You’ll see.
    My brother knew Karl Marx

    • I thought Defoe and Ade started looking alright together before Ade made his mind up and buggered off with Togo but i take the point that Defoe is a little old fashioned in that way. If he doesn’t score he doesn’t contribute a great deal, not through laziness or anything, it’s just his game.

      Good point about Holtby, another player in that position frees up the front players and helps create more “solutions” as AVB would say. He has always said that Dempsey is a striker as well as a midfielder and he looks to be, he seems more of a forward to me than a midfielder. He’s not a dribbler, not a playmaker but lays it off and moves, very good off the ball etc. Not dissimilar to Teddy although his passing was often sublime and often too clever for half his team mates!! I honestly think Teddy could still do a job in that position even now, he was slow as a warm phart anyway…

      • From what i have seen, Holtby gets himself around, makes good runs and looks a little unpredictable, always exciting when a player makes those sort of moves, and it confuses defenders, leaving more options for the more direct players.. recently we have looked pretty predictable, by and large. I also reckon that Bale should be kept out left, with a certain amount of freedom to roam, but the deep crosses after a blistering run down the flank will always create chances for Ade and Dempsey..

    • I swear be had a good thing going with Freddie back then for a minute.

      Ah Freddi, why did we ever sell you?

  52. Have I missed anything? Spurredon, I think your outburst about LLL says more about you than it does about him, it’s a feckin Spurs blog not the UN…….
    P*****, Victoria Cross? ……….Oh dear …….

  53. Cor! Its been emotional. What a train journey home that was .
    Slaggings offs, counter-accusations, sorrys, even love (well Ronnie man love for Holtby Happy-Grin )
    Now I remember how I used to feel after watching an episode of Eastenders.
    Is it just me or is there a touch of Norman Wisdom in Holtby’s celebratory gestures?

    • Great to see young Holtby already doing the TV ads, he looks on top of the World in the Sure Men advert on Sky. What do you think Ron ?

      • Im sorry my time’s up.Lloris and Holtby are well promoted now.Im now looking for the next messiah. Most teams can get by with three of four to win titles we need at least 10 or 11 I think. Throw in three wise men and a bunch of sarcastic morons and there you have the team of the year

  54. another banker to investigate in the betting scandal would be the ex spurs goalie in wba v goons the other season that kept us out the champs league.Hungarian goalie connection.Ahatrick of howlers ?do me a favour

  55. Is it any surprise that the CL game under suspicion is a Liverpool game? No I thought not.

  56. Manager of the Month for January is……..unbelievable !!!!!!!!!

  57. Holtby says in his latest interview how humbled he is that Spurs fans sang a song for him throughout the 2nd half vs WBA. I’d really like to know if there was a song. Can anybody confirm?

  58. How easily the foolish are fooled! A Bale strike against 10 men West Brom means that we don’t need a striker after all?

    • I dont think anyone disagrees another striker in the window would have eased any burden on the current mob.
      I think people are just trying to say it hasnt suddenly changed anything going forward.
      We have done well this far, why should the fact we havent bought anyone change that?

      Yours

      Foolish :O)

    • And the The Moaner With No Nuts enters the frame-and as per usual fails to grasp the point so nothing new there.
      At no stage has anyone on here or from the club said WE DON’T NEED A STRIKER! Or else why have protracted talks with Internacional for Leandro who’s a fecking STRIKER!
      What the debate’s about is whether to get ‘any striker’ or try to play our way till the season’s end having to make do?
      So, if you had a name in mind ,prey tell-to be informed is a wonderful thing, you’ve even got the benefit of hindsight going for you!

  59. The about turn in opinion regarding the need for a new striker exhibited on here is as ludicrous as it is inexplicable.
    Yes we are doing well; with a new/ better striker we could do so much better. Newcastle don’t seem to have much trouble finding quality strikers. Man Utd (the best team in the country) feel the need for four strikers. We have two. One that can appear disinterested, the other that appears one dimensional.
    We create more chances per game than any other side, but we have no clinical finisher. This is old news I know, but some have forgotten.
    If HH posted a blog entitled ‘It’s time to cook and eat your first born’ some on here would be turning up the gas and sharpening the carving knife.

    • With or without chips though? but many would like jam with it Overjoy

    • Spurstacus. Ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant last line.
      I agree we DO need another striker.
      As Essex says though – “Who do you buy?”
      Its all well and good spouting names off willy nilly but:
      a) they have to want to come here
      b) we have to pay top dollar in January
      c) is it just a stop gap or panic buy?

      • Willy Nilly? Top Top player, nice lad, and he could go far I reckon, I’ll ask Ron and see if he’s any good and who he reminds me of?
        In a more serious note…anyone see our keeper Archer last night-he does look a good prospect indeed, especially watching his reaction after the fan jumped on his back while he was taking a goalkick, worth a watch!

        • Archer looked like he could take care of himself. The dopy supporter was lucky he did not get battered.

          • It must have taken him by surprise though, he certainly held is temper back, although it looked touch and go for a moment

            • I am sure that like me Essex, you can remember when fences went up around the pitch, the reason for it and the terrible consequences.
              Do these morons learn nothing from history ?

              • Clearly not David, but it’s more likely to happen at a game like that as it was on TV and every idiot loves an audience, so he’ll see himself as some sort of hero-a bit like giving a twat an asbo by thinking it’ll be a deterrent instead of an accolade.
                Big nasty dogs and alligators will do for it for me-or make the area no-man’s land and trespassers can be shot=gerroff moi land type thing

                • You have a point, only had to look at the idiots standing outside football grounds, trying to get on SKY TV on the last night of the transfer window. A lot of sad people out there and not just confined to this blog!

                  • It’s not a football thing though David. These are the same people that cause havoc on any Saturday night in any town you’d care to name. Nothings changed really, at least when I misbehaved back then the police seemed quite capable of letting you know they were a little peeved (cough, cough)

              • Morons are morons whether in the 80s or 10s!!!
                Whether you were there at the time doesn’t matter.

      • Hello mate. I do understand the points you put forward, and like everyone else I have to accept the position we are in, but there are some that do not argue as you do. They are not saying ‘we can’t get the right forward’, they are saying ‘we don’t need one’.
        I’m sure you have noticed that some on here hang off HH’s every last word, and repeat parrot fashion whatever he says.
        If they heard HH fart they would walk around all day blowing raspberries. They know who they are.

    • Jeez, you’ve been biding your time, keeping your counsel before wading into the whole striker hot potato. Why now all of a sudden?

    • On the subject of Newcastle, I heard that since Ashly went up there he’s only been buying the teams pies and ale in Tesco, racking up a formidable amount of points on his clubcard, which he’s been using to cash in for strikers recently. Just shows that where there’s a will, there’s a way I suppose.

      I also heard that after every match he goes around the stand picking up all the discarded XXXL tee shirts from where all the fat blokes have taken them off and thrown them on the floor. He recycles the material to make replica shirts for the Asian market, where the average size is an XS meaning he can normally supply a whole city in China with bar code tops after every home game. He’s pretty canny as the locals might say.

    • @Spurstacus 1.52

      It took me some time to discover, but it appears (and I think you have referenced it for what it is in your comment) that the only person who said we don’t want a striker was HH, and when you read the whole article, you realise that the comment in isolation, is completely out of context.

      Not being a regular devotee to this site, I had not seen the original post, but while LLL and I were going at each other, I was reminded of an interview that Alan Sugar gave in which he complained that no matter what you do for the fans, they will always want more. And what do I find? We all wanted a striker, but the debate moved on to people confusing HH’s comments, with the board’s inability to sign one.

  60. I know it’s a longshot but isn’t there any strikers without a Club that could help us out?

    • There were 2 Anelka and Drogba, who for different reasons signed for other clubs. can’t think though why as Galataseray aren’t even the top 20 world teams (i)

    • Im sure Saha is floating about…

      • No floaters. Saha wants flushing…

      • So’s George Best floating about- or maybe we could ask Martin Peters as he was always ahead of his time so he might be ready now

        • Hahaha. Parking Meters? My dad told me about him. As you say he should just about be ready.

          • The JJ of his day, everyone hated him around where I stood as a kid, they never forgave him for being swapped with Jimmy the piss head and a few sheckles, though equally forgetting it was Billy Nick who’s done the deal?

          • It must be so frustrating to be ahead of your time. Was he ahead of his time for his whole career? Did his time ever catch him up? I was always considered behind my time. My voice didn’t break until I was 21. The last few months have been a difficult period of change for sure.

            • you could’ve earned a good living as a Castrato Spurstacus and retired by now-oh,the Aled Jpnes of WHL=Isnet!

              • On Peter’s.. HG Wells reckoned he was always going to be pretty good, and you can’t argue with him!

                • FWIW, I was fan of Martin Peters. Don’t know if you are aware, but he actually held the distinction of wearing all the shirts 1-11 while at West Ham. That was in the day before the Troglodytes started supporting them.

                  It was Sir Alf Ramsey who said he was ten years ahead of his time, which was an amazing feat as he only played for England for nine years.

  61. I will be voting against quare marriage this evening. Sorry Bill, you know I love you (not like that).

    • Married homosexual couples have just as much right to be as miserable as married heterosexual couples.

      - and i know you love me, but please no valentines this year, i had a job explaining last years effort you sent me.

      • Hey Bill I hope you stick around for a bit today. I am writing a paper on Gen. Pinochets court cases later and I will need some well reasoned, balanced and objective opinions to help me out.

        • Sorry dude, no can do. I’ve got a date with a bent (financially) transvestite clergywoman/man- taking him/her to McDonalds for a slap up meal.

          I’ll get back to ya on Thatcher’s best mate tomorrow.

          Peace Out, and wish me luck Wink

  62. Just got the Silver Linings Playbook film. It’s about Bi Polarism. I’m in two minds as to whether to watch it.

  63. Re the should have bought a striker debate, we may get away with it if Ade stays fit and interested and if Defoe comes back pretty soon.

    We are short of cover in a number of areas i.e. Lennon, Bale, Parker, Dembele.

    We do not have any adequate natural repacements for those 4 and it is asking a lot to expect them to reach the end of the season unscathed.

    Better get those prayer mats out.

    • He’s already stated he’s exhausted- so it doesn’t bode well, but after his recent performances how can you tell?

    • One thing is certain, I think the time for fielding string 11s in the ropa is up. Put the development squad out there and fast track their development. Can’t afford any injuries or usual late season malaise.

      • String 11s? Looks like a misspelling which opens up an opportunity for some crap puns but I cant think of any. Spurstacus?

        • Why are you starting on me? Has your mum gone out?

        • I’ve been saying that since the beginning of the season, it’s a waste of time, energy and resources and should only be taken seriously when UEFA take it seriously by giving the winners a CL slot. Until then use it as a training/blooding exercise as it’s good for little else

          • True. It’s the one thing Arry got right.
            *Cough* By the way, did you see that Arry says he has ONLY 3 fit strikers at QPR. Is he taking the p*ss?

            • It depends on what’s meant by fit I guess?
              When I’m sat in Row Z and the ball hit’s my head-that’s the Rangers!

  64. We seem to be creating a lot of good chances, with 70% posession on Sunday i would have expected us to score at least 3, I really don’t know what the answer is. It just seem to baffle us all how to solve our lack of goals, at least the defence looks solid.
    Glad Ade will be back for Saturday and with Holtby in the hole, it could be the answer to all our prayers.

    • Yes, I have to admit, I’m completely stumped as to what the problem is. :Sad:

    • Trouble was, West Brom weren’t just going to lie down and let us have the 3 points: the sending off seemed to galvanise them and they got 2 banks of 4 behind the ball at every opportunity…

      The Baggies have a decent home record, haven’t conceded many and had already beaten Chelsea, Liverpool and Everton…

      Plus, they started kicking lumps out of us – did you notice that Bale’s goal came after he suffered a pretty horrific double-assault (no foul given…) – it was almost as if he thought: well, f*ck you, then…

      • Norwich had beaten Arsenal and Man Utd at Carrow Road, but that doesn’t count apparently! Just look at some of the stupid pre-match predictions and they’d put the most delusional of Utd fans to shame.

  65. Well, well, well, this is very disapointing, came on here to find the usual ruck and it is all very calm and civilised.

    Must be on the wrong blog.

  66. He plays were he wants, he plays were wa-ants, Gareth Bale he plays where he wants. Well its a bloody good thing he does.

  67. Quare marriage it is then. I expect Holtby will getting a few brotherly proposals.
    OOO ‘ark at ‘er!

  68. We have both just polished off 1/4 pound Beef Burgers there and i can say without any doubt that no Horses were harmed in the making of our Supper.
    I’ve read that Ade is exhausted, hope it’s just paper talk as we need to keep the Barcodes on the back foot. Ade and Bale to score first half, neigh bother.

  69. The anwer to all these park the bus merchants is keep the ball in or around the edge of our half put the foot on the balll and dont venture forward until they get bored and come after it ,then ping forward for bale to run on to cut them in half and the jobs done. or alternatively, stick holtby right in the middle of them give him the ball and our forwards/attacking mids gyroscope around him and he gives it to whoever sees the gap opening. or back to lloris and shoot like jennings.

    • good plan A

      what if they still dont come into our half and actually get deck chairs out and a good book to sit and wait for us??

  70. wales have a new centre forward ============ Balisimo ha ha ha our new behind the scenes marquee signing

  71. Dont think we should dance around the issue with Ade.Either he plays his heart out or he can piss off.Play without a striker.Use Kane,Use Bale.Anything but dont succumb to the whims of Ade.

    Put him on for 15 minutes and if he doesnt put out,get somebody else out there.Even Walker on the wing and Bale inside whatever.Topo many games from Ade in my opinion. He has got the talent and thats why frustrating/

    Oh and Holby? No problem,he will find the space and just needs a few inside players to read where they should run.

  72. Time for the Premier League and PFA to issue a statement with reference to the Match Fixing Scandal, with 680 games worldwide and 380 in Europe currently under investigation. The longer they stay silent on the matter the more it seems they are denying wrongdoing within their juristiction. Surely a better ploy at this point would be to condem any attempt at fixing the outcome of a game and emphasise that swift and decisive action will be taken against any Club or Individual found to be in breach of their regulations. Also that they will assist Europol if requested on any enquiries relating to Member Clubs and Individuals.

    • have to read about that

    • Only thing I heard was talk shite yesterday when one of the bookies was on, he said that the only suggestion of any of the games involving UK teams was the european game which I think was Liverpool and I dont think they are implicated. The bookie also said that there is no indication that any EFA run games are in the least bit suspicious.

      but I agree the FA should be commenting as usual they sit on their backside dooing sweet FA (Sorry I am doing penance and no not ht e type thats involved in the gay debate). when will they act quick and look decisive on any topic?

  73. Isn’t it crazy when Football is trying to stamp out Racism that the Vice Chairman of a Top Top European Club calls his recently transferred in Player “Our Little N****r.” Where was Paolo Berlesconi’s brain when he said that ?
    Balotelli must really feel among friends at Milan !

    • They probably talk lke this all the time during family dinners

    • Well, Paolo has seen his brother get away with much much worse. They clearly both imagine they are above the law and not bound by the moral scrupules the rest of us pay some respect to. If you join a club run by the Berlusconis, what can you expect? Did Balotelli not read Silvio’s recent homage to Mussolini? Mussolini? I ask you!

  74. A lot of papers have been speculating about Tottenham going in again for Damiao in the summer window. Internacional sources have stated that our only bid was £13m, a long way short of his £42m buy out clause………one for the dreamers !

    • If you want to buy a player then the 13 million is a diabolical figure.Its just to give the fans something.
      Yes there was the VDV buy and maybe that gave Levy the idea that he could grab these players cheap at the last minute but it can work against you to in the future.You would think that the Brazlllian club will look anywhere but Tottenham next time to sell him.Levy must figure he is off to Italy or Spain in the next window because the bid didnt help him for next time

      • Internacional are our Sporting Partners, there is a special relationship, remember Sandro !

      • We don’t need him, do we? I thought we were preparing for a striker-free future. Because there aren’t any out there.

        • The reason is none out there is because chairmen keep seeing the tight arsed Daniel ‘Low-ball’ Levy coming.

        • I think Levy is doing very well.Yes we are short of strikers but he will find the right one at the right price next time.

          • That’s what some keep saying window after failed window. Maybe when Defoe’s leg actually falls off or if he snuffs it from knob rot, we might sign a decent one.

            • Levy doesnt pay silly prices.

              • Does 16m for David Bentley not strike you as a tad silly?

                • In hindsight it was.Thats the only time Levy splurged but look where his conservatism got us since then.

                  Today you are paying over the odds for any striker and a huge wage bill as well and you know about the stadium. So I think you cant compare it but if you asked Levy he would probably say that you were right but he learned his lesson

                  • I think Bents price was too high, even though we made it back. Also 15m for Defoe and 12m for Keane to both come back in the same window wasn’t very cheap, especially given that we subsequently sold Keane for about 2m or something. Sure there are plenty of others we’ve overspent on too. I’m not slagging Levy for the sake of it, just for the sake of balance. I know we’ve had some good value out of him too but I find the ‘he can do no wrong’ attitude of some to be wide of the mark and cringeworthy in equal measure.

                  • LLL personally I look at all these things issue by issue.Im not very political. So where Levy concerned or Redknapp or AVB I try to get to the reality the best I can.
                    Levy to me has been frustrating at times but thats only because Ive been a supporter for ever and
                    I hunger for the kind of success I saw when I was younger (and the quality) I think we are close.In this market its the haves and the have nots and Levy is trying to stay afloat in between. So whatever move he makes will be expensive unless he waits and finds that winner at a price.
                    Meanwhile AVB can switch things around with Bale playing a broader role and more inside as Ive been seeing and reading lately.
                    I would like to see something NOW but will have to wait a little longer to see us reach the garden

                  • Trouble is, imo we wont have too many shots at a top 4 place – you have to feel that Arsenal, with their stadium soon paid for etc, will pull themselves together and Liverpool also seem to be slowly getting back on track – so waiting for the exact right bargain player is not an option for us if we are serious about being a top 4 team and taking our best opportunities to make that happen. This point is key, I am starting to believe that Lecy, and ultimately Lewis, are not particularly bothered about top 4, not to the extent that they will take any risks to achieve it. More important to them is that we continue to appear to be knocking on the door and do so whole staying within our budget at all costs. For reasons I’ve outlined more below. Just my opinions, but I’ve racked my brains as there seemed almost no footballing justification why we haven’t seized our opportunities and strengthened adequately in the last 3 windows. I know that plenty of people argue that we simply couldn’t find a striker available or suitable, but we’ve had 3 transfer windows to replace Pavyluchenko with someone similar or hopefully better, and it hasn’t happened. Couple this with the clear PR spin on the Damiao deal and I think its obvious- to me – that there isn’t a serious desire to push on.

                  • Its about risk I think.
                    You are right about the other teams getting stronger.But still Levy is conservative and what do we do about wages?
                    Chelsea and City can up the ante again and again and if we mnake one bad move we are in trouble at these prices and these salaries.
                    The new system might help and we do need some immediate help but Levy wasnt going to find another Pav I dont think.Not another 15 million worth.he probably also thought that some of these kids would kick in too.I dont really know.But competing is not easy and maybe one day Joe will sell for that reason.
                    I think though that the club could eventually maybe get another partnership group and sell all or part of the club.

                  • TBH why are you squeezing LLL and Ron’s comments into a Long Tall Box.

    • The only thing I would say to that is clearly no one else thought he was worth more and he definately aint worth 42 million.

      Was the 13 million to international because I understand (from other paper rumours) that we had to bid seperately to the 30% stakeholder so the total may have been more. Not that it matters really

    • Do you think anyone will ever give Internacional 42m? And do you think he will stay there for his whole career?

      In other words, they will sell him at some point but the 42m is a joke. Mind you, so was our 13m offer. By all accounts they wanted closer to 20m euro, around 17-18m sterling. They also wanted the bulk of it upfront, while we wanted to spread our 13m over instalments. Problem there is that Inter don’t need to sell so wont be dictated on price or terms. Still, this would have been known for some time through our various dealings with them stretching back 2 years. Which all makes the deadline day breakdown in talks smell all the more of BS. As does the lack of a plan B, C or D. In my humble opinion.

      • I don’t think there was even a plan A was there?

        We made an offer, they said no, business as usual.

        The whole deal and everyone involved seems very messy and complicated and I’d prefer it if we stayed clear of deals like this. All this third party ownership and sponsorships lead me to believe that the only option they have is a big money move so all these ‘other guys’ get a piece of the pie.

        Lets just end this crap it’s getting boring. We’ll find some1 else.

    • For more evidence of the bid being horseshit, how about the fact that AVB said that all parties were basically agreed but that they just needed a little more time to push the deal through but then said that they wouldn’t bid again in the Summer, that the chase was over. Why pursue someone for so long and get so close and then walk away? Similar, talks for Moutinho were supposed to have broken down on an otherwise agreed deal on 31st Aug. 4 months passed, you would think that would be long enough to iron out the kinks, so why wasn’t he smiling with a chicken shirt on Jan 1st?

      • why? holtby for 20million less – in my opinon anyway

      • The reason for building an elaborate training facility probably was to develop young players to keep but also to sell. It will help pay over a period for the new stadium.It takes time.Meanwhile Levy is fiishing.He’sll catch the odd one here and there and as long as we are competitive it will be like that. He might cash in on Bale if we drop and pick it up later.I think the only time he will go for it with a big time offer is if it looks really close.
        We have a good team but still that one player may not do it while our competitors can buy with impunity for the most part.So he is being cautious and keeping the money in the bank.

        • It is literally only my opinion but I think the training ground was built to add value to the club and make it appear more attractive to would be buyers. Since Joe Lewis has never sunk any of his own funds into the club you can only imagine that his interests are purely business minded. As such he will have an end game, which involves selling the club for a profit.

          Call it a conspiracy, but I think thus might also explain why we rarely see finances risked for predominantly footballing reasons. i.e. Taking a calculated gamble on a striker in January to try and guarantee CL football. Since the windfall for achieving CL qualification would already be half spent on a striker and the rest mostly on added operational costs – increased wages etc, the risk in itself doesn’t seem worth it to an owner whose primary concern is that the club remains financially clear. In other words, there is no great difference for them between finishing 5th and 4th because the balance sheet is key. If AVB can achieve CL without any significant investment then the club is laughing, but if he doesn’t then no harm done.

          • Similarly, I think this also explains why the biggest transfer splurge we’ve seen has not involved a recruitment drive to obtain CL but a mass buy when the club was somewhat in risk of relegation. In doing that, the club probably realized it was spending a large chunk of its transfer budget for the next few years, but it was obviously worth it (although Id personally argue that most half decent managers would have kept us up with what we had, but that’s moot).

            • I cant remember if it was Harry pushing for Bentley but when an owner hires a manager,they have to do a certain amount of what that manager wants especially in the beginning.
              Look Fernandes may go conservative later too

          • Of course business is the most important thing. Joe was a Tottenham supporter but obviously spent a lot more time making things happen in his business life that watching football every three minutes but he did remember Toittenham.He could have bought another team and he is not so anxious to sell it.
            So you can read what you like into it and think its all about profit but that would just be speculation.
            Meanwhile he wons Tottenham and Im glad he does.
            A good business sustains itself but he is competing with club owners who dont care about thate several are more about ego.
            The training ground is about the business of football.

      • How much involvement do you think AVB negotiating with all parties involved? I know you take this as being lied to personaly or treating and thats fine fil your boots

        there was a third party and if al were happy the 13million must have been enough then?

        this is getting really confusing cause i also read that the 30% stakeholder wanted a last minute increase in price (May be horseshit I have no evidence either way and nor do you). Of course though that would not matter as we had 2 years to deal with the last minute price change as you have stated yourself.

        Fact is we dont know the details. May have been bulshit, or may not but we didnt get him move on

        Oh and we dont need a striker :D istort:

    • Thats not what the article saiss TMWNN it sais that they were still there monday when people tried to check.

      Itr also sais that it is not known where Ade is now or whether the private flight turned up in the end so 90% of the article is irrelevant to the whereabouts or further actions of Ade after monday morning.

      It would be nice to know what happened after monday morning now they chucked that half article out there.

      Hope he aint in a south african prison

    • Why can’t Ade just be ‘normal’. It’s always drama with that bloke.

  75. That enquiry outcome into the Staffs Hospital wrong-doings is a time bomb.

    The way those patients and families were treated and fobbed off is an absolute disgrace.

    Cannot say I am totally shocked as for the past 15 months, Queens Hospital have been fobbing me off regarding their treatment of my mother.

    Even so, this enquiry result is scathing.

    No doubt we will get the usual ” lessons will be learnt” from some high paid Hospital management consultant, who is paid more than a nurse can ever dream of receiving.

  76. Keys and Gray on Talksport had Joe Kinnear on this morning and well worth a listen if it can be accessed from their site, as a lot of the chat related to Spurs in the 60′s and 70′s.

    He told a great story regarding Martin Peters, who features in comments made earlier on this blog.

    In case you cannot access it, the story was that Kinnears son, whilst still a young man, passed away after being affected by cancer of the spine.

    Joe Kinnear set up a charity and Martin Peters donated the shirt he wore in the 1966 World Cup Final.

    Kinnear told Peters he could not accept it as it would be Peters pension in future years, but Peters insisted and the shirt raised £125,000 at auction for the charity.

    Peters and his wife sometimes shopped where my wife worked and my wife said he was always a very quiet, polite and unassuming man.

    I believe he suffered with depression at one stage in his life but hopefully he is over that.

    He played at a time when footballers were not receiving astronomical salaries and I am sure the amount he could have received for the shirt had he kept it would have made a huge difference to his financial position.

    The decision to give the shirt to the charity was an amazing gesture and would suggest he was a lot more than 10 years ahead of his time.

    • It was a fantastic thing for Peters to do.

      • Yes, listened to the show this morning,it makes a pleasant change hearing about a fellow pro helping another, when it was easier to cash in himself. Sort of dispels the theory that all footballers are money grabbing parasites, when you take into account the work Bob Wilson, David James, and many others have contributed to good causes, but I also accept these stories don’t make headlines which is why you don’t read about them in the papers

    • SpurredoninDublin

      Notwithstanding the gesture that Peters made, he came from an era when when footballers were generally ordinary lads that you might have a drink with if they lived nearby to you. For most of them, their greatest crime was breaking curfew. They were someone you would approve of your kids looking up to.

      The current crop leave a lot to be desired, and I think such gestures like this will become rarer even though they should all be retiring at 35 years of age set up for several liftetimes.

      Have you noticed in general, how the more that people get, the greedier they become?

      • I disagree with that as there are plenty of examples for footballers doing good things. Only recently Defoe, King and Adebayor have all had associations with various charities, The Tottenham Trust is a worthwhile cause that requires input from current professionals, and that’s only from our club, I’m certain there are more examples from other clubs, but as I said, it doesn’t sell papers to promote good things, only negativity sells. Danny Kelly for instance, had to mention a players earnings x amount of times during a written piece because it’s intention is to bring out the jealousy of the reader. And judging by the usual suspects who continually bitch about players earnings on here it appears to be working on the mindless few?

        • SpurredoninDublin

          I am not saying that it doesn’t happen, but putting it into perspective, this would have been about as much money as he earned playing for Spurs.

          Look at the bet that Jack Wanker made involving the loser making a £3k donation to charity. I would think that is about half a days pay or less to him.

          If Martin Peters had made the same bet pro rata it would have been in the region of £10.

          There are lots of “celebs” that lend their names to chariities, but the do not necessarily dig too deeply ino their own pockets. Its the proportionality issue I am on about. In those terms, it was a colossal gesture by Peters.

          Another that I have good time for is Niall Quinn, who donated all his testimonial money to kids charities. I also recall the time the Ryanair wankers denied Sunderland supporters boarding at Cardiff Airport, and Quinn paid for a fleet of cabs to get them home.

          • As did Roy Keane and Ryan Giggs, I think? but without labouring the point-all I’m saying is bad publicity is easier to print than good

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