Well if last night reminded us of anything then it’s that there are too many noisy people on the loose and I don’t just mean Jim White.
The incessant yelps have been undignified and lacked reason. The ‘I want a striker’ brigade are now preparing to morph seamlessly into the ‘I told you we needed a striker’ brigade.
These are the same irksome mob who upon Villas-Boas’ appointment greeted him with with dark forebodings. Talk of a Santiniesque end of days, candles blowing out for no apparent reason, bath water going cold at unexpectedly high speeds.
How are these ingrates be taken even vaguely seriously? One minute they’re hollering like a needy 4 year old, the next they’re issuing moody pronouncements like Charlton Heston when he was all beard and tablets.
The conversation about buying another striker is a brief one. Would I like one? No, I’d like a dozen. But the reality is 36,000 seats to sell every fortnight and existing staff on contracts. You cannot play fast and loose with facts in order to assert a daft argument. You can, but you simply end up looking …well a bit daft.
This Pot Noodle culture that has permeated the game is laughable. The players and managers that so many of these whiners purport to adore would laugh in their faces. Nobody likes intolerance, nobody likes avarice. Least of all I am sure the men and women who spent the best part of their lives building a club that always had decent core values.
The club sits 4th in the Premier League with a manager who moments after his arrival was scrambling. Do you honestly think Levy & Co. genuinely set out to undermine Andrè? Do you really think that?
Defoe is a one dimensional jockey. We know that, but he’s ours. And he’s scored 14. Bale is infuriating, but he’s ours. And he’s scored 12. Clint Dempsey is a bit American, but he’s ours. And he’s scored 8. Adebayor is a complete oaf, but he’s ours. He’s score 3 but only made 14 appearances. Whether yo like it or not he was brilliant last season and you can guess all you want, but you do not know what he’ll produce upon his return.
I’ve been saying for a while that we’ve been getting away with it. This is still very much the case (see Leeds, see Norwich). But the addition of Lewis Holtby appears – based upon 20 minutes anyway – to be relatively inspirational. In his ‘over the moon’ interview he spoke excitedly of the prospect of Champions League and how impressed he was with the new training complex.
You can sneer all you want, but it sparks of positivity such as these are what might just bring something that passes for glory. Not chanting the name of a player over and over like some retarded medicine man.
Jim White is 23.
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Not even worth sneering at.
Go on,have a go,you know you want too
You sneered when you wrote that.
Admit it.
Just to show you knew what you were saying.
I sneered when I replied.
moron, spot on for once H
the moaning you can hear are hundreds of people waking up from their collective dellusion ……
I can live without a new striker, we’ve done so for a couple of seasons now. I think everyone would be a lot calmer if it weren’t for the press constantly winding us up at every opportunity.
What annoyed me was the removal of Townsend and Falque leaving LESS options on the bench. Okay so a loanee can return in an event where Lennon/Bale becomes injured. But what about 30/50/75 mins into a match?
Holtby by all accounts is a great signing and was a very prudent one too. But he can’t cover both wings and the space behind the striker.
Sorry, but the whole thing seems very make-shift to me and that doesn’t inspire confidence. I have no doubt that AVB has some kind of 2/3 year plan where we remove the dross rebuild on all positions but the prospect of being leapfrogged by the goons again (this season) is a miserable one. especially at the cost of a CL place, AGAIN.
Let’s have a quick look at who our immediate rivals supplemented their squads with in January.
Chelsea: Demba Ba, Arsenal: Nacho Monreal, Everton: John Stones, Liverpool: Daniel Sturridge and Phillippe Coutinho.
Ba won’t get much of a look-in since the Russian insists on Torres playing, Monreal is hardly a game-changer, Stones … who? and Coutinho’s very much one for the future (and given Liverpool’s recent track record in foreign imports could just as easily turn out to be a flop). Only Sturridge looks like he might make an impact (and I happen to think he’s overrated anyway).
I know we’ve only seen him for 20 minutes but I’ll take Holtby over that lot every time, thank you.
I’m glad we got Holtby, yeah. But we’re not playing top trumps with new signings we’re trying to finish in the CL zone.
Meh maybe I’ve supported Spurs for too long butI think Arsenal’s performances will start to improve over the course of the season.
You are not a fool to think that way. If there was ever a team that specialized in dragging defeat from the jaws of victory it is ours.
But for all that, I think when you look at what has been achieved and what we have had to achieve this with, we are the team that gives hope to others. When others look at us, they know that you don’t have to be a member of the Sky Four, or require a sugar daddy, or a 60,000 seat stadium to be respected.
I don’t get this “cover” thing.
Get ‘em out on loan, in front of a crowd and with a decent manager.
Bring ‘em back if necessary.
Just get them a game!
I agree, let’s get them some games… For us!
Sounds like Levy has found another apologist. He has made a few errors of judgement recently. Adebayor on a permanent basis, one of them.
An article I could have written myself. (If I had the time or the ability…..)
Get behind the team! A deal wasn’t done for January boohoo. New manager and reasonably new squad. Lets push forward for the remainder of the season and get worthy additions in the summer for a real push next season.
We are building, slowly but surely.
Have faith.
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‘Slowly building?’ Towards what, precisely? Last season some of us thought we were closer to real success than at any time in the last thirty plus years. Then we lost Modric and VDV. In a few months we’ll lose Bale Maybe, if AVB really is the miracle worker that his disciples believe him to be, we’ll end up with a team as good as we had a couple of years ago – is that Levy’s (and your’s) idea of progress?
And Saturdays lottery results are?
01, 21, 51, 61, 81, 91.
Bonus Ball: 84
Bale will leave anyway you prat !!!! sweet jesus help these morons
Is it not time for a reality check? In terms of depth, we are playing in the strongest league in Europe. In terms of capacity, our ground is not even in the top 10 in England, and yet if you look at our form with the exception of the time when Ramos was involve we have not been out of the top five, since before Jol was in charge.
We failed to qualify for the CL this season because of Balotelli and the ref’s incompetence. If the ref had spotted the foul, Manure win the League, Shitty are second, we are third and Arse are in the EL.
Five years ago, before they became they became so crassly nouveau riche, Shitty fans would have traded all their female relations for a top 5 finish every year.
I think if you are looking at this as a business, we have the best Chairman in the league. In terms of available resources, it is a miracle we are where we are. When we have the new stadium, if we are still struggling to qualify for the CL most seasons, that is the time that DL should be called to account.
LOUD NOISES!
I sneer at your loud noises. :Conceited:
Why is the winter transfer window open for the whole month of January? Nothing happens from 1st – 30th.
Why not just open it for 1 day (maybe Christmas day would be more appropriate), and then we can put an end to the weeks of whinging and bitching and throwing tantrums.
Ps. We should have bought a striker :* (
Yes HH,I think you summed it up nicely,I have to agree with BrizzleSpur on the Townsend loan,It just doesn’t make any sense,surely saving his wages can’t come into it,can it?
According to HR he’s only on £3k per week.
Get him a few character building games.
Sort his suspect temperament out and give him something to battle against.
Should come back tougher. If he doesn’t…get rid.
He should be playing for us though right? There have been games where Lennon/Bale haven’t made their time count and this could of been opportunity to play him.
Why don’t we play our own players?
What we want is a Chairman who is to commit to winning this generation not the next
Personally I’d be happier if you didn’t speak for the sweeping “we”!! I’m far happier knowing we have a chairman who is willing to commit to ensuring we’ll have a football club in the next generation! Maybe you haven’t noticed what’s been happening/has happened down at Fratton Park, Elland Road, Hillsborough etc etc
I’d love some success, really and truly, but not at the cost of our existance. A new state of the art training complex, a new stadium in the pipeline and a side competing for the last 4 years for a Champions League spot. Some might say that this glass is a tad more than half full!!
‘What has Levy ever done for us’ springs to mind?
And I wondered why you call yourself that.
Utter nonsense again HH, We should of bought a striker and if our finances cant handle it where has the 20 million plus gone that we tried (supposedly) to buy Moutinho with?.
Another window where Levy tells us fans that he really is trying but the deal was just too complicated, well try buying someone before the last day. Again good PR its not our fault but we can put another 20 million back in our wallet.
If you had our way we could sell Bale because he isn’t carrying us and he’s so bad teams that are double/triple marking him can concentrate their efforts on Lennon.
AVB has got us into 4th spot because we have the 4th best team in the league.
We wont stay 4th because we’ve already dropped so many points to teams in the bottom half.
HH do you actually want us to do well?
The ‘£20m’ for Moutinho was for the midfield and area you clearly see as being not only just fine but less important that a the front line – Mmmmn.
You acknowledge that these things are complicated – maybe daylight is dawning.
Bale was only marked up against United – you would know had you watched Leeds or Norwich. I have never suggested we sell him. If you believe I have, please do share that URL.
You think we’re the 4th best team in league yet that won’t last because we drop points to lower league sides – which is as clear as mud.
Do i want us to do well? No, I wish Arry was still here and Levy had let him buy all the players he bought for QPR. That’s how you run a football club.
All areas of the team are important thats why when one department is short you buy someone,
Exactly complicated.. so start on the 1st of Jan.
So Leeds and Norwich never marked Bale? ok
Our team is the 4th best set of players in the league and we’ve dropped to many points at home against shit to keep our position in the league.
I would of liked us to buy Samba and Remy too.
Not improving a squad crying out for a striker 3 years running when not doing so has prevented CL qualification the previous 2 years is stupidity.
But stay on your high horse HH
Hold up Lordy.
You don not ‘just buy someone.’ Where from? The striker shop.com Please. Think about what you’re actually saying.
I never said Leeds and Norwich didn’t mark him. Why twist things? I said they didn’t do a job on him as Man Utd did. It’s ridiculous to suggest he had no space at either game.
Your analysis of where we have dropped points is not only selective, it doesn’t actually prove anything.
Samba on £100,000 a week and Remy not far behind? You’re on a wind up. Please tell me this is a hoax.
You think this is all some ‘let’s play shops’ game in the playground.
I really wish characters like you would quit the pretence and just post comments like ‘Waaah, waaah, I wanted a striker!’ and save us all the bother of having to wade through half baked arguments.
We are paying Adebayor 100k, I’m sure we could afford to pay Remy the reported 70k
Oh a name at last-too late he’s gone to that top top club, instead of playing for a half decent one-merenary bastard, I didn’t think you liked them?
I’m not prejudice, it is you who find a reason why we cant or shouldn’t sign x y or z striker.
Please try to pay attention in future, and see where I’ve ever said that we don’t need a strike, anywhere, or any time? now you’re boring me to distraction so in the micest possible terms..! All I’ve ever said nd I’ll use caps as we don’t do bold
WE ARE NOT IN ANY POSITION TO PAY SILLY MONEY IN A WINDOW WHERE SILLY MONEY RULES TO SECURE THE SERVICES OF A QUALITY STRIKER THAT WILL SERVE US FOR THE REMAINER OF THIS SEASON AND BEYOND!
now if you can’t see that’s clear, then I suggest it’s a problem you’ll have to come to terms with-I did and accept us for what we are, not what I think we should be!
I don’t understand why you are angry. I didn’t misrepresent you. You have agreed we need a striker, but you will sink to any depth to argue that any given striker is a. Not good enough, b. Too good for us, c. Over-priced. And the irony here is that you paint yourself as an optimist.
NO ALL ALONG I’VE SAID THERE ISN’T ONE AVAILABLE WHO FIT’S THE BILL AT A PRICE WE CAN AFFORD IN THIS CURRENT WINDOW..and was there? NO…, So what’s your problem? as I said move on-I’m not angry-just annoyed at your belligerent and quite frankly, childish attitude to modern day football-it’s a real world, not PS3 land-but you carry on-but use cotton wool instead of just putting your fingers in both ears before going La La La!
for optimist just try SUPPORTER, and that’s what I do, support the club and try to understand what’s best for the welfare of our club.
Oh, it did slip my mind that you are the lord of the transfer market and you know all the strikers and you are also privy to our balance sheets. Foolish of me.
And on the other hand, you’ve resorted to lecturing me on the realities of modern day football and finally on what it means to be a ‘real’ supporter. Instant LOSE!
You are a complete and utter muppet, I’m neither lecturing you or even goading you-ot’s clearly you who has the problem in accepting the patently obvious, it’s you who thinks we’re a bigger outfit than what we actually are, it’s you that put words, strikers and resouces into the frame where clearly non exist, and it’s you who now has turned this into a slanging match-all I’ve said from the outset is what was going to happen-it happened-we shifted shit, didn’t buy any shit-and we’re not in the shit-shit happens-and sometimes shit doesn’t happen-tough shit!
You are too selective with your reasoning and self-contradictory with your arguments on this issue and always have been. I don’t know why I allowed myself back in to an argument with you about it.
And for the record, I think it was you who first introduced abusive terms into it too. I regret any such debate. I don’t know you personally so have no desire to call you names. Will only do so in retaliation. Over and out.
And do what with Adeabayor? Just change the pin entry on the main gate? Stick an Ad in Chick King’s window? The man has a contract! Bloody Remy. What do you actually know about him that you think would generate £280,000′s worth of value pcm?!
Let’s see where Ade and Remy are at the end of the season and agree that guessing is… well, just guessing.
If you hadn’t noticed, Adebayor is absent and our one tracked mind cocksmith is running at half cock. Besides which, are you really now trying to argue that a squad cant function with 3 strikers? Is that really how desperate your argument has become???
So what you’re saying in essence is cock-a-doodle-doo, any cock won’t do?
When did I say a squad can’t function with 3 strikers? And Ade is due back in minute. Innit?
Have you been on the Day Nurse again?
You asked me what ever would we do with Adebayor if heavens forbid we added a third striker. That was your argument, unless I grossly misunderstood it.
Day nurse? I asked you the other day if you were on the crack or the wind up. I still think it is the latter but you do a very convincing impression of it being the former, I must say.
Mmmm, actually no. City is supplementing over 50% of his wages.
No they aren’t. Insanity is rife. Why would a club pay wages to a player they have no stake in or ownership of?
‘But stay on your high horse HH’
You mean HH has an HH? An HHHH?
But is it outside?
Haha, this load of total crap cheered me up. Nice try, HH. Nice try.
There you go LLk we’ve recalled Kane, and as you keep saying any striker will do-It’s job done
Well, it didn’t cost anything other than a little bit of wages so I’d guess you are even happier than ever today.
Well your stipulation was that you wanted a striker, not a big name and anyone will do-so what’s your problem now-there’s just no pleasing some folk!
Try to pay attention. At no point did I say ‘anyone will do’. In your crazy world of contradictions I either want Messi or Carlton Cole, but that’s probably because, as you keep telling us, there is no middle ground between them.
You havent mentioned anyone, other than a bloke who’s just signed for someone else, how convienient (scratches chin)!
Have we? Where did you read that? I was hoping we would as he has next-to-no chance of getting game at Norwich now.
Next to no chance of getting in the Norwich line up? Sounds like exactly the man we need for our CL push!
Norwich are in a relegation battle. They need proven veterans such as Holt and Becchio to get them out of it. Now is not the time for them to blood someone else’s youngster.
It was at our request Unc as I understand it. but again LLL, It’s probably why he played on Sat that made him unlikely to get anywhere near their first team?
Explain how blooding a youngster in a top 4 push makes any more sense if you would be so kind?
Having Kane as an option from the bench is the obvious thing to do. Bring him on every now and again for the last 20 mins when the game’s all but won. Ease him in gradually. An opportunity he wouldn’t have had at Norwich.
But I would have thought an intelligent chap such as yourself could have worked that out without having to have it spelled out.
Interesting plan, but I note that it relies on us being in a position where the game is ‘all but won’. Given that we have rarely won by 2 clear goals this season I can expect to see very little of him then I guess. It also begs the question as to why we loaned him to Norwich in the first place if what you are saying is true – were we expecting them to be pushing for Europe?
We loaned him out to Norwich because we picked up Dempsey at the eleventh hour … another reason why the acquisition of the American was not a good move.
But I take your point about the ‘all-but-won’ scenario. It is something of the weak point in my argument.
For what it’s worth I happen to think Kane’s got a bright future and that all he needs is a goal or two for the first team to get him up and running.
So it was a big name striker you wanted all the time, but never mind eh?
I think my exact line was ‘someone who can do a job’, but not to worry, I know you aren’t too hot on quotes and specifics
but no names though, come on LLL, If you were that concerned you should’ve given AVB or Levy a little clue at least, how else would they know what you want?
Your ‘points’ are becoming more puerile by the minute.
unlike your’s that are not only pointless,stupid and amount to sweet fcuk all,but you continue to try to justify? why LLL.why? give it up man or use a JCB and do a proper job
Put the mirror down Essex, trying to have a conversation here.
Why a mirror LLL? or are you implying I’ve been wrong at any time?
Official club website Unc , also we could’ve made a tidy profit on Siggy, but declined 3 offers from Reading, so where does the money grabbing bastard come into play? After all it’s not as though he’s pulled up any tree’s so far?
So you believe that Reading made bids fir Sig but you choose to believe that our own bids for Moutino last Summer and Damiao yesterday were made up. Very strange!
yeah, because Brian McDermott just said so, read and whine
Please note this is a DIRECT QUOTE..
McDermott did his best to get him back in a blue and white shirt before the transfer deadline passed.
“We tried to bring him back. We had spoken to Spurs and we made three offers,” said McDermott, giving away that it was in fact Sigurdsson and not Blackpool’s Tom Ince that his club were planning on paying a club-record fee for.
“I thought at one stage we had a real chance of doing a deal, but unfortunately, we couldn’t manage to do it.
“Gylfi is a Tottenham player, but we’ve known him since he was 12/13 years old and it would have been great to bring him back.”
And the next topic is…………..?
But he could have been lying, right? Yesterday you were ‘quoting’ sky, only to discover you hadn’t read the quote right, at which point you stopped quoting them as it didn’t suit your argument anymore. You should sign up with the lib dems I reckon. They can always use someone willing to tow the line no matter and contradict yourself at any turn.
LLL: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/reading/9842232/Reading-failed-in-bid-to-sign-Gylfi-Sigurdsson-from-Tottenham-on-transfer-deadline-day.html
You’re a beaten man LLL,go lick your wounds, mind, if you’re flexible, go for it Son!
I heard the Sky reporter clear as fcking day-and never once was a price mentioned, you however choose you spout crap and then try to smear everyone else with it, child!
I was being sarcastic about him lying if you hadn’t noticed, you prize buffoons.
I usually associate sarcasm with intellegence, so I apologize for not picking up on that, but it’s understandable in your case
I usually associate intelligence with correct spelling but beggars can’t be choosers around here.
Oh, that old chestnut, look at your own before pulling up other’s but as this is a football blog not a an English exam,I’ll just assume that’s the best you’ve got and just smile or smirk, perhaps even a little gloat, knowing how wound up you’ve been and knowing I’ve been calling right all along-yes it’s painful isn’t it?
Hollow gloating and saying you have been right all along is really a good way to win an argument. Congratulations. First prize in the smug gormless twat competition.
Clearly not gormless , but where you’re concerned I’m a little smug though-gormless is a fool who doesn’t quite understand how thinhs are, but continues to dig big fcuking holes because they not nothing-that’s clearly you old chap
No argument with ‘twat’ though, I see.
Nope, but if twat is appropiate to someone who clearly understands the way of the world and has made you look the fool you clearly are-I can live with it
Ok twat.
It’s important to bring cheer and love wherever you go. I believe that.
Yes, and I’m sure if you keep up the form of your recent posts, that talksport drivetime slot will be yours, and you can spread your love out to an even bigger audience still
This is what I hoped Jim White would do http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_ZEEgIti8sM
It’s the emergency services that would have to scrape his splattered carcass off the tarmac i would feel sorry for.
Then again, that’s what they’re fucking paid for……….
Going out and spending a lot of cash on a ‘big marquee signing’ isn’t always the answer. Postiga, Rebrov, Chris Armstrong or the cheaper Rasiak remember them. We spent £17M on David Bentley ffs. Saying we should spend £20M on some Brazilian bloke we’ve never heard of and has no European experience doesn’t really make much sense.
Fact is we are 4t with the mob we have got, we have said goodbye to Mr Jenas and got a tip top midfielder – we are in a better position than before so time to get on with it.
Just saying.
I largely agree with that. But the lack of any wide players on the bench leads me to believe that we’ll be seeing Siggy and Dempsey on the wings. Or Walker ffs!
We conned someone into taking Jenas off our hands permanently (and it was Redschnapps of all people – did he have his eyes closed during his reign?)…this should be lauded as the best transfer window since records began, beating the day we stitched Villa up with Hutton into second!!
I don’t know, zokora to seville was a bit special mind you in hindsight we’ve spent the fee on additional pigeon prevention measures
‘arry’s purchase of jenas is priceless, he spent 3 years trying to get rid of him and not playing him, what a chump
You have a point HH and it appears that you were correct about AVB. But I don’t see the need to lump everyone who thinks we should have bought a striker into the same boat as the ones who boo.
And saying that it’s just the best we can do with our 36,000 seats is just wrong. Arsenal did quite well with a similar number of seats at Highbury and in fact have been nothing but worse with their new stadium. The difference for them, of course, was Champions League football and the extra revenue. A club running a loss is not going to get out of it with cost-cutting. Opportunities like we have had over the last few seasons do not come along often for clubs like ours. This is the third consecutive 1 Feb where we sit in the CL places. Each of those years the fans and the press (including the ‘thinking’ press, not just the annoying ones you refer to) have been in broad agreement that signing a top-class striker would be necessary to finish in the CL places. Each year we have failed to do so, and each year we have had it slip away.
We would not be running a financial loss if we had qualified for the CL, unless we spent more than 16-20 mil in extra salary to get there. Saying we can’t buy a striker because of our financial position is backwards. We would not be in this financial position if we had bought a striker – if we had made the necessary investments to hold our competitive position.
You can be provocative all you want, but this isn’t just the attitude of a pot-noodle-culture fan – this is just basic business. You invest, wisely, to grow. We’ve done this. But you also, occasionally, when you find yourself in a good competitive position, have to take measured risks to capitalise on the opportunity. This is where I have a problem with Levy, and I am hardly alone in this. It isn’t being spoiled or radical. It’s straight out of business school. Businesses have ‘inflection points’ in which they may transform themselves with reasonable risk-taking. Businesses that fail to do so tend to fall back into the pack, and the top reason this happens is over-conservative, inflexible management that does not adapt to a changing set of circumstances.
Ade could come back hot from Africa and none of this will matter. I, too, am very excited about Holtby and as we sold Jenas (I can now safely type his name again) and pissed off Alex Ferguson, it’s still a good window (Jenas was making 60k per week, speaking of our budget).
But common sense says we should have bought another goalscorer, as does the press, both intelligent and otherwise. I have not seen a single neutral opinion that says that we did not need to buy a striker. I appreciate your willingness to be your own man and you may even be right. But telling me I am daft for agreeing with the opinion of the other 99.9% is a bit unfriendly, innit?
No one has actually made the connection of players salaries and our so-called transfer budget.
Spend £20m on transfers means not kepping existing players happy. Like Bale, Lennon, Dembele etc.
You cannot have everything.
£13m for Damiou is probably fair. £7m saved.
£7m extra for salaries when contracts need extending to preserve values.
“£13m for Damiou is probably fair. £7m saved.
£7m extra for salaries when contracts need extending to preserve values.”
Topsy turvy thinking there. If I go to the shops with 40p to buy some milk but milk costs 60p and I return with no milk and 40p, do I congratulate myself on saving 20p and say how that 20p can go towards a mug to pour my milk-less tea into? Do I? Or more to the point, do you?
That was the most convoluted rebuttal I have ever read.
And yet all I did was use a simple analogy to illustrate why the original argument was complete gibberish.
Rebuttal?
Pah!
So that is how you go about your shopping then. Explains a lot.
LLL. If ever I need someone to argue my case, it will be you .
Totally agree. I think a lot of rational Spurs fans would have liked to see a new CF – it is an area we have been struggling in and could be the difference between 6th and 4th, or in monetary terms ££ and ££££££.
I agree that if the money isn’t there then we can’t spend what we haven’t got. However, IMO we have enough to have been able to solve this particular puzzle several times over.
Let’s hope Ade returns a new man and Defoe stays fit.
Great post Spurs-Gator…I was just typing (roughly) the same thing. I hate this being told I am like a spoilt child just because I think we need to strengthen in the striker department in order to consolidate our position. Buying a striker does not mean having to shell out 20 odd million, How much did Ba & Michu cost?? This shows there are strikers out there. West Ham took a gamble on Ba, its cost them hardly anything and it paid off, I dont see the difference with us…we have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Anyway, you made my point above, thanks.
Cpt Caveman, I am calling all that won’t stop whining children. I think that whining is typical of children, it’s something they do. So it’s not an unreasonable thing to say.
I don’t know if you’re a whiner or not.
Are you getting on with your life like grown ups do or are you whining on and on that you didn’t get bought a lolly-pop?
So until you declare where you are, it’s a small liberty to suggest you’ve been called anything by me.
It hasn’t happened.
Here Here. For the record, I welcomed AVB with open arms & also thought we needed to get a new facky forward to help out an injured Defoe & two bob Togo’ian (probably wrong spelling). To be referenced to as delusional or retarded seems unfair even with all of the cringe-worthy antics I’m always getting up too Mr Harry.
You said each year we have failed to finish in the Champions League places, i.e. 4th or above.
Regardless of the ridiculous circumstance, we finished 4th last year.
#justsayin’
Well done for taking the time and effort to construct a reasoned and persuasive argument expressing what many of us feel. As it is such, HH wont respond and will instead splurge off another load of half baked polemic tomorrow. And those who deal in trying to twist truths will sit it out too. In other words, it wasn’t really worth your time but I appreciated it and sure others too.
Thank you for announcing I won’t respond. Try sticking to commentating on things that are actually happening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hopNAI8Pefg
Are you going to then? Go on then, the comments section hasn’t really lived up to the laugh factor of the main piece, could do with some more funny.
Spurs Gator, as I said Cpt Caveman I was calling the whiners out. You do not appear to be a whiner. But I think whilst the business sense of invest to grow makes sense, it isn’t that easy in football. It’s easy to shop but to buy well, is not so.
How much money have Liverpool flushed down the toilet? But nobody wants to talk about that, do they? No, they want us to go to this fantasy shop and say to the assistant, ” Morning, can I have a Michu, a Ba and a half a pound of dolly mixtures, please.”
It doesn’t work like that.
Look at bloody QPR! That mental patient Lordy wanted Samba on £100k a week. We cannot support leeches like this. Yes, we could do with better strikers than the ones we have, but this let’s throw away all our old teddies and buy new ones doesn’t work in real life.
Do you think I’m cooing over our front line right now? of course not. But all this ‘this is what we should do’ talk is harmless, but detached from reality.
Wasn’t as funny as it could have been. A bit like Spaceballs the Movie.
No, you are right, it doesn’t work like that, but the way we’ve done it has been a bit extreme.
Again, these are good points – if our fans were really given the choice, time to think about it, and a run-down of some of the consequences, would a majority want to buy Samba on 100K per week? Probably not – or worse, maybe we would.
But it sure sounded like Negredo might have been available – he would have sell-on value and we could give him a nice raise. I have my doubts about Hooper but seeing as we cut him, it’s hard to imagine someone with better intangibles, coming back to the Lane to make good. Were they really available? We don’t know. A lot of these rumours are coming from within the club. Probably we seriously considered these two guys and passed, for whatever reason.
But I think even a signing someone somewhere between a Mido and a Crouch would have at least improved our chances and given us a little insurance against injury. It didn’t need to be a famous international, even though people would still be whining. And people will always whine…I don’t really see the point of ‘calling out the whiners’ when you could have made these stronger points in the main post (i.e., Liverpool’s wasted millions, Samba’s absurd salary, etc.).
Fuck the whiners. No team I have followed or on which I have played has been free of whiners – it’s just part of sports and ultimately it’s just noise in the system. Just because your blog has attracted a lot of whiners doesn’t mean you should make them your audience. Write for the intelligent fan, as you do occasionally. You’ll be practically unique in the world of sports journalism.
BTW, if I were in charge of the club, I would have made some kind of a token purchase even if I couldn’t get one of the people that really could have made us better. Not to appease the whiners, but to appease the other players. Seriously, when Bale wants to leave, and we talk about the ambition at this club, and the bright future, and how he should be a part of that team…don’t you think he might ask, if this club has so much ambition, why haven’t we bought a fucking striker when the whole world knows we need one? I’d be more concerned about our stars whining than our fans…speaking of whining that never stops.
My favourite lines are “Avb was promised this player that player” he’s young but not new to this . People keep over looking that we have Dempsey who has played as striker previously & was diss missed by many idiots before Sundays game & after despite playing as a striker scoring a strikers goal we just have to keep going & Ade coming back in a good mood & with similar form I hope. Children need to stop whining aparantly Lloris,sigurdsson ,dembele,vertonghen,Dempsey & holtby is not ambition enough. I would have liked a striker don’t get me wrong but holtby in for peanuts & plenty of the old guard shifted out with also many talented young players sent out to get experience I think it’s been a good transfer window
More than Happy – Lets hope for the best this season and then let AVB have a proper planning session to review the squad – identify targets with Desperate Dan and get them early
Haha, priceless!
Pricless you say? let’s get him then!
No, lets not, every time the club spends a pound a small puppy dies.
Perhaps you could buy some tut from the club shop, that’ll boost the coffer’s?
I’d go on strike if I could find a striker
For me Levy is doing a great job. AVB has to get the players to play every game and we will be fine.
We can overpay at these times and end up not better than we are
We played absolute crap the past two games, except for two glimpses of greatness
AVB’s job is to get the players we have to perform
Don’t wait for the first Messiah, just do it
spot on, far too many chelsea type fans on here wanting us to spend £30m every window and who cares if it doesnt work, we’ll spend the same the next window as well.
Sadly this is what the SKY/football manager generation are like. Delluded.
And spend another 4 years having them on the books waiting for another mug punter to take them off our hands eh?
yes, thats a lot more realistic
Ron – we have indeed been generally poor in the last two games but no manager secures a great performance from his team every week. None of the three teams above us seem consistently well motivated/are playing consistently well every week or even within a game. Utd are top largely because of RVP and to a lesser extent Rooney.
Achieving 4th will be tough but Holtby looks really promising and will hopefully link well with and/or improve the productivity of Ade, Bale and Siggy in particular and we may just make it.
Klinsmann, poor is an understatement
One thing that your namesake did was
Bring everything to the table every game.
We had an opportunity to secure more 4th and cup money
And we’re sadly Awol.
It’sno excuse
Hit the bar and post 5 times in a game I agree but totally impotent against Leedsand Norwich?? No.
The multi millionaires got a inspired after the Messiah came on…
My view is that this squad of players want to do well for this manager and more often than not they succeed; we are afterall in a creditable 4th place despite this being a season of transition. There are lots of variables that determine the performance of the team – only one of these is the manager’s ability to motivate and as stated more often than not AVB appears to succeed in this regard. However I find myself agreeing with most of what you post (your apparent view of AVB being the exception) and hey there’s probably at least a 50% chance you’re right re this particular point Ron……I guess time will tell! Let’s agree that we need an improved performance against WBA.
Its possible these players want to do well for AVB.I cant see where they wouldnt like him or even respect him but there are aspects to AVB that scare me.
We know that he is a technician,probably a very good one.But if you have a lot of information,sometimes the players might not play intuitively and be thinking too much about what they should be doing.
Its possible.
When it comes to the High Line its a scary place. One bad move and you are dead.As all the players have to be syncronized swimmers to play the other team behind them in the offside trap world.
With saying that the defence generally has been better for most of the season than many years but it doesnt say much.
Avb hasnt been able to control the strike force into a creative unit.
I dont know the problem but more often than not Defoe is marked out of most games and Ade doesnt give all he has got to doing the thing we mostly need…getting on the end of the many supply players balls from inside and out. Many times Bale or Lennon or a Midfielder get the the edge of the box and there in nothing inside.
Dont ask me though.its to do with the players finding space.They have to see it.
The past two games were a shambles. With our team we should have sliced these two. They did not play spectacularly.If that was the case I would say we got beaten by a better team on the day.But we gave them the keys more than they earned it.
I think we have played sporadically good but also apart from these two games quite steady.The Dembele/Sandro partnership is brilliant
Also With Sandro in front of him Vert looked controlled.The backs are iffy but thats not so much AVB thats their quality.
Holtby might well pull together the defence and attack to make us more coherent because we are lacking that final ball. Maybe thats making the strikers look as bad as they are.If Holtby takes a man on (sigg hasnt) and beats him it might just open the box.
Lennon and Bale do it on the wing but the strikers dont get free so much so they usually have a go themselves.
The other point about AVB is whether he can juice them up for a game.They played with no emotion for the past few games.
Have no idea why. We are fourth.2 easy games. What is the problem?
So, my friend KLinsmann I scratch my head.the jury is still out.
It is indeed a head-scratching time (but then I think it is that for all supporters of the top 7 teams at least) and yes I guess the jury has sensibly to remain out…….probably until the end of the first/second season under AVB. Re the motivation issue, I had this simplistic theory that Spurs often came out of the blocks fast, played at what AVB perceived as an unsustainable breakneck pace, maybe scored,then tried to hang on to what they had….. and invariably finished a game on the back foot being dominated because we were exhausted. Consequently I thought/still think he is trying to get us to play in a more meaured, composed way (I think you used the word “steady”). The problem is it’s a fine line between appearing composed and appearing to lack urgency/not looking to be sufficiently motivated…..the outcomes may have even been acceptable at Leeds and Norwich if we had an inform striker good enough to score near the end of the games – we did afterall at least finish both games physically strongly and appeared to be the team more likely to score at that stage. So, enough, I guess we as supporters will keep speculating Ron, about quite was is wrong without us really having sufficient information to properly form a view…..but anyway let’s hope we’re celebrating on Sunday!
Without trying to comprehend even without knowing all,it wouldnt be as enjoyable, Its correctb we really dont know but can only see what is before us and as football has the least of all statistics in sports it just leaves for opinion and that is what makes it so good.
Anyway Klinsmann agree about most and hopefully we can get back on track tommorow
Dancin in the disco Bumper to Bumper, wait a minute where’s me jumper, where’s me jumper, where’s me jumper ????
Pure new wool and perfect stitches
Not the sort that gives you itches, oh no,
Your poem made me laugh out loud at work…..i like.
Poem ??? Golly gosh you toffs…
Its alright to say things can only get better,,,,,,, but you haven’t lost your brand new sweater………….
And my dog will be so angry
I am disappointed not to have got a striker but AVB/Levy have been saying for a while that they only want to buy players that improve the squad instead of just buying anyone for the sake of it. A loan option would have been great but not many clubs want to do business in January it seems unless it is for a big sum of money. I really think though that Ade and Holtby combining could really work well, like when we had VDV. Lets get behind the team now cos there is nothing we can do about it so might as well enjoy it!
Spot on dude…
My dog will be so so angry.
Just to clear it up. i wouldnt want to have seen a striker that made the squad worse bought in . FFS
Dempsey…chances missed..too many control shite. Ade will he wont he..superstar liability chances missed too many….control shite.
Steve Clarke v AVB should be good.
We’re fourth in the league. Of the three teams above us one is (arguably) the biggest football club in the world with a 75,000-seater stadium and a revenue stream we can only dream of, and money is no object for the other two.
All things considered I’d say we’re trucking along quite nicely at the moment.
This sounds a bit like the skipper of the titanic after they hit an iceberg but remained afloat! “No problem we’re still making speed – don’t panic”. It’s called refusing to accept the truth. We’ve got half a striker on steroids and another one who is a shadow of last seaon when he’s actually here, or fit.
The evidence is in our lack of goals for quite some time now, with the sole exception of the game against coventry (not the hardest opposition).
Still lets wait and see and hopefully I’m wrong, but i predict arsenal, everton and possibly liverpool finishing above us.
Strange analogy there spuds,, especially as there was no iceberg… But still nice to see some positivity in the rest of your post !!! Full steam ahead, Land HO !!!
Miserable bugger.
Another one of the “hopefully I’m wrong” brigade.
Everton will burn out with an injury or suspension or two. L’pooh? Nah.
Arse? All up for grabs at our next meeting at the Lane.
It’s all in our hands.
No more draws, please.At least not for a while.
Its either hopefully I’m not wrong or I hope I’m not wrong, only the clappers are too full of their own blind optimism to admit that them being wrong may be a possibility.
What’s happy clapping about my post?
It’s called optimism.
There’s always “I hope that I’m correct…”
It depends on your overall demenour.
But no doubt you’ll choose an argument over a hug, this time.
Nope, a hug will do just fine. Come here Brux!
Is it not time for a reality check? In terms of depth, we are playing in the strongest league in Europe. In terms of capacity, our ground is not even in the top 10 in England, and yet if you look at our form with the exception of the time when Ramos was involve we have not been out of the top five, since before Jol was in charge.
We failed to qualify for the CL this season because of Balotelli and the ref’s incompetence. If the ref had spotted the foul, Manure win the League, Shitty are second, we are third and Arse are in the EL.
Five years ago, before they became they became so crassly nouveau riche, Shitty fans would have traded all their female relations for a top 5 finish every year.
I think if you are looking at this as a business, we have the best Chairman in the league. In terms of available resources, it is a miracle we are where we are. When we have the new stadium, if we are still struggling to qualify for the CL most seasons, that is the time that DL should be called to account.
your reality needs chicken.
Did Levy add a clause into the Janus sale that we get extra money if he makes a forward pass?
Did you seem him Arrive at Loftus. He went to open the reception door and it was locked
Priceless, he looked like a pizza delivery boy 
That Jim WHite has a lot to answer for
Never Mind…..I stopped watching Sky at about 9:30, I had enough fiction for one night. This whole Leandro shite was so diabolical. Why did he wait until the last day ???? Did we even bid for him ??? Did we bid for anyone ??? Total spend for January 1.5 ml give or take. I wont whinge too much, but I do think there was justification for a new striker this window. I thought the most memorable entertainment from the whole circus were the 2 blokes behind your one at Carrow Road and Odemwingie prostituting himself to QPR without WBA’s knowledge 
Bloody snooker knobheads,, good lookin bloke though ! apparently.
Yeah He missed the pink a few times though, bless !!!
Prefers a safe brown, you say ?…
Since we have changed to the 4411 the results have dramatically improved, but I can’t help but feel this squad cleansing could be for the change to 433( AVB’s favoured and had success with formation).
Just go through our squad playing 4411 we look like we couldn’t afford 1 injury yet if you consider 433 we have loads of options and might actually see why people like Sig and Dempsey were so highly thought of( when they are given roles the are use to)
All in all I still strongly believe Ade will decide if we finish in the top 4!
Hmm. So shedding players gives us more options. Hmm.
No changing formation.
Right. Eh. Why is it easier to play different formations with less players again?
gives you options in the shed department… Jenarse in the shed drinking options, that’s an option.
We want Peter Ridsdale !!!!!!!
Levy is a nasty little c***t who’s end game is to make millions out of Spurs. This bloke would sell his own grandmother if he thought he could make a profit Money is his religion. No doubt a brilliant businessman and He has got us into a postion we never thought possible 10 years ago.
But dont think for one single minute he’s doing for you, me, the fans. Its for himself, we’re simply collatera damage. Some fool on here said the other day that He has saved Spurs! From what exactly? If anybody did it was Sugar and at least he had the team at heart.
Its so so frustrating that HR took us to the brink on greatness. As He said, 2 player and we could genuinly challenge for the title. I believe He mentioned a striker & midfielder.
What happens, Levy undermines it all. Just spend enough to keep us floating around 4th/5th/6th and that will do prior to the big sell off. These stadiums cost money and I bet you wont see half the money received for Bale re-invested on players. One can only hope that his wife, a spurs supporter, will pursuade him to sell to someone who has Spurs best interests at heart and not necessarily to the highest bidder.
Levy a brilliant business man, maybe, but you certainly are not !!! Do you think that levy’s master plan is to spend years cultivating a nearly there team ??? even if he is in it for the money, then surely a better team with titles and trophies will be a better product to sell ??…
My simple argument then is, why doesent he invest in top players?
HR said, and most of us know anyway, one top class forward (a problem which has not been addressed since Berba’s departure) and one top class creative midfielder).
You dont have to necessarily spend millions, just the determination to get them.
You reply merely backs my opinion!
Maybe the management have decided that the problem lies in the supply from midfield to the frontmen, ADE, JD and Dempsey are capable of putting away goals, along with breaking in the younger generation occasionally. Holtby is a shrewd move. Times are tough, a reported loss at the club says it all. Selling a player for 30 million does not put 30 million into the bank to splash on some flash in the pan…. There is a football club to be run !!! >Turn off fifa 2013 and see how the real world operates.. We have a better squad now, and in the summer AVB will have the time and the cash to push on and complete his squad.
Are you really blaming Levy instead of HR?
Two players, my backside.
We lost Modders and VdV ffs.
whats to blame HR about?
Losing focus.
Losing a thirteen point lead.
Even with VdV and Modric.
Nuff said.
Totally agreed with that all right but thats not the point Im making.
A football team is, in this case, like a business. You have to keep it growing, improving, etc and not plateau as Levy thinks you can do. Usually the only way is down.
Even last season, surely even you would have said , “if only we had a decent striler…..”
If only WBA had a decent keeper?
Last season we had a decent striker.
Ade.
He’s proved not to be as good this season.
Hope he recovers.
It’s a matter of opinion whether or not we have a stronger squad than last year.
King, Modders and VdV were all good.
Dembele, Holtby, Siggi and Dempsey need to fulfill their promise by the season end.
Then we can judge.
So we cant form an opinion with 4 months of the season left. WTF are coaches and managers for then ?
No, you aren’t allowed to have an opinion until it’s all over. And if we finish 5th or lower, you won’t be able to say I told you so.
So you want to compare 9months to 3 years with a dip at the end.
Go ahead.
What?
“A football team is, in this case, like a business. You have to keep it growing, improving, etc and not plateau as Levy thinks you can do.”
I’d say his first responsibility is to keep it afloat no? Leeds United gambled everything on CL qualification, speculating to accumulate or whatever other business cliché you want to throw into the mix. Want to trade positions with them striker? no? shocker!!
We have the best chairman in the league and even then some muppets think the grass is greener elsewhere somehow!!
Is it frustrating sometimes watching Levy operate on deadline day? of course it is, but equally it’s fucking brilliant when he pulls off a VdV out of left field or makes Man United/Real Madrid haemmorhage cash out of every orifice after unsettling players beyond the point of no return.
VDV hardly played last year and when he did he only lasted 60 minutes the loss of Modric hasn’t helped at all but the way people talk about him its as if he was Glenn Hoddle.
You think of Hoddle?
Where are you in this discussion?
The nineties?
Hoddle was the 80′s
Oh, of course.
But you get my point, don’t you?
What’s gone is gone.
Striker I wish I had your view of the world. It’s intelligence that causes stress, depression all those bad things.
you’re right mate. Im off down the gym to burn it all off.
Love yeah playfullness on this website!
Taxpayer’s expense, no doubt.
What are you in for?
@ striker.
I never could understand these barstards who invested their own money in a business with the intention of making a profit.
Personally, I’d rather keep company with nonces. At least you know where with them. More to the point, you know where your kids are too.
Harry, or son of Harry whatever you call yourself (baby harry?), you aren’t half coming across as a prize hypocrite! Here you are week in and week out moaning like a baby that’s lost its dummy about just about every spurs player in the team at some time or other – calling them chimps or some such childish reference, then today you act like the high and mighty and turn on those who have a view differant to yours (whatever your view is beyond shoving your head up avb’s arse (I’m surprised it fits).
I mean who do you actually think you are beyond a condescending and extremely irritating individual who’s probably a gooner fan judging by your relentless critisism of our team.
Do you have any idea that a team with at least one decent striker and adequate cover for those strikers, is more likely to finish in the CL slots than one that doesn’t – its not rocket science is it? You of all people who have spouted a constant drivel of moans about Defoe, can surely see that. Are our competitors in this silly situation?
Avb euphoria is fine, most of it actually comes from Harry-hating, but eventually that will subside and perhaps finally common sense logic will click in. Then perhaps you will sit back without your harry-hating hat and think “are we actually a better team than last year?” or “Are we going forward or back?”
Time will tell, but i’m not hopeful; you? You’ll probably still be slagging players off left right and centre, anything other than blaming avb – oooh perish the thought.
This is a too one dimensional place for serious conversation anyway.I have an appointment with a dogs arse to keep. Goodbye.
the bloke always writes this inflamatory stuff to get people responding. Thats the game & without that there’s no website. He also pre-empts any opposing view to his – all part of the technique.
And yes, a hypocrire for a sure. On tyhe sound-blog a few weeks ago he was moaning about the fact Levy always leaves it to the last minute.
Take it for what it is I’d would & not seriously.
Have you got any pictures of dogs arses you could send to me here in Broadmoor? Thanks in advance.
been thinking this for a while now, its amazes me some people agree with this drivel
Spent a while?
How long exactly?
If you spend more than a minute thinkingit would be an improvement.
Lordy, Lordy.
As I live and moth breath.
ha ha
hahahahaha, nice touch. (HR, send me your passport photo)
Thank you for that. So once we trawl through all that crap we get you miss Arry.
Diddums.
Nobody that I know is euphoric about AVB.
He hasn’t earned it yet.
HR earned a little…then lost it.
Levy is good at what he does and puts other clubs to shame in his dealings…
He doesn’t do so badly either when not making a bid.
As I said earlier in the piece – he saves us money to enable contract extension, player retention (albeit not Modric or VdV) and value enhancement.
As for coming on here…why bother if you hate it so much?
So your argument is poor AVB for not having VDV or Modric the saviours and that King Levy saves money so we can retain our best players AND then admit he couldn’t save the players that you you believe AVB can’t do anything without.
Where did I say that?
He’s not poor AVB.
We are 4th.
We are behind the richest clubs in the league.
Not bad for a 36,000 capacity ground and a carefully run business with a few very valuable players?
Discuss.
Your arguing that Levy is beyond anyone criticising him because he keeps our best players, two of which you state were VDV and Modric. You then also state that Levy let these two go.
You say all of this above.
We’ve drawn and lost at home to MOST of the poorest clubs in the league.
Harry finished 4th two years out of 3 and a lot of you wanted rid of him, when we were playing more fluid expansive football than we are now.
The man that got rid of him is just as much at fault for not being CL this year as HR.(because he never improved last Jan either)
You keep putting word in my mouth.
I did not say that Levy was beyond criticism.
I did not state that he kept VdV and Modric. Why would I?
I did not say that he let VdV and Modric go. They were “unkeepable”.
If you think we were playing fluid, expansive footy from February to May last season…then you are deluded.
He has to take a share of the blame for not getting us UVL last season…but how can you legislate for HR’s begaviour?
Go back and read my posts you muppet.
I must improve my proof reading…x 100
yes oyu must
You have finished haven’t you, dear?
Have look at your own grammar…no relation involved.
No more word feeding?
No more Levy bashing?
Muppet? bit strong isn’t it?
“Losing a thirteen point lead.
Even with VdV and Modric.”
“As I said earlier in the piece – he saves us money to enable contract extension, player retention (albeit not Modric or VdV) and value enhancement.”
Do you know what “albeit not” means?
It isn’t the German word for work not.
Muppet is quite kind.
Bruxie. I have decided that though there are several other extremely lucid thinkers here, you are the one I will lavish my praise upon.
In my opinion this is the best thing I have ever read from the Blogmeister, and all it needed to make it perfect was your comment.
I wish we were winning every game, and I wish we had two Pele’s, a Eusebio, a couple of Beckenbauers, and Pat Jennings all playing for us now as if they were at their peak, but I also know that what we have now is about as as food as we can get based on our resources.
Putting it into perspective, look at Shitty before the Arabs came along. Even then they had greater resources than us, but we still beat them regularly. How many people remember two years ago when Levy was being castigated for not buying Torres and/or Carroll and/or Suarez. It must be so bloody annoying to those people that slag him, that given time, he usually turns out to be right.
As Bruxie has indicated, if all things were equal, and we had the resources of Cheatski, Manure, Shitty and Barca and RM, we would probably be champions of Europe every year.
Well said Bruxie and Blogmeister.
Again if we don’t have the resources wheres the Moutinho money gone?
Suarez not good enough to play for us? Liverpool will make a profit when they sell him
It’s not his ability that I question. It’s his personality resembling Lee Bowyer that I don’t want in our team.
Notwithstanding that we could not have afforded £30 mill + his wages, what we have seen of him since, does nothing to detract my opinion of DL for not having bought him.
I have not said we don’t have resources, only that we do not have the resources to satisfy those who think Levy is an idiot because yet again, he has failed to buy Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney.
P.S.
You are still reading the blog that you have been thinking about for a while.
Just letting you know…and all that.
You really need to work on your material , but good job keep plugging away.
Does that mean that oyu are finished?
lol
If you think my typings bad…Ronwol will be finished work soon!
Whatever happened to Mus?
I certainly wasn’t in the dark forbodings of AVB brigade but any nugget can see we are short up top if we get injuries, so if we knew dimebar was a summer bid (back in 1987) we should have looked for a cover option, a loan ranger, someone who maybe would fight for a place, we heard lopez, we heard callejon but no dice I’m hoping Ade finds his last year form with Holtby in the VDV role, that sounds tasty and defoe being the super (pissed off) sub coming on and scoring feeling hard done too like the good old days. But why oh why did we sell Jenas? if Dembele gets injured we are fooked
We were quite free-scoring for a while but there was always a chance of it drying up. I’m not claiming that I always knew better but there was a time just before Christmas when I thought to myself “We’re scoring a lot of goals from midfield (Bale) – this might not last and what happens then?” As it happens, we’re still scoring from midfield (Dempsey and Bale) but not as many and the 2 strikers aren’t scoring. I do feel there’s more AVB could do. Switch the system to a 4-3-3 with Carroll playing the ‘Modric’ role. Unproven, you say? Yeah, it will be if we don’t sodding try it! Adebayor might come back hot, Siggy might suddenly turn into super-sub clinching winning goals (he’s been unlucky more than once), but these ‘mights’ don’t really get us away from the fact that spending £10million on someone like Gary Hooper could (or ‘might’?) have fired us into the CL this year. We’ll never know. Sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate. Arsenal, Everton and Liverpool are on our heels and they’re not going away. Not to be the prophet of doom but I genuinely think we’ll finish 5th or 6th and AVB will have to play the ‘transition’ card in public. It won’t be enough for him privately and it might not be enough to hang on to Bale, Vertonghen and anyone else who desperately wanted CL football next season. Holtby is our one hope for better in my view. That’s a lot for him to carry.
Come on.
Why spoil an excellent post with the doomsaying final few sentences?
A decent run of form and we’ll put Arse to the sword.
Everton haven’t the squad in depth.
L’pooh are brittle.
We draw a lot. We’ll be back to a confident team with a couple of wins..
Appreciate the compliment and the doomsaying was actually an after-thought – perhaps I went a tad far? Your optimism is infectious. I hope you’re right
COYS!
What has Hooper done that makes him worth £10 mill? You might recall, that we loaned Celtic a certain Irishman, who couldn’t score in a brothel when he w\s playing for us and couldn’t stop scoring when he played for Celtic
As a league, I think Celtic would have trouble getting into the top half of the Prem, and some of the teams in the SPL would have trouble staying in Div 1.
Yes Hooper has scored goals in the SPL, and he is about as prolific as PSB was two years ago. Yet we could only get £3 mill for Keane.
£10 million for Hooper is milking it.
I’d expect a Reading, Norwich or Villa to have someone like him.
No residual value after the initial outlay.
Nope.
We finally agree about something,Hooper was not the answer.
However there seems to be a fascination that we can only buy players we’ve been linked with in the press have we not got a capable scouting network able to find someone that the average fan in the street isn’t on first name terms with?
The who would you buy then? comment doesn’t cut it
I’d have bought Miralem Pjanic and let him be our Modric orchestrator. Apparently, AVB didn’t want him. He’s onsessed with Moutinho from what all the ‘guys with sources’ reckon. Can’t wait for that ol’ rumour to appear again in the summer. Along with that Brazilian No.9 we’ve been after since 1991 or something.
We agree on a few things, no doubt.
Mainly, that this site is a jolly good discussion forum.
Never mind what TBH says. He only starts the discussion. Then buggers off.
That’s what Celtic want for him. He’s scored in the Champions League as well as the SPL… (Cue barrage of awful players who have scored CL goals…)
Including ours?
Ade.
Against us.
True, but I don’t think he’s awful. Good player, troubled mentality. If AVB can get him on song again (and leave Defoe on the bench) he’ll be like a new signing. As I said earlier, there are things AVB can try that might alter the course of events. I like the guy a lot but whether he’ll have the balls to try them, we’ll see.
Again, putting it into perspective, we have the second longest unbeaten run in the PL after Manure.
At the moment, there isn’t a team in the league that has two straight wins to their name. Based on form over the last six games, we are third to Manure and Shitty. I don’t see Liverpool catching us, and were it not for the two late goals Everton scored against us, we would already be thinking of them as also rans.
During the meantime, I am wondering if any of you have seen the “Hitler piss takes” on Youtube. I have an idea that this year, Arsenal Fan Hitler is going to be upset when Spurs stop them qualifying for the CL.
In case you don’t know what I am talking about, here is one example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zs0IRiJN4A
I am really am looking forward to someone’s efforts on this.
On a serious note, I was intrigued by this revolutionary blood spinning treatment they are using on Defoe’s injury. It got me to thinking: I wonder if they took Walker’s brain out, spun that around a bit and popped it back, perhaps it’s improve his defending.
“On a serious note…”
Your sense of humour is a thing to behold.
You make a straightman seem funny.
Give it up and return to Mr. Argumentative.
How cruel. I thought it was rather amusing. You’ve hurt my feelings bruxie.
I can hear a collective “aaaahhhhhh!”
And what has your sexuality got to do with it?
Lame.
Turgid.
Stay serious…your comedy career is over.
You died online!
Yours is just warming up. You could be the new Syd Little. Not quite as charismatic and much less funny but twice as straight.
What s the betting we finish 4 th and this blood spining turns out to be ileagal and we have points taken off us
I have just realised that though tghis might make me appear to be a schizo, I do believe we need a striker, but not so desperately that we would be grateful if Ken Bates came along to rescue us.
Yes, we could certainly use Ronaldo, and Messi, but they would probably send us bust!
Just see, Harry Kane’s been recalled!
I’m having sausage, eggs and chips for tea tonight…..my favourite!
Jeez…have you seen the price of tomatoes!
I see what you mean. Now that’s how you do a joke. Tommy Cannon, watch out, there’s a new straightman in town.
All the players mentioned are not prolific H. I know the culture you lament of and it is bourne out of frustration. A number 9 in the summer. a prolific one and that. It is crucial we buy a Goalscorer. A Prloific striker. We require a striker of the prolific kind. Terrific prolific. Words.
I agree with you. In the summer the market will be less ‘hostile’ as is it’s wont and we have time to get a plan in place to give the Spanish Archer to whoever sucks the most.
Word. Summertime. Prolific. Terrific.
Just been reading a Sunderland post from the matrix Newsnow and they are pleased young Gylfi Siggs won’t be facing them after we rejected Readings advances.
It smacks of the Pienaar fall and rise. As soon as he leaves he’ll be that sparkling skillful playmaker we all thought would come good. I’m still hoping he will. His performances last year promised so much..
Added to which we’ll be able to offer Champions League football to whoever wants to join us…
Totally agree with all that Sir HH. Personally I would like a new car but my credit card bill has put me in the red. Think back to the last set of financial resuilts, we posted a loss so therefor it would seem idiotic to blow money we do not have on a striker.
We are currently 4th, yes I would like to improve the team, but then to end up like another Leeds then the answer is no, lets just be prudent and pragmatic.
All the whingers on here, have you ever run a multi million pound business? If so, then yes you possibly have the right to have your say, if not then lets keep the support going and back the team and manager.
I understand frustration over not getting in a striker, and I hold my hands up I would have liked one. With a selfish/in-effective Defoe and a so far ineffective Ade, the case is/was strong. Not forgetting if we get an injury crisis things could be very iffy and Townsend and Falque are now on loan.
BUT, we have what we have and the 36, 000/financial situation/DL is the dog’s chairman arguments are also strong.
I think Spur’s fans frustration is more fear………….the fear of being so close, but falling by the CL wayside again.
It’s not really DL’s fault if Ade who was pretty decent last season, but before he went to ACN was not. It’s not his fault if Vertonghen suddenly is pretty pants for his last 3 outings. It’s not his fault if Dembele, who was class at Fulham, isnt yet class at his new home. It’s not his fault Sandro is out and Parker and Dembele aren’t clicking.
We have to get behind the team and be positive, if we don’t get 4th, then we can have a post mortem, but we are still 4th and our rivals for that illusive spot are in a bit of a mess as well (L’Pool/Arse) and Everton have a really paper thin squad, and let’s not forget things over at Chelsea aren’t exactly rosey (or is that Rosie?)…………..
BTW, HH stop whingeing ffs!
I can’t help it, I’m a natural born naturist whinger!
Right next article TBH,, before your warm milk and cookies….
Why would be like Leeds? We would suddenly be 100 mil in debt. How about some decent scouting for a start. Bar the fuck up that is Bentley we have made good money on our dearer players, and broken even on many others
Its strange how many multi million pound businesses have been involved in fraud, price fixing while paying crazy bonuses.
Sorry to moan.
How much does Daniel Levy get paid ? Anyone know?
He gets paid out of our revenue of course. His salary will be protected regardless of profit or loss.
1,800,000 Pounds for the year ending June 2011. It will be higher, probably this year.
“Clint Dempsey is a bit American, but he’s ours.”
Laughed at that. Yes guys, please don’t hold Clint’s unspeakable Americanism against him. Taint his fault where he were born. If he had some weird US/Midlands mash up of an accent like Big Brad, you’d all love him!
Ah c’mon SSG you know I was only joshin’ (I believe that’s what you types do, prior to a ‘hangin’.
The point I was of course making is that the armchair generals out there, love to start signing death warrants at the very same speed they sign ‘this week’s messiah.’
Clint’s twang is far preferable to a Midlands accent, got to be up there with the worst……………remember Noddy Holder when he spoke ………………
:cover ears emoticon
Noice.
True dat, H, so let’s stop the fussin’ and a-feudin’
Kipper toy
I thought the Deuce was Texan
TBH I didn’t get the Deuce in the beginning but now I do and he may be a bits and pieces footballer but those bits and those pieces add up to 8 goals and 4 or 5 assists.
He’s effective is what he is and apart from his lack of pace he’s pretty much an AVB type of player.
he also has a remarkable record of scoring against the goons which I’m hoping continues
if we utilised him properly we’d get a lot more out of him
he also broke Terry the dog’s cheekbone, tough old fucker
That last will always be the the crowning achievement on his CV in my books.
Clint does exactly what it says on the wrapper: a decent attacking player who is versatile enough to cover a few positions. World class? Not a bit, but a good option to have and will have a decent goal/assist return and will always show effort and desire. He is “shit” only if your yardstick is Ronaldo or Messi.
I’m not saying he’s shit at all, I’m just saying that of all his achievements, I value breaking Dog Terry’s cheekbone most highly.
Not directed at you, 3L or at anyone in particular. I just get a bit tired of the groans and cursing at every non-scoring/assisting touch from Dempsey.
And he looks like Iron Man.
Is that on his CV? I’d leave it off if I was him. People tell me I look a bit like Father Dougal but I’ve never seen it as any kind of personal achievement.
I hope that “i” is not meant to be an “n”
I would have loved to see Damiao sign. From what I am told he would have made an impact. However, this would have been masking over the real problem. We have too many players in the squad that for one reason or another are not challenging for a first team place. Too many players in our team know that they will be picked no matter how bad they play . This window we made some proper in roads in dealing with this. The players loaned out should come back stronger – Gomes may repair his reputation enough to earn a deal in the summer. Very few top sides carry around as much dead weight as us. Good to see Harry Kane back -he now has the opportunity to shine.
Kane didn’t set Norwich alight. I doubt he’ll get a game. He’s injured I think. I was checking up on his progress and judging by whats been said by the Norfolk redknecks, he wasn’t much kop.
I was hoping he could come back with experience and slot in but its unlikely. Seen enough to know. COYS @ The hawhouse on Sunday. 2-1 To the Mighty Spurs methinks. Bale 1st scorer. 35/1. Two headed Sex Beast.
He only played five games! He had his ankle broken in the second of those so it’s hardly surprising he didn’t set the world alight. He’ll be a more than decent striker for us I’m sure once he has a couple of goals under his belt.
He’ll never amount to anything. he has to get games under his belt before the goals go under also. Alls i know the Norwich fans felt Hoolanhan was better. Alls i’m sayin.
Kane will fade faster than my xmas Primarni jumper. :Amazed:
My view on the latest window is quite simplistic:
We’ve got ourselves up to a certain level – top 4 ish
To go forward we need a different class of player – top to world class, hopefully we’ve stopped buying crap players so recruitment is going to be much harder or more expensive from here in
Unfortunately there isn’t many of those type of players especially at prices we can afford within our current business model.
Levy’s previous buying strategies have got this far by hook or crook but to the jump the next level serious investment will be required. He & Lewis only own 85% of spurs whilst there are other shareholders further investment will be difficult to apportion. This will apply to the ground scheme as well.
I’ve said it before and will say it again – we’re at a sliding doors moment – stick or twist?
Alot depends on the reality of the new stadium , if its going to happen under ENIC and if funding is buy and large in place. I assume that if you are going to build a new stadium 20,000+ larger than the current one enough consumer/supporter desire needs to maintained or increased to make the whole thing work.
Dont twist Sliding Doors.
Striker we should have signed…..
Frazier Sergi Helder Raziak….. otherwise known as Mido….
Heard we could have signed him for a few kabobs and a basket (not a bag) of chips…..
I have a feeling that Townsend was the gift for taking J&*^*^… Think about it. A month ago he was off to see a specialist here in the states for his achillies after maknig maybe 4 appearences for Forrest. Now he’s gone….
Well strike a light. (striker light ?)
Hate to say it but I found myself nodding in agreement with the blog.
Think (hoping really, fingers crossed) Holtby might be for us what Fabregas was for the arse.
fabregas did nothing for my arse.
Terry Venables once said, “If history repeats itself, i should think we can expect the same thing to happen again.”
He weren’t wrong,the slimy toad.
Little Ian was in his nursery class in Essex when the Teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living.
All the typical answers came up – Fireman, Policeman, Tesco Shelf Stacker, etc…..Ian was being uncharacteristically quiet and so the Teacher asked him about his father.
“My fathers an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off all his clothes in front of other men. Sometimes if the offer is really good , he’ll go out to the alley with some screamin fag and take it up the ass.”
The Teacher, obviously shaken by the statement, hurriedly set the other children to work on some colouring, and took little Ian aside to ask him, “Is that really true about your father ?”
“No” said Ian, he plays Football for Queens Park Rangers, but i was too embarassed to say.”
Essex…….Ian………
Essexian?
“The conversation about buying another striker is a brief one. Would I like one? No, I’d like a dozen. But the reality is 36,000 seats to sell every fortnight and existing staff on contracts. You cannot play fast and loose with facts in order to assert a daft argument. You can, but you simply end up looking …well a bit daft.”
The need for a striker was one identified by AVB and DL or there would have been no bid to Internacional; the assertion that any angst at the failure to succeed in that bid is somehow disloyal or a political position (in the ongoing game of ‘arry seperation anxiety) is wide of the mark. AVB is putting on the company face and selling the company line, but the facts are that he’s wanted Leandro and Mouthino and Levy has not said no, but has failed to deliver.
There is no argument about the need for a striker (see above) and most I feel, like myself, believe that given where we are in the scheme of things, we need to be looking at a spend of @20 million. The need is not just knee jerk, its just plain sense….
Apart from the push we need to secure CL against the Goons, a slowly resurgent Liverpool and the well drilled consistency of Everton, we need to pretty much overhaul the forwards in the coming year or so. Ade is unreliable, Defoe inconsistent, Dempsey not really a forward. We need two class strikers and then to be on the look out for a third over the next 12-18.
Strikers are simply not the same as they were, how many can anyone name that have more than a few seasons at the top, even Henry was only up there for 4-5 years; the last genuine career (10+ years) striker was Shearer. Like sharks constantly growing new teeth, we need to keep the front end sharp, not with career players, but with in form mercs who do the business, then get moved on.
Back on point, the disappointment I feel is that we (the manager, chairman and the fans) have identified the areas we need to strengthen, have identified who we believ are the best options and then failed to do what was necessary to make to happen. I suspect there is some truth in the stories about DL playing the game, bidding short and clearly (with Mouthino) not doing the due diligence required.
I feel that he’s essentially bet the difference in valuation, lets say 4 million(?) in getting a strong centre forward, with the hope of cashing in 20-30 million by getting CL without one….. let’s call that a 6/1 punt.
I have supported Daniel Levy and still do, but his intransegence is a two edged sword and I fear we could be the ones feeling the blade if the nap of the cloth is not with us.
Well said. Reading most of these arse lickers you’d be forgiven for thinking that they all paid for their houses in cash in case they ‘done a Leeds’.
Hear Hear, Finn. Good to see that there are a few more who aren’t either wide-eyed, knuckle dragging dimwits enthralled by the cockeyed, cack-brained, haughty, tabloid bum-gravy up top or else brooding zealots who turn psychopathic at the slightest, floating waft of blasphemy against their God.
More of this please!
Listen to yourselves. We’re the 13th most valuable club in the world, but went into a competitive game without a recognised striker in the squad, yet you still try to justify it. The delusion runs deep in these parts. Perhaps if some of you were able to pull your head out of Levy’s arse (a difficult task given how tight it is, and how big some of your heads are) you just might stop talking shite. Why are you so protective of a regime that has won pretty much fu(k all in over a decade? Cue the ‘do a Leeds’… ‘poor little Tottenham’…. ‘realists’…. ‘new stadium’ nonsense, or anything else you can make up so that you don’t have to face up to the fact that you’re wrong.
I’m not wrong I’m always right according to myself
whilst I agree on the recruitment issue I can also see the bigger picture which is the sort of striker we actually “need” is going to cost big big money, money we don’t have at the moment
regardless of what we think of levy and lewis, the clubs very stable, the team is in better shape than expected, the plans are passed and some works are underway albeit the supermarket
They have a really tough task TMWNN, the numbers on the development scheme are frankly hideous, I pride myself on being a bit of a jedi master when it comes to property development and I wouldn’t touch that scheme with someone else’s money let alone my own dough. I’ll be very surprised if it ever gets built without virtually bankrupting us. I’m hoping Joe Lewis wants his name in lights over the ground as personally I think that’s the only way it will get built.
whilst it’s clear we have shortcomings up front, personally I haven’t seen too many options for us around.
maybe the smart move is to play the hand we’ve got rather than gamble on another ‘darren bent’ quality player
“whilst I agree on the recruitment issue I can also see the bigger picture which is the sort of striker we actually “need” is going to cost big big money, money we don’t have at the moment”
This is spurious. If we are to believe that we were bidding 20m for a midfielder last Summer, and we have just added one for 1.5m then by my mathematics we have 18.5m – at the least – in the transfer kitty. And yet we bid 13m for AVB’s key target Leandro – a figure guaranteed to receive a very short ‘no fukcing thanks’ and delivered on deadline day so as to generate ‘talks breakdown at last minute’ type headlines.
Unless the bids allegedly made for Moutinho were also PR. After all, some Portuguese outlets reported no such bids being made. In which case we really should wonder what he’s actually up to, right?
And moreover, talking of past wastes of money are quite pointless. Even when we had Bent, we also had 3 other strikers if my memory serves me well. To equip a squad with 2 forwards and instruct your manager to achieve nothing less than CL is nothing short of negligence in my opinion.
sorry to disappoint you but the money ain’t there, the money we got off modric deal went on dembele and lloris, look at spur’s accounts it’s in black and white how much cash/borrowings there are in the business – we owe quite a bit of dough and have limited cash surpluses available. We murdered the CL revenue with wage increases and haveonly just paid off the relegation avoidance spending spree.
Levy & Lewis have a plan and thus far it doesn’t involve spending their own cash so whinge and moan all you like that’s how it’s always been and probably how it will remain
moutinho was a crock of shit, the player wasn’t even in portugal or england, his agent was in monaco and from memory you need the player to at least have a medical in order to close a deal let alone sort out the 3rd party ownership bullshit.
The bent comparison just highlights how spending big money doesn’t always equate into getting a top player
Well like I said, the Moutinho thing was not only widely reported, it was commented on by AVB himself and the story certainly seemed to be emanating from the club. Yes, the media will occasionally fabricate stuff entirely but they prefer to pick up dog ends and scraps from ‘sources’, and I’d suggest that the source of the Moutinho ruse – if that’s what we are to believe is what it actually was – was the club. In which case the supporters are being strung along with bullshit, right?
Forget Dembele, the real expenditure over the past couple of years
is the training ground at 60m+. On the one hand it is a sound investment and one we as fans can hope will eventually yield results in the future. On the other hand, it could appear more to be a part of investment directed towards making the club appear saleable to a would be buyer sometime in the not so distant future. After all what use is a 60m+ training ground when you then can’t afford to equip your first team adequately?
You can’t put the cart before the horse, jfdit. You can’t totally neglect the most important department of the team whilst waiting for the new stadium. We’re a professional football club unable to field a striker ffs. Compromises will have to be made, but doing nothing is plain dumb.
yes I agree but next week we could have both ade and defoe fit and on the pitch so that argument would be immediately redundant
the stadium issue is the elephant in the room which no one bothers to debate, I can honest say I’ve not read one article on any spurs site which has drilled the numbers to see if the fecking thing is remotely viable, even spur’s planning application is the wooliest piece of planning mumbo jumbo I’ve ever read
my view is again simple, if it stands up why ain’t it being built? The london property market is as buoyant as it’s ever been whilst build costs are at their lowest for a generation – any scheme will get funded if it makes sense
The notion of having Defoe and Ade on the pitch together doesn’t make the complaint redundant, it makes it all the more stark – since AVB has come to favour a 4-4-2 system, the need for an added option in attack is even more urgent. After all, we don’t just have 2 centrebacks on our books, right?
“yes I agree but next week we could have both ade and defoe fit and on the pitch so that argument would be immediately redundant”
With respect next week could also see Dempsey get injured, Ade throw a hissy for a few weeks and Defoe takle a turn for the worse and have to go under the knife.
In business terms we are looking at risk management, contingency planning and opportunisty cost. In terms of what we could get, we might have signed Daimio, or Negredo or if we’d moved earlier even Llorente, but we didn’t. Clearly the view was that one part of the equation outweighed the other, a view I find difficult to agree with given the existing need for a sharper cutting edge and cover for a fragile strike force AND the need to overhaul that strike force over the next 18 months.
Levy and AVB agree with at least part of this or they’d never have been speaking to Internacional in the first place. The need is not in question by anyone short of a few folk whose optimism is applaudable but toothless.
I’ve support the team, the manager and the Chairman, but passes go astray, sitters are missed and chairman make mistakes. If its a one off you might give them a pass, but we have twice lost key signing at the death and if it were Defoe taking penalties that resulted in points lost in the dying minutes of two consecutive games, you’d ask questions about who should take the next one or what the coaching team could be doing. There’s no lack of support or disloyalty in crticising The Chairman’s handling of this or indeed his style in handling these situations, any more than there is critisicing Walker or Bale playing on the Right or Gomes dropping a cross.
let’s get one thing clear
I agree we need to upgrade our strikeforce – no debate req’d
defoe’s career is nearly done and ade looks disinterested with life under AVB
my beef is that to upgrade these two is going to serious conkers which levy appears unwilling to fund
do I want levy to buy big, oh yes but I’d also like us to buy clever – we need a partnership up front not two wankers looking at each wondering if they’ll ever get a decent pass off the other
we live in hope and good night
With respect, jfdit, you may be a big shot property developer, but I’m guessing your qualifications as a football scout don’t quite match. Our current scenario up top is hardly one that couldn’t be foreseen, but is the result of failing to target the rigjt players over the last half dozen windows.
You seem angry lad,have you been sneering over a few pints down the local.Could you tickle my fancy and tell me who’s arse I’m licking?you can’t be too careful these days.
You want him to tickle your fancy while your licking someones arse?
Have I clicked the wrong link?
we’ve spent the last three years trying cull the bloated squad to get the wage bill under control – again look at the accounts you’ll see how much it jumped when we qualified for the CL, failure to qualify again meant it needed to be cut significantly
I’d agree on the scouting issue (and by the way I’m not a big shot, just quite shrewd/profitable) and the club’s failure to recruit the right players despite other clubs managing to do so, our scouting system is shite end of story, our best scout was allowed to leave for newcastle and they appear to unearth a fair bit of talent now. I’d like to think most older spurs fans are good judges of players, we know a good player when we see one as we’ve seen plenty of shite in our lifetimes
We appear to overpay for dross especially if it’s english and the few successes we get are outnumbered by the deadwood we seem to accumulate. I’m puzzled why our scouts don’t see players like michu, ba, cisse, cazoria, kagawa and hernandez before they become household names. What do they do all day?
a mate of mine works for chelsea and always laughs at the money we throw at ‘not so great’ kids in our youth set, so it goes deeper than our 1st team scouts
We are not the 13th most valuable club in the world, we have the 13th highest cash turnover. You can hardly criticise those people who give reminders of “Leeds” when you don’t know the difference between “turnover” and “value”.
Yes Cheatski would never waste £50 mill on a dud striker would they?
Daniel got his fingers burnt with bent,he hasnt been the same in the transfer market with strikers since.
We made our money back on Bent – 10m rising to 16m including sell-on clauses (Villa paid 20m or whatever the fcuk it was).
Bentley on the other hand, what a crazy idea that was. Especially as we already had Lennon at the time.
Bentley made a lot of sense at the time.
His stock was rising, he was tipped as the next Beckham, he was getting rave reviews.
And, also at that time Lennon was a member of the nancy boys club with Jenas and Huddlestone.
…and was also the centre of speculation as being the next Beckham at Old trafford!
Lennon was fine and Thudd was too. Within about 10 games Lennon had won back the place he had no place in losing in the first place. Don’t think you remember it properly. 15m for Bentley who shone for 1 season in a slow stodgy Blackburn side was always pretty crazy, and Commolis downfall
Have you a recording of Bentley making sense.
Don’t agree with you there. I always rated Lennon.
looking forward to the summer sales when we get a new striker
We need a quality goalscorer.
Big miss on our end. Kovacic that is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1uJH6dlNMo
http://www.london24.com/sport/avb_hits_back_at_tottenham_striker_concerns_1_1856857
This is beginning to do my head in,MAN at C&A OR LITTLEWOODS CATALOGUE circ 1970
somebody tell him will ya, go on benny lol
He has to be bullish in the circumstances but that interview smacks somewhat of clutching at straws. ‘Defoe has been lethal this season’ – well, maybe but that seems to be a distant memory to me. Then saying he hopes Gylfi will score some goals. So do I but what says it will happen? And that we can also try the ‘Bale running through the pitch and scoring a solo wonder-goal’ tactic.
Sounds like he knows he’s been stitched up as much as we do, he just has no choice but to put a brave face on it.
against kiev in Champions League. boy is not even 20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrgapZgBBkQ
AVB have not brought a single player. All our transfers were done by coach Levy. Another reason I can’t wait to see Boas back. He is incapable of putting pressure on Levy. Incapable of putting pressure on a team to play at 100% against weaker teams. What are we 10 points or more behind vs last year? That’s a lot of points.
VB needs backing not sacking, but with Levy at the helm, he’ll be chasing his tail: last year Modric and VdV, next year Bale, Sandro..?Forever just one or two players short with ENIC. There could be a lot worse owners, but the way some of you kowtow to Levy, especially the chief boot licker from Essex, is vomit inducing.
Your predictions are about as useful as chocolate fire-guard, in fact I’ll predict you’ll be on here whining and moaning regardless of any finish the club manage.
You whine and bleat about not signing big names and so on, but whine and bleat about the players wages-surely one causes the other? You whine and bleat about the price of tickets you whine and bleat about fans who actually put their hands in the pockets and buy ‘tut’, yet I notice you do neither? so, in essence you’re a useless article-who knows bugger all and contributes nothing! As for boot licking? how does that work exactly? perhaps agreeing with how the clubs run given the circumstances and what we’re achieving is boot licking-then yes, but that’s really because of a lack other viable alternatives!
As for vomit inducing-whenever you’re next on your bi annual visit to the Lane-have a word with TBH hotspur, and get my E Mail address, we’ll have a bit of meet up and you can state your case face to face with me instead of the comfort of a screen-how does that sound?
Your beginning to sound(in my head)like Johnny Cash,which is a good thing.
He’s probably still giving himself head, I guess not having a spine helps!
A straightener? What fisticuffs? Add me to the email list. I’ll hold the coats.
Film it
I get some of the kids to film it on their camera phones and put it on youtube.
How an you Happy slap that miserable prick?
http://spurs.theoffside.com/team-news/levys-catastrophic-blind-spot.html
Its a good bit of hindsight to say that if we would have scored one more goal last season we would be in the CL and a 15 mil striker would have put us there.
First of all Levy is looking for a 30 million striker for 15 million as 15 million strikers we have now. And what about the wages? It all works back to the stadium and gambling and the only time Levy has gone out of the comfort zone was to to save us from the drop.
Its not easy to find that one player.The money is in the bank for the right one and Im sure it will happen eventually.
Our striker situation is our weakest link now for sure but finding the right man at the right cost is not easy.
He’s not looking at a 30m player, that’s what these clubs are demanding, and the point is the clubs these sort of players are with are not starved of resources.
There isn’t a simple answer, as you’ll note all the whiners complain about us not buying a ‘World Class’ striker or even a decent one, but you’ll observe the lack of names mentioned.
When Celtic can turn down 7m for a player not worth a fraction of that-the problem is evident-well, it is in the real world anyway!
The future has to be manufacturing players.We have the new training facility.Its not for nothing.We will be about manufactiuring. Get two young strikers develop both and sell one.
Its wholesale with a retail outlet
i was pondering the other day….
with our training facility and scouting network, could we have a spurs ‘B’ team playing in the lower leagues. The rules would be the players are not over 19 years old and no matches played at a “home” ground – giving more money to the lower league clubs and ensuring that the ‘B’ team doesnt get too established. This would then allow us to sell these players if they are not up to the task (developing home grown talent for the rest of the clubs) and keep the promising ones, allowing them to make the reserves?
we could also train coaches from this pool of players, keeping the coach of the ‘B’ team for two seasons only – also providing fresh new managers for the future.
Spurs – a club with only homegrown talent winning major honours, developing young players for the lower leagues and ensuring new hungry managers and coaches for the future of the english game.
Tottenham Hotspur – the savior of english football!!!!!!
I think just like shops are now chains that the same thing will happen in football.But not in the same country.
Manufacturing,wholesale and retail.
Teams have partners around the world and up to now havent done too much with it but it will become world wide organizations manufacturing and developing their own brand and style.
We have bought success or not over the ages but the time will come when the very best will be impossible to buy if they are not already so manufacturiing and sending them off to different market partners to play will get bigger and more organized in the future.
I honestly couldn’t agree more. If you take’the mob across the street’ as an example. They’re about 150m ahead of us in revenue pa, they have 60k per game, and reportedly more intake each match day than Real or Barca, yet when the ‘big clubs’ come after their players, they can’t compete. We are still some way off them, let alone the next grade up, so the short-longer term answer has to be nurturing our own-and using the system as we have with Holtby and buying the likes of Lennon at a young age from elsewhere. It makes perfect sense, unless you’re hoping for an Abramovic or Mansoor purchase that is!
@Calebray.
Pretty sure it would be against the rules. There are all sorts of conflicts of interest.
How many of us last year were desperate that he made Ade a permanent fixture.
Dub, I really don’t think DL wanted Ade tbh, but again reading between the lines, I got the feeling the real targets were playing hard ball, and these appeared to be the distinct possibility that we’d end up with a real problem.
Firstly if what we read had a semblance of truth. Moutinho’s people buggered about, so Dembele was available for 15m cash buyout-now, Leandro by all accounts was ‘almost’our’s, and again going by the wording it appears we’ve reached the end, so you can suppose, there were goal posts moved, and Ade and Dempsey solved the problem?
if you look at the dates of our signings it’s easy to associate them with Levytime, but I think it’s also a fair assumption that they were last minute plugs for longer term holes?
Beyond the scouting there is the complication of the arrival of AVB a completely different coach to anything we’ve had before with (for us) revolutionary ideas.
Andre looks for players who have more than one string to their bow. Vertonghen is a classic example of this and even Lloris plays as a Keeper come Sweeper. He wants players who can adapt to situations and encourages them to take the initiative so if a central defender sees a chance to attack he does it and likewise another player will cover for him.
So AVB is very particular in the type of player he wants to buy which reduces the potential acquisitions more than somewhat.
I like the cut of AVBs gib but he needs time to get a team together that plays his way. If we are in it for the long term and want a team that challenge for the Prem etc we need to give the project time and accept that anything we achieve this season is a bonus.
Saw this up on News Now…Feast your eyes Spurs Supporters 1.5mil and a genius…
http://www.tothelaneandback.com/spurs/2013/2/2/lewis-holtby-and-his-debut-video.html
Holtby looks like he’s got it all. Many rush to criticise our dealings this month but we’ve got rid of Carlo, Heuralio and JJ and brought in two younger players with loads of potential for no money.
I think we all want the same thing and are frustrated at the weak link in the box.
We point it all to the strikers when other players havent been focussed enough and fans are willing to spend Levy’s money with no risk to them.
For me I wished we could get a striker that would put the game away. Watching Holtby though and seeing this vision for just a few short minutes you can see his acumen and talent.
To me Silva at City is fantastic.He creates goals. Modric never quite did that,he just seemed to get the ball rolling.Holtby in one swoop gave us that.He saw the space.
Hopefully he will motivate the others as he did when he came on.
Levy is a shrewd businessman and a conservative one.Im hoping when he finally decides on a striker that whatever price he pays it will be worth waiting for.
i dont think its a case of saving up for a striker. I think its a case not clogging up the cash flow. Let the bit part and wasters leave, free up the wage bill and then buy who we actually need in the long term.
do we feed more “could be better” players in now meaning we dont get what we are craving for later down the line.
wages are our stumbling block for the next few years, not transfer fees.
coys and coygfg
Calebray strikers dont have set prices like 29.95 or 35.95 so we are not saving up for a striker. We are just holding the cash waiting for the right player at the right deal.
The problem is the lack of quality for the price. Levy doesnt pay retail for anything.
Striker this Striker that :Conceited: :Conceited:
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Anyone remember STRIKER magazine from the 70′s ?? It was a copy of this that i bought for 15p from my mates older brother that put me on my lifelong sentence of following SPURS !
Striker this Striker that
Anyone remember STRIKER magazine from the 70′s ?? It was a copy of this that i bought for 15p from my mates older brother that put me on my lifelong sentence of following SPURS !
Yes there was also a ‘ Striker’ annual which I swapped for a can of Shandy bass and 20 No 6.
Shandy Bass,, my oh my, there’s a memory right there !!
My wife saw the length of the E76 and LLL argument yesterday and said that they had probably spoken more to each other that day than to their own wives. I put her straight of course, (by text). Everyone knows that LLL couldn’t possibly have a wife.
That’s true, but even my dumbest dog understands the club I support, LLL however is another matter entirely? As for my wife, she supports Millwall, you tell her?
I don’t understand the club I support. This is the best insult you can muster now. Give it up Essex, go and kick the dog. Or shag the wife. Or the other way around as is your want.
clearly you’re just an idiot with nothing better to do, go and bore someone else eh? As you clearly pointed out at least I’ve got options
I can’t be bothered to speak to you to be honest. I thought I’d get some level of intelligent conversation. But I can see that on this thread that quickly breaks down to pointless insults when your argument wobbles and finally ends in a pathetic invitation to a fight to sort it out like tough guys.
well fuck off then there;s a love!
Who said anything about a fight? you silly silly, person!
Amusing slur aside, congratulations on finding a wife, there is hope for me yet. But I do have to wonder: Why do you show your wife this page?
I didn’t show her it, she saw it. Why do you have to wonder how my wife saw the page?
It’s impressive, I thought these Thai brides usually didn’t speak any English.
Hahaha. You’d know more about that than me. Is that what they tell you when you apply? They’re probably just pretending because they’ve heard how argumentative you are.
Haha. Way to take my joke and then use it back on me. Way to do that.
Way? Oh dear.
Is that it? I’m disappointed. I think you can do better than that. Way better.
he is both the bride and groom-haven’t you heard of a Ladyboy?
How we did this transfer window we will find out very shortly.