Date: 3rd December 2018 at 1:58pm
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The benching of Toby Alderweireld was surely Poch’s way of managing the Belgian’s expectations for the summer.

Pochettino who is ordinarily so measured with youth players suddenly decide that Foyth was the superior player for this North London Derby.

So was it bad decision? 

Well, beyond an abysmal passing accuracy percentage of just 63.6%, he had a kind of a good game.

Which somewhat applauding a surgeon for his punctuality and meticulous record keeping, despite that fact very few of his patients survive their surgery.

The 20 year old won 2/2 of his take-ons, and won 7/7 of the tackles he made.

He recovered the ball some 15 times.

His problem was that he undid all of his good work by endlessly losing the ball. 

Jan Vertonghen and Serge Aurier were also dreadful in this respect.

Much blame however must fall upon our midfield who were pressed into oblivion.

Eric Dier and Moussa Sissoko do not cope well under pressure and the inevitable happened, which is to say they were seriously marginalised and the back four bore the brunt of it.

Ben Davies haters might wish to look away again – because he had a comparatively good game.

Passing accuracy up where it ought to be at 85.2% and he only fluffed his lines in the attacking third – which contrasts uncomfortably with young Foyth.

Toby shouldn’t have been dropped – anyone wanting debate that better bring a flask and some sandwiches because you’ll be a here a long time making a fool of yourself. The argument, ‘oh but had we had a midfield he’d have been better’ is no good. If my aunt had wheels, she’d be a bicycle.

Poch got a lot wrong yesterday and this Foyth business was probably the tip of the iceberg.

  • Aside from cerebrospinal fluid, what's on your mind?

  • Daveyboi December 4, 2018 at 7:16 am

    I can’t help thinking that with the Toby/Jan partnership at the latter stages of both careers we’re at the cusp of what happened at UTD when Ferdinand/Vidic went.
    They had ‘promising’ Smalling/Jones and we have ‘promising’ Sanchez/Foyth.

    They’re just not as good period!

  • MiT December 4, 2018 at 4:37 am

    Horrid loss. Spurs were completely unprepared in tactic and in personnel for what Arsenal brought to the match. It looked like they had the attitude that “It’s only Arsenal.” Spurs haven’t earned any right to be arrogant or dismissive of other squads, and Arsenal showed up like they took exception to that notion.

    Arsenal’s players and staff celebrated all over the pitch after that match like they just won a title. This rivalry still means a great deal to them. It looked for a bit like Spurs might work through it, but there was no room for mistakes in a derby rivalry match.

    Toby’s benching is a mystery. Did Pochettino simply rotate, or was he sending some sort of message pertaining to Toby’s future ? Makes no difference. It was not the right setting in which to send a message, and it was not the right time to rotate out an experienced and healthy DB.

    Lloris wore the band and led the squad by consistently playing out panicked and unnecessary clearances. What sort of message does that send as a keeper, let alone a captain ? Aurier was yelling at his teammates while giving the ball away just as much. Vertonghen had a mare of a match. Credit to Arsenal for throwing an energy and gameplan at Spurs for which Spurs were completely unprepared.

    I can only imagine that Arsenal fans were exponentially more obnoxious at their workplaces the next day than the players were on the pitch post match. I feel for any of you that had to endure a ration of crap.

    Spurs need to watch that postmatch celebration again. and again. and again. Let it soak in. Act dismissive of these squads, and they are going to bring some wood to the match. Taking a rivalry match with any less than a best squad and best effort will result in days just like Sunday.

  • Paddio December 3, 2018 at 11:58 pm

    Player fitness and ability to play 3 games a week seems to be a seemingly a more common issue.
    We drop some big players a random times and blame December schedule (under poch we done quite well in this period).
    Something seems amiss in hotspur way esp the fitness side

    • Finn December 4, 2018 at 1:56 am

      That’s oh so true…..

      1. Fitness and ability to play 3 games a week does not appear to be an issue for Kane or Sissoko and others who have aggregated more than 2 games.

      2. The dropping of big players during a tight schedule is understandable, but this was a week of 3 huge games we won 2 but could have won 3. So much of winning and losing is about what’s in the head – the heart manages then that. Winning 3 would have no only fortified our capability to ourselves (which, clearly we need evidenced on the way we fell apart), but also further defined the to opposition players when facing us: instead we re-inforced, “….it’s only Tottenham”.

      3. I too wonder where the much lauded fitness program has gone; two seasons ago we ran everyone off the park. Has every other club initiated its own and caught us up? I don’t see us running sides off the park and I don’t see us bullying the middle of the field. I see a lot of payers on the treatment table, I see players clearly not at their physical best and perhaps psychologically fatigued.

      I can’t help but agree that maybe all is not well behind the fog of THFCs transparency

  • East Stand December 3, 2018 at 11:47 pm

    Klopp hogging the limelight yet again has now led to being disciplined by the F.A. I’m not conned by his affable German guy routine, he’s a self promoter and an attention seeker. I find him increasingly irritating …

    • Paddio December 3, 2018 at 11:58 pm


  • East Stand December 3, 2018 at 11:25 pm

    To me it wasn’t just about Foyth, it was the fact that Verts had been out for about five weeks AND you play an inexperienced kid alongside him. Foyth and Toby might have worked better, Verts and Toby might have worked better. The common denominator here is Toby, he should have played.

    I’m still not having Aurier, he’s got a hell of a lot of improving to do to his game and to his consistency before he’ll be considered the real deal. Far too many un called for extras to his game, he’s whole hearted I’ll give him that but then again so was Vinny Jones…

    • East Stand December 3, 2018 at 11:27 pm

      I’d give KWP a run out in the cup and see how he gets on, he can play on the left too I think. Lets have another look at him.

      • Paddio December 3, 2018 at 11:59 pm

        Might be a different issue as thought he may have had a run out already

  • Finn December 3, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    His follow through was curiously accurate……its hard to believe he didn’t get exactly what he meant to.

  • MrChickenHead December 3, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    What the Flip was Jan thinking, does everyone think he followed through for the red card though, the gooner commentator sure thought so. He got the ball then the man how do you pull out of a tackle like that after you get the ball.

    • East Stand December 3, 2018 at 11:41 pm

      You used to be able to get away with it, take the ball first and the man as well was fair game. I think it’s a hard rule to interpret, it looks straightforward on a slo-mo but at the pace these blokes play at in real time it’s impossible to judge it. I thought it was harsh.

  • MrChickenHead December 3, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    Wow nice to see Rat boy get the Ballon.

  • YidinExile December 3, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    Got beaten by a better team yesterday, end of

    Shouldn’t be that hard to realize

  • Accy December 3, 2018 at 8:01 pm

    I’m feeling a little peed off, right now.

    If tottenham aren’t going to bother – transfers, NLDs, team selections… then why should we?

    A drink, I think.

    • Tappaspur December 3, 2018 at 8:06 pm

      Because we cant turn the love off. Even if there was a switch we wouldn’t use it. Its deep man.

  • Tappaspur December 3, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    Nice easy FA cup game.:-)

    • Tappaspur December 3, 2018 at 7:55 pm

      Lorentte be like “yey ill get a game!

      • Tappaspur December 3, 2018 at 7:57 pm

        Kane probably come on in the last 10 to rescue it! 🙂 🙂

        • Accy December 3, 2018 at 7:59 pm


  • Limerick AL. December 3, 2018 at 6:59 pm

    Its pointless taking this seriously, when Levy The Liar acts as though he could’nt care less .

  • Harry Hotspur December 3, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    Apologies for the lack of bloggage, that game actually hit – even me – somewhat sideways.

    Nice afternoon in the pub though. And I’m Glad the landlord likes the Christmas wreath I made them.

    • Tappaspur December 3, 2018 at 7:50 pm

      Is that bud?! 🙂

  • Mikespurs December 3, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    Well……if you cant laugh at yourself once in awhile what’s the point of it all. But giving this weekend disastrous result I’ll admit this still stings alittle

  • Macca December 3, 2018 at 5:03 pm

    Yet again Potch makes a baffling decision over team selection and oh so bloody slow to change things… afraid we won’t ever win a trophy with him, grateful for what he has done, but we need a winner at the helm

  • Is Gascoigne gonna have a crack? December 3, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    We went to Arsenal to lose same as Chelsea came to us to lose. Chelsea were abyssmal. If anyone can watch the goalie on Kanes pea roller and David Luiz’ willow the wisp non challenge on Son on his way to goal and not bat an eye then all the best. Same yesterday, pathetic display, ridiciculous team selection leaving Toby out and the red card?? Well…..
    The Americans have taken over, football is engineered WWE mark 2 bollox. I’m done with being emotionally and financially robbed by insincere fabricated nonsense. I put 500 quid on Tyson to win at the weekend, I called it 100%…..said he would get knocked down but would never get knocked out and would give Wilder a boxing lesson…. and more corrupt bollox ensued. I’m out of it. How much disbelief can one suspend? After the WC, The nation League its going downhill at snowball speed. Write this off as ramblings to continue in the game if you will…if its genuine, we are 5th and we are staying there, with a generation of success denied by property developing parasites. Sophie’s choice.

    • East Stand December 3, 2018 at 11:36 pm

      I’m coming around to the idea that all this press press stuff needs a squad to be able to do it week in week out. The only club that have that at the moment is Man City, which is why they’ll win the league.

      We were fresh and did it against Chavs and they couldn’t handle it, Woolwich did it to us and they were also fresh (they played all kids in the Ropey). You have to be 100% energised to play it and play against it and we were sluggish and looked off the pace. Poch thought we could manage the game and grow into it but like we did against Chavs we weren’t allowed to.

      I still believe we are a better side than Woolwich but if a decent side press like that and the opposition aren’t 100% on the day the it generally works. Either that or you need a calm and resolute defence to soak it, take the sting out of it and go from there. We had neither yesterday, which is why we lost.

  • Daveyboi December 3, 2018 at 3:43 pm

    Why is it so hard for Poch to not see what’s unfolding when things rnt going to plan?
    Away to a top 4(6) rival why not set up to absorb and counter, play a tactical game?
    Make the natives restless then step it up when legs are tiring?
    Or when looking how things were panning out yesterday take both of the ineffective Eriksen & Alli off and play 433 with Lucas & Son providing pace and support to Kane and winks in the middle with Dier and Sissoko to stop us getting over run and maybe keep some meaningful possession?
    Stop expecting the full backs to get up the line and tuck in IE hold on to what you’ve got.
    The leaving out of Alderwerild is beyond laughable but to stand there watching it all crumble was pathetic.
    Still doing the same s h i t day in day out, good when it works but when it doesn’t it’s slow predictable and error prone.
    Between Emery & Pochettino there was stark contrasts on how to manage an important game, the Arsenal players were running and pressing like it was the NLD, their passing was positive and being at home they looked to attack at every opportunity.
    Our guys lead by Poch the statue could barely put 2 passes together, didn’t get stuck in, looked void of any game plan to unsettle or even take it to Arsenal.
    Pochettino was like a Spurs ghost of Wenger on that touchline while Emery was like a Simeone….
    This isn’t the 1st time it’s happened in a big game and won’t be the last, it could be forgiven if you’ve acted/reacted and come up short still, but to just watch it fall apart with nothing in your tactical armoury to sort it out or plug holes/nulify is simply not good enough at this level.
    This is the problem when people are lauded for abject failure, 2 seasons where no one turned up and Poch lead us to best of the rest is his legacy thus far , now the big clubs have regrouped were back in 5th – look how far we’ve come brigade has gone full circle

    The ENIC circle

    • Tappaspur December 3, 2018 at 3:50 pm

      We wont lose another game this year. Bad day out in the field that was. We’ll be back starting on Wednesday. C’MON THFT pick it back up.

      • Only Me December 3, 2018 at 3:56 pm

        you mean against Barca we wont lose? I honestly cant see us doing anything there at all. I would be gob smacked to see anything other than a loss. Plus Arsenal again in the EFL, and Everton are starting to look better.

        • Tappaspur December 3, 2018 at 4:04 pm

          I know how we can play. I aint gonna stop fancying us against any team coz we lost the NDL. We’re we’re looking good before that game. The team knows its dangerous. Other teams know that too

          • Only me December 3, 2018 at 4:23 pm

            We looked good in a couple of games at most.

            • Tappaspur December 3, 2018 at 4:52 pm

              We’re doing good. Considering. Take it out on the w a n k e r s

      • Daveyboi December 3, 2018 at 4:01 pm

        Until there’s an important game later on you mean …

        IF there is a semi final perhaps or something equally as important Vs a manager with tactics and decent players?
        Poch has plenty of form for being out thought when it really counts.

      • East Stand December 3, 2018 at 11:45 pm

        I tend to agree Tappa, it was awake up call to the players to not rest on their laurels.

        A similar thing happened when we beat Utd away, we went all guano straight after. A pattern is emerging, we need to toughen up to be true winners.

  • airhead December 3, 2018 at 3:27 pm

    The benching of Toby Alderweireld was surely Poch’s way of managing the Belgian’s expectations for the summer. ** How can you be sure of that?

    Pochettino who is ordinarily so measured with youth players suddenly decide that Foyth was the superior player for this North London Derby. ** how do we know Poch decided that and not simply rotated because Toby had played more recent games that all other CBs over the past two month?

    I don’t think it was the best decision for this game but I doubt you can claim what you do with those two statements with any certainty

    • Harry Hotspur December 3, 2018 at 3:49 pm

      Toby wasn’t injured
      It was a north London Derby

      Daft game to make ‘decisions’

      • Daveyboi December 3, 2018 at 3:52 pm

        Funny that Kane doesn’t seem to be rotated for big games…..

        • Aussie in Switzerland December 3, 2018 at 5:10 pm

          Rotate with who? A bicycle pump?

        • Harry Hotspur December 3, 2018 at 6:12 pm


    • Only Me December 3, 2018 at 3:51 pm

      if Toby was “rotated” to accommodate fatigue surely Southampton was the better option than an NLD? There is no excuse. I agree we cant know the reasons, only Poch does, but its clear to see that the NLD is not a game to rotate your best 11 – injury or suspension is only excuse to not play your best players.

  • BARD December 3, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    The entire defensive unit wasn’t good enough yesterday. Loris is consistently poor. Never captain material. drop him. Aurier just isnt good enough. A bad buy and no amount of coaching will improve his defending enough to cope with a half decent atrack. Foyth- a big game too early especially played alongside Verts who wasnt fully up to speed after a long lay off. Davies did ok at best. Then theres Dier. Eric Dier is at best championship standard. No pace. Poor passing. Slow to turn. Doesn’t read the game well. Dier and Sissoko in the engine room just isn’t going to cut it. Toby for Foyth and Winks for Dier. I don’t care how jaded either player was, this was the NLD FFS. Poch is tactically a dunce.

  • Tappaspur December 3, 2018 at 2:54 pm

    Bit of a snarler in the tackle aint he! (I like that) if you kick him he’ll kick you back harder. He looks so innocent. Naughty player in there.

  • Elevenstonedidiots December 3, 2018 at 2:49 pm

    Yesterday it looked like Emerys philosophy had finally come to fruition, a bit like when we beat Chelsea 5-3 a few years ago it was the first time you could see Poch’s philosophy come to the fore. I’d have loved to see Winks to go toe to toe with Torreira. Jan had an afternoon of brain-farts which probably didn’t help Foyth and it’s not like Aurier is a sea of calm either when the chips are down. Dropping Toby for what is probably our 2nd biggest game of the season was nuts. End of.

    Fair play to Arsenal, they beat us at our own game and won the day. Unlike our lad, Emery has list of trophies he can point to and once he gets a few windows under his belt the Goons will be dangerous again. Spurs will need to keep apace. Over to you Daniel.

    For now let Claude and his merry bunch of Goons lose the run of themselves until Utd bring them back down to earth on Wednesday.

  • PlayitagainSamways December 3, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    Dissapointing but not unforgivable.

    The new found fight in our team could also be seen as ill discipline?

    Such a shame that a tool like Ramsey got to have the last word over Dier. I would like to see Diers tunnel cam!